Corbyn critical of Al-Baghdadi's death

[Drummond]

The UK is in an election period. So, you'd expect politicians from all Parties to say & do whatever it took to gain votes for their respective Parties.

Where Corbyn is concerned, though, he has a long history for sympathy of 'dodgy' causes, people and organisations. He's not been above showing support for the likes of the IRA and Hamas, and his Party is embroiled in a scandal where many instances of anti-Semitic prejudice have come from Party members.

When Al-Baghdadi was killed, Corbyn stayed silent about it. No congratulations for taking him out, came from Corbyn. Now, we learn that Corbyn has spoken out against his death.

https://order-order.com/2019/10/28/pm-corbyn-refuse-authorise-killing-al-baghdadi/


The biggest international news of the weekend was undoubtedly the killing of ISIS leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, however the Labour Party seemed surprising quiet over the news, without a single press release or Tweet from Jeremy Corbyn or Shadow Foreign Secretary Emily Thornberry. Labour strangely silent on this…

The reason for the radio silence may be Jeremy Corbyn”s ambiguity on whether he would authorise a strike on the ISIS leader if he became PM.

Interviewing Corbyn in 2017, Andrew Marr [BBC Political / Current Affairs interviewer] posited:

“the gentlemen in suits walk in and say ‘Prime Minister Corbyn, we’ve got good news for you: al-Baghdadi the leader of ISIS, we know where he is, we can take him out with a drone strike – can we have your permission?’ What do you tell them?”.

Corbyn then spent a minute skirting round the answer, refusing to say he would.

Today, Corbyn was heckled about being 'a terrorist sympathiser'.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7680707/Jeremy-Corbyn-heckled-labelled-terrorist-sympathiser-visit-Glasgow.html


Jeremy Corbyn today insisted that mass-murdering ISIS chief Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi should have been arrested - despite the fact that the terrorist leader blew himself and two of his children up as US soldiers approached.

The anti-war Labour leader questioned the US operation last month that led to the death of the cornered Islamist warlord, whose victims included innocent Britons.

'If we want to live in a world of peace and justice we should practice it as well', Mr Corbyn said in an interview with LBC on the election campaign trail.

The comments came hours after Mr Corbyn's two-day general election tour of Scotland got off to a disastrous start as he was heckled and labelled a 'terrorist sympathiser' when he arrived at an event in Glasgow.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7680707/Jeremy-Corbyn-heckled-labelled-terrorist-sympathiser-visit-Glasgow.html


Asked about al-Baghdadi's death by LBC, Mr Corbyn said that 'him being removed from the scene is a very good thing.'.

But he added: 'If it would have been possible to arrest him, I don't know the details of the circumstances at the time.

'I have only seen various statements put out by the US about it, surely that would have been the right thing to do.'

Tory Security Minister Brandon Lewis said: 'Corbyn's comments are yet more proof of his flawed judgement and inability to stand up to people who reject our values.

Every time he is given the opportunity to take the side of this country's enemies he does so.

In one month, Britain could wake up to find him standing on the steps of Downing Street as our Prime Minister.'

Tory election candidate Michael Fabricant added: 'So easy. ''Well, Mr al-Baghdadi, we understand you are the military leader of ISIS. Please accompany me to the nearest police station.'' What planet is Jeremy Corbyn on?'

Responding to Mr Corbyn's suggestion al-Baghdadi should have been detained, Conservative candidate Andrew Bridgen told MailOnline: 'Doing that may have put the lives of the soldiers in danger.

'He is responsible for some of the most heinous crimes committed by Islamic State, many of which against UK citizens.

'This is reinforcing what we already know about Mr Corbyn. He has an inexplicable friendly attitude to terrorists and a history of it.'

Mr Corbyn defended his remarks about Bin Laden, adding: 'If we preach international law and international legal process through the International Court of Justice in The Hague then we should carry it out.

[NightTrain]

This Corbyn sounds like some of the dirtbag politicians we have here.

Hoping he's removed from your government in the next election. People like that poison others until it becomes epidemic.

[Drummond]

This Corbyn sounds like some of the dirtbag politicians we have here.

Hoping he's removed from your government in the next election. People like that poison others until it becomes epidemic.

For my money, they don't get any dirtier than Corbyn !

This joker has said in the past that he would never use the UK's nuclear deterrent, under ANY circumstances at all ... which removes its deterrent factor ! An enemy can be expected to thank him for that.

Hamas ... and the IRA. He's shared public platforms with spokespersons from both. When we had that Salisbury poisoning outrage, Corbyn refused to accept Putin's responsibility for it, despite the evidence pointing to Russian manufacture of the agent, and even the identifications of each of the Russians responsible.

Mercifully ... he isn't in our Government. He's the Leader of the Opposition. The problem is that, one month from now, he may have managed to become elected as the leader of one.

[Kathianne]

I read today that Johnson is up 10pts. I guess that doesn't help with his forming a new government, but it looks like a Brexit, either Johnson's or hard?

[Drummond]

I read today that Johnson is up 10pts. I guess that doesn't help with his forming a new government, but it looks like a Brexit, either Johnson's or hard?

Well, he WAS up 17 points. Has he gained ten, or lost seven ?

Both candidates had rough campaigning days today. Boris visited the scenes of recent and current flooding in the north of England (rivers burst their banks after torrential downpours) .. and residents, some made homeless, made their dissatisfaction with the Government's lack of swift aid VERY clear to him.

As for Corbyn, a local pastor tried tackling him on his terrorist sympathies. Corbyn didn't answer him; didn't even acknowledge him. He just walked on.

Brexit is still far from determined. If Corbyn wins, the whole thing (IF they mean what they say) will go to a second Referendum vote ... with Labour campaigning for us to Remain in the EU.

This, from Donald Tusk, today:

https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/donald-tusk-dont-give-up-on-stopping-brexit/ar-BBWI82X


Outgoing European Council President Donald Tusk has urged British voters not to "give up" on stopping Brexit.

As campaigning ramps up ahead of next month's general election, he warned that leaving the EU would leave the UK a "second-rate player".

In a speech, he also said Brexit would likely mark the "real end of the British Empire".

He is due to step down from his role next month, having held the post for five years.

Mr Tusk's intervention comes as Conservative leader Boris Johnson said the UK Parliament was "paralysed" and had refused "time and again to honour the mandate of the people and to deliver Brexit".

[Gunny]

Well, he WAS up 17 points. Has he gained ten, or lost seven ?

Both candidates had rough campaigning days today. Boris visited the scenes of recent and current flooding in the north of England (rivers burst their banks after torrential downpours) .. and residents, some made homeless, made their dissatisfaction with the Government's lack of swift aid VERY clear to him.

As for Corbyn, a local pastor tried tackling him on his terrorist sympathies. Corbyn didn't answer him; didn't even acknowledge him. He just walked on.

Brexit is still far from determined. If Corbyn wins, the whole thing (IF they mean what they say) will go to a second Referendum vote ... with Labour campaigning for us to Remain in the EU.

This, from Donald Tusk, today:

https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/donald-tusk-dont-give-up-on-stopping-brexit/ar-BBWI82XThis sounds SO much like the failed "Russian Collusion" investigation. Failed? Now we'll have a Ukranian Coercion investigation. If that doesn't produce the results the left wants ....

So how many elections for PM is the UK going to have? Until the left wins one?

[Drummond]

This sounds SO much like the failed "Russian Collusion" investigation. Failed? Now we'll have a Ukranian Coercion investigation. If that doesn't produce the results the left wants ....

So how many elections for PM is the UK going to have? Until the left wins one?

Yes, we've had more than is 'usual'. There was even a Bill passed, called 'Fixed Term Parliaments Act', designed to stop PM's calling General Elections whenever they felt like it (it became commonplace for Prime Ministers to wait until they could say social conditions were particularly good, then to call elections in the hope of riding on perceived successes).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fixed-term_Parliaments_Act_2011


Elections were previously required to be held at least once every five years. An election would usually take place before the end of the five-year term, and even early in the term, at any time when the prime minister so advised the monarch; this was seen as unfairly advantaging an incumbent prime minister. An election could also take place at any time following a vote of no confidence in the government; the motion required an ordinary simple majority of those voting and, according to constitutional convention, the government would then have to resign.

Under the FTPA, the next general election is automatically scheduled for the first Thursday in May of the fifth year after the previous general election—or the fourth year if the date of the previous election was before the first Thursday in May. However, the FTPA provides two ways to hold an early election. One is that the Act provides a statutory basis for an early election following a Commons vote of no confidence in the government, which still requires only a simple majority of those voting. The other is a vote for an early election, which requires a qualified majority—two thirds of the total membership of the Commons.

Thanks to Parliament's dysfunctional paralysis over these past months, Boris found it more difficult than it would have been in the past to break the deadlock, as Corbyn held the power to block elections .. which he recently did. But, now we're into an election period, Boris is hoping to gain an overall majority in the Commons that'd enable him to finally get Brexit done.

He has the LibDems against him, who want Brexit stopped. Corbyn's Labour Party is fractured, but their official position is that they'd put Brexit to a second vote. If the vote still came back as pro-Brexit, Labour say they'll renegotiate another deal ... one everyone else thinks will be too soft to ensure a proper break with the EU.

[Gunny]

Yes, we've had more than is 'usual'. There was even a Bill passed, called 'Fixed Term Parliaments Act', designed to stop PM's calling General Elections whenever they felt like it (it became commonplace for Prime Ministers to wait until they could say social conditions were particularly good, then to call elections in the hope of riding on perceived successes).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fixed-term_Parliaments_Act_2011



Thanks to Parliament's dysfunctional paralysis over these past months, Boris found it more difficult than it would have been in the past to break the deadlock, as Corbyn held the power to block elections .. which he recently did. But, now we're into an election period, Boris is hoping to gain an overall majority in the Commons that'd enable him to finally get Brexit done.

He has the LibDems against him, who want Brexit stopped. Corbyn's Labour Party is fractured, but their official position is that they'd put Brexit to a second vote. If the vote still came back as pro-Brexit, Labour say they'll renegotiate another deal ... one everyone else thinks will be too soft to ensure a proper break with the EU.

Isn't that what's been happening? "Renegotiate another deal." Like I said ... we'll (the left) just keep going 'round until we get the answer we want.

[Drummond]

Isn't that what's been happening? "Renegotiate another deal." Like I said ... we'll (the left) just keep going 'round until we get the answer we want.

Quite.

There's that missing factor not being considered, though ... WILL the EU agree to renegotiate ?

The EU spent several months telling us that the original deal wouldn't be changed. Ultimately, after all those months, they thought again about one aspect of it, and it was obvious that they did that reluctantly. Now, Labour comes along, and is supremely confident that they'll renegotiate yet again, and the EU will say 'yes' to it.

It's possible that they're correct, because Labour would dream up a 'deal' far more weighted to the EU's liking; essentially a 'surrender' document. Agreeing to the free movement of citizens across our borders, for example, which if agreed in a new deal, would defeat part of the point of Brexit ! Also, Labour are talking about keeping a customs union in place ... again, this keeping us tied to Europe. Right now, we have one, but it's one where we can vote in the EU Parliament to help govern any changes to its terms .. under Labour, we'd have that union, but NO input.

Labour would surrender to the EU .. either by getting a deal weighted in the EU's favour, or, contriving to get a Referendum vote that destroyed Brexit entirely (and making the original vote meaningless).

This is all part of a recurring pattern, where Corbyn's concerned: he'll put foreign powers' interests above those of his OWN nation; be it 'legitimate' powers, such as Nation States, or even those of terrorists.

Still: he IS a Leftie, so perhaps I can't expect anything better of him than that.

[Drummond]

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[STTAB]

Isn't that what's been happening? "Renegotiate another deal." Like I said ... we'll (the left) just keep going 'round until we get the answer we want.


That's the liberal way. "Oh this bullshit didn't work? Let's make up some other bullshit"

[Drummond]

That's the liberal way. "Oh this bullshit didn't work? Let's make up some other bullshit"

:clap::clap::clap::clap:

Very, very, true !

[Kathianne]

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/349619/


NOVEMBER 26, 2019
JEREMY CORBYN DESTROYS HIMSELF (https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/jeremy-corbyn-destroys-himself/): “You ever wondered how it was that Romans actually enjoyed watching people torn to shreds by wild animals in the Colosseum? Watch BBC interviewer Andrew Neil’s merciless inquisition of Jeremy Corbyn, which aired this evening in the UK…let’s just say that it is hard to fathom the British people entrusting their nation to a man like this. Watch the last five minutes of the thing, in which Corbyn can’t bring himself to say he would give the kill order to British special forces if they cornered the head of ISIS as he was about to order a terrorist attack.”


Posted by Ed Driscoll at 11:15 pm

[High_Plains_Drifter]

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/349619/
I don't see anything to "watch," Kath, let alone the last 5 minutes of it, but what an incredible story. Corbyn couldn't bring himself to give the order to take out probably the most hated terrorist leader on the planet... just baffling.

Is he afraid if he says something bad about muslims that all the muslims in the UK will put a fatwah on his head or something? That would be very gutless. If you're going to be in a public position, you better have the balls to make your opinions known.

[Drummond]

I don't see anything to "watch," Kath, let alone the last 5 minutes of it, but what an incredible story. Corbyn couldn't bring himself to give the order to take out probably the most hated terrorist leader on the planet... just baffling.

Is he afraid if he says something bad about muslims that all the muslims in the UK will put a fatwah on his head or something? That would be very gutless. If you're going to be in a public position, you better have the balls to make your opinions known.

Your second paragraph does a lot to illustrate how different the political, and indeed the 'politically correct', environment is over here, compared to the US.

Corbyn has a history of support for 'dodgy' causes. He's been seen in the past at campaign rallies, where he's shared a platform with IRA terrorists, and Hamas spokesmen. Given that latter truth, it's hardly surprising that he'd object to what happened to that Al Baghdadi scum. In his eyes, I'm sure there wouldn't have been a limit to how many troops' lives should've been sacrificed in the attempt to take him into custody.

Labour has had literally hundreds of cases to deal with in its ranks of its members being anti-Semitic, & they've even had a Jewish Labour MP defect to a rival Party because of what she suffered at their hands. Now, we've had a leading rabbi speak out publicly against support for Labour at the coming election.

Corbyn can't bring himself to apologise for Labour's failure to root anti-Semitism out of the Party, in response.

However ... the Muslim Council of Britain has made comparable charges of 'Islamphobia' against the Conservative Party, very obviously to even up the score so that neither Party can be seen as more meritorious than the other (.. & so to make sure that Labour, their long-time friends and helpful stooges, have damage deflected from them). This they've just now done, within 24 hours of the rabbi's stance becoming public.

The point is, in my society, 'Islamophobia' and 'Anti Semitism' are equal 'evils'. The MCB may well succeed in getting parity of toxicity established between both Parties, to knock out the electoral damage possible against Labour.