quid pro quo, then bribery/extortion, now attempted crimes

[jimnyc]

They are seeing that their crap isn't going to stick. :rolleyes:

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Democrats Scramble, Switch Impeachment Narrative to ‘Attempted’ Crimes After Lackluster Hearing

Democrats have been scrambling following Wednesday’s lackluster public impeachment hearing, changing the focus of their impeachment narrative to “attempted” crimes after Republican lawmakers largely decimated their weak impeachment case.

Wednesday’s public impeachment hearing, which featured testimonies from acting U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Bill Taylor and senior State Department official George Kent, was deemed a bust by many, including Democrats.

“It was a total disaster for us,” one senior House Democrat aide told Breitbart News.

“It’s hearsay,” Rep. Jeff Van Drew (D-NJ) said of Taylor’s testimony. “It’s really difficult dealing with this because it’s he said-she said.”

Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/14/sad-democrats-scramble-switch-impeachment-narrative-attempted-crimes-after-lackluster-hearing/

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

It is political strategy-- lousy Dems hoping that it weakens Trump's reelection campaign.
And hoping that it weakens all Republicans seeking another term in their elected positions as well as stir the dem voters come come out in larger numbers to vote.
Media gives them this power to run such a dastardly , fraudulent and massive lying scam for political gain , while attempting to weaken our CONSTITUTION and this nation as a whole--
these filthy scum = leftists/libs/ most socialistic dems and their firm allies are basically all traitors , IMHO.--Tyr

[Gunny]

They are seeing that their crap isn't going to stick. :rolleyes:

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Democrats Scramble, Switch Impeachment Narrative to ‘Attempted’ Crimes After Lackluster Hearing

Democrats have been scrambling following Wednesday’s lackluster public impeachment hearing, changing the focus of their impeachment narrative to “attempted” crimes after Republican lawmakers largely decimated their weak impeachment case.

Wednesday’s public impeachment hearing, which featured testimonies from acting U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Bill Taylor and senior State Department official George Kent, was deemed a bust by many, including Democrats.

“It was a total disaster for us,” one senior House Democrat aide told Breitbart News.

“It’s hearsay,” Rep. Jeff Van Drew (D-NJ) said of Taylor’s testimony. “It’s really difficult dealing with this because it’s he said-she said.”

Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/14/sad-democrats-scramble-switch-impeachment-narrative-attempted-crimes-after-lackluster-hearing/Well, that didn't work. Let's try THIS ... :rolleyes:

Giving the words more impact and adding the insinuation of imminent criminality. Who'd have ever thought of that :rolleyes:

I think they're too stupid to just throw in a bad hand. That's got to be the case. And WHO is their legal counsel? That person(s) needs to be fired. They lost witch hunt 1 and "rebounded" with ... another idea? No. Repeat what didn't work last time. The dictionary definition of those who refuse to learn from history. Well, that would mean admitting they failed and trying to find out why and fix it.

[pete311]

Republicans move the goal posts for their defense as new revelations come to light.

[STTAB]

Republicans move the goal posts for their defense as new revelations come to light.


The only revelation we have seen here is bureaucrats admitting that they believe it they and not the President who set foreign policy.

Dishonest Pete posts again.

[jimnyc]

Republicans move the goal posts for their defense as new revelations come to light.

I believe I've seen them simply defend the endless onslaught of accusations - and it's those accusations that are endlessly changing. And if they are changing it like their underwear, then it stands to reason that the republicans defense will change along with it.

Lemme ask you this Pete - why do you think they changed the "charges" no less than 3x, and didn't offer bribery until this past week? Why do you think they are switching to "attempted" crimes? And why didn't they stay with the quid pro quo stance they started and stayed with for so long?

[Gunny]

I believe I've seen them simply defend the endless onslaught of accusations - and it's those accusations that are endlessly changing. And if they are changing it like their underwear, then it stands to reason that the republicans defense will change along with it.

Lemme ask you this Pete - why do you think they changed the "charges" no less than 3x, and didn't offer bribery until this past week? Why do you think they are switching to "attempted" crimes? And why didn't they stay with the quid pro quo stance they started and stayed with for so long?Because they are turning quid pro quo into a crime just to go after Trump. Never mind every other President has done the same. This is Trump, after all :rolleyes:

I wonder why they don't consider the future ramifications as they will apply to THEM once they are back in power. And THAT is ALWAYS the Dems. Remember Reid and his "nukyular option"? Bit them in the ass.

Normally, I'd say they are setting future restrictions on themselves, but then, when did they ever follow any rules? Especially their own.

Can't fix stupid.

[STTAB]

Because they are turning quid pro quo into a crime just to go after Trump. Never mind every other President has done the same. This is Trump, after all :rolleyes:

I wonder why they don't consider the future ramifications as they will apply to THEM once they are back in power. And THAT is ALWAYS the Dems. Remember Reid and his "nukyular option"? Bit them in the ass.

Normally, I'd say they are setting future restrictions on themselves, but then, when did they ever follow any rules? Especially their own.

Can't fix stupid.


It just boils down to they know they have no one who can beat Trump in 2020 unless they use every dirty trick available to them.

[del]

Because they are turning quid pro quo into a crime just to go after Trump. Never mind every other President has done the same. This is Trump, after all :rolleyes:

I wonder why they don't consider the future ramifications as they will apply to THEM once they are back in power. And THAT is ALWAYS the Dems. Remember Reid and his "nukyular option"? Bit them in the ass.

Normally, I'd say they are setting future restrictions on themselves, but then, when did they ever follow any rules? Especially their own.

Can't fix stupid.

I don't remember any other president conditioning aid on getting dirt on his political rivals.

Perhaps you can refresh my memory.

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I don't remember any other president conditioning aid on getting dirt on his political rivals.

Perhaps you can refresh my memory.


First of all , you can't even show any proof that Trump conditioned the aid on ANYTHING.

Second of all, requesting investigations into corruption =/= getting dirt on political opposition

Third of all, I'll say the same thing to you that I said to Petey on this matter. If you TRULY believed what you are saying you would absolutely be insisting that the 4 Democratic Senators who wrote a letter to the President of Ukraine where they absolutely threatened to vote no on foreign aid if the Ukrainian government didn't cooperate with the US Justice Department on 4 different investigations involving the Trump campaign be removed from office and jailed for violating the law. But you don't Del, because you don't REALLY believe what you are saying. All you believe is "orange man bad" so any means necessary to remove him.

[jimnyc]

I don't remember any other president conditioning aid on getting dirt on his political rivals.

Perhaps you can refresh my memory.

Did he actually ask for dirt?

Or did he look to have them investigated? Perhaps for the known corruption, of which more and more is coming out. I don't see how asking to have someone investigated, someone who admitted to wrongdoing on the record, is equal to digging up dirt. :rolleyes:

[Kathianne]

Schiff has added witness tampering for his tweets today.

[jimnyc]

Schiff has added witness tampering for his tweets today.

They are just going to toss in every accusation possible as things get heated. I mean, if Schiff is willing to go on national TV and literally make up the text of the discussion, confusing Americans, then what else would be capable of lying about? I have posted an awful lot about Schiff and his actions throughout the Russia BS and now this. I don't trust him. I don't trust Brennan. I don't trust Clapper. I don't trust Comey. I don't trust Hillary.

There are certain folks, mostly lead by their actions, and much by their words, that scare me, and make me lose faith and trust in such a person. I don't like politics, believe it or not. I don't like the way they "play the game", as to me it's no game, but they think it is. I don't like the way that 99% of them are above the law. I don't like the protection games they play. And now I grew wary of our intel for a great part, after seeing what they were involved in in the past 3-4 years. As I said before, I was naive and always saw them as 100% impartial. What a naive dummy I was.

And yes, there are a handful on the right I don't care for much either. And I think they are just as guilty in playing the games. And do their share of above the law BS. I won't get into minute details that I think does though separate them from the left.

But we're talking impeachment here. If they find out that Pelosi or Schiff purposely lied about something, they should be on the line just as much, IMO. Schiff, and his claims about the WB for example, and not knowing him knowing his name and never having met with him. I simply do not believe him. And prior posts of mine have shown why that is a lie. And if proven, I think he should be held accountable. But they will make up ANY accusation that may help them win this OR may help them towards/with 2020. And without consequence, as who will go after the "prosecutor" for making allegations and failing. They are usually immune from such prosecution, but I don't know how that works in congress.

A lot of this stuff is scary. A couple of things here or there, and they very well may get to remove a sitting president. And then a move here or there, and he walks most likely, and the left is stuck holding stupidity in their hands once again. But it's all a bet on our future. It's OUR future they are betting on here.

[STTAB]

Schiff has added witness tampering for his tweets today.

That Democrats don't demand that this clown be removed proves that they don't REALLY care about politicians lying and being otherwise dishonest.