Whistleblower Complaint Involves Trump Communication With Foreign Leader

[pete311]

Whistleblower Complaint Involves Trump Communication With Foreign Leader
https://www.wsj.com/articles/whistleblower-complaint-involves-trump-communication-with-foreign-leader-11568898983
(https://www.wsj.com/articles/whistleblower-complaint-involves-trump-communication-with-foreign-leader-11568898983)
I make no comments until more comes out. Seems interesting.

[Elessar]

That is a hell of a lot of speculation, especially since the original
reporting source is not identified.

No details from the report, either. A President has the right to communicate
with anyone as they so please, so this is another 'Tempest in a Teapot"

No offense to you, pete311, but this seems weak at best.

[pete311]

That is a hell of a lot of speculation, especially since the original
reporting source is not identified.

No details from the report, either. A President has the right to communicate
with anyone as they so please, so this is another 'Tempest in a Teapot"

No offense to you, @pete311 (http://www.debatepolicy.com/member.php?u=1821), but this seems weak at best.

Maybe, but if it weren't a big deal then the acting DNI chief shouldn't have held it back from congress. There are two whistleblowers. One for the suspect communication and one for not delivering the complaint to congress per law.

[STTAB]

Maybe, but if it weren't a big deal then the acting DNI chief shouldn't have held it back from congress. There are two whistleblowers. One for the suspect communication and one for not delivering the complaint to congress per law.

Obviously we don't know enough about this to even know why someone felt the need to tattle on Trump, BUT two things here.

1. Given the way Trump haters have behaved since he was elected it is more than likely a bullshit complaint like all the others

and

2. Democrats in Congress have brought this on themselves , in the beginning everyone in the Administration was cooperating with their requests, but 2 1/2 years of crying like bitches and turning everything into a fucking Defcon 5 alert Democrats have simply pissed everyone off can no longer find cooperation.

[pete311]

Obviously we don't know enough about this to even know why someone felt the need to tattle on Trump, BUT two things here.

1. Given the way Trump haters have behaved since he was elected it is more than likely a bullshit complaint like all the others

and

2. Democrats in Congress have brought this on themselves , in the beginning everyone in the Administration was cooperating with their requests, but 2 1/2 years of crying like bitches and turning everything into a fucking Defcon 5 alert Democrats have simply pissed everyone off can no longer find cooperation.

The IG (hired by Trump mind you) has looked at it and labeled it urgent. When that is done by law it has to be sent to congress. The acting DNI chief has refused.

[icansayit]

The IG (hired by Trump mind you) has looked at it and labeled it urgent. When that is done by law it has to be sent to congress. The acting DNI chief has refused.



You forgot that you told us there will be no further comments....YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT. Use it.

[FakeNewsSux]

Let's see what former intelligence officer and noted Trump hater, Phil Mudd, had to say about this kerfuffle:


https://youtu.be/OS_ybCgkg4w

[STTAB]

Let's see what former intelligence officer and noted Trump hater, Phil Mudd, had to say about this kerfuffle:



Closely related to my first post in the thread where I said " I bet this was must more "orange man bad " whining than Trump actually did anything illegal. This guy is a snitch, not a whistle blower.

[pete311]

Closely related to my first post in the thread where I said " I bet this was must more "orange man bad " whining than Trump actually did anything illegal. This guy is a snitch, not a whistle blower.

Did you forget the IG (that Trump nominated) reviewed it an labeled it an urgent concern?

[pete311]

Trump Repeatedly Pressed Ukraine President to Investigate Biden’s Son
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-defends-conversation-with-ukraine-leader-11568993176

[FakeNewsSux]

Trump Repeatedly Pressed Ukraine President to Investigate Biden’s Son
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-defends-conversation-with-ukraine-leader-11568993176

Careful what you wish for Pete, unless, of course, your desire is to torpedo the Democrat's leading candidate for President:


https://youtu.be/q3bQtnY6OIA

[jimnyc]

So I wonder, WHAT was it that Biden did that perhaps should have been investigated? All made up just to harm his candidacy? No truth at all and was never a reason to investigate? DID Hunter Biden have any work in the Ukraine? DID he profit at all while Dad was in office? DID Joe Biden, at all, at ANY time, threaten to pull back aid to Ukraine, if they didn't fire a prosecutor investigating an energy company? One that Hunter Biden was on the board?

But big orange man had no right to talk with other leaders? Investigate of any of this is true? I mean, it's all fake, right?

Someone should have told the leftie news back when Biden was in office, when they all reported about this?

"If the prosecutor isn't fired in 6 hours, you aren't getting the money".

[pete311]

Unbelievable. You can't tell me the shitstorm that would hit Obama if it came out he bribed a foreign power into investigating Romney's son.

[Russ]

This might be the biggest no-information-at-all story I've ever heard of in my life.

All kinds of new organizations are reporting "Whistleblower says Trump communicated with a Foreign Leader" but can't specify any facts, such as:
1. Who is the world leader?
2. Who is the whistleblower and how did they get this information?
3. What exactly is the information anyway? They don't even say what Trump said.
4. What is the problem with Trump communicating with a Foreign Leader? Isn't that part of the job of President?
5. Is whatever Trump said to the leader unusual? Is it something no President has ever said to a Foreign Leader before?

Recently there has been innuendo that the foreign leader is from Ukraine, and the information is about Biden's threatening trip to Ukraine while he was VP, but this is never stated as fact.

By the way, if there is a problem with Trump talking with Ukraine - why wasn't it a problem when Biden talked to them?

[jimnyc]

Unbelievable. You can't tell me the shitstorm that would hit Obama if it came out he bribed a foreign power into investigating Romney's son.

Obama, leaders within the FBI and the DOJ = they all were accused and involved in wrongdoing and now being proved that they used all of the above to wrongly investigate someone, and then pin investigations on people, all part of keeping Trump out of office and then to try and remove him from office. Many people discussed it and showed the wrongdoing. Funny that you missed it then.

Now, we have someone asking another leader to apparently investigate something? Something that Joe Biden himself was recorded stating - that he would withhold aid from Ukraine if they didn't fire a prosecutor? Something doesn't add up - and even the liberal media asked all of those same questions. Odd that too! But someone finally listens - and it's suddenly an issue. Perhaps so - if it were false, and Biden didn't admit to the wrongdoing himself... And THAT is where the bribery was.

Face it, that's why he's got full support on this one, as everyone quickly saw it for the garbage grab that it is. The Desperate Dems just trying the same tactics over and over and over and over thinking they'll get different results. Kind of like you coming here posting endless times with gotcha! stories about Trump, only for them to end up being BS. EVERY SINGLE TIME. :rolleyes: :laugh:

[pete311]

This might be the biggest no-information-at-all story I've ever heard of in my life.

All kinds of new organizations are reporting "Whistleblower says Trump communicated with a Foreign Leader" but can't specify any facts, such as:
1. Who is the world leader?
2. Who is the whistleblower and how did they get this information?
3. What exactly is the information anyway? They don't even say what Trump said.
4. What is the problem with Trump communicating with a Foreign Leader? Isn't that part of the job of President?
5. Is whatever Trump said to the leader unusual? Is it something no President has ever said to a Foreign Leader before?

Recently there has been innuendo that the foreign leader is from Ukraine, and the information is about Biden's threatening trip to Ukraine while he was VP, but this is never stated as fact.

By the way, if there is a problem with Trump talking with Ukraine - why wasn't it a problem when Biden talked to them?

Russ... seriously... the White House are illegally blocking the whistleblower reports so no shit there is lack of information. If this is nothing then why illegally block the report?

[pete311]

Obama, leaders within the FBI and the DOJ = they all were accused and involved in wrongdoing and now being proved that they used all of the above to wrongly investigate someone, and then pin investigations on people, all part of keeping Trump out of office and then to try and remove him from office. Many people discussed it and showed the wrongdoing. Funny that you missed it then.

Now, we have someone asking another leader to apparently investigate something? Something that Joe Biden himself was recorded stating - that he would withhold aid from Ukraine if they didn't fire a prosecutor? Something doesn't add up - and even the liberal media asked all of those same questions. Odd that too! But someone finally listens - and it's suddenly an issue. Perhaps so - if it were false, and Biden didn't admit to the wrongdoing himself... And THAT is where the bribery was.

Face it, that's why he's got full support on this one, as everyone quickly saw it for the garbage grab that it is. The Desperate Dems just trying the same tactics over and over and over and over thinking they'll get different results. Kind of like you coming here posting endless times with gotcha! stories about Trump, only for them to end up being BS. EVERY SINGLE TIME. :rolleyes: :laugh:

Jim this is simple. Trumps IG looked at the report and deemed it concerning and urgent. The White House ate blocking the report. Don’t be like this. This one is simple.

[Kathianne]

Pete keeps repeating about the IG, which I get. What we don't know though is how he came to have the report and what he knew had come before, like the following information.

Then there is Biden on video claiming/bragging that he did just what is alleged.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/intelligence-whistleblower-didnt-have-direct-knowledge-of-the-communications (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/intelligence-whistleblower-didnt-have-direct-knowledge-of-the-communications)



Whistleblower 'didn’t have direct knowledge of the communications' between Trump and Ukraine
by Zachary Halaschak
| September 21, 2019 04:04 PM



The whistleblower who filed a complaint with the intelligence community inspector general did not have direct knowledge of the communications between President Trump and the foreign leader in question.


The conversation was reportedly a July 25 phone call between Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. It is alleged that Trump urged Zelensky multiple times to work with his personal attorney Rudy Giuliani to investigate Joe Biden’s son Hunter Biden and his ties to an energy company owned by a Ukrainian oligarch. Giuliani has previously urged a top official in Ukraine to look into the ties.


An official who has been briefed on the matter, however, told CNN that the whistleblower “didn’t have direct knowledge of the communications.” The official said that the concerns and subsequent complaint came in part from the whistleblower “learning information that was not obtained during the course of their work.”


[ Also read: ANALYSIS: Does Schiff already know the Trump whistleblower's story?]


Those details have reportedly played a role in the administration's determining that the complaint, lodged in August, didn’t fall under the reporting standards for intelligence whistleblower law.


Although many details are still unclear, the communications in question reportedly involved a “promise,” and House Democrats, as well as the elder Biden, are pushing to have the complaint and a transcript of the call between Trump and Zelensky released.


Inspector General of the Intelligence Community Michael Atkinson received the initial complaint and forwarded it to acting Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire, who has so far refused to pass it along to Congress.


The root of the proposed investigation into Hunter Biden stems from his being a 2014 board member for the natural gas firm Burisma Holdings. While he was still vice president, Joe Biden threatened to withhold $1 billion in U.S. loan guarantees if Ukraine did not fire its top prosecutor, who was accused of corruption and was investigating the oligarch who owned Burisma Holdings. That raised concerns of a potential conflict of interest, which could be damaging to Biden’s presidential campaign.


At the time of the prosecutor’s departure, Hunter Biden was being paid $50,000 per month for his work with the energy company. Hunter Biden left Burisma’s board earlier this year.


Both Trump and Biden have denied any wrongdoing, with Trump describing his phone call to Zelensky as “perfectly fine" and Biden saying he has never spoken to his son about his overseas business dealings.

[pete311]

Pete keeps repeating about the IG, which I get. What we don't know though is how he came to have the report and what he knew had come before, like the following information.

Then there is Biden on video claiming/bragging that he did just what is alleged.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/intelligence-whistleblower-didnt-have-direct-knowledge-of-the-communications (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/intelligence-whistleblower-didnt-have-direct-knowledge-of-the-communications)
The protocol is for the IG to review the complaint and if credible pass it to congress. He did but the WH is blocking it.

[NightTrain]

Haha!

Yes, Pete! This is the one! THIS is finally the magic bullet that's going to impeach Trump!

I suggest that you and your buddies invest in a ton of fireworks for the moonbat celebration. You know, just like Hillary did for her 2016 celebration.

[icansayit]

The protocol is for the IG to review the complaint and if credible pass it to congress. He did but the WH is blocking it.


Who died, and made you the authority on this phony stuff? In order for there to be a CREDIBLE complaint...there must FIRST be something CREDIBLE to pass to Congress.

The WH can't pass something that DOES NOT EXIST. Namely...the supposed, leaked, spy information of overhearing the President....DID NOT TAKE PLACE. You should verify that before you sound like PMSNBC, and the rest of the FAKE NEWS buggers who love making stuff sound so serious...."WE GOT THE SILVER BULLET NOW" BULL-CRAP.

[pete311]

Who died, and made you the authority on this phony stuff? In order for there to be a CREDIBLE complaint...there must FIRST be something CREDIBLE to pass to Congress.

The WH can't pass something that DOES NOT EXIST. Namely...the supposed, leaked, spy information of overhearing the President....DID NOT TAKE PLACE. You should verify that before you sound like PMSNBC, and the rest of the FAKE NEWS buggers who love making stuff sound so serious...."WE GOT THE SILVER BULLET NOW" BULL-CRAP.

So the IG that testified a few days ago is lying?

[jimnyc]

Pete keeps repeating about the IG, which I get. What we don't know though is how he came to have the report and what he knew had come before, like the following information.

Then there is Biden on video claiming/bragging that he did just what is alleged.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/intelligence-whistleblower-didnt-have-direct-knowledge-of-the-communications (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/intelligence-whistleblower-didnt-have-direct-knowledge-of-the-communications)

Yep, I kinda introduced Biden's own admittance in there, but there is no interest in even noticing it from him, only the gotcha games. If he wee TRULY interested in such things, he too would have been interested in WHY Biden did what he did, bragged about it - DID it help his son? And was it worthy of even getting a yes or no answer. I believe it should, especially since an active VP made the comments.

[jimnyc]

Haha!

Yes, Pete! This is the one! THIS is finally the magic bullet that's going to impeach Trump!

I suggest that you and your buddies invest in a ton of fireworks for the moonbat celebration. You know, just like Hillary did for her 2016 celebration.

Can't wait, got my fireworks ready! Might as well join the fun since we know that THIS is finally the big one. And it better be, or I'm opening my window up here. And I'm not kidding you, don't push me, I'll scream to the skies and show you all!! And if all else fails, and I don't want to have to do so myself, but if no one listens, then I may have to wear one of those pink p&%$y hats to wear around and show people I'm no longer kidding, and I am one to be taken seriously this time.

Let us celebrate or we'll scream!!

[Elessar]

Can't wait, got my fireworks ready! Might as well join the fun since we know that THIS is finally the big one. And it better be, or I'm opening my window up here. And I'm not kidding you, don't push me, I'll scream to the skies and show you all!! And if all else fails, and I don't want to have to do so myself, but if no one listens, then I may have to wear one of those pink p&%$y hats to wear around and show people I'm no longer kidding, and I am one to be taken seriously this time.

Let us celebrate or we'll scream!!

Dripping with appropriate sarcasm!:lol:

[jimnyc]

Dripping with appropriate sarcasm!:lol:

Yes, maybe a little, but if things truly don't go my way - I can always just bail for awhile and ignore things and go :lalala: and claim that I'm too busy with all my clients right now. :thumb:

[jimnyc]

The Anti-Trump Whistleblower Story Looks Like Another Phony Scandal

The so-called whistleblower "scandal" that the media is hyping up every which way has Democrats once again falling all over each other to declare another "impeachable offense," despite having virtually no details about the conversation between Trump and Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky. But, like everything else that's been thrown at Trump, this appears to be another phony scandal. The Daily Wire's Ashe Schow reported Saturday that the whistleblower complaint "is nothing more than a rumor reported by someone in the intelligence community." In fact, CNN reported this fact, but buried it in an article:


The whistleblower didn't have direct knowledge of the communications, an official briefed on the matter told CNN. Instead, the whistleblower's concerns came in part from learning information that was not obtained during the course of their work, and those details have played a role in the administration's determination that the complaint didn't fit the reporting requirements under the intelligence whistleblower law, the official said.

Schow noted, "this is yet another anonymous source giving more context on what another anonymous source told a different outlet, but it still calls the entire story into question." The original Washington Post story, despite being on the front page, was vague, relying on “two former U.S. officials familiar with the matter” who were “speaking on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter publicly” and alleging Trump had made a “promise” to a world leader—which, based on what we know right now, is incorrect.


The Post filled out its story with information about a “standoff” between Acting Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire and Congress.

The Intelligence Community Inspector General, Michael Atkinson – who was appointed by Trump – determined the whistleblower complaint to be of “urgent concern,” according to the Post. But Maguire argued he was not required by law to turn the complaint over to congressional Democrats seeking to impeach Trump.

The reason Maguire didn’t turn the complaint over is because of what CNN reported – that the person who made the complaint had no direct knowledge of what was said and was merely reporting a rumor. Why the inspector general determined it “urgent and credible” remains to be seen.

Rest - https://pjmedia.com/trending/the-anti-trump-whistleblower-story-looks-like-another-phony-scandal/

[jimnyc]

Read a few stories today that said the Dems latest scheme against Trump is going to backfire and perhaps bite Biden in the ass. LOL Too funny if that happens! And it will be with his own recorded words too!!

--

Lindsey Graham Calls on DOJ to Probe Potential Criminal Acts by Biden Family in Ukraine

Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) went on with Maria Bartiromo Sunday on Sunday Morning Futures.

During their discussion Lindsey Graham called on the Department of Justice to probe the potential criminal acts between the Biden Family and Ukraine.

After leaving office in 2017, Vice President Joe Biden Bragged about strong-arming the government of Ukraine to fire its top prosecutor.

Joe Biden made the remarks during a meeting of foreign policy specialists. Biden said he, “Threatened Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko in March 2016 that the Obama administration would pull $1 billion in U.S. loan guarantees, sending the former Soviet republic toward insolvency, if it didn’t immediately fire Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin.” Biden suggested during his talk that Barack Obama was also in on the threat.

In April John Solomon revealed what Biden did not tell his audience. Joe Biden had Shokin fired because he was investigating bribes to Joe Biden’s son Hunter.

Shokin was investigating $3 million in funds that were being transferred out of Ukraine and into accounts in the United States at that time.

Joe Biden had him fired.

On Sunday Lindsey Graham said he was calling on the DOJ to probe the potential criminal acts of Biden Family in Ukraine.

Rest - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/09/breaking-lindsey-graham-calls-on-doj-to-probe-potential-criminal-acts-by-biden-family-in-ukraine-video/

[icansayit]

So the IG that testified a few days ago is lying?


Show me where I said that?

[pete311]

Show me where I said that?
Was I quoting you?

[icansayit]

Was I quoting you?


Or your eyes were always THAT Brown. You still didn't show me where I said that. Your copy of the DNC talking points is really old, and torn up. Did they REDACT it for you?

[Elessar]

Russ... seriously... the White House are illegally blocking the whistleblower reports so no shit there is lack of information. If this is nothing then why illegally block the report?


Jim this is simple. Trumps IG looked at the report and deemed it concerning and urgent. The White House ate blocking the report. Don’t be like this. This one is simple.


The protocol is for the IG to review the complaint and if credible pass it to congress. He did but the WH is blocking it.

The White House is blocking it?

You are retarded. You see a potential sensation and jump on it like a rookie MSM 'journalist'.

Let the investigation proceed without your "Expert Commentary". You look like a fool.

[pete311]

Or your eyes were always THAT Brown. You still didn't show me where I said that. Your copy of the DNC talking points is really old, and torn up. Did they REDACT it for you?

Maybe I need to say this again, was I quoting you?

[STTAB]

Unbelievable. You can't tell me the shitstorm that would hit Obama if it came out he bribed a foreign power into investigating Romney's son.

You have ZERO evidence that anyone was bribed .

And further Dishonest Pete, if you were TRULY concerned about bribes you would be outraged that Biden has admitted on tape that he bribed the President of Ukraine with US foreign aid to fire the prosecutor who actually was investigating his son back when Biden was VP.

But as usual with liberals, you don't REALLY care about the law. You only care about using the law against those who disagree with you.

[pete311]

The White House is blocking it?

You are retarded. You see a potential sensation and jump on it like a rookie MSM 'journalist'.

Let the investigation proceed without your "Expert Commentary". You look like a fool.

Some of you apparently don't realize the IG has testified to congress. He's a Trump appointee. Are you calling him a liar?

[pete311]

You have ZERO evidence that anyone was bribed .

And further Dishonest Pete, if you were TRULY concerned about bribes you would be outraged that Biden has admitted on tape that he bribed the President of Ukraine with US foreign aid to fire the prosecutor who actually was investigating his son back when Biden was VP.

But as usual with liberals, you don't REALLY care about the law. You only care about using the law against those who disagree with you.

Yeah because the white house is blocking the whistleblower report which is illegal. Can you understand that? Release the report if it's clean. Trumps IG thinks it's dirty.

[STTAB]

The protocol is for the IG to review the complaint and if credible pass it to congress. He did but the WH is blocking it.


False, the protocol is for the IG to pass it along to Congress IF the DNI allows him to, there is NO protocol for going around the DNI. And in fact the law itself doesn't even specify what can or should be done if the DNI refuses to pass anything along to Congress.

The White House is not keeping this from Congress, the DNI is.

That being said, with how dishonest the Dems in Congress are, and with the way they attempt to weaponize EVERYTHING , I don't blame the DNI for saying "wait a minute, this is ridiculous"

Funny that no one is listening in on phone calls of members of Congress and reporting the content to the President so that he can be a check on them.......

[STTAB]

Yeah because the white house is blocking the whistleblower report which is illegal. Can you understand that? Release the report if it's clean. Trumps IG thinks it's dirty.

False, and I can totally see why you totally ignored the factual accounting of BIden's actions as VP. Pete, I'll say this again, YOU are what is wrong with this country. We have enough stupid people doing and saying stupid things that we don't need to add to the problem by having smart people lie for political reasons.

You don't give one shit about what is or what is not illegal. You prove that over and over and over again, we've known it since the first day that it was made public that Hillary Clinton was using a private email server to circumvent FOIA laws and that in the process she mishandled classified material, and you have spent the last 3 years further proving it with regards to the Russian Collusion hoax. We don't need any more proof. You're guilty of being a dishonest turd.

[STTAB]

Some of you apparently don't realize the IG has testified to congress. He's a Trump appointee. Are you calling him a liar?


You keep pointing out that he's a Trump appointee as if that matters. It does not. As for his testimony. His testimony amounted to "I have not been authorized to discuss this matter with you" he couldn't even confirm that he labeled the complaint as urgent. The only "evidence" we have seen so far is some reporting from sources that we know have gotten stories wrong time after time after time.

You believe this story for the same reason you believe every other orange man bad story, because you want to.

[pete311]

You keep pointing out that he's a Trump appointee as if that matters. It does not. As for his testimony. His testimony amounted to "I have not been authorized to discuss this matter with you" he couldn't even confirm that he labeled the complaint as urgent. The only "evidence" we have seen so far is some reporting from sources that we know have gotten stories wrong time after time after time.

You believe this story for the same reason you believe every other orange man bad story, because you want to.

Keep up to date. Trump has admitted to asking a foreign power to investigate a political rival. That’s twice now and it’s not conservative it’s authoritarian.

[STTAB]

Keep up to date. Trump has admitted to asking a foreign power to investigate a political rival. That’s twice now and it’s not conservative it’s authoritarian.


Who gives a shit, Trump has EVERY authority to make sure corruption is investigated.

And once again you admit that you don't really care about law and order by refusing to even acknowledge that Biden has admitted that as VP he bribed a Ukranian official into dropping a criminal investigation into a company his son had ties with.

If you dropped dead today Pete the US would be a better country, and that goes for every dishonest pile of shit liberal out there.

[pete311]

Who gives a shit, Trump has EVERY authority to make sure corruption is investigated.

And once again you admit that you don't really care about law and order by refusing to even acknowledge that Biden has admitted that as VP he bribed a Ukranian official into dropping a criminal investigation into a company his son had ties with.

If you dropped dead today Pete the US would be a better country, and that goes for every dishonest pile of shit liberal out there.

No, it’s illegal and you are gullible and a traitor to our country.

[STTAB]

No, it’s illegal and you are gullible and a traitor to our country.


It's not illegal and your laughable charges of treason further prove that you don't give one shit about the law other than using it as a weapon to use against those with whom you disagree.

[pete311]

It's not illegal and your laughable charges of treason further prove that you don't give one shit about the law other than using it as a weapon to use against those with whom you disagree.

Yes it is illegal

[jimnyc]

I can't believe some still run with this shit. Run with Kavanaugh crap. Trump is woking with Russia and Putin as well. I don't know if this is pathetic, or desperation to be right, or desperation to get rid of Trump over TDS. What I DO know is that it's BS. The very fact that every single leftie runs RIGHT PAST Biden and what he did when he was VP, completely 100% ignore it, ignore even the media that wondered and questioned and still do his actions. Right past every last bit of it and on to the desperation of calling out Trump for daring to ask about it or want it investigated. Well now others want it investigated as well. PROOF of what Biden said in his own words is out there, as are the media. As per usual though, ignore the left and play gotcha games instead. No surprise to me. But nothing is coming against Trump except for the same 'ol same 'ol, which makes everyone yawn except for those that are desperate, and fall for the same crap over and over and over and over.

[STTAB]

Yes it is illegal


Cite the US Code then Petey

And further , if you're so fucking concerned about what is and what is not illegal why do you remain silent on oh everything people in the USG did to try to hurt Trump IE the Russian Hoax, OR why didn't you call for Adam Schiff to be arrested when he got caught trying to get dirt on Trump from who he thought were Ukranian government officials, or when Hillary used a private email server to avoid FOIA law, OR about Biden withholding $1B from Ukraine until they fired a prosecutor he wanted fired?

The answer, of course, is that you do NOT care about illegal activity, you only care about "orange man bad"

You disgust me Pete, you are beyond dishonest. You don't have a single ounce of integrity in your entire body. Not one.

[jimnyc]

They don't know the whistleblower?

And the whistle blower themselves has never heard the call? A whistleblower over something they heard about? This is what CNN is saying. And the FM spoke of the conversation already and stated there was zero pressure about anything.

It's a shit burger from the known shitty left, nothing more. The complaint DOES NOT even fit under reporting requirements under the intelligence whistleblower law... - That's from a CNN article.

But I'm happy to see the whining continue, and talks of impeachment. Let them go on!! The longer and closer to the election, I think the more fuckups they make the better. I hope this harms Biden! LOL

[jimnyc]

Cite the US Code then Petey

And further , if you're so fucking concerned about what is and what is not illegal why do you remain silent on oh everything people in the USG did to try to hurt Trump IE the Russian Hoax, OR why didn't you call for Adam Schiff to be arrested when he got caught trying to get dirt on Trump from who he thought were Ukranian government officials, or when Hillary used a private email server to avoid FOIA law, OR about Biden withholding $1B from Ukraine until they fired a prosecutor he wanted fired?

The answer, of course, is that you do NOT care about illegal activity, you only care about "orange man bad"

You disgust me Pete, you are beyond dishonest. You don't have a single ounce of integrity in your entire body. Not one.

Under the reporting requirements - officials have already stated that it doesn't meet the requirements. Trump is thinking of releasing anyway, to shut them the F up, but I wouldn't. If it doesn't meet it, don't give them crap.

[STTAB]

Under the reporting requirements - officials have already stated that it doesn't meet the requirements. Trump is thinking of releasing anyway, to shut them the F up, but I wouldn't. If it doesn't meet it, don't give them crap.


I believe in transparency to the utmost, but honestly I'm sick of this so from now on I hope Trump tells Congress to go fuck themselves every time they request anything. Good luck investigating with zero witnesses testifying, zero evidence turned over, nothing, nada.

I'll tell you what to, and I've posted this before, I'd order the DNI to stop giving the The Gang of 8 any classified intel as long as Adam Schiff was in their ranks as well. That motherfucker has been lying for 3 plus years .

[pete311]

Cite the US Code then Petey

And further , if you're so fucking concerned about what is and what is not illegal why do you remain silent on oh everything people in the USG did to try to hurt Trump IE the Russian Hoax, OR why didn't you call for Adam Schiff to be arrested when he got caught trying to get dirt on Trump from who he thought were Ukranian government officials, or when Hillary used a private email server to avoid FOIA law, OR about Biden withholding $1B from Ukraine until they fired a prosecutor he wanted fired?

The answer, of course, is that you do NOT care about illegal activity, you only care about "orange man bad"

You disgust me Pete, you are beyond dishonest. You don't have a single ounce of integrity in your entire body. Not one.

Same conclusion as with Mueller report

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/52/30121

The Mueller report informed or reminded everyone that it is illegal for a political campaign to accept a “thing of value” from a foreign government.

You bring up some nice conspiracy theory diversion issues, but maybe take that up with the DoJ and Barr. Obviously they aren't interested in them or they'd have already opened up investigations.

[jimnyc]

I wonder why officials have stated outright that this leak, this "whistleblower" report, DID NOT meet the requirements of the code in order to mandate reporting? Hell, even story tellers at CNN stated as much. I wonder why none of them have checked in with Pete first?

But lets let it continue. :)

And lets assume they do find out he must release it, and they do. Now we get to laugh as they push and complain forever over the nothingburger that comes from it.

Or better yet, they don't have to, but the ignorant on the left start pushing crap again for impeachment. THEN the nothingburger comes out, and ALL of the left looks retarded in time for the election. :laugh:

The folks on the left have a LOT being investigated for all the actions leading up to Trump being elected, then the actions afterwards. I can only HOPE that they add to that somehow, and not learn from mistakes, and win an election for the right AND harm left candidates at the same time. :)

[pete311]

I wonder why officials have stated outright that this leak, this "whistleblower" report, DID NOT meet the requirements of the code in order to mandate reporting? Hell, even story tellers at CNN stated as much. I wonder why none of them have checked in with Pete first?

But lets let it continue. :)

And lets assume they do find out he must release it, and they do. Now we get to laugh as they push and complain forever over the nothingburger that comes from it.

Or better yet, they don't have to, but the ignorant on the left start pushing crap again for impeachment. THEN the nothingburger comes out, and ALL of the left looks retarded in time for the election. :laugh:

The folks on the left have a LOT being investigated for all the actions leading up to Trump being elected, then the actions afterwards. I can only HOPE that they add to that somehow, and not learn from mistakes, and win an election for the right AND harm left candidates at the same time. :)

Source for your first statement? Why do you think Trump asking a foreign nation to investigate a political opponent is a nothing burger?

[pete311]

btw, if Trump was so concerned about Ukraine corruption why did we end up releasing the $250M aid 2 days after the whistleblower submitted the complaint... with $140M extra.

[STTAB]

Same conclusion as with Mueller report

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/52/30121

The Mueller report informed or reminded everyone that it is illegal for a political campaign to accept a “thing of value” from a foreign government.

You bring up some nice conspiracy theory diversion issues, but maybe take that up with the DoJ and Barr. Obviously they aren't interested in them or they'd have already opened up investigations.


Trump was acting in the capacity of US President when he made that phone call you moron. Do you not think the USG makes deals with foreign governments all the time "you give us this, we'll give you that?" You fucking dishonest troll. Under your stupid definition every time a US President made a deal with a foreign leader it would be illegal because well that's corruption.

[STTAB]

btw, if Trump was so concerned about Ukraine corruption why did we end up releasing the $250M aid 2 days after the whistleblower submitted the complaint... with $140M extra.


Probably b/c he was told "well look into it" Duh

[STTAB]

My Pete impersonation

"Trump asking a foreign government to look into allegations of corruption when we have a motherfucker on video admitting that he bribed an official is illegal, but Democrats wasting 3 years and hundreds of millions of dollars investigating Trump when they haven't actually shown us one shred of evidence that he has committed any crimes is just good oversight"

Pete, you are a pathetic worm and myself can't help but hope that karma gets you someday.

[icansayit]

No, it’s illegal and you are gullible and a traitor to our country.

Talking about yourself makes us all feel better about knowing... THE REAL PETEY. ^^^^

[jimnyc]

Comedy gold, Jerry, gold I tell ya!!

Put Petey, Maxine, Whiney Schiff & maybe someone like Alyssa Milano for notoriety, and who also swallows the same garbage - THAT would be comedy gold right there!! I say Pete kills Maxine in due time, but, if not, she's not all that bad on the eyes... :coffee:

[jimnyc]

Someone ignores the behavior of the left for YEARS and YEARS, and defends the worst of them and ignores the worst of them - but never condemns the worst in them - and then calls US traitors????!!!!!

Absolute Comedy Gold going on in here right now. The Deplorable, racist, Xenophobic, murderous traitors that we are!!! :laugh2:

[STTAB]

Comedy gold, Jerry, gold I tell ya!!

Put Petey, Maxine, Whiney Schiff & maybe someone like Alyssa Milano for notoriety, and who also swallows the same garbage - THAT would be comedy gold right there!! I say Pete kills Maxine in due time, but, if not, she's not all that bad on the eyes... :coffee:


Um dude, what?

This is Maxine Waters

12200


I pray to Baby Jesus that you meant AOC is easy on the eyes


Check here out here JImmy, this is back when she was just a bartender/ho allegedly from her old FB, who knows for sure. I'd sure like to find out though LOL


12202

12203

[jimnyc]

^^^

Nope, had the right one - this is Pete we are hooking up here....

[icansayit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXA--dj2-CY

[pete311]

My Pete impersonation

"Trump asking a foreign government to look into allegations of corruption when we have a motherfucker on video admitting that he bribed an official is illegal, but Democrats wasting 3 years and hundreds of millions of dollars investigating Trump when they haven't actually shown us one shred of evidence that he has committed any crimes is just good oversight"

Pete, you are a pathetic worm and myself can't help but hope that karma gets you someday.

Actually spending time on DP is my karma.

[STTAB]

Actually spending time on DP is my karma.


No one is making you stay you dishonest fucking pile of shit.

[pete311]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXA--dj2-CY


Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin was not Biden's political opponent dumb ass

[pete311]

No one is making you stay you dishonest fucking pile of shit.

tissue?

[STTAB]

tissue?
I do tear up when I think about how miserably our educational system has failed morons like yourself.

[jimnyc]

And yet someone STILL comes here and STILL reads all the threads, even though only replies when it's advantageous..... Ignores the rest.... claims he is SOOOOOOOOOOO busy, but then conveniently finds time to be here when he thinks he and his lefty friends have Trump finally THIS time!!! No, shit, ok, THIS time we got him. Shoot, missed again, but THIS time it's for real, you'll see!!

And continues to come, continues to look foolish & makes all kinds of weird and outlandish claims. Funny stuff, really! Like I said, Comedy Gold!! Some on the left want failure SO SO SO SO SO badly and make it SO SO obvious. And then it's just 100% Comedy Gold watching the disappointment ooze into their posts. :laugh2:

[jimnyc]

I do tear up when I think about how miserably our educational system has failed morons like yourself.

Not me, not at all. A TON of it is called "Personal Responsibility", and that will reflect in many many ways. But it does start, sadly, for some from grade school forward. But for most folks, they are fine, but may be doing little to pass - based on personal responsibility. And then graduate on to bigger and better things to ignore, and bigger expectations from others and the government - from an ever growing list of expectations and facets of life.

Sorry, I don't feel bad for the endless folks that PUT THEMSELVES into such situations.

I don't think Pete is one of them, quite honestly. I think he is just an ignorant leftist though, and one who cares less but about one side and himself.

[STTAB]

And yet someone STILL comes here and STILL reads all the threads, even though only replies when it's advantageous..... Ignores the rest.... claims he is SOOOOOOOOOOO busy, but then conveniently finds time to be here when he thinks he and his lefty friends have Trump finally THIS time!!! No, shit, ok, THIS time we got him. Shoot, missed again, but THIS time it's for real, you'll see!!

And continues to come, continues to look foolish & makes all kinds of weird and outlandish claims. Funny stuff, really! Like I said, Comedy Gold!! Some on the left want failure SO SO SO SO SO badly and make it SO SO obvious. And then it's just 100% Comedy Gold watching the disappointment ooze into their posts. :laugh2:


If you're forcing Petey to post here, knock it off :laugh:

[jimnyc]

If you're forcing Petey to post here, knock it off :laugh:

On a daily basis, I reach out to him via email, and yank his ear literally and move him to his computer, and then put his fingers on the KB before I let go.... and then he is kind enough to share his comedy with us. :)

[icansayit]

You never fail to disclose your miserable, uneducated, propensity to expose the real meaning of ignorance, based on stupidity, hatred of self, and irresponsibility you have obviously earned, living next to the cesspool in your parent's basement Sewer Water Heater.

The more you come her to call us names, and make such a fool of yourself for all to see. Proves what a massive mistake your parents made...whenever, for not choosing the Option of ROE V. WADE, as an alternative to the punishment they must feel...knowing you are such a rabid, Leftist with such a tiny brain.


http://m.quickmeme.com/img/0e/0ee44a1219374c66cd81d5e1d93897841c6f8f09a2b2cbd75f f94be7e41d1105.jpg

[STTAB]

On a daily basis, I reach out to him via email, and yank his ear literally and move him to his computer, and then put his fingers on the KB before I let go.... and then he is kind enough to share his comedy with us. :)


Sad thing is, if you go over to a place like USMB you will see dhonest troll liberals who make Petey look like a good smart guy.

[pete311]

I do tear up when I think about how miserably our educational system has failed morons like yourself.

yet somehow I manage a six figure income the past ten years :clap:

[jimnyc]

yet somehow I manage a six figure income the past ten years :clap:

Not me, I like to be a bum. :)

[icansayit]

yet somehow I manage a six figure income the past ten years :clap:


Most of the CROOKED Democrats in Congress get the same. And look how stupid, dishonest, and how much their lying has gotten them.

Birds of a Feather...and being one of the supposed RICH folks the Dems hate (while crossing their fingers) Does not IMPRESS Any of us here on DP.

Because you make a lot of money...doesn't mean you are smarter than anyone..unless you lie, and cheat like your Dems.

[SassyLady]

Same conclusion as with Mueller report

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/52/30121

The Mueller report informed or reminded everyone that it is illegal for a political campaign to accept a “thing of value” from a foreign government.

You bring up some nice conspiracy theory diversion issues, but maybe take that up with the DoJ and Barr. Obviously they aren't interested in them or they'd have already opened up investigations.

So, Biden committed treason?

[pete311]

So, Biden committed treason?

When did Biden ask a foreign power to investigate a political opponent?

[hjmick]

This is hilarious... and buried deep in CNN's damning article...


The whistleblower didn't have direct knowledge of the communications, an official briefed on the matter told CNN. Instead, the whistleblower's concerns came in part from learning information that was not obtained during the course of their work, and those details have played a role in the administration's determination that the complaint didn't fit the reporting requirements under the intelligence whistleblower law, the official said.


So the whistleblower's uncle's wife's sister's husband's cousin said...


New revelations deepen scandal over Trump whistleblower complaint (https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/20/politics/donald-trump-whistleblower/index.html)


I've made no secret of my disdain for the sitting President, but come on...

[pete311]

This is hilarious... and buried deep in CNN's damning article...


The whistleblower didn't have direct knowledge of the communications, an official briefed on the matter told CNN. Instead, the whistleblower's concerns came in part from learning information that was not obtained during the course of their work, and those details have played a role in the administration's determination that the complaint didn't fit the reporting requirements under the intelligence whistleblower law, the official said.


So the whistleblower's uncle's wife's sister's husband's cousin said...


New revelations deepen scandal over Trump whistleblower complaint (https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/20/politics/donald-trump-whistleblower/index.html)


I've made no secret of my disdain for the sitting President, but come on...

Then release the report. Trump already confirmed much of the report via twitter and his press conferences.

[icansayit]

Then release the report. Trump already confirmed much of the report via twitter and his press conferences.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTg4WLhi1So

[STTAB]

yet somehow I manage a six figure income the past ten years :clap:


Somehow I doubt the veracity of your statement

[STTAB]

This is hilarious... and buried deep in CNN's damning article...


The whistleblower didn't have direct knowledge of the communications, an official briefed on the matter told CNN. Instead, the whistleblower's concerns came in part from learning information that was not obtained during the course of their work, and those details have played a role in the administration's determination that the complaint didn't fit the reporting requirements under the intelligence whistleblower law, the official said.


So the whistleblower's uncle's wife's sister's husband's cousin said...


New revelations deepen scandal over Trump whistleblower complaint (https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/20/politics/donald-trump-whistleblower/index.html)


I've made no secret of my disdain for the sitting President, but come on...


We need more people like you and Kath to have that attitude, this HAS to stop, this non stop witch hunt is going to destroy this country.

[pete311]

We need more people like you and Kath to have that attitude, this HAS to stop, this non stop witch hunt is going to destroy this country.

Keep up, Trump has admitted to most of what has been reported.

[STTAB]

Keep up, Trump has admitted to most of what has been reported.

Complete lie, as usual from you.

J'll ask again. Do you have ANYTHING to say about the video of Biden laughing about threatening to withhold funds if Ukraine didn't fire the prosecutor he wanted fired?

Of course you don't because you are a dishonest pile of shit.

[pete311]

Complete lie, as usual from you.

J'll ask again. Do you have ANYTHING to say about the video of Biden laughing about threatening to withhold funds if Ukraine didn't fire the prosecutor he wanted fired?

Of course you don't because you are a dishonest pile of shit.

I've already commented on that. Apples and oranges. The prosecutor is not a political opponent. Also Ukraine reporters have already cleared up that bogus story. The prosecutor was also being pressured to leave by many agencies and organizations due to him not investigating corruption. You need to actually find out the facts. It's a total bogus story.

[STTAB]

I've already commented on that. Apples and oranges. The prosecutor is not a political opponent. Also Ukraine reporters have already cleared up that bogus story. The prosecutor was also being pressured to leave by many agencies and organizations due to him not investigating corruption. You need to actually find out the facts. It's a total bogus story.

This is how dumb you are Petey. I don't care about the story, and I've never even once suggested that Biden should be prosecuted or even investigated. The ONLY reason I bring it up is because it is the same god damned thing. Our government bribes people to do what they want it to do every fucking day and you know this Petey. Ever fucking day we tell other countries "we'll do this if you do that" and that could EASILY be called bribery.

As for your very stupid "political opponent" argument, is Trump just supposed to not touch anything that Democrats might be tangentially connected to? Of course that is what you believe it is wrong for anyone to investigate any potential Democrat crimes.

And this is easily proven by the fact that you haven't been screaming for the last two years about the Obama Administration running a completely disengious criminal investigation against a political opponent.

Petey, you are a dishonest dumb fuck.

[pete311]

This is how dumb you are Petey. I don't care about the story, and I've never even once suggested that Biden should be prosecuted or even investigated. The ONLY reason I bring it up is because it is the same god damned thing. Our government bribes people to do what they want it to do every fucking day and you know this Petey. Ever fucking day we tell other countries "we'll do this if you do that" and that could EASILY be called bribery.

As for your very stupid "political opponent" argument, is Trump just supposed to not touch anything that Democrats might be tangentially connected to? Of course that is what you believe it is wrong for anyone to investigate any potential Democrat crimes.

And this is easily proven by the fact that you haven't been screaming for the last two years about the Obama Administration running a completely disengious criminal investigation against a political opponent.

Petey, you are a dishonest dumb fuck.

And you think Trump really gives a fuck about corruption in Ukraine. :lol:

[Kathianne]

And you think Trump really gives a fuck about corruption in Ukraine. :lol:
That’s Biden’s argument. That his son’s Company was involved was purely coincidental. Right. $50k per month.

[jimnyc]

DP's Comedy Edition continues....

I couldn't have searched the internet high and low, to find someone, just one individual to come here and entertain us daily. And not with just jokes or "funny stuff", but with "reality internet" - seeing how some live, the beliefs they have, what the speak of and what they try and hide from - and holy crap is this better than anyone I could have found myself. The reality of it all is what makes it so darn hilarious. And truth be told, the best part, is that Pete is far from alone - he is showing us the life of so many on the left, how they must truly feel inside, and how much things like TDS can run their lives.

It's like a non-stop "WTF" are you possibly thinking of hilarity!!! And then it just keeps repeating itself, like a crappy spicy dinner! :laugh2:

[STTAB]

DP's Comedy Edition continues....

I couldn't have searched the internet high and low, to find someone, just one individual to come here and entertain us daily. And not with just jokes or "funny stuff", but with "reality internet" - seeing how some live, the beliefs they have, what the speak of and what they try and hide from - and holy crap is this better than anyone I could have found myself. The reality of it all is what makes it so darn hilarious. And truth be told, the best part, is that Pete is far from alone - he is showing us the life of so many on the left, how they must truly feel inside, and how much things like TDS can run their lives.

It's like a non-stop "WTF" are you possibly thinking of hilarity!!! And then it just keeps repeating itself, like a crappy spicy dinner! :laugh2:


I don't think it's funny at all. I'm saddened by how stupid and or dishonest so many Americans are.

[jimnyc]

Same here, thanks but no thanks, deleted your thanks and likes little Petey. Appreciate ya though!!!

[pete311]

The Senate has just unanimously called for Trump to release the Ukraine whistleblower complaint. That is ALL members of congress.

[Elessar]

The Senate has just unanimously called for Trump to release the Ukraine whistleblower complaint. That is ALL members of congress.

Says you. Can you be a real member and offer a link, or
do the rest of us have to trust you to honest?

[pete311]

Says you. Can you be a real member and offer a link, or
do the rest of us have to trust you to honest?

https://www.axios.com/senate-whistleblower-complaint-ukraine-38249a7e-83e9-4467-944b-8496df3157de.html

Pelosi also just announced an official impeachment inquiry.

[jimnyc]

And then things will be "President Pence" - and likely and hopefully be even tougher against any liberal policies and agendas. Especially the lbgtq folks. :laugh2:

Only helps Trump get re-elected anyway, mark my words, but President Pence with harsher policies would be hilarious!! LOL

[jimnyc]

On Tuesday afternoon, President Trump announced on Twitter that he has "authorized the release tomorrow of the complete, fully declassified and unredacted transcript of my phone conversation with President Zelensky of Ukraine." This came less than two hours before House Democrats are set to meet to discuss launching an impeachment investigation. Trump seems extremely confident that releasing the transcript will vindicate him. "You will see it was a very friendly and totally appropriate call," he tweeted. "No pressure and, unlike Joe Biden and his son, NO quid pro quo! This is nothing more than a continuation of the Greatest and most Destructive Witch Hunt of all time!"


....You will see it was a very friendly and totally appropriate call. No pressure and, unlike Joe Biden and his son, NO quid pro quo! This is nothing more than a continuation of the Greatest and most Destructive Witch Hunt of all time!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 24, 2019

Rest - https://pjmedia.com/trending/breaking-trump-authorizes-release-of-transcript-of-phone-call-with-ukrainian-president/

[jimnyc]

I think this is a great idea - ALL of the truth and transcripts. To know the context of what Trump was doing - we need to know what Biden was doing in his transcripts.


--

RNC Calls on Joe Biden to Follow President Trump’s Example and Release Transcripts of Calls to Ukraine Pertaining to His Money Laundering Scheme

Earlier today President Trump announced he would release the full, unredacted transcript of his phone call to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky from July.

President Trump“I am currently at the United Nations representing our Country, but have authorized the release tomorrow of the complete, fully declassified and unredacted transcript of my phone conversation with President Zelensky of Ukraine. You will see it was a very friendly and totally appropriate call. No pressure and, unlike Joe Biden and his son, NO quid pro quo! This is nothing more than a continuation of the Greatest and most Destructive Witch Hunt of all time!” Trump said in a pair of tweets Tuesday afternoon.

...

This afternoon the RNC called on Joe Biden to release the transcripts of his calls to Ukraine pertaining to the money laundering scheme to his son Hunter Biden.

Republican National Committee (RNC) Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel released the following statement in response to Joe Biden’s baseless call for impeachment:

“First it was the Russia hoax. Now it’s the Ukraine hoax.”

“Once again, Joe Biden has shown he is just as extreme as the rest of the 2020 Democrats who are desperate to bring President Trump down. Instead of backing a baseless impeachment effort, Biden should be answering for the only scandal that exists: Why a corrupt Ukrainian company paid his son $50,000 a month to lobby the Obama-Biden administration, and why Biden threatened the Ukrainians if they failed to fire a prosecutor investigating the company.”

“Now that the President has authorized the release of the transcript of his call with President Zelensky, we call on Biden to release the transcripts of his calls as Vice President with Ukrainian and Chinese leaders while his son was conducting shady business deals in those countries.”

Rest - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/09/rnc-calls-on-joe-biden-to-follow-president-trumps-example-and-release-transcripts-of-calls-to-ukraine-pertaining-to-his-money-laundering-scheme/

[icansayit]

https://www.axios.com/senate-whistleblower-complaint-ukraine-38249a7e-83e9-4467-944b-8496df3157de.html

Pelosi also just announced an official impeachment inquiry.


Nad(less) Nadler has been hopscotching around, unable to identify what He, and his merry idiots are doing for months now, since the Mueller fiasco didn't work for them.

Better yet. IF Every member of the House of Representatives (from both sides of the aisle) vote to Impeach.

It's all for NAUGHT. The Senate will turn it down, and Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, John Roberts will have to preside over the Senate Like a Court Case. WHICH WILL NOT HAPPEN.

Pelosi, Schumer, Schiff, and Nadler with the rest of the HOUSE Collection of Intellectual Midgets from the left...only want to stop the President because...as LEWANDOWSKI said last week...Democrats Hate Trump, More than they Love America.

[jimnyc]

Not getting 2/3rds vote anyway, so all would be a bin waste of time AND likely a reelection for Trump.

Trump needs to release this transcript.

And I think the Biden conversations should follow.

How long before Trump releases the transcript, it shows nothing untoward was done, and the left tries to move the goal posts somehow, someway? :laugh:

[Elessar]

Whistleblower Complaint Involves Trump Communication With Foreign Leader
https://www.wsj.com/articles/whistleblower-complaint-involves-trump-communication-with-foreign-leader-11568898983
(https://www.wsj.com/articles/whistleblower-complaint-involves-trump-communication-with-foreign-leader-11568898983)
I make no comments until more comes out. Seems interesting.

It seems as if you went back on the above statement, trusting unverified claims instead.

Pretty weak, even for you Petey.

[Kathianne]

Not getting 2/3rds vote anyway, so all would be a bin waste of time AND likely a reelection for Trump.

Trump needs to release this transcript.

And I think the Biden conversations should follow.

How long before Trump releases the transcript, it shows nothing untoward was done, and the left tries to move the goal posts somehow, someway? :laugh:
He's said the unredacted transcript will be released tomorrow. The whistleblower complaint by the end of the week.

No sooner had he said the transcript would be released, when Dems started on the complaint.

Everything Biden did to interact with both Ukraine and China need to be investigated, in the Senate if possible.

Like hjmick you all know my feelings on this president, but the insanity of all these investigations and impeachment talk since day one is beyond undermining our system of government.

The Dems must know that all their future judicial appointments, cabinet appointees, and investigations are going to be on them.

[hjmick]

He's said the unredacted transcript will be released tomorrow. The whistleblower complaint by the end of the week.

No sooner had he said the transcript would be released, when Dems started on the complaint.

Everything Biden did to interact with both Ukraine and China need to be investigated, in the Senate if possible.

Like hjmick you all know my feelings on this president, but the insanity of all these investigations and impeachment talk since day one is beyond undermining our system of government.

The Dems must know that all their future judicial appointments, cabinet appointees, and investigations are going to be on them.



Here's the way I see it...

Nothing will come of this, and if something does it won't be to force Trump from office. Why? Three words: President Mike Pence. Pence is a true conservative, unlike Trump, and they don't want Pence in the big chair for any amount of time. No, regardless of whether or not they have enough to impeach Trump (and I find it difficult to believe they would be unable to find something... anything), this whole thing, to my mind, is more about smearing his name (like he hasn't done that enough himself), staining it in voters' minds before the next election. Not his base, but those who may be thinking about voting for him (though I find it difficult to believe that anyone who is waffling would think voting Trump is a good idea... lesser of two evils... the devil you know... I suppose... fuck knows I wouldn't vote for any of the democrats being presented as their best...). This is also an effort to hamstring Trump, make it difficult for him to get anything done between now and the next election. They are convinced they are going to win. Again.

[BoogyMan]

The most interesting part of this for me is that the accusation being made against the president is EXACTLY what was done with the dossier that was solicited from a foreign agent and fraudulently used to get FISA warrants.

The level of dishonesty and hypocrisy is sickening.

[LongTermGuy]

The most interesting part of this for me is that the accusation being made against the president is EXACTLY what was done with the dossier that was solicited from a foreign agent and fraudulently used to get FISA warrants.

The level of dishonesty and hypocrisy is sickening.

Right on Bro....It will blow up in their Face....Just excessive TRUMP Hate....They have Nothing and it will go Nowhere...just keeping their Lemmings happy for now....Poor Nancy trying to keep her false teeth in her mouth while babbling garbage.

[Russ]

Russ... seriously... the White House are illegally blocking the whistleblower reports so no shit there is lack of information. If this is nothing then why illegally block the report?

You're just repeating the CNN lines, and you know it. The White House didn't "illegally" block the whistleblower reports - the DNI guy blocked releasing the whistleblower report on his own authority. You can guess that the White House asked him to do it, like CNN, but that is just your guess.

[Russ]

On Tuesday afternoon, President Trump announced on Twitter that he has "authorized the release tomorrow of the complete, fully declassified and unredacted transcript of my phone conversation with President Zelensky of Ukraine." This came less than two hours before House Democrats are set to meet to discuss launching an impeachment investigation. Trump seems extremely confident that releasing the transcript will vindicate him. "You will see it was a very friendly and totally appropriate call," he tweeted. "No pressure and, unlike Joe Biden and his son, NO quid pro quo! This is nothing more than a continuation of the Greatest and most Destructive Witch Hunt of all time!"



Rest - https://pjmedia.com/trending/breaking-trump-authorizes-release-of-transcript-of-phone-call-with-ukrainian-president/

I heard that Chucky Schumer has already said that somehow he's 'not satisfied with releasing the entire, unredacted transcript of the call between Trump and Zelensky'. Besides Chucky making himself look like a completely pathetic idiot, (a finely-honed skill he has practiced constantly over the years) this makes it sound like Chucky is already expecting that the transcript will make Trump look just fine. It will be just like the Mueller Report - no evidence against Trump, and the Dems sobbing like little kids. :laugh2:

[Russ]

One other thing - how is any part of Trump's call to the Ukraine any different from what Joe Biden did a few years back, and then bragged about it to the media? We don't even need a transcript - Joe bragged about it.

[BoogyMan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXA--dj2-CY&t=6s

[pete311]

It wasn’t a political opponent you stupid fucks. Why is that so hard to understand. Ukraine reporters also said everyone was trying to get the prosecutor fired because he wasn’t pursuing corruption. The story is all bogus. You guys are fixated on the diversion. It’s a non story. No crime.

[pete311]

I heard that Chucky Schumer has already said that somehow he's 'not satisfied with releasing the entire, unredacted transcript of the call between Trump and Zelensky'. Besides Chucky making himself look like a completely pathetic idiot, (a finely-honed skill he has practiced constantly over the years) this makes it sound like Chucky is already expecting that the transcript will make Trump look just fine. It will be just like the Mueller Report - no evidence against Trump, and the Dems sobbing like little kids. :laugh2:
The whistleblower has noted there is a string of evidence. It’s not just about the call which is why we need the report and the blower to testify.

[LongTermGuy]

It wasn’t a political opponent you stupid fucks. Why is that so hard to understand. Ukraine reporters also said everyone was trying to get the prosecutor fired because he wasn’t pursuing corruption. The story is all bogus. You guys are fixated on the diversion. It’s a non story. No crime.


You so angry Pete..calling us bad names.....:laugh:You guys (leftist) got nothing and you know it....One day soon pete you too will be yelling at the sky...again.:coffee:


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[BoogyMan]

The whistleblower has noted there is a string of evidence. It’s not just about the call which is why we need the report and the blower to testify.

Pete, you have seen the whistleblower report? If so, I am sure someone in the FBI is going to want to talk to you. Else, you lie.

[icansayit]

Pete, you have seen the whistleblower report? If so, I am sure someone in the FBI is going to want to talk to you. Else, you lie.


Is that right petey? Or is your real name....Jim Comey? Or....Jerry Nadless, or Chucky Cheeze Schumer.

Someone might like to know about your SIX FIGURE whistleblower status.

[jimnyc]

It wasn’t a political opponent you stupid fucks. Why is that so hard to understand. Ukraine reporters also said everyone was trying to get the prosecutor fired because he wasn’t pursuing corruption. The story is all bogus. You guys are fixated on the diversion. It’s a non story. No crime.

"WWWWaaaaAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! I'm gonna cry. Why are you people not falling for THIS one? I see it falling apart before it even starts. It pisses me off that no matter how many times I think I have them and him, it turns out to be bogus, and boy that angers me!"

...

You didn't care about what Biden did and STILL don't, so don't act like suddenly you can about corruption. Here - you WANT to see what happened, as you're not sure. Biden - there is multiple videos of him admitting to what he did with Ukraine, and you couldn't care less.

So one is proven, and you don't care. The other is an alleged accusation that needs investigation - and that bothers you to your triggered core!

Pathetic Comedy Gold Continues!!! :laugh2:

[jimnyc]

Now here is some serious truth. This is the kind of stuff that the leaders fear and push. And then of course the following lackies listen to whatever they puke out. And then the littlest of weenies of course just sit around triggered all the time talking about how great they are and how the rest of us suck.

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Why the Democrats Have Gone Insane

Impeach! Impeach, they say! If only he were Buckingham, they would take off his head as well. Trump has become the Democrats' version of Richard III, if he wasn't already. (Okay, he was.)

They even moved to open an impeachment "inquiry" (whatever that means -- a little bit chicken, if you ask me -- they've been doing it for the last three years anyway) after Trump announced he was making his phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky public Wednesday in unredacted form. And now he's announcing the whistleblower's complaint, whatever hand it is -- second, third, who knows? -- will be released later in the week. Talk about a reckless jumping of the gun on the Democrats' parts. This reeks of outright panic.

So what's really going on here? Why have the Democrats, to put it bluntly, gone berserk? Why are they risking a backlash of cosmic proportions (other than appeasing their psychotically-inflamed base, of course)?

One, distraction. They live in absolute fear of the coming revelations about the Russia probe, from Inspector General Horowitz but even more from the DOJ's John Durham, who can actually put people in jail. The Dems know -- if they have a brain (and a few do) -- these revelations are likely to point up the line at the leaders of the Democratic Party all the way to President Obama. They were all involved to one degree or another with illegally spying on or undermining Trump and his administration and supporters before and after the election. The extent of this we are only beginning to understand.

To put it mildly, not good. Whether you call this treason is up to you, but you can be sure Middle America (i. e. those elusive independent voters) will not appreciate it.

But there's something worse -- and Pelosi's knows it. The only hope for Democrats to defeat Trump is, remote and quixotic as it may be, impeachment. In the midst of the current brouhaha, Joe Biden -- their great (alas white male) hope -- is being exposed as not just a senile plagiarist, but a senile, corrupt plagiarist with a freaky family out of a Southern gothic novel with tentacles reaching into China and Ukraine. Again, not good.

Unfortunately, the rest of the Dems have tacked so far to the left that they wouldn't be able to win an election in Shenyang. Sanders, speaking of senility, is almost risible. He wants to restrict population for reasons of "climate change" when every one of the myriad social programs he so vehemently urges depends on strong continued population growth for economic survival, irrespective of taxes. (Is he that stupid? I don't think so. He's just a liar.)

As for his somewhat subtle clone, Ms. Warren, her proposals are if anything more extreme because she fails to acknowledge (though Colbert did his best to encourage her) that they are going to cost a ton of taxpayer money that approaches national bankruptcy. Even taxing the rich at one hundred percent won't come near supporting her ideas. Wait until Trump gets ahold of that.

So for the Democrats, trouble ahead, trouble behind. Ergo, impeachment.

Of course it will never happen. (Pelosi knows that too. That's why she never held a congressional vote on this "inquiry.") And indeed the whole spectacle might be amusing in a macabre sort of way if there weren't important things going on in the world. The president is engaged in negotiations of tremendous significance with the Chinese and trying to neuter as much as possible the violent mullahs of Iran, but the Democrats don't care. In fact, they would prefer he fail, and seem to be doing everything in their power to make it so. To call that un-American is an understatement. Actually, it's despicable and deeply immoral, not just for the citizens of this country, but for the world. What children!

https://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/why-the-democrats-have-gone-insane/

[jimnyc]

An interesting one minute listen - before Joe started hitting the Alzheimer's years...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b9faG2gHB0

[jimnyc]

Interesting. (What hjmick wrote about!)

You'll agree that this needs to be seriously looked into, right Pete?


Democrats Wrote to Ukraine in May 2018, Demanding It Investigate Trump

Democrats wrote to the Ukrainian government in May 2018 urging it to continue investigations into President Donald Trump’s alleged collusion with Russia in the 2016 presidential campaign — collusion later found not to exist.

The demand, which came from U.S. Senators Robert Menendez (D-NJ), Dick Durbin (D-IL), and Patrick Leahy (D-VT), resurfaced Wednesday in an opinion piece written by conservative Marc Thiessen in the Washington Post.

Ironically, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) declared Tuesday that the mere possibility that President Trump had asked Ukraine to continue an investigation of former Vice President Joe Biden — even without a quid pro quo — was enough to trigger an impeachment inquiry. (Biden boasted in 2018 that he had forced Ukraine to remove its prosecutor by threatening to withhold $1 billion in U.S. aid; he did not tell his audience at the Council on Foreign Relations that the prosecutor was looking into a firm on whose board his son, Hunter Biden, was serving.)

Thiessen observed (original links):

It got almost no attention, but in May [2018], CNN reported that Sens. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.), Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.) and Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.) wrote a letter to Ukraine’s prosecutor general, Yuriy Lutsenko, expressing concern at the closing of four investigations they said were critical to the Mueller probe. In the letter, they implied that their support for U.S. assistance to Ukraine was at stake. Describing themselves as “strong advocates for a robust and close relationship with Ukraine,” the Democratic senators declared, “We have supported [the] capacity-building process and are disappointed that some in Kyiv appear to have cast aside these [democratic] principles to avoid the ire of President Trump,” before demanding Lutsenko “reverse course and halt any efforts to impede cooperation with this important investigation.”

Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/09/24/democrats-wrote-to-ukraine-in-may-demanding-it-investigate-trump/

[jimnyc]

More not surprising crap BS. And the timing, just enough to try and ruin Trump's campaign, of which WILL backfire, as I stated for a long time now. But some more good info to keep into the mix...


Fox News: IG Found ‘Whistleblower’ Had ‘Political Bias’ in Favor of Trump 2020 Rival

Ed Henry of Fox News reported Tuesday evening on Hannity that the Office of Intelligence Community Inspector General found that the so-called “whistleblower” who raised concerns about President Donald Trump’s discussions with foreign leaders had a “political bias” in favor of one of Trump’s rivals in the 2020 presidential election.

The inspector general’s report has, thus far, been withheld by the administration.

Democrats allege that the Trump administration is violating the law in keeping the report from Congress, which was the chief reason cited Tuesday by Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) for changing her mind and supporting an impeachment inquiry.

It is not clear why the administration had withheld the report, though the White House announced Tuesday that it will release the report Wednesday, along with the transcript of Trump’s conversation with the new president of Ukraine.

Henry, citing a “senior official” with first-hand knowledge of the inspector general’s report, said that the anonymous “whistleblower” — who did not hear Trump’s conversation directly — was biased in favor of one of Trump’s 2020 opponents, though the official did not say which one.

Henry also said the official had told him that there would be no “smoking gun” in the transcript of Trump’s conversation with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky — even though there would be “at least a few words” in it that would cause unspecified problems for the White House.

Hannity added that his sources had also told him that Trump and Zelensky had only briefly discussed the aborted investigation into a company on whose board Hunter Biden, the son of former Vice President Joe Biden, had served. Biden boasted last year that he had forced the Ukrainian prosecutor out by threatening to withhold $1 billion in aid.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/09/24/fox-news-ig-found-whistleblower-had-political-bias-in-favor-of-trump-2020-rival/


Whistleblower Lawyer’s Resume Includes Work for Hillary Clinton, Chuck Schumer

The whistleblower who sparked a political firestorm after claiming that President Trump pressed Ukraine’s leader to re-open an inquiry into Hunter Biden’s business dealings is represented by national security lawyer Mark Zaid, a frequent Trump critic, as well as Andrew Bakaj, who worked for former Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY).

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff (D-CA) announced on Tuesday that the whistleblower expressed a desire to speak to the committee and confirmed that lawmakers are speaking to his or her counsel. Schiff added that the testimony could come as “soon as this week”:

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The announcement sparked questions about the lawyers representing the whistleblower. Andrew P. Bakaj, a former CIA official and founding/partnering manager of the Washington DC-based Compass Rose Legal Group, is one of the attorneys representing the whistleblower. He and the firm specialize in “adverse security clearance actions, whistleblower activities, and individuals, corporations, and organizations who are facing criminal and/or administrative investigations.”

Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/09/24/whistleblower-lawyers-resume-includes-work-for-hillary-clinton-chuck-schumer/

[jimnyc]

“Biden Does Have A Problem” On Ukraine Says… CNN Contributor

While most of the people in media are pushing the Democrat narrative on Ukraine, they are ignoring Joe Biden’s problems on this issue.

One contributor on CNN spoke out though, and he was quite frank.

Joe Biden has a problem here.


The Washington Free Beacon reports:


Burisma ‘Clearly’ Paid Hunter Biden to Sell Influence, Says CNN Contributor

Joe Biden’s family ties to an influence peddling scheme at a Ukrainian gas company could hurt the former vice president’s 2020 campaign, political scientist Ian Bremmer told CNN on Tuesday.

“[Joe] Biden does have a problem here. I have to say $50,000 a month for Hunter Biden—clearly to be selling influence because otherwise, no one would ever pay him that kind of money—for a company that, frankly, was pretty corrupt and has been before and has been since under investigation,” Bremmer said….

“It’s hard to imagine Joe Biden wasn’t aware of it,” Bremmer said. “I expect that President Obama, if he had known about the reality of the situation, would’ve probably told Biden ‘get rid of this, we shouldn’t have your son working in this situation.’ That would have cost him something. I fear even if maybe Biden wasn’t aware but Biden should’ve been aware that that would cause an issue for him.”

Rest, and video - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/09/biden-does-have-a-problem-on-ukraine-says-cnn-contributor-video/

[jimnyc]

Now I hope THIS is true, and Rudy and others know what they're doing!!


“They Have Walked Into a Trap!” -Rudy Giuliani Destroys Democrat Party, FBI and BIDEN CRIME FAMILY

President Trump personal attorney and former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani went on with Laura Ingraham on Tuesday night following Nancy Pelosi’s big impeachment announcement.

Democrats announced on Tuesday they will open an impeachment investigation on President Trump for speaking to the Ukrainian president on the phone about the Biden Crime Family’s money laundering from the Ukrainian people.

Rudy was ON FIRE and dropped several bombs on the unsuspecting Democrats during the interview.

Rudy warned Democrats, “They have walked into a trap.”

Rudy dropped this bomb on the Biden Crime Family, “I have the records of $3 million payments laundered to Biden’s son. I have the records. I have the dates. It went from Ukraine, to Latvia to Cyprus, Cyprus to him. That’s called evidence of guilty knowledge… He got $1.5 billion from China! $1.5 Billion!… They bought the Vice President of the United States!”

Rudy then went on to explain his role in the Ukrainian investigation. They’re not going to intimidate me! I never realized the depth of the corruption! I never knew the depth of this corruption. It’s massive, it’s shocking. And if I played a role in getting that out I did a service to my country and I’m proud of it. And everything I did was legal and defensible.”

Laura continued to interrupt Rudy throughout the interview.

Rudy then broke this development. He was investigating Ukraine because the Ukrainian prosecutor installed by Biden dismissed the case on the organization that was collecting false information on Donald Trump, on Paul Manafort and feeding it to the Democratic National Committee. “That organization was run by George Soros who then hired the crooked FBI agent who is now working for George Soros.”

This was an amazing video!

Video - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/09/they-have-walked-into-a-trap-rudy-giuliani-destroys-democrat-party-fbi-and-biden-crime-family-must-see-video/

[jimnyc]

How long before Trump releases the transcript, it shows nothing untoward was done, and the left tries to move the goal posts somehow, someway? :laugh:


He's said the unredacted transcript will be released tomorrow. The whistleblower complaint by the end of the week.

No sooner had he said the transcript would be released, when Dems started on the complaint.

Everything Biden did to interact with both Ukraine and China need to be investigated, in the Senate if possible.

Like hjmick you all know my feelings on this president, but the insanity of all these investigations and impeachment talk since day one is beyond undermining our system of government.

The Dems must know that all their future judicial appointments, cabinet appointees, and investigations are going to be on them.

Yup, apparently it was even quicker than I thought!! Right after he got onboard and said he would release the transcripts - the left knew they were screwed, so now laid out this BS, so they know they can claim this, but slowly crawl an investigation, and CRAP will come out of it anyway. They just want to solely investigate, disrupt and try to push negativity on Trump 24x7x365, in the hopes...


Surprise! After Trump Authorizes Release of Ukraine Phone Transcript, New Report of “Multiple Allegations” by Whistleblower

Here we go. Now that President Trump has authorized the release of the unredacted transcript of his July 25 phone call with Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky in response to a leak of an alleged whistleblower complaint regarding the phone call, there is a new report that the whistleblower has made “multiple allegations” against Trump. The new report also comes after Speaker Pelosi announced a formal impeachment inquiry against President Trump late Tuesday afternoon also in response to the leak.

CBS News White House correspondent Weijia Jiang added the new wrinkle in Tuesday night’s report for the CBS Evening News, “The White House is shrugging off the impeachment inquiry and sources say it shows how “desperate” the Democrats are. But @CBSNews has learned the whistleblower’s complaint involves multiple allegations.”

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Earlier Tuesday the Senate unanimously passed a resolution brought by Minority Leader Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) for the release of the whistleblower complaint to the House and Senate intelligence committees.

Rest - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/09/surprise-after-trump-authorizes-release-of-ukraine-phone-transcript-new-report-of-multiple-allegations-by-whistleblower/

[jimnyc]

Republicans, unlike Dems, agree on the rule of law. So they will demand to see transcripts, as do I. It will prove Trump did nothing wrong. If not...

But the Dems are never satisfied - as that is NOT their goal. Their goal is to get rid of him - or obstruct and toss shit at the fan 24x7 as something will stick, even if false BS, so that's their hope.

So even though I think Trump should follow the rule of law and release, as do leading R's - where do they stand on the facts of the issue - and Americans as well?
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Republicans Fire Back on Impeachment: 'Facts Be Damned'

Republicans reacted swiftly and bitterly Tuesday after House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., announced a formal impeachment inquiry of President Donald Trump for allegedly asking the Ukrainian president to investigate Joe Biden, with House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy declaring "facts be damned."

"Democrats are insisting this is their moment to impeach President Trump," the California Republican told reporters. "Speaker Pelosi's decree changes nothing."

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., bashed Pelosi's announcement as a "rush to judgment" demonstrating that Democrats will "descend even deeper into their obsession with re-litigating 2016."

"Speaker Pelosi's much-publicized efforts to restrain her far-left conference have finally crumbled," McConnell said. "House Democrats cannot help themselves."

Pelosi said the House would open a formal impeachment inquiry of President Trump, arguing that he had violated his oath of office and obligations under the Constitution.

"The president must be held accountable," she told reporters. "No one is above the law."

...

"It is all about undoing the 2016 election and the will of the American people," Jordan tweeted.

Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., a ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee, one of the panels involved in the probe, ripped Pelosi's decision as "pandering to progressive base. Constitution deserves better."

Rep. Mark Meadows, R-N.C., chair of the conservative House Freedom Caucus, tweeted: "You can't make it up."

"So we are all clear what's happening: House Democrats are supposedly beginning an impeachment inquiry, and building it on an anonymous second-hand complaint they haven't seen, which describes a call transcript that they haven't read," he said.

Republican National Committee Chair Ronna McDaniel denounced the Democratic move as "a political vendetta from the start."

"Since before he was even sworn in, far-left Democrats have plotted to impeach @realDonaldTrump," she said on Twitter.

"They didn’t get what they wanted from their Russia collusion delusion," she continued. "Now this."

McDaniel later tweeted that the whistleblower on the original complaint, who has not been identified, reportedly hired lawyers with ties to Democrats Hillary Clinton and Sen. Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, N.Y.

"Give me a break," she said.

But Sen. John Kennedy, R-La., said Pelosi's announcement amounted to very little, since the House Judiciary Committee has been conducting its own probe since April.

"She didn't say it's beginning," he added. "If she's talking about bringing articles of impeachment, that's very newsworthy.

"To say that the investigation continues, I get that it's news," Kennedy said, "but I don't think it's as newsworthy as some have argued."

Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyoming, said that "Speaker Pelosi and the House Democrats have abdicated their duty to the Constitution and to the American people by launching a partisan impeachment inquiry into the president."

Rep. Andy Biggs, R-Ariz., accused Democrats of being less concerned about the nation's spiraling debt than impeaching the president, tweeting "it's still growing" and including the most recent debt amount: $22.61 trillion.

Lambasting Pelosi for opening an investigation without seeing the whistleblower complaint or the Trump transcript was central to other Republican attacks.

Rep. Ralph Norman, R-S.C., tweeted: "Democrats have launched an impeachment inquiry based on a whistle-blower's second-hand account of a phone call, but couldn't bother to wait for the actual transcript of the call itself."

Rep. Jody Hice, R-Ga., poked that Pelosi's "red line" was "a whistleblower complaint (the report on which nobody has seen) expressing second-hand concerns about a phone call between President Trump and a foreign leader (the transcript of which nobody has read)."

Sen. Tom Cotton, R-Ark., praised Trump for his "unprecedented act of transparency" in pledging to release the transcript but said of Democrats: "I only wish they'd get the facts before jumping to a conclusion, while dedicating a fraction of the energy to improving the lives of Arkansans."

His colleague, Sen. John Barrasso, R-Wyo., said Democrats were "beating the impeachment drum and cranking up the outrage machine."

Tim Murtaugh, communications director for Trump's 2020 campaign, said Democrats were "trying to turn a Joe Biden scandal into a Donald Trump scandal.

"For almost three years, they've wanted to overturn the legitimate results of the 2016 election," he tweeted. "At first, they thought the Russia Hoax was their answer, but that predictably fell apart."

Rep. Kevin Brady, R-Texas, who sits on the House Ways and Means Committee, which also is involved in the investigation, tweeted that Democrats "have a simple message for the American people: You don't matter.

"Democrats are only creating a constitutional crisis for pure political gain."

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/republicans-impeachment-rush-to-judgment-due-process/2019/09/24/id/934131/


Politico/Morning Consult Poll: Voters Oppose Trump Impeachment Effort

Only 36% of voters believe Congress should begin impeachment proceedings against President Donald Trump, a new Politico/Morning Consult poll reveals.

Forty-nine percent say Congress should not begin impeachment proceedings. Fifteen percent had no opinion.

A poll taken a week earlier had shown 37% favoring the start of impeachment proceedings and 50% against it.

The latest poll was conducted Sept. 20-22 — before House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's announcement on Tuesday that Democrats will pursue an impeachment inquiry.

Here are highlights from the new poll released on Wednesday:

5% of Republicans say Congress should begin impeachment proceedings, compared to 89% who disagree.
66% of Democrats believe Congress should open impeachment proceedings, while 17% disagree.
33% of independents say Congress should begin impeachment proceedings, compared to 45% who disagree.
23% say they have heard "a lot" about the whistleblower's complaint centering on Ukraine, 31% have heard "some," 23% had not heard much, and 23% had heard "nothing at all."
41% approve of the job Trump is doing as president, compared to 55% who disapprove.
The poll surveyed 1,994 registered voters. The margin of error is plus or minus 2 percentage points.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/trump-impeachment-poll/2019/09/25/id/934173/


And 250,000 visitors at Drudge - feel EXACTLY like I do. NOTHING HAPPENS. And even if... at worst... just words and things continue.... removal will never happen.

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[jimnyc]

Some pretty shady crap by Biden and Son back in the day...


Peter Schweizer: Biden Ukraine dealings – 7 essential facts

1. Joe Biden’s son, Hunter Biden, joined the board of Ukrainian energy company Burisma in April 2014, according to RSB bank records. Hunter Biden had little background in energy. Over a 16-month period, Burisma paid $3.1 million to a bank account associated with Hunter’s business.

2. Joe Biden led the Obama administration’s policy toward Ukraine when he served as vice president. Biden helped shape Ukraine’s energy and anti-corruption policies, issues that directly impact Burisma.

3. Burisma sought to capitalize Hunter Biden’s name and relationships. According to The New York Times, Hunter Biden helped assemble the company’s legal team, which consisted of American attorneys and consulting firms, including a former Obama Justice Department official.

4. Burisma is led by an oligarch named Mykola Zlochevsky. Zlochevsky served as ecology minister under pro-Russia former Ukrainian leader Viktor Yanukovich, leading to allegations that he used his office to benefit Burisma.

5. Burisma was under legal scrutiny. Shortly before Hunter Biden was appointed to Burisma’s board, British authorities froze $23 million of Zlochevsky’s assets as part of a corruption investigation. Ukraine opened its own probe later that year.

6. Financial records from Morgan Stanley show numerous lines of money going into the account of “Robert H. Biden.” The funds originated from oligarchs and anonymous LLCs in Ukraine, China, Kazakhstan and elsewhere.

7. In 2013, then-Vice President Biden and his son Hunter flew aboard Air Force Two to China. Ten days later, Hunter Biden’s firm scored a $1.5 billion deal with a subsidiary of the Chinese government’s Bank of China.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/peter-schweizer-biden-familys-foreign-dealings-7-essential-facts

[jimnyc]

THIS I not only agree with much of - it's what I stated would happen - that Trump would ultimately get more support as a result. Time shall tell with what facts come of all of this.

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Nancy Pelosi just made one of the most colossal blunders in modern American politics

On Tuesday evening Nancy Pelosi made one of the most colossal blunders in the modern history of American electoral politics. Rejecting the accumulated wisdom of a long and successful career in the House of Representatives, she set aside her own instincts and announced the beginning of formal impeachment proceedings against President Trump on the basis of a third-hand rumor about a phone call with the president of a Eurasian republic.

Pelosi knows this will not be popular. She knows more than that. She knows that it will be a disaster for the Democratic Party, that it will inflame the president's base and inspire even his most lukewarm supporters with a sense of outrage. She knows that in states like Michigan, upon which her party's chances in 2020 will depend, the question of impeachment does not poll well. She knows, further, that Joe Biden will not be able to spend the next 14 or so months refusing to answer questions about the activities of his son, Hunter, in Ukraine, and that increased scrutiny of the vice president's record in office will not redound to his credit. She and her fellow Democratic leaders had better hope that someone like Elizabeth Warren manages to steal the nomination away from him before this defines his candidacy the way that Hillary Clinton's emails and paid speechmaking did during and after the 2016 primaries.

Why? Because her hand has been forced. The same members of her caucus who have clamored for Trump's impeachment on the basis of his immigration policy, his non-existent collusion with Russian authorities during the last presidential election, and his ownership of various hotels have once again lighted upon high crimes and misdemeanors. While it is probably clear to some other members of the party's leadership that impeachment is a non-starter — not only because it is unpopular but because it will go nowhere in the Senate — the feeling seems to be that they have no other choice. Too many younger Democrats whose own political fortunes do not depend upon the party's national appeal, much less its control of the White House, have been allowed to control the conversation. Some of them are cynical, others merely naïve, but the takeaway is the same regardless: The hydra is eating its own heads. Pelosi should have known better than to feed it in the first place.

Where is all of this headed? In her press conference Pelosi bandied idle threats, but she knows she cannot enforce them. She also knows, surely, that she did not need to make them in the first place. Trump has made an end run around the Democrats by announcing that he will release a transcript of his phone call with Volodymyr Zelensky on Wednesday morning. If there is nothing in the text that justifies the perfervid speculation of his liberal enemies — and it is impossible to imagine his agreeing to its release if there were — it will not be possible to retreat from the opening of impeachment proceedings without embarrassment.

Rest - https://theweek.com/articles/867377

[pete311]

Jim you are clearly panicking and guzzling down the Trump disinformation campaign. It's truly pathetic you put Trump over country.

[STTAB]

Look , Hunter Biden was WELL suited to sit on the board of a Ukranian energy company making millions of rubles per year, and it's purely coincidental that his daddy happened to be VP at the time, and orange man is a fucking traitor for asking questions.

[pete311]

Republicans, unlike Dems, agree on the rule of law. So they will demand to see transcripts, as do I. It will prove Trump did nothing wrong. If not...


No Jim, not the WH provided transcripts. The original unaltered whistleblower complaint.

[pete311]

Look , Hunter Biden was WELL suited to sit on the board of a Ukranian energy company making millions of rubles per year, and it's purely coincidental that his daddy happened to be VP at the time, and orange man is a fucking traitor for asking questions.

I thought you were smart. You know the difference between a political opponent and a shitty prosecutor not doing his job. The ukraine press has already debunked this bogus story. There was no crime.

[CSM]

Jim you are clearly panicking and guzzling down the Trump disinformation campaign. It's truly pathetic you put Trump over country.

Thanks. I needed the laugh this morning. Someone is guzzling something but it isn't Jim!

[jimnyc]

Jim you are clearly panicking and guzzling down the Trump disinformation campaign. It's truly pathetic you put Trump over country.

Yup, all you have are insults when facts and facts and more facts come out, that supports ANYTHING you disagree with - OR anything negative about the left - and that's when you disappear.

I put country over everything and made it clear what I support and who I would instantly drop if proven to have broken such laws. So your lame name calling and accusations fall completely flat. ESPECIALLY as you absolve 100% of anything from the left, as you try to play gotcha games with everything and anything Trump - and fail like a thousand times in a row. You DO NOT LEARN and then you come back with name calling - a sure sign of a sore LOSER.

But keep bringing us the Comedy Gold. You are a very small window into how the left folks are and how they operate. I LOVE seeing you here, as it reminds me of the lefts beliefs and how they do in fact operate, and how they make me smile with the stupidity. Sure, I can go to their websites, or others to read about their failures. But YOU, you bring it right here FOR me. And YES, you put your BS in writing, and then you AND the left FAIL, and then as it sits here in writing, and we laugh at you each and every single time - and then you add in with the comedy by finding excuse after excuse as to why you all fail, why you fail. :)

[jimnyc]

Thanks. I needed the laugh this morning. Someone is guzzling something but it isn't Jim!

I just don't get them sometimes. 100% failure in their faces, and they run with it anyway. Known harm to others on their side by following through, and they run with it anyway.

I'll be curious to see Biden get a word in about anything at all other than this news while campaigning. And if any of it at all gets properly investigated, he's toast in the election. America doesn't want to see impeachment crap unless it's 100% proven true facts.... and when it comes out that it's political, and the parties involved, and who is supporting them - it'll come down to the continuation of the same 'ol same 'ol - helping Trump just as I said it would.

Let them all guzzle, let them all claim it's me, I'm Aok with that, knowing that the winning will only continue, and until 2024!!

[pete311]

I just don't get them sometimes. 100% failure in their faces, and they run with it anyway. Known harm to others on their side by following through, and they run with it anyway.

I'll be curious to see Biden get a word in about anything at all other than this news while campaigning. And if any of it at all gets properly investigated, he's toast in the election. America doesn't want to see impeachment crap unless it's 100% proven true facts.... and when it comes out that it's political, and the parties involved, and who is supporting them - it'll come down to the continuation of the same 'ol same 'ol - helping Trump just as I said it would.

Let them all guzzle, let them all claim it's me, I'm Aok with that, knowing that the winning will only continue, and until 2024!!

It was already investigated by Ukraine and they found nothing. It's a non story.

[jimnyc]

Sure Petey, keep repeating. And the same with Trump, as Ukraine stated about his converation - no quid pro quo. All good. 'Cept only one side is going to look like idiots for shooting for impeachment over it. The other transcripts will only show support as to why Trump tried to further investigate.

[STTAB]

No Jim, not the WH provided transcripts. The original unaltered whistleblower complaint.


LULZ what do you think that is going to tell you that the transcript of the call won't?

This is why I believe Trump needs to just start telling you dumb fucks to fuck off, no matter what he provides, no matter how transparent he is, it's never enough.

[STTAB]

https://www.axios.com/senate-whistleblower-complaint-ukraine-38249a7e-83e9-4467-944b-8496df3157de.html

Pelosi also just announced an official impeachment inquiry.

More dishonesty from Pete. Pelosi did no such thing. As per the actual RULES of the House an OFFICIAL impeachment inquiry can NOT begin without a House floor vote saying yes open the inquiry.

Why do you lie Pete? And especially on stuff that is so easily disproven. Pelosi pulled a head fake yesterday , nothing more. There is no "official impeachment inquiry" as of right now.

Though we know Democrats only care about the rules when they can use them to bash anyone who gets in their way.

[pete311]

LULZ what do you think that is going to tell you that the transcript of the call won't?

This is why I believe Trump needs to just start telling you dumb fucks to fuck off, no matter what he provides, no matter how transparent he is, it's never enough.

I thought you had intel experience... A transcript from the WH can't be trusted and in any case does not contain all the information a whistleblower complaint contains. You are assuming the phone call is all that was in the complaint. It is not and this has been confirmed by the IG.

In fact within the past 10min the WH has released a memorandum transcript of the call. It won't even release the unaltered transcript. That is why we need transparency.

[pete311]

More dishonesty from Pete. Pelosi did no such thing. As per the actual RULES of the House an OFFICIAL impeachment inquiry can NOT begin without a House floor vote saying yes open the inquiry.

Why do you lie Pete? And especially on stuff that is so easily disproven. Pelosi pulled a head fake yesterday , nothing more. There is no "official impeachment inquiry" as of right now.

Though we know Democrats only care about the rules when they can use them to bash anyone who gets in their way.

Semantics

"After months of resisting an impeachment investigation, Mrs. Pelosi said at the end of a day of meetings with House Democrats that she was directing six House committees already investigating Mr. Trump to continue their probes “under that umbrella of impeachment inquiry.”"
https://www.wsj.com/articles/democrats-face-critical-day-on-pursuing-impeachment-11569336620

[STTAB]

I thought you had intel experience... A transcript from the WH can't be trusted and in any case does not contain all the information a whistleblower complaint contains. You are assuming the phone call is all that was in the complaint. It is not and this has been confirmed by the IG.

In fact within the past 10min the WH has released a memorandum transcript of the call. It won't even release the unaltered transcript. That is why we need transparency.


As I just said, it's never enough with you idiots. First you wanted the transcript, then you want the complaint, then if you get that, youll want the tattle tale to testify before Congress, then when that blows up in your face, you'll want transcripts of every call Trump has made with the President of Ukraine, then when that blows up in your faces you will want every transcript of EVERY call Trump has ever made as President, then when that blows up in your face........

It's always "we just need that one more piece of evidence to prove orange man did something wrong"

I'd tell you to fuck if I were Trump.

You're pathetic Pete.

[STTAB]

Semantics

"After months of resisting an impeachment investigation, Mrs. Pelosi said at the end of a day of meetings with House Democrats that she was directing six House committees already investigating Mr. Trump to continue their probes “under that umbrella of impeachment inquiry.”"
https://www.wsj.com/articles/democrats-face-critical-day-on-pursuing-impeachment-11569336620

It's not semantics you fucking idiot. The House rules CLEARLY state that the House must VOTE to open an impeachment inquiry. Now I suppose the various committees can investigate all they want , but that's not an "official impeachment inquiry" as you dishonestly claimed.

Why do you lie Pete? And why when caught , especially on something so stupid and trivial, can't you just say "oh yeah okay I misspoke, it's not really an official impeachment inquiry, Dems are playing games" and you have the audacity to call Trump a liar? You piece of shit.

[pete311]

As I just said, it's never enough with you idiots. First you wanted the transcript, then you want the complaint, then if you get that, youll want the tattle tale to testify before Congress, then when that blows up in your face, you'll want transcripts of every call Trump has made with the President of Ukraine, then when that blows up in your faces you will want every transcript of EVERY call Trump has ever made as President, then when that blows up in your face........

It's always "we just need that one more piece of evidence to prove orange man did something wrong"

I'd tell you to fuck if I were Trump.

You're pathetic Pete.

No, we've always demanded the full complaint AS REQUIRED BY LAW dumbass. You love applying the law only when it suits you.

[pete311]

It's not semantics you fucking idiot. The House rules CLEARLY state that the House must VOTE to open an impeachment inquiry. Now I suppose the various committees can investigate all they want , but that's not an "official impeachment inquiry" as you dishonestly claimed.

Why do you lie Pete? And why when caught , especially on something so stupid and trivial, can't you just say "oh yeah okay I misspoke, it's not really an official impeachment inquiry, Dems are playing games" and you have the audacity to call Trump a liar? You piece of shit.

cool, I'll drop my "official" part of the phrase. happy?

[jimnyc]

Biden's name mentioned once. It was Ukraine who brought Giuliani into the conversation. No quid pro quo. A big fat nothing.

Yeah, yeah, I know, needs investigation, just a memo, blah blah blah. Cool with me, DO IT and keep it up until election day, DON'T LET UP whatever you do!

And the nothingburger will continue on, and continue on - and then get laughed at by the senate, and at best get attention from the Dems, and we end up where we are now, and where we were when the Russian BS came back with nothing. Let the Dems and/or supporters scream to the skies, let them think that THIS is finally the time! Not happening. :)

[SassyLady]

When did Biden ask a foreign power to investigate a political opponent?

Investigating opponent is not treason ... or all those investigations against Trump would be treasonous.

However, asking foreign power to frame opponent seems to me to be treasonous. Like the Steele Dossier perhaps.

[STTAB]

So now Dems are trying to frame this as a campaign finance law violation. LOL asking a country to investigate potential criminal activity is now a campaign finance violation.

It's too bad that we can't rely on voters to just say "this is enough" and vote Democrats out en masse . Nope, Democrats know their voter base is either stupid, dishonest, or both.

There will be NO penalty for them behaving like this.

[STTAB]

cool, I'll drop my "official" part of the phrase. happy?


I'm happy that you finally admitted to lying, yes.

[pete311]

Pete, you have seen the whistleblower report? If so, I am sure someone in the FBI is going to want to talk to you. Else, you lie.

The IG has already confirmed the report is not based solely on the call. Please do keep up.

[STTAB]

The IG has already confirmed the report is not based solely on the call. Please do keep up.


Yes true, it is also based on unicorn farts.

Petey you are such a dishonest fuck. If you could even one time just say "come on Democrats, this isn't right" LOL I mean NO ONE is committing a crime every time they do anything, least of all Donald Trump.

What makes you even more pathetic is that you never not ever not one time will condemn a Democrat, for ANYTHING.

You are a joke Pete.

[pete311]

Acting DNI threatening to resign if WH blocks his ability to testify freely tomorrow.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/acting-director-of-national-intelligence-threatened-to-resign-if-he-couldnt-speak-freely-before-congress/2019/09/25/b1deb71e-dfbf-11e9-be96-6adb81821e90_story.html

nothing to see here

[STTAB]

Acting DNI threatening to resign if WH blocks his ability to testify freely tomorrow.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/acting-director-of-national-intelligence-threatened-to-resign-if-he-couldnt-speak-freely-before-congress/2019/09/25/b1deb71e-dfbf-11e9-be96-6adb81821e90_story.html

nothing to see here


LULZ

An anonymous source reports that McGuire has told the WH he would resign IF they tried to block him from testifying to Congress

First of all, do you EVER say "man this is another anonymous source, we don't believe anonymous sources anymore?

Second of all, the anonymous source doesn't even say that the WH did try to prevent him from or testifying, or would try to prevent him from doing so. It merely says IF they do.

Pete, in the past I've assumed you were smart , but dishonest. But after the last few days I can only conclude that you are not only dishonest, you are also stupid.

[STTAB]

No, we've always demanded the full complaint AS REQUIRED BY LAW dumbass. You love applying the law only when it suits you.


By the way, the LAW allows the Justice Department to determine what the law actually says, not some idiot named Pete from the internet.

This guy wasn't even a whistleblower anyway, just a tattle tale. A garden variety snitch.

[icansayit]

I Just got word via Email from an ANONYMOUS source, that said YOU...PETEY, would promise to pay all of my bills, and life insurance for the rest of my life...UNDER ONE CONDITION.

That condition is...according to that Anonymous source...That I Believe, and Obey everything You say, or Write from now on.
IS THAT SOURCE TELLING THE TRUTH....BASED ON FACT, OR HEARSAY???

[Russ]

Democrats Wrote to Ukraine in May 2018, Demanding It Investigate Trump

Democrats wrote to the Ukrainian government in May 2018 urging it to continue investigations into President Donald Trump’s alleged collusion with Russia in the 2016 presidential campaign

Could it be more ironic? The beyond-the-pale ability of Dems to clutch their chests with one hand and stammer the word "Impeach" every time Trump does something that they just themselves did is unbelievable and pathetic at the same time.

Dems is soooo stoooopid.....

[Russ]

I'm starting to notice a pattern:

2016
1. An anonymous source accuses Trump of inappropriately working with a foreign government
2. The anonymous source 'leaks' their accusation to the media
3. Disreputable and sleazy parts of the media (eg CNN, WaPO, NYT) run with the story and insist the Trump has committed a crime, although they don't cite exactly what law has been broken
4. Dems in Congress start howling about "impeach!"
5. Adam Schiff does ad nauseum interviews where he claims to have special knowledge that Trump is guilty of some monumental crime and everyone will be shocked when they know what he secretly knows
6. The initial report comes out, and it surprising shows no evidence against Trump
7. Dems, including Adam Schiff, stammer and stutter and change their chant toward "Show up the full report - that will clear things up!"
8. The full report comes out, and it surprising shows no evidence against Trump
9. Dems, including Adam Schiff, stammer and stutter and change their chant toward "Mueller must testify!"
10. Mueller testifies, and it surprising shows no evidence against Trump
11. Dems, including Adam Schiff, stammer and stutter and then break into childish sobs.

2019
1. An anonymous source accuses Trump of inappropriately working with a foreign government
2. The anonymous source 'leaks' their accusation to the media
3. Disreputable and sleazy parts of the media (eg CNN, WaPO, NYT) run with the story and insist the Trump has committed a crime, although they don't cite exactly what law has been broken
4. Dems in Congress start howling about "impeach!"
5. Adam Schiff does ad nauseum interviews where he claims to have special knowledge that Trump is guilty of some monumental crime and everyone will be shocked when they know what he secretly knows
6. The initial report (transcript) comes out, and it surprising shows no evidence against Trump
7. Dems, including Adam Schiff, stammer and stutter and change their chant toward "Show up the whistleblower's letter - that will clear things up!"
*** still to come...***
8. The whistleblower's letter comes out, and it surprising shows no evidence against Trump
9. Dems, including Adam Schiff, stammer and stutter and change their chant toward "the whistleblower must testify!"
10. The whistleblower turns out to have no knowledge of the actual phone call and also turns out to be a member of Kamala Harris's staff, but testifies anyway, and it surprising shows no evidence against Trump
11. Dems, including Adam Schiff, stammer and stutter and then break into childish sobs.

[Elessar]

These idiots are scraping the bottom of the barrel of their own vile.

None can be trusted to behave like adults and move on.

Very Pathetic!

[LongTermGuy]

These idiots are scraping the bottom of the barrel of their own vile.

None can be trusted to behave like adults and move on.

Very Pathetic!

"They"...having Nothing left....they screwed themselves with their own stupidity..deceit...lies and Ignorance...In the end...They will be yelling and howling at the sky again."


"Oh Yeah....These leftist are too easy" and the Never Trumpers are so...soooo disappointed!!!!"

https://media.giphy.com/media/l2JhGYxcjMcKqiaHu/giphy.gif

[Elessar]

I thought you had intel experience... A transcript from the WH can't be trusted and in any case does not contain all the information a whistleblower complaint contains. You are assuming the phone call is all that was in the complaint. It is not and this has been confirmed by the IG.

In fact within the past 10min the WH has released a memorandum transcript of the call. It won't even release the unaltered transcript. That is why we need transparency.

And what transparency did your hero Obama offer? Not a damn thing promised in his opening address:

"Most transparent administration in this nation's history" which turned out to be a lie.

Grow up pete311, you are a loser and whiner.

[SassyLady]

Acting DNI threatening to resign if WH blocks his ability to testify freely tomorrow.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/acting-director-of-national-intelligence-threatened-to-resign-if-he-couldnt-speak-freely-before-congress/2019/09/25/b1deb71e-dfbf-11e9-be96-6adb81821e90_story.html

nothing to see here

Those damn anonymous sources just cant be trusted ... especially those at Washington Post



Acting intelligence director Joseph Maguire denies he threatened to resign if White House stopped him from testifyingPUBLISHED WED, SEP 25 2019 4:07 PM EDTUPDATED 2 HOURS AGO


Jacob Pramuk (https://www.cnbc.com/jacob-pramuk/)@JACOBPRAMUK (https://twitter.com/@jacobpramuk)





































KEY POINTS


Acting Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire denies he threatened to step down if he was not allowed to testify freely before Congress on Thursday.










https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/25/acting-dni-joseph-maguire-denies-report-he-threatened-to-resign.html

[Kathianne]

Those damn anonymous sources just cant be trusted ... especially those at Washington Post

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/25/acting-dni-joseph-maguire-denies-report-he-threatened-to-resign.html


:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:

[STTAB]

Will Petey be man enough to come back today and admit that he was fooled again, that he shouldn't have trusted an anonymous source who claimed that the DNI threatened to resign? Survey says no.

[STTAB]

Petey , we all saw you online at least an hour ago and you still show as online. You coward, can't just come in the thread and say "I got it wrong?"

[Kathianne]

Adam Schiff is the late Richard Nixon's doppleganger.

I tend not to hear what he's saying, I just keep looking and thinking, 'you are going to have some jowls when you get older. ' :shocked:

[STTAB]

Adam Schiff is the late Richard Nixon's doppleganger.

I tend not to hear what he's saying, I just keep looking and thinking, 'you are going to have some jowls when you get older. ' :shocked:


You wanna see some jowls , go look at videos of Jerry Nadler from the late 90s.

[jimnyc]

I see the gotcha comedy gold continued - and failed again for the 9,000th time! Pete was right though, with the anonymous sources and the actual source laughing at it - there WAS nothing to see here! :laugh2:

And now, with things officialy seen by intelligence members... Dems too, but not very intelligent, claim it's a smoking gun - while folks not trying to play games just laugh at it and call it a nothingburger - again. Gonna go nowhere - other than the Dems playing games and hoping that the negativity of another investigation will harm Trump in 2020. I think it does the opposite.

Now, I DO fully expect the comedy to continue, especially from Pete believing every anonymous source out there. But reality will be what wins, just like 2016.

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BREAKING: Whistleblower Complaint Has Been Released and It's Another Nothingburger

The House Intelligence Committee on Thursday released the declassified whistleblower complaint on President Trump's phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

Utah Republican Rep. Chris Stewart said he was initially "anxious" before reading it, but is now is "much more confident than I was this morning that this is going to go nowhere. ... there are just no surprises there." He added, "The entirety of it is focused on this one thing, and that's the transcript of one phone call, the transcript that was released [Wednesday] morning."

According to the anonymous whistleblower, "I was not a direct witness to most of these events described," but instead based the complaint on "various facts" he or she was informed of by "more than half a dozen officials." The whistleblower claims to have learned from "multiple U.S. officials" that "senior White House officials had intervened to 'lock down' all records of the phone call."

Here's another interesting part:


During this same timeframe, multiple U.S. officials told me that the Ukrainian leadership was led to believe that a meeting or phone call between the President and President Zelenskyy would depend on whether Zelenskyy showed willingness to "play ball" on the issues that had been publicly aired by Mr. Lutsenko and Mr. Giuliani.

This sounds eerily similar to the fake news that ABC reported that discussing the Biden probe was a precondition of the two leaders having the phone call.

Overall, the complaint centers around the July 25th phone call, and uses anonymous sources and media reports to substantiate the complaint.

President Trump reacted to the release on Twitter:


“Is their a case for impeachment? Absolutely not!” There is no high crimes or misdemeanors, no treason, no extortion, no treason.” RD Robert Ray, respected

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 26, 2019

Fred Fleitz, former NSC Chief of Staff, CIA analyst and House Intelligence Committee staff member, read and reacted to the complaint on Twitter. "As a former CIA analyst and former NSC official who edited transcripts of POTUS phone calls with foreign leaders, here are my thoughts on the whistleblower complaint which was just released... This is not an intelligence matter. It is a policy matter and a complaint about differences over policy. Presidential phone calls are not an intelligence concern. The fact that IC officers transcribe these calls does not give the IC IG jusrisdiction [sic] over these calls."

Rest - https://pjmedia.com/trending/breaking-whistleblower-report-has-been-released/

[jimnyc]

This is the kind of news that Pete and many others have been eating up and screaming about and running with. Facts be damned.

How does such a major and reputable news agency report something that is SO off, no fact checking, just guessing and/or believing anything they wish to be true? :rolleyes:

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Fake News: ABC News Claims That Biden Probe Was a Precondition for Trump-Zelenksy Call

Late Wednesday evening, ABC News reported that Serhiy Leshchenko, an "advisor" to Ukrainian President Zelensky, claimed that discussing the Biden case was a precondition of him having communications with President Trump. "This issue was raised many times. I know that Ukrainian officials understood." According to ABC News, "The Trump administration’s alleged insistence that the two leaders discuss a prospective investigation into Biden, one of the president’s political opponents, casts his July 25 conversation with Zelenskiy in a new light."

Except it probably doesn't. It turns out that Serhiy Leshchenko advised Zelensky's transition team in April, but is no longer an advisor. ABC News added the following correction to their story:


CORRECTION: An earlier version of this article incorrectly described Serhiy Leshchenko as a current advisor to Ukraine’s president Volodymyr Zelenskiy. Leshchenko advised Zelenskiy’s transition team following his election in April but has since been distanced by the administration. He is no longer advising Zelenskiy.

The call at issue here took place in July, and Leshchenko had stopped advising Zelensky in the spring. The story further fell apart when Christopher Miller, a correspondent for Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, reported that Leshchenko himself confirmed to him that he did not tell ABC News that discussing a Biden probe was a precondition for the call:


Setting record straight: @Leshchenkos confirmed to me what those of us in Kyiv already knew—he is NOT currently an advisor to Ukraine's Zelenskiy & wasn't at time of July 25 call. He said he DID NOT tell ABC insistence for leaders to discuss Biden probe was precondition for call. https://t.co/fNh5sMYj9i

— Christopher Miller (@ChristopherJM) September 26, 2019

How exactly does a major media outlet get a story so consequential so wrong? Democrats are pushing forward with impeachment over this call, and ABC News is reporting an allegedly incriminatory allegation that, based on what we know now, is completely bogus. How many on the left will still believe it to be true?

https://pjmedia.com/trending/fake-news-abc-news-claim-that-biden-probe-was-a-precondition-for-trump-zelenksy-call/

[pete311]

Petey , we all saw you online at least an hour ago and you still show as online. You coward, can't just come in the thread and say "I got it wrong?"

Im at the dog park at the moment. The story was wrong.

[jimnyc]

Im at the dog park at the moment. The story was wrong.


I'm glad of your acknowledgement. But can you say:

"Perhaps I shouldn't rush to judgement with every story that pops out using anonymous sources

[jimnyc]

I got an email from Trump asking to donate $45 to his official fighting of this impeachment. I donated $100. Tired of this crap, and I'm not alone apparently.

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Impeachment Threat Leads to Big One-Day Fundraising Haul for Trump and GOP

As plans in their never-ending quest to derail President Trump and get him out of office go, Tuesday's impeachment fever probably isn't bearing the fruit that Democrats hoped for. The early evidence indicates that the threat may have done more to energize the Republican base than anyone else.

In Wednesday's Morning Briefing I noted that the president was treating the impeachment circus as a campaign opportunity, and that seems to have gone very well for Team Trump:


In the 24 hours since news of Nancy Pelosi’s impeachment announcement, @realDonaldTrump’s campaign & @GOP have BLOWN OUT fundraising!

?$5 Million combined in 24 hrs
?Donors in all 50 states

Huge groundswell of support leading to Trump landslide in 2020!

— Brad Parscale (@parscale) September 25, 2019

Even in the modern era of big-money politics, that is a substantial haul all-around for the president and the party. The National Republican Congressional Committee reports that its effort to retake the House was buoyed by an increase of more than six hundred percent in online fundraising:


And the NRCC's online fundraising was up 608% yesterday. Thank you, @SpeakerPelosi and de facto Speaker @AOC! https://t.co/FMvhrQbsbq

— NRCC (@NRCC) September 25, 2019

Rest - https://pjmedia.com/trending/impeachment-threat-leads-to-big-1-day-fundraising-haul-for-trump-and-gop/


Trump Campaign Has Huge Influx of Donations After Pelosi's Impeachment Announcement

If you need more evidence that impeachment is bad news for the Democrats, look no further than Trump's fundraising numbers. After Nancy Pelosi announced a formal impeachment inquiry of President Trump, his campaign raised a million dollars in just three hours. Over 24 hours, the campaign raised $5 million, according to Trump campaign manager Brad Parscale.

In the 24 hours since news of Nancy Pelosi’s impeachment announcement, @realDonaldTrump’s campaign & @GOP have BLOWN OUT fundraising!

?$5 Million combined in 24 hrs
?Donors in all 50 states

Huge groundswell of support leading to Trump landslide in 2020!

— Brad Parscale (@parscale) September 25, 2019

On Tuesday evening, Nancy Pelosi announced a formal impeachment investigation over Trump's phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky where Democrats believed there was an illegal quid pro quo. The transcript of the phone call revealed there was no quid pro quo, no threat of withholding aid, and the DOJ, which investigated the call in August, determined there was nothing illegal in the call.

Yahoo Finance reports that "Trump has had incredible fundraising success, currently holding $56.7 million cash on hand, according to the latest FEC filings. So far, the president has raised more than $120 million for the 2020 election, crushing Democratic candidates in fundraising totals. Democratic presidential candidate Senator Bernie Sanders, who has achieved the most fundraising success, has pulled in roughly $46.5 million so far."

Rest - https://pjmedia.com/trending/trump-campaign-has-huge-influx-of-donations-after-pelosis-impeachment-announcement/

[jimnyc]

I watched all kinds of reports videos last night and seeing how they edited things to their liking, once again nevermind the facts. :rolleyes:

Some are stating some of the stuff is "code" and making an entirely different story out of things. I can't believe ANYONE in America still follows these programs with the amount of lies they consistently get busted on.

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Pro-Impeachment Liberal Media Deceptively Twists Trump-Zelensky Transcript

The Democrats and the media have been scrambling to spin the nothing-burger that is the transcript between Trump's call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky as a negative for Trump. If it really was so bad, perhaps they can explain why the media has falsely implied that Trump when asked for a favor that it was about Biden, and not about investigating 2016 election interference.

Here are CNN and MSNBC deliberately misrepresenting the transcript:


MSNBC's @KatyTurNBC did it too.

Absolutely despicable. pic.twitter.com/EFlCO9lz7m

— Steve Guest (@SteveGuest) September 25, 2019

Wolf Blitzer and Jim Acosta also misrepresenting the favor again on CNN following Trump's press conference Wednesday afternoon:

Heres' the transcript from Newsbusters:


BLITZER: Jim Acosta is there at the news conference. Jim, you’re there in New York. And let's not forget, in the -- this summary that was released by the White House, the President specifically quoted as saying to the Ukrainian president, “I would like you to do us a favor” and then goes into an investigation into the Bidens and the Democrats.
JIM ACOSTA: That is right, Wolf. And the President never really asked -- or answered the question. I tried to ask the question as he was walking out of the room, what did he mean by “could you do us a favor.” He never really explained what he was talking about with respect to that question.

NPR also deceptively edited the transcript in a story:


The highlighted ellipsis in this NPR story represents 526 words https://t.co/8nPQT2gfuA pic.twitter.com/PX2f1Opz16

— Alex Griswold (@HashtagGriswold) September 25, 2019

Here's what Trump really asked a favor about, per the transcript:


I would like you to do us a favor, though, because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike… I guess you have one of your wealthy people… the server, they say Ukraine has it. There are a lot of things that went on the whole situation. I think you’re surrounding yourself with some of the same people. I would like to have the Attorney General call you and your people and I would like you to get to the bottom of it. As you said yesterday, that whole nonsense ended with a very poor performance by a man named Robert Mueller, an incompetent performance, but they say a lot of it started with Ukraine. Whatever you can do, it’s very important that you do it if that’s possible.

To omit this from their reporting wasn't a simple oversight, it was deliberate. Here's an image of the transcript highlighting where Trump asks for a favor, and where Biden actually comes up:

https://static.pjmedia.com/trending/user-content/51/files/2019/09/favorbiden-666x1024.jpg

That's a lot of content being ignored in order to connect the "favor" with the suggestion to look into the Biden matter.

So, one can't help asking, if the transcript on its own was so damning, why is the media deliberately misrepresenting what it says?

https://pjmedia.com/trending/liberal-media-deceptively-misrepresents-trump-zelensky-transcript-on-air/

[jimnyc]

And more....

Blitzer and Acosta LIE About the ‘Favor’ Trump Asked of Ukrainian President

Moments after President Trump’s Wednesday press conference before a hostile press itching for his impeachment, CNN’s The Situation Room host Wolf Blitzer and chief White House correspondent Jim Acosta preyed on the fact that most people had not read the transcript of the phone call between Trump and the president of Ukraine and blatantly lied about the “favor” Trump asked for.

After getting some ridiculous analysis from their left-wing panel of journalists, Blitzer wanted to go to Acosta, who was on location at the Intercontinental Hotel. “And let's not forget, in the -- this summary that was released by the White House, the President specifically quoted as saying to the Ukrainian president, ‘I would like you to do us a favor’ and then goes into an investigation into the Bidens and the Democrats,” he lied.

Instead of telling the truth, Acosta backed up his colleague’s falsehood: “That is right, Wolf. And the President never really asked -- or answered the question. I tried to ask the question as he was walking out of the room, what did he mean by ‘could you do us a favor.’ He never really explained what he was talking about with respect to that question.”

In reality, any honest person who actually read the transcript knew the “favor” had nothing to with Biden:

Rest - https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/nicholas-fondacaro/2019/09/25/blitzer-and-acosta-lie-about-favor-trump-asked-ukraine


ABC, NBC Hide IG Warning of the Whistleblower’s Anti-Trump ‘Political Bias’

While the liberal media was treating the newly released transcript of President Trump’s phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky as the smoking gun they needed to impeach him, the CBS Evening News flashed a shred of honesty on Wednesday and reported that the Justice Department was warning lawmakers of the whistleblower’s anti-Trump “political bias.” Although, CBS’s reporting did have their own political bias problems.

It was a fact completely omitted from the cascade of Trump impeachment coverage found on ABC’s World News Tonight and NBC Nightly News. “The Dependent of Justice warned the whistleblower's information was ‘secondhand’ and that there are indications, quote, ‘of an arguable political bias on the part of the complainant,’” reported CBS chief congressional correspondent Nancy Cordes.

But her report could have used some more nuance. According to an exclusive Fox News report from Tuesday night, it wasn’t just the DOJ who found that problem with the Whistleblower, but it was their internal watchdog, inspector general’s office:


A senior Trump administration official told Fox News late Tuesday that the administration will release a document showing the intelligence community inspector general found the whistleblower who leveled an explosive accusation against President Trump concerning his talks with Ukraine had indications of “political bias” in favor of “a rival candidate” of the president.

Rest - https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/nicholas-fondacaro/2019/09/25/abc-nbc-hide-ig-warning-whistleblowers-anti-trump-political

[jimnyc]

Great opening of truth facts and eye openers by Nunes.

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Devin Nunes Opening Statement on Whistleblower Report – “Hearsay Evidence” by Biased Operative – A Gross Spectacle (FULL STATEMENT)

Here is the opening statement by ranking member Rep. Devin Nunes at the House Intelligence Committee Hearing.

Nunes Opening Statement for Whistleblower Disclosure Hearing
September 26, 2019

I want to congratulate the Democrats on the rollout of their latest information warfare operation against the President, and their extraordinary ability once again to enlist the mainstream media in their campaign.


This operation began with media reports—from the prime instigators of the Russian collusion hoax—that a whistleblower is claiming President Trump made a nefarious “promise” to a foreign leader. The released transcript of the call has already debunked that central assertion, but that didn’t matter. The Democrats simply moved the goalposts and began claiming that there doesn’t need to be a quid pro quo for this conversation to serve as the basis for impeaching the president.

Speaker Pelosi went even further when asked earlier if she’d put the brakes on impeachment if the transcript turned out to be benign. She responded, “We have many other candidates for impeachable offenses.” So there you go—if their whistleblower operation doesn’t work out, the Democrats and their media assets can always drum up something else.

And what other information has come to light since the original false report of a “promise” being made? We’ve learned the following:


The complaint relied on hearsay evidence provided by the whistleblower.
The Inspector General did not know the contents of the phone call at issue.
The Inspector General found that the whistleblower displayed “arguable political bias” against Trump.
The Department of Justice investigated the complaint and determined no action was warranted.



The Ukrainian President denies being pressured by President Trump.
So, once again, this supposed scandal ends up being nothing like what we were told. And once again, the Democrats, their media mouthpieces, and a cabal of leakers are ginning up a fake story, with no regard to the monumental damage they’re causing to our public institutions and to trust in government, and without acknowledging all the false stories they propagated in the past, including countless allegations that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia to hack the 2016 election. We’re supposed to forget about all those stories but believe this one. In short, what we have with this storyline is another Steele dossier.


I’ll note here that, in the Democrats’ mania to overturn the 2016 elections, everything they touch gets hopelessly politicized. With the Russia hoax it was our intelligence agencies, which were turned into a political weapon to attack the president. And today, the whistleblower process is the casualty. Until about a week ago, the need to protect that process was a primary bipartisan concern of this committee. But if the Democrats were really concerned with defending that process, they would have pursued this matter with quiet and sober inquiries, as we always do for whistleblowers.

But that would’ve been useless for them. They don’t want answers, they want a public spectacle. And so we’ve been treated to an unending parade of press releases, press conferences, and fake news stories.

This hearing itself is another example—whistleblower inquiries should not be held in public at all, as our Senate counterparts, both Democrats and Republicans, obviously understand—their hearing with Mr. Maguire is behind closed doors. But again, that only makes sense when your goal is to get information, not to create a media frenzy.

The current hysteria has something else in common with the Russia hoax. Back then, they accused the Trump campaign of colluding with Russians when the Democrats themselves were colluding with Russians in preparing the Steele dossier. Today, they accuse the president of pressuring Ukrainians to take actions that would help himself or hurt his political opponents. And yet, there are numerous examples of Democrats doing the exact same thing. For example:


Joe Biden bragged that he extorted the Ukrainians into firing a prosecutor, who happened to be investigating Biden’s own son.
Three Democrat senators wrote a letter pressuring the Ukrainian general prosecutor to reopen investigations it reportedly froze on former Trump campaign officials.
Another Democratic senator went to Ukraine and pressured the Ukrainian President not to investigate corruption allegations involving Biden’s son.
According to Ukrainian officials, Democratic National Committee contractor Alexandra Chalupa tried to get Ukrainian officials to provide dirt on Trump associates and tried to get the former Ukrainian President to comment publicly on their alleged ties to Russia.
Ukrainian official Serhiy Leshchenko was a source for Nellie Ohr, wife of Department of Justice official Bruce Ohr, as she worked on the anti-Trump operation conducted by Fusion GPS and funded by the Democrats.
And of course, Democrats on this very committee negotiated with people they thought were Ukrainians in order to obtain nude pictures of Trump.
As you see, it’s a reliable rule of thumb in these information operations that whatever the Democrats accuse you of doing, they’re doing themselves.



People can reasonably ask why the Democrats are so determined to impeach this president when in just a year they’ll have a chance to vote him out of office. In fact, one Democratic congressman—one of the first to call for Trump’s impeachment—gave us the answer when he said, “I’m concerned that if we don’t impeach the president, he will get reelected.”

Yes, winning elections is hard, and when you compete you have no guarantee you’ll win. But the American people should have a say in all this, and they made their voices heard in the election. This latest gambit by the Democrats to overturn the people’s mandate is unhinged and dangerous.

They should end this entire dishonest, grotesque spectacle and get back to solving problems, which is what every member of this committee was sent here to do. Judging by today’s charade, however, the chances of that happening anytime soon are zero to none.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/09/epic-devin-nunes-opening-statement-on-whistleblower-report-hearsay-evidence-by-biased-operative-against-trump-full-statement/

[jimnyc]

So not only will they lie and distort - but now they will have to protect themselves. Nothing really bad from Trump, I see nothing offered and no threats at all. That's why the media is trying to change it up already. Told ya, gonna backfire. Biden will be harmed. I read somewhere that Biden may have even been their target as well. The Trump BS is just that, BS. And I can only hope that this allows Barr and Durham and others to get even MORE info on the scum involved in the Russian hoax BS.

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THE TIDE TURNS: Democrats FREAK OUT After Transcript Reveals POTUS Trump Is on Crowdstrike Trail — He’s Going After Origins of Russia Hoax!

On Wednesday the Trump Administration released the White House transcript of President Trump’s call with President Zelensky of Ukraine.

In the transcript released today President Zelensky brought up Rudy Giuliani and his investigations with President Trump.

It was Zelensky who brought up the Biden investigation and NOT PRESIDENT TRUMP!


President Trump then asked Zelensky to look into the 2016 election including information on Crowdstrike.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/trump-crowdstrike-ukaine.png

The President did not ask President Zelensky to investigate Joe Biden as was widely reported by the lying mainstream media.

The transcript sent shock waves through the Democrat Deep State.

The transcript revealed President Trump is going after the origins of the Trump-Russia witch hunt.

Trump is going after the Deep State — Trump said he was going to clean the swamp and he meant it.

Foreign Policy expert Tony Shaffer says this is what the left is most worried about.

Rest - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/09/the-tied-turns-democrats-freak-out-after-transcript-reveals-potus-trump-is-on-crowdstrike-trail-hes-going-after-origins-of-russia-hoax/

[jimnyc]

THIS if true will be devastating to the left, this impeachment and to the Biden campaign. And why go public if not true?

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Breaking: John Solomon Has Documents That Prove Joe Biden’s Extortion Prevented Ukrainian Officials from Indicting His Son Hunter Biden

Investigative journalist John Solomon told Sean Hannity on Wednesday night that he has over 400 pages of documents that he will reveal tomorrow that show Hunter Biden’s legal team worked with the Ukrainian prosecutors to end the investigation on the vice president’s son.

Joe Biden famously bragged on video how he had the investigator looking at his son’s Ukrainian gas deals to be fired.

Solomon says his news story is hitting tomorrow afternoon and it’s going to strongly dispute Joe Biden’s claim of why he got the Ukrainian top prosecutor fired.

Solomon will release the documents on Thursday that implicate Joe Biden in the Ukrainian scandal.

https://i.imgur.com/z5ueX7D.png

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/09/breaking-john-solomon-has-documents-that-prove-joe-bidens-extortion-prevented-ukrainian-officials-from-indicting-his-son-hunter-biden/

[Kathianne]

Adam Schiff is a nasty man.

[STTAB]

Im at the dog park at the moment. The story was wrong.


And do you know why they are CONSISTENTLY getting stories wrong Petey? It's because of people like you who gobble it up EVERY time without saying "wait a minute they are wrong every time, maybe I should ASSUME they have once again rushed to judgement here"

But you WANT every bad story told about Trump to be true, so you don't care . You'll just continue on your merry way. Every time

[STTAB]

Adam Schiff is a nasty man.


If I were Trump, I'd have pulled his security clearance a long time ago. We can't have the Chair of the House Intelligence Committee running around lying to Congress and the American people about what classified material they have seen.

[STTAB]

THIS if true will be devastating to the left, this impeachment and to the Biden campaign. And why go public if not true?

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Breaking: John Solomon Has Documents That Prove Joe Biden’s Extortion Prevented Ukrainian Officials from Indicting His Son Hunter Biden

Investigative journalist John Solomon told Sean Hannity on Wednesday night that he has over 400 pages of documents that he will reveal tomorrow that show Hunter Biden’s legal team worked with the Ukrainian prosecutors to end the investigation on the vice president’s son.

Joe Biden famously bragged on video how he had the investigator looking at his son’s Ukrainian gas deals to be fired.

Solomon says his news story is hitting tomorrow afternoon and it’s going to strongly dispute Joe Biden’s claim of why he got the Ukrainian top prosecutor fired.

Solomon will release the documents on Thursday that implicate Joe Biden in the Ukrainian scandal.

https://i.imgur.com/z5ueX7D.png

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/09/breaking-john-solomon-has-documents-that-prove-joe-bidens-extortion-prevented-ukrainian-officials-from-indicting-his-son-hunter-biden/

I 100% believe that Elizabeth Warren is behind this "whistleblower" and the entire purpose was to take Biden out.

[Kathianne]

If I were Trump, I'd have pulled his security clearance a long time ago. We can't have the Chair of the House Intelligence Committee running around lying to Congress and the American people about what classified material they have seen.

He just made up stuff in his opening. Then in closing he tried to bully the DNI to agree with impeachment, bit by bit. That's not his job, nor the DNI's job to tell the legislature what or what not to do.

Horrible.

[icansayit]

Im at the dog park at the moment. The story was wrong.


Do what you have to do, like deposit some more Adam Schiff in the grass, and let your dog PICK UP after you.

[STTAB]

He just made up stuff in his opening. Then in closing he tried to bully the DNI to agree with impeachment, bit by bit. That's not his job, nor the DNI's job to tell the legislature what or what not to do.

Horrible.

Tsk tsk, Democrats in both Houses of Congress have assured us that this isn't political, it's strictly about right and wrong LOL

A month ago or so you asked for a reason to vote for Trump. THIS is the reason. Fuck everyone who's been in Washington DC for 30 years.

[Kathianne]

Just horrible:

https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/26/adam-schiff-makes-up-his-own-transcript-of-call-between-trump-and-ukraine-president/



Adam Schiff Makes Up His Own Transcript Of Call Between Trump And Ukraine President
SEPTEMBER 26, 2019 By Tristan Justice
The chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., made up his own version of a transcript between President Donald Trump and his Ukrainian counterpart to fit the false narrative being peddled by Democrats and many in the media to frame the president for a crime that never happened.


In his opening statement at a congressional hearing featuring acting Department of National Intelligence Director Joseph Maguire, Schiff gave a fictional retelling of the conversation between the two leaders.

...

[STTAB]

Just horrible:

https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/26/adam-schiff-makes-up-his-own-transcript-of-call-between-trump-and-ukraine-president/

Adam Schiff should be put to the guillotine. I'm just going to admit it, I wish someone would assassinate him. He's a danger to our country.

[pete311]

Adam Schiff should be put to the guillotine. I'm just going to admit it, I wish someone would assassinate him. He's a danger to our country.

and then afterwards, slap some children :salute:

trump's house of cards is going down and I'm loving it

[STTAB]

and then afterwards, slap some children :salute:

trump's house of cards is going down and I'm loving it


Yeah, Democrats are lying their asses off because they know morons such as yourself don't really care and Trump is the one going down. Okay.

[Kathianne]

Yeah, Democrats are lying their asses off because they know morons such as yourself don't really care and Trump is the one going down. Okay.

I watched nearly the whole thing. I don't think there is much of anything in either the transcript nor the whistleblower that bad as far as truly impeachable. No crimes. Bad judgement, imo? Yeah. His tone in the transcript and reactions since are part of why I chose not to vote for him.

His behaviors though do not come close to the Democrats in hearings or in interviews. Deplorable.

None of it is going to matter, the chaos candidate was elected. The deplorable legislators have been determined to impeach him and they don't need no f'ing crimes.

So there will be impeachment. Conviction? Not unless there are surprises yet unseen.

From this point on there will be impeachment threatened every. time. the. president. is. not. of. same. party. as. House. Likely impeached and convicted if both houses are controlled by the opposition party.

[STTAB]

I watched nearly the whole thing. I don't think there is much of anything in either the transcript nor the whistleblower that bad as far as truly impeachable. No crimes. Bad judgement, imo? Yeah. His tone in the transcript and reactions since are part of why I chose not to vote for him.

His behaviors though do not come close to the Democrats in hearings or in interviews. Deplorable.

None of it is going to matter, the chaos candidate was elected. The deplorable legislators have been determined to impeach him and they don't need no f'ing crimes.

So there will be impeachment. Conviction? Not unless there are surprises yet unseen.

From this point on there will be impeachment threatened every. time. the. president. is. not. of. same. party. as. House. Likely impeached and convicted if both houses are controlled by the opposition party.


Yep once again the scum bag Democrats fail to even think about the future. My God eventually they will have another President in office, and it is almost a certainty that for at least 2 years of said Presidency the GOP will control the House, and OF COURSE they are going to retaliate, because the people in Washington are all a bunch of useless scum children who shouldn't even be running lemonade stands let alone our country.

This is why I have said for the last year, it's time to nip this in the fucking bud. Trump's President, get the fuck over it, and whatever crimes Dems may or may not have committed in the past. Let's move on.

BUT , when they have spent every waking moment of the last 3 years accusing Trump of being a fucking traitor, for allegedly doing the things they themselves are doing no less, I"m sorry I can't really get mad about Trump wanting to expose THEIR crimes. I just can't.

Let's look at a few fact patterns.

In the time frame when Hillary Clinton was running for President the Clinton Foundation was raking in millions of dollars from a lot of the same people who had been trying to get into see her personally when she was SOS , literally the day after she lost in 2016 the Foundation stopped receiving any such donations and eventually shut down due to lack of interest.

Gee , I wonder why these folks were giving money to her charity when she was either in a position of power, or they thought she would be

Second fact pattern.

Biden's son is a fucking worthless drug addict. in what conceivable way was he qualified to sit on the board of directors of a Ukranian energy company, especially with a compensation package that paid roughly $50K a month. I mean come on.

And if he was a valuable employee , why is that he left the board roughly the same time his dad left the White House. I don't believe in coincidences.

Oh Hunter Biden managed to get another high paying job with a Chinese firm that mysteriously also ended at about the same time that his dad left the White House. Hmmmm

Other than those two accomplishments, Hunter's claim to fame is that he received a waiver to join the Navy Reserve (actually two waivers, one for his age at the time 42, and one for a previous drug conviction) but was still discharged from the military for failing a drug test.

I mean we're talking about a piece of shit here. If his daddy wasn't a US Senator and then VP this dude would have been in jail for cocaine possession a long time ago.

But somehow the orange bastard who donates his pay back to the government and who's family business has donates all compensation from businesses they have in foreign companies to the US Treasury is the guy who is abusing his power to enrich himself.

You'd have to be some kind of retarded to believe that. Fuck , if you don't like Trump , that's understandable , he's an asshole at times, but he's the most trasnparent President we've ever seen. If he was going to blackmail Ukraine, he'd tweet that shit out , everyone remember "hey Russia if you have them emails, send them to the news channels?" He isn't sneaky like Democrats. Sometimes that is to his own detriment.

[Kathianne]

This is what happens with the Dems undermining Biden, while being unable to convict Trump in the Senate, whenever impeachment charges are brought:

https://hotair.com/archives/john-s-2/2019/09/26/wall-street-democrats-threaten-sit-2020-warren-nominee/



Wall Street Democrats Threaten To Sit Out 2020 If Warren Is The Nominee
JOHN SEXTONPosted at 3:21 pm on September 26, 2019

With Elizabeth Warren surging in recent polls, some Wall Street Democrats are getting worried about what a Warren administration would mean for them. CNBC reports some donors are even talking about sitting the next election out if Warren is the nominee:


Democratic donors on Wall Street and in big business are preparing to sit out the presidential campaign fundraising cycle — or even back President Donald Trump — if Sen. Elizabeth Warren wins the party’s nomination.


In recent weeks, CNBC spoke to several high-dollar Democratic donors and fundraisers in the business community and found that this opinion was becoming widely shared as Warren, an outspoken critic of big banks and corporations, gains momentum against Joe Biden in the 2020 race.


“You’re in a box because you’re a Democrat and you’re thinking, ‘I want to help the party, but she’s going to hurt me, so I’m going to help President Trump,’” said a senior private equity executive, who spoke on condition of anonymity in fear of retribution by party leaders…


“They will not support her. It would be like shutting down their industry,” an executive at one of the nation’s largest banks told CNBC, also speaking on condition of anonymity.


Warren seems to be reveling in all of this. Earlier this month she reacted to a discussion about Wall Street’s fears of her possible presidency by saying she endorsed the message.

...

[STTAB]

This is what happens with the Dems undermining Biden, while being unable to convict Trump in the Senate, whenever impeachment charges are brought:

https://hotair.com/archives/john-s-2/2019/09/26/wall-street-democrats-threaten-sit-2020-warren-nominee/


Because those people only give a fuck about their money. That's why so many Dems are openly hoping for a recession. If thousands of people have to lose their homes or even their lives to put Dems in power, well that's just the price of business.

[Kathianne]

Yep once again the scum bag Democrats fail to even think about the future. My God eventually they will have another President in office, and it is almost a certainty that for at least 2 years of said Presidency the GOP will control the House, and OF COURSE they are going to retaliate, because the people in Washington are all a bunch of useless scum children who shouldn't even be running lemonade stands let alone our country.

This is why I have said for the last year, it's time to nip this in the fucking bud. Trump's President, get the fuck over it, and whatever crimes Dems may or may not have committed in the past. Let's move on.

BUT , when they have spent every waking moment of the last 3 years accusing Trump of being a fucking traitor, for allegedly doing the things they themselves are doing no less, I"m sorry I can't really get mad about Trump wanting to expose THEIR crimes. I just can't.

Let's look at a few fact patterns.

In the time frame when Hillary Clinton was running for President the Clinton Foundation was raking in millions of dollars from a lot of the same people who had been trying to get into see her personally when she was SOS , literally the day after she lost in 2016 the Foundation stopped receiving any such donations and eventually shut down due to lack of interest.

Gee , I wonder why these folks were giving money to her charity when she was either in a position of power, or they thought she would be

Second fact pattern.

Biden's son is a fucking worthless drug addict. in what conceivable way was he qualified to sit on the board of directors of a Ukranian energy company, especially with a compensation package that paid roughly $50K a month. I mean come on.

And if he was a valuable employee , why is that he left the board roughly the same time his dad left the White House. I don't believe in coincidences.

Oh Hunter Biden managed to get another high paying job with a Chinese firm that mysteriously also ended at about the same time that his dad left the White House. Hmmmm

Other than those two accomplishments, Hunter's claim to fame is that he received a waiver to join the Navy Reserve (actually two waivers, one for his age at the time 42, and one for a previous drug conviction) but was still discharged from the military for failing a drug test.

I mean we're talking about a piece of shit here. If his daddy wasn't a US Senator and then VP this dude would have been in jail for cocaine possession a long time ago.

But somehow the orange bastard who donates his pay back to the government and who's family business has donates all compensation from businesses they have in foreign companies to the US Treasury is the guy who is abusing his power to enrich himself.

You'd have to be some kind of retarded to believe that. Fuck , if you don't like Trump , that's understandable , he's an asshole at times, but he's the most trasnparent President we've ever seen. If he was going to blackmail Ukraine, he'd tweet that shit out , everyone remember "hey Russia if you have them emails, send them to the news channels?" He isn't sneaky like Democrats. Sometimes that is to his own detriment.


It won't matter if it's in 2 years or 6 years or 12 years. The next time the situation presents itself, that is what will play out.

No more letting judicial appointments go through unless there are serious concerns. All will be ground and spat out. I'm sure many good people will want those jobs, since good lawyers really need a government salary.

Well people wanted to 'shake things up.' They've got it. Yes, the trolling has definitely shown just how bad the Dems are. No one wears gloves and they are all into the kill.

[Kathianne]

Because those people only give a fuck about their money. That's why so many Dems are openly hoping for a recession. If thousands of people have to lose their homes or even their lives to put Dems in power, well that's just the price of business.

That's why they'd give Trump money and vote for him?

[STTAB]

That's why they'd give Trump money and vote for him?

Yes because the people on Wal Street arent' there because they are stupid. They know that Trump has improved the economy via his policies, and they know Warren would destroy the economy. That's all they care about. They don't about trans this or trans that, they don't care about climate change. Ever known an investment banker? They know one thing, money.

As I said that is why Dems in office or running for office are scaring people about a recession that no one sees coming . They actually want a recession before the election. They would rather see the people in this country suffer and Trump out of office than see people winning in life without them in office.

That's not how politics is supposed to work. You're supposed to point at things your opposition is not succeeding at and offer solutions that you think would be better.

[STTAB]

It won't matter if it's in 2 years or 6 years or 12 years. The next time the situation presents itself, that is what will play out.

No more letting judicial appointments go through unless there are serious concerns. All will be ground and spat out. I'm sure many good people will want those jobs, since good lawyers really need a government salary.

Well people wanted to 'shake things up.' They've got it. Yes, the trolling has definitely shown just how bad the Dems are. No one wears gloves and they are all into the kill.


Damn if that isn't true. who the hell would want to subject themselves to everything the Dems have been doing to Trump people ? Not to mention just the financial aspect of it. Adam Schiff and company have financially destroyed innocent people via legal bills for no good reason at all.

[Kathianne]

Yes because the people on Wal Street arent' there because they are stupid. They know that Trump has improved the economy via his policies, and they know Warren would destroy the economy. That's all they care about. They don't about trans this or trans that, they don't care about climate change. Ever known an investment banker? They know one thing, money.

As I said that is why Dems in office or running for office are scaring people about a recession that no one sees coming . They actually want a recession before the election. They would rather see the people in this country suffer and Trump out of office than see people winning in life without them in office.

That's not how politics is supposed to work. You're supposed to point at things your opposition is not succeeding at and offer solutions that you think would be better.

Ok, you claim not to be pro-Trump, but you sound like one.

Bad Dem wall street (wo)men! Instead of saying, 'these folks are ripe to be permanently anti-Democrat, they just need to be woke!' Much better to say, "We don't need more f'ing money grabbers that vote Dem."

[Kathianne]

Why? As I said, he loves chaos. He does not have to troll or whatever it is he's doing here.

Keeping in mind what is in the whistleblower report the real problem are leakers from the administration:

https://hotair.com/archives/allahpundit/2019/09/26/trump-whistleblowers-sources-old-days-country-knew-deal-spies/

Trump On The Whistleblower’s Sources: In The Old Days, This Country Knew How To Deal With Spies
ALLAHPUNDITPosted at 4:01 pm on September 26, 2019



The point of having a formal whistleblower process is to encourage government officials who have information on misconduct to report it, without fear of retaliation. If you want to drain the swamp, make sure the swamp creatures understand that they could have their corruption exposed and won’t be allowed to threaten the witness when they do. Joseph Maguire specifically promised at this morning’s hearing, in fact, that he wouldn’t tolerate any retaliation against whoever wrote the whistleblower complaint on Ukraine.


So here’s the president casually hinting to a roomful of people today that the people responsible for supplying the information for the complaint would have been executed if America was great again. And not just any roomful of people. He was addressing U.S. diplomatic staff — people who are in a position themselves to be whistleblowers potentially if they witness misconduct.


Imagine being a Senate Republican who’s already feeling queasy about the impeachment fight now having to defend this. You’re grasping for arguments that the president’s intentions on Ukraine and the Bidens weren’t sinister. And suddenly he’s like wait until I get my hands on whoever reported this…


The remark stunned people in the audience, according to a person briefed on what took place, who had notes of what the president said. Mr. Trump made the statement about several minutes into his remarks before the group of about 50 people at the event intended to honor the United States Mission. At the outset, he condemned the former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s role in Ukraine at a time when his son Hunter Biden was on the board of a Ukrainian energy company…


“I want to know who’s the person who gave the whistle-blower the information because that’s close to a spy,” Mr. Trump said. “You know what we used to do in the old days when we were smart with spies and treason, right? We used to handle it a little differently than we do now.”…


Some in the crowd laughed, the person briefed on what took place said. The event was closed to reporters, and during his remarks, the president called the news media “scum” in addition to labeling them as crooked.


That reminded me of a vivid quote from a story I read last night about the political bind congressional Republicans are in over the Ukraine matter:


Months ago, one House member from a firmly red district described feeling like the most wanted man in his state after he made a vote Trump didn’t like.


“Trump has said he could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot someone dead and and not lose any supporters,” said the member. “Well, if that happens I’d better be photographed stuffing a body into the trunk of a car, or my constituents will demand to know why I’m not supporting the president.”


Could the president shoot a whistleblower on Fifth Avenue and not lose a single vote? We’ll find out.


It’s tempting to say “ugh” about his remarks to staff at the UN Mission and then move on but Democrats are eager for material to add to their impeachment case against him. Openly threatening the whistleblower and/or his sources is arguably obstruction of justice. After all, the officials who gave information to the whistleblower about Trump and Ukraine might eventually be called to testify before Congress to substantiate the allegations in the complaint. The president’s now on record as saying that he regards them as little better than spies. The federal law on witness tampering prohibits knowingly using “intimidation” with intent to prevent a witness from testifying. Democrats are probably going to toss this into the articles of impeachment and call it separate and independent grounds to impeach. What will Republicans say?

Yeah, I know: “He was joking.” People laughed, right?


Is it even clear from the whistleblower complaint, by the way, that the sources meant to blow the whistle on Trump? The impression I got from it isn’t that they were feeding information to the author in the hope and expectation that he would take it to Congress. It was more “can you believe this?” gossip, with no intention that it would be made public. After all, if they wanted the information out there, they could have written their own complaints or leaked it to the media ages ago. As it is, it’s unclear (and even doubtful) that they did anything illegal by sharing what they knew with the author. I wonder if Trump focused on them instead of the whistleblower himself in what he said about “spies” because it’s already been drummed into him by his lawyers that he shouldn’t say anything threatening about the author of the complaint. He needed to vent, he couldn’t vent legally about his chief antagonist without making much more trouble for himself, so he decided to scapegoat the people who supplied the whistleblower with information rather than the person who went public with it.


John has a post coming up about the Times’s new story this afternoon reporting key details about the whistleblower’s identity. I don’t want to step on that so I won’t say anything about it here except to note that the paper is under fire for publishing it for an understandable reason. Chew on this:




Matt Pearce 🦅
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@mattdpearce
It does seem like the incentives for whistleblowing are a bit perverse, because if you do it the proper, legal way, you become fairer game for journalists to identify you, whereas if you just leak the same stuff to journalists, we’ll generally conceal the source and protect you. https://twitter.com/ericschultz/status/1177292992106901504 …


Eric Schultz
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@EricSchultz
Riddle me this: NYT attempts to out a whistleblower protected by law while regularly granting anonymity to Trump Administration officials who have repeatedly used the paper to mislead the public.


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The famous op-ed written by an anti-Trump member of the government — “I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration” — is now more than a year old and its author remains unknown to this day, a secret successfully kept by the op-ed editors of the New York Times. If they’re willing to out the whistleblower, why not the author of that piece?

[icansayit]

That's why they'd give Trump money and vote for him?


BUT....they never turn down all of the THOUSANDS given to them by those EVIL WALL STREET people.


RIGHT??????

[Elessar]

Will Petey be man enough to come back today and admit that he was fooled again, that he shouldn't have trusted an anonymous source who claimed that the DNI threatened to resign? Survey says no.

In a word: "Nope"!

He will just reappear in spite of his clients, spout off some more unverified crap,
and shuffle back to his 'safe room'.:laugh:

[Elessar]

I see the gotcha comedy gold continued - and failed again for the 9,000th time! Pete was right though, with the anonymous sources and the actual source laughing at it - there WAS nothing to see here! :laugh2:

And now, with things officialy seen by intelligence members... Dems too, but not very intelligent, claim it's a smoking gun - while folks not trying to play games just laugh at it and call it a nothingburger - again. Gonna go nowhere - other than the Dems playing games and hoping that the negativity of another investigation will harm Trump in 2020. I think it does the opposite.

Now, I DO fully expect the comedy to continue, especially from Pete believing every anonymous source out there. But reality will be what wins, just like 2016.

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BREAKING: Whistleblower Complaint Has Been Released and It's Another Nothingburger

The House Intelligence Committee on Thursday released the declassified whistleblower complaint on President Trump's phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

Utah Republican Rep. Chris Stewart said he was initially "anxious" before reading it, but is now is "much more confident than I was this morning that this is going to go nowhere. ... there are just no surprises there." He added, "The entirety of it is focused on this one thing, and that's the transcript of one phone call, the transcript that was released [Wednesday] morning."

According to the anonymous whistleblower, "I was not a direct witness to most of these events described," but instead based the complaint on "various facts" he or she was informed of by "more than half a dozen officials." The whistleblower claims to have learned from "multiple U.S. officials" that "senior White House officials had intervened to 'lock down' all records of the phone call."

Here's another interesting part:



This sounds eerily similar to the fake news that ABC reported that discussing the Biden probe was a precondition of the two leaders having the phone call.

Overall, the complaint centers around the July 25th phone call, and uses anonymous sources and media reports to substantiate the complaint.

President Trump reacted to the release on Twitter:



Fred Fleitz, former NSC Chief of Staff, CIA analyst and House Intelligence Committee staff member, read and reacted to the complaint on Twitter. "As a former CIA analyst and former NSC official who edited transcripts of POTUS phone calls with foreign leaders, here are my thoughts on the whistleblower complaint which was just released... This is not an intelligence matter. It is a policy matter and a complaint about differences over policy. Presidential phone calls are not an intelligence concern. The fact that IC officers transcribe these calls does not give the IC IG jusrisdiction [sic] over these calls."

Rest - https://pjmedia.com/trending/breaking-whistleblower-report-has-been-released/

Totally hearsay comments from the snitch that have no merit except with the TDS crowd.

[Elessar]

Adam Schiff is a nasty man.

He is a waste of Oxygen.

[jimnyc]

Yep, saw it coming, and I'm glad they're going for it!!! :laugh2:

They made shit up again, Schiff tried to lie again, same 'ol same 'ol

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Quid Pro Quo and Cover-Up Allegations Against Trump are Falling Apart

Two new developments will probably have some Democrats wishing they'd waited for all the information to come out before jumping the gun on impeachment.

The first comes from an unnamed Ukrainian official who said that Kiev was not aware that the United States had suspended security funds before Trump's July 25 call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, and didn't know they had been on hold until a month after the call. This, like the actual transcript, undermines the allegation that there was a quid pro quo, or as Adam Schiff described, a mob-like "shakedown." The whistleblower complaint alleged that officials in Kiev knew military aid was at stake, but the whistleblower admitted not knowing "how or when they learned of it."

As for the allegations that the communication between Trump and Zelensky was an unusual effort to illicitly conceal the conversation, Politico revealed that the White House had been placing transcripts on the codeword system in 2017 after transcripts started leaking to the media.


After 2017, when verbatim transcripts of his conversations with the leaders of Australian and Mexico were leaked to the press, the White House began to restrict the number of officials who had access to the transcripts. One former Trump administration official confirmed that the White House started placing transcripts into the codeword system after those leaks.

Rest - https://pjmedia.com/trending/quid-pro-quo-and-cover-up-allegations-against-trump-are-falling-apart/

[STTAB]

Ok, you claim not to be pro-Trump, but you sound like one.

Bad Dem wall street (wo)men! Instead of saying, 'these folks are ripe to be permanently anti-Democrat, they just need to be woke!' Much better to say, "We don't need more f'ing money grabbers that vote Dem."

I'm neither anti or pro Trump. I'm pro anything that is good for me and mine and against anything that isn't. And occasionally a judgement call must be made that short term something might hurt me , but be good for country and so I'm pro that.

This is how I can go from thread to thread some times supporting Trump and other times bashing him. I don't care about the man, I care about the results. For example, most of the time I think his tweeting does more harm than good, but in this one specific topic I think these people need to be exposed and I think his tweets are the only way that's going to happen. Damn sure isn't going to be the news media that exposes the Democrats.

[jimnyc]

Say it ain't so, Joe??!!

Like I said, gonna backfire. Joe Joe is toast.

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Report: Affidavit From Ukrainian Prosecutor Says Joe Biden Wanted Him Out Over Burisma Investigation

An affidavit from a Ukrainian prosecutor says former Vice President Joe Biden wanted him removed because of an investigation into Burisma Holdings, where Biden’s son, Hunter, had a seat on the board of directors.


#NEW: Sworn statement of former Ukraine Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin regarding his termination. https://t.co/delpdbFIBq

— Alex Salvi (@alexsalvinews) September 27, 2019


“I was forced out because I was leading a wide-range corruption probe into Burisma Holdings, a natural gas firm active in Ukraine, and Joe Biden’s son, Hunter, was a member of the board of directors.” pic.twitter.com/EGcAQLTcF9

— Alex Salvi (@alexsalvinews) September 27, 2019

Joe Biden threatened to withhold a billion dollars of aid to Ukraine if the prosecutor Shokin was not fired or did not resign. He has bragged about the incident on camera. But the Democratic presidential candidate claims that was because he believed Shokin was not doing his job. Shokin resigned from his position shortly after Biden issued the threat.

Rest - https://dailycaller.com/2019/09/27/report-affidavit-ukrainian-prosecutor-joe-biden-removed-burisma-investigation/

[jimnyc]

Never gonna happen - But I'm 100% with Trump on this one. This man lied to the entire country for nearly a year claiming to have evidence against Trump - of which he NEVER HAD. Now he stands in front of America and LIES about a major major event - involving impeachment. Found out to be incorrect rather quickly - he then claims it was "parody". :rolleyes: He is truly pathetic and doesn't belong in our government.

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President Trump to Adam Schiff: Resign, You Sick Man

President Trump called on House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff to resign Friday morning. He also believes the congressman should be investigated after entering false and fake testimony into the congressional record during a hearing Thursday morning with Acting Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire.

https://i.imgur.com/80QSaa2.png

As a reminder, this is what Schiff did:

https://i.imgur.com/yAAdTEP.png

You can read directly about what President Trump discussed with the Ukrainian President during a call in July here. It's far from what Schiff literally made up.

Eventually, Schiff admitted during the hearing that his words were a "parody" after getting called out by fellow Congressmen and women.

https://i.imgur.com/BsvYv1P.png

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2019/09/27/president-trumps-calls-on-adam-schiff-to-resign-n2553808

[jimnyc]

Well, just as I said...

Go to link to get links to all the documents.

Just remember - TOAST


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BREAKING: Solomon Bombshell — Ukrainian Prosecutor Shokin Details BIDEN’S SHAKEDOWN — WILL LIKELY END BIDEN CAMPAIGN!

Investigative journalist John Solomon told Sean Hannity on Wednesday night that he has over 400 pages of documents that he will reveal Thursday that show Hunter Biden’s legal team worked with the Ukrainian prosecutors to end the investigation on the vice president’s son.

Joe Biden famously bragged on video how he had the investigator looking at his son’s Ukrainian gas deals to be fired.

Solomon told Hannity his news story would hit on Thursday afternoon. He added –it’s going to strongly dispute Joe Biden’s claim of why he got the Ukrainian top prosecutor fired.


Solomon dropped the documents on Thursday afternoon that implicate Joe Biden in the Ukrainian scandal.

** The documents were posted on Scribd here.

Investigative reporter John Solomon dropped hundreds of pages of documents today.

Here is the Victor Shokin statement.
Joe Biden famously had Shokin fired while he was investigating Hunter Biden, the former vice president’s son.

Rest - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/09/breaking-solomon-bombshell-ukrainian-prosecutor-shokin-details-bidens-shakedown-will-likely-end-biden-campaign/

[STTAB]

Never gonna happen - But I'm 100% with Trump on this one. This man lied to the entire country for nearly a year claiming to have evidence against Trump - of which he NEVER HAD. Now he stands in front of America and LIES about a major major event - involving impeachment. Found out to be incorrect rather quickly - he then claims it was "parody". :rolleyes: He is truly pathetic and doesn't belong in our government.

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President Trump to Adam Schiff: Resign, You Sick Man

President Trump called on House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff to resign Friday morning. He also believes the congressman should be investigated after entering false and fake testimony into the congressional record during a hearing Thursday morning with Acting Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire.

https://i.imgur.com/80QSaa2.png

As a reminder, this is what Schiff did:

https://i.imgur.com/yAAdTEP.png

You can read directly about what President Trump discussed with the Ukrainian President during a call in July here. It's far from what Schiff literally made up.

Eventually, Schiff admitted during the hearing that his words were a "parody" after getting called out by fellow Congressmen and women.

https://i.imgur.com/BsvYv1P.png

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2019/09/27/president-trumps-calls-on-adam-schiff-to-resign-n2553808


Trump could stop Schiff in his tracks by simply barring him from seeing any classified intel. Which would mean the entire House Oversight Committee would be barred from seeing classified intel. Adam Schiff has NO business being involved in the IC. He has spent the last 3 years lying to other members of Congress as well as the American people.

Speaking of, isn't it strange that it is a crime to lie to Congress, but they can lie to us with impunity?

[jimnyc]

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[STTAB]

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No one is surprised to learn that Democrats are , once again, accusing others of doing exactly what they are and have been doing for years.

Even an idiot like Pete understands this.

[jimnyc]

No one is surprised to learn that Democrats are , once again, accusing others of doing exactly what they are and have been doing for years.

Even an idiot like Pete understands this.

Oh, I know for sure what he sees, and what he cares for and doesn't care for, and what he stands for.

[STTAB]

I wonder if Pete would object if Jimmy altered one of his posts to make it appear as if he broke a board rule and then if caught shrugged and said "hey it was just a parody?"

[jimnyc]

I wonder if Pete would object if Jimmy altered one of his posts to make it appear as if he broke a board rule and then if caught shrugged and said "hey it was just a parody?"

And I'll ask about this one too - just how many middle of the road folks and undecided folks heard this BS and were naive enough to believe what Schiff was spewing? When you watch it, it almost looked like he was reading from the actual papers - and maybe something was written, but it was 100% completely made up. And folks will believe that shit.

[jimnyc]

And in addition to Schiff - did others just make shit up too? Are they this desperate to get rid of Trump, that they will chance their careers and just submit or state outright lies? Apparently so. :rolleyes:


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That Was Quick! State Department Already Refutes Partisan Anti-Trump Whistleblower’s Report – Says Senior Counselor Brechbuhl Was Not on Ukrainian Call

Rep. Mark Meadows (R-NC) joined Lou Dobbs on Thursday following the release of the partisan CIA whistleblower report.

Mark Meadows told Lou the foundation of the whistleblower’s complaint is already starting to fall apart.


Rep. Mark Meadows: Here’s what we do know. There’s reports out just minutes ago that on page three where the whistleblower said that he heard a counselor for the State Department was actually on the call, well the State Department says, no that didn’t happen. Well, we’re going to find out a whole more of what didn’t happen.

The partisan CIA whistleblower said in his report that State Department official Ulrich Brechbuhl was on the call with the Ukrainian president.

He wasn’t.

https://i.imgur.com/Z1rztvo.png

And video at link - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/09/that-was-quick-state-department-already-refutes-partisan-anti-trump-whistleblowers-report-says-senior-counselor-brechbuhl-was-not-on-ukrainian-call-video/

[STTAB]

And I'll ask about this one too - just how many middle of the road folks and undecided folks heard this BS and were naive enough to believe what Schiff was spewing? When you watch it, it almost looked like he was reading from the actual papers - and maybe something was written, but it was 100% completely made up. And folks will believe that shit.

It is HIGHLY unlikely that Pete shows his face in this thread again. There is only so much lying one person can do.

[icansayit]

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[Russ]

The Dems and the media have incredibly found new lows.

Its no longer enough for them to use anonymous sources. Now they're using anonymous sources that didn't witness anything... they're just quoting other even-more-anonymous sources.

There needs to be a term for this - anonymous times two? Anonymous squared?




BREAKING: Whistleblower Complaint Has Been Released and It's Another Nothingburger
...
According to the anonymous whistleblower, "I was not a direct witness to most of these events described," but instead based the complaint on "various facts" he or she was informed of by "more than half a dozen officials."

[LongTermGuy]

**We’re in the Midst of a Cold Civil War!!......There really is no whistleblower.

This is just a leaker who followed procedures that have been established to give whistleblowers protection.

The whole thing is a sham..... It’s nothing more than the Steele dossier 2.0....This is just the next phase of “Get Trump.”

>>>...This is the next phase of the operation to overturn the election results of 2016!!

**It’s the same players, it’s the same technique, it’s the same play. The whistle-blower report... it was probably prepared with the assistance of House Intelligence Committee staffers.....
https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/APP-092619-LIES-Schiff.jpg
`There’s no two clear sides of this. And certainly no shots have been fired. But nevertheless we’re in the midst of a Cold Civil War, and it encompasses a lot of things....

...It encompasses overturn the election results of 2016... it is about protecting and defending the deep state, the Washington establishment going forward.

Their careers, their fortunes, their corruption. There are terribly big stakes involved here for these people. And Trump is on the cusp of overturning it and exposing it. They cannot allow that to happen!

https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/APP-021919-The-DEEP-STATE.jpg
**The things they were alleging Trump did, none of it happened. They’re still lying about the Mueller report.....There’s nothing. But the sheer power of the ruling class is what is on display here.. and their literal `panic and fright` over having it all upended!!

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:laugh:...Ya never know!!! DO NOT BE SURPRISED!
https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/APP-092719-Hillary-2020.jpg

Little extra here...
The Democrats’ Impeachment Ploy Is Failing!

They’ve cried wolf so damn many times; the American people are not listening.!

https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/APP-Politico-Mag-TEARAWAY-092719.jpg
https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2019/09/27/dont-doubt-me-the-democrats-impeachment-ploy-is-failing/

[icansayit]

Due to much of the familiar sounding language, and usage of so many professional, legal sounding phrases. I compared the Whistleblower statement with several other...LIKELY FIGURES I have also read...using their own wording as well.

Though it may only be a coincidence, and I cannot prove what I have found is true, or accurate.

My best guess, after the Whistleblower said he/she contacted the STATE DEPARTMENT is...JOHN KERRY.

This is his Vietnam dossier, speech. Read carefully, and compare with other Kerry statements while Sec. State.

http://www2.iath.virginia.edu/sixties/HTML_docs/Resources/Primary/Manifestos/VVAW_Kerry_Senate.html

As you can probably tell. I have NEVER trusted Kerry, and when he decided to go ROGUE in visiting IRAN without permission, or telling the President. It seems fitting that he is the ONE.
Here is the COMPLAINT: https://time.com/5687640/read-trump-whistleblower-complaint/

PROOF about JOHN KERRY...here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRPt3xSW9n4&t=86s

[jimnyc]

Why are they lying about it? It's what they do. And in the face of lies, they will lie some more.

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Of Course, This Democratic Senator Is Changing The Story About His Meeting With Ukrainian President Zelensky

Sen. Chris Murphy (D-CT) is now singing like a bird about his meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. President Zelensky was reportedly the victim of a violent shakedown by President Trump, who threatened to withhold military aid unless he opened a corruption investigation into Hunter Biden, son of the former vice president. This all happened over a phone call in July. The allegations of quid pro quo went flying—all of this from an anonymous whistleblower complaint. The person is reportedly a CIA agent and he did not listen in on this conversation. It’s all second or third-hand accounts, which is why it’s loaded with errors. This was it for House Democrats. They couldn’t get Trump on collusion, so they’re trotting this out. It’s just as shoddy as the Russian collusion myth.

The Trump White House released the transcript of the call and it showed there was no quid pro quo. In fact, it’s one of the most vanilla things from this administration, but the House Democrats decided to get on the impeachment train before even reading the complaint that was declassified and released yesterday morning.

Murphy met with Zelensky in early September. Now, aid was withheld and Trump said he did it in the hopes of trying to get other nations to contribute more first, which isn’t out of character for this administration. They got European nations to contribute more to NATO, which has strengthened the alliance. Yet, the Democratic senator now says that Zelensky felt pressured by this White House to open a corruption probe against Hunter Biden. Well, The Washington Free Beacon got audio copy about that meeting and Murphy didn’t make any mention of the allegation that set off the impeachment circus on the Hill. That is until he decided to hold storytime after the whistleblower complaint was made public (via Free Beacon):


Senator Chris Murphy (D., Conn.), who traveled to Ukraine in early September, told reporters this week that he had heard "directly" from Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky that Zelensky felt pressured by Trump to investigate Hunter Biden's involvement with Ukrainian gas giant Burisma. But according to a tape of a briefing Murphy gave two weeks ago about his meeting with Zelensky, Murphy made no mention at all of such an allegation.

It was only 13 days after his initial briefing that Murphy emerged to say Zelensky had expressed concerns to him that the Trump administration was withholding U.S. aid to compel an investigation.

Murphy, who traveled to Ukraine and other European nations in early September with Sen. Ron Johnson (R., Wis.), has given inconsistent characterizations of his Sept. 5 meeting with Zelensky over the past two weeks, as Trump's conversations with Zelensky have drawn national and international attention. If, as Murphy says, Zelensky expressed grave concern over the administration’s actions, the Connecticut senator appears to have kept mum about it for over two weeks.

Murphy initially told news reporters in a Sept. 11 briefing that the Ukrainian president was "flummoxed" by the administration’s suspension of aid and wanted to reach a resolution to keep it flowing. Neither Zelensky nor any other official he spoke with brought up political requests from the Trump administration, he said, adding that they "didn't talk in depth" about the issue.

[…]

The senator said Monday that the "entire new Ukrainian administration" including Zelensky told him they believed the United States withheld aid due to his "unwillingness to investigate the Bidens."

"Once I got on the ground there, I heard about how confused the entire new Ukrainian administration was about the nature of these demands they were getting from the Trump administration to conduct this political investigation, and that they worry that the aid that was being cut off to Ukraine by the president was a consequence for their unwillingness, at the time, to investigate the Bidens," Murphy said, adding that the concern was relayed to him "from the president directly."

Murphy did not, however, relay any of this information to reporters in the Sept. 11 briefing, where he stressed the limited nature of his conversation with Zelensky on the issue.

Contrary to his claim Monday that Zelensky felt the administration was withholding U.S. aid because of his unwillingness to investigate Hunter Biden, Murphy said Sept. 11 that Zelensky said he "didn't have a clear sense of why aid was being withheld."

Rest - https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2019/09/28/and-now-we-have-a-democratic-senator-making-stuff-up-about-trumpukraine-transcript-n2553842


If The Case For Trump’s Impeachment Is So Strong, Why Are Liberals Lying About It?

Lying takes a lot of effort, telling the truth is easy. When you start lying you have to remember which lie you told which person, and as the truth begins to creep out, as it always does, you find yourself scrambling to twist it to fit back into your lie. Democrats, both in Congress and the media, are finding this out the hard way this week with their latest “Trump is corrupt and must be impeached” lie.

Most people learn that honesty is the best policy when they’re kids, but politicians and journalists are now overgrown, overpaid kids. There are maybe a handful of honest, mature people currently working in politics, but none have seen the business end of a TV camera since the 90s.

Almost everything about the allegations that have Democrats moving toward impeachment of the President is a lie, a proven lie. And they don’t care.

The call with Ukrainian President Zelensky did take place, so that part is true. From there, the lies begin.

“There was a quid pro quo” they said. The President threatened to withhold aid money from Ukraine unless Zelensky investigated Joe and Hunter Biden, we were told. The transcript showed that did not happen.

That fact did not stop any Democrat from saying it did. It did not stop anchors at CNN and MSNBC from saying it did.

On MSNBC, Katy Tur summarized the transcript this way: “Will you do me a favor and investigate Vice President Biden’s son? Will you do me a favor and get involved in the 2020 election? Vice President Biden is my chief political opponent.”

On CNN, Brianna Keillor said President Trump told Zelensky, “’I would like you to do us a favor…’ the President asks Zelensky to dig up dirt on Biden and his son, Hunter.”

The only problem is the President said nothing of the sort. The President was asking for Zelensky’s help investigating attempts by the previous Ukraine government’s meddling in the 2016 election. Read the transcript for yourself. To get to any mention of Biden you have to skip 540 words, fully three quarters the length of an op-ed. But CNN and MSNBC simply erased those words and created their own version of the conversation.

There was a time when the media reported on Ukraine’s attempt to influence our election made news. In January of 2017, Politico ran a story with the headline, “Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire.”

In that story, by the way, Politico reports, “Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers, a Politico investigation found.” (Emphasis added.)

Rest - https://townhall.com/columnists/derekhunter/2019/09/29/if-the-case-for-trumps-impeachment-is-so-strong-why-are-liberals-lying-about-it-n2553861

[icansayit]

Just watch, and remember...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZrOjKM_hfk

[Kathianne]

Why are they lying about it? It's what they do. And in the face of lies, they will lie some more.

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Of Course, This Democratic Senator Is Changing The Story About His Meeting With Ukrainian President Zelensky

Sen. Chris Murphy (D-CT) is now singing like a bird about his meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. President Zelensky was reportedly the victim of a violent shakedown by President Trump, who threatened to withhold military aid unless he opened a corruption investigation into Hunter Biden, son of the former vice president. This all happened over a phone call in July. The allegations of quid pro quo went flying—all of this from an anonymous whistleblower complaint. The person is reportedly a CIA agent and he did not listen in on this conversation. It’s all second or third-hand accounts, which is why it’s loaded with errors. This was it for House Democrats. They couldn’t get Trump on collusion, so they’re trotting this out. It’s just as shoddy as the Russian collusion myth.

The Trump White House released the transcript of the call and it showed there was no quid pro quo. In fact, it’s one of the most vanilla things from this administration, but the House Democrats decided to get on the impeachment train before even reading the complaint that was declassified and released yesterday morning.

Murphy met with Zelensky in early September. Now, aid was withheld and Trump said he did it in the hopes of trying to get other nations to contribute more first, which isn’t out of character for this administration. They got European nations to contribute more to NATO, which has strengthened the alliance. Yet, the Democratic senator now says that Zelensky felt pressured by this White House to open a corruption probe against Hunter Biden. Well, The Washington Free Beacon got audio copy about that meeting and Murphy didn’t make any mention of the allegation that set off the impeachment circus on the Hill. That is until he decided to hold storytime after the whistleblower complaint was made public (via Free Beacon):



Rest - https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2019/09/28/and-now-we-have-a-democratic-senator-making-stuff-up-about-trumpukraine-transcript-n2553842


If The Case For Trump’s Impeachment Is So Strong, Why Are Liberals Lying About It?

Lying takes a lot of effort, telling the truth is easy. When you start lying you have to remember which lie you told which person, and as the truth begins to creep out, as it always does, you find yourself scrambling to twist it to fit back into your lie. Democrats, both in Congress and the media, are finding this out the hard way this week with their latest “Trump is corrupt and must be impeached” lie.

Most people learn that honesty is the best policy when they’re kids, but politicians and journalists are now overgrown, overpaid kids. There are maybe a handful of honest, mature people currently working in politics, but none have seen the business end of a TV camera since the 90s.

Almost everything about the allegations that have Democrats moving toward impeachment of the President is a lie, a proven lie. And they don’t care.

The call with Ukrainian President Zelensky did take place, so that part is true. From there, the lies begin.

“There was a quid pro quo” they said. The President threatened to withhold aid money from Ukraine unless Zelensky investigated Joe and Hunter Biden, we were told. The transcript showed that did not happen.

That fact did not stop any Democrat from saying it did. It did not stop anchors at CNN and MSNBC from saying it did.

On MSNBC, Katy Tur summarized the transcript this way: “Will you do me a favor and investigate Vice President Biden’s son? Will you do me a favor and get involved in the 2020 election? Vice President Biden is my chief political opponent.”

On CNN, Brianna Keillor said President Trump told Zelensky, “’I would like you to do us a favor…’ the President asks Zelensky to dig up dirt on Biden and his son, Hunter.”

The only problem is the President said nothing of the sort. The President was asking for Zelensky’s help investigating attempts by the previous Ukraine government’s meddling in the 2016 election. Read the transcript for yourself. To get to any mention of Biden you have to skip 540 words, fully three quarters the length of an op-ed. But CNN and MSNBC simply erased those words and created their own version of the conversation.

There was a time when the media reported on Ukraine’s attempt to influence our election made news. In January of 2017, Politico ran a story with the headline, “Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire.”

In that story, by the way, Politico reports, “Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers, a Politico investigation found.” (Emphasis added.)

Rest - https://townhall.com/columnists/derekhunter/2019/09/29/if-the-case-for-trumps-impeachment-is-so-strong-why-are-liberals-lying-about-it-n2553861


I really don't like President Trump and most of those around him. I am concerned with his using Guiliani and perhaps also Digenova and Toesing. When it comes to foreign affairs, including investigations, he has White House lawyers and the State Department. He is the President OF THE UNITED STATES, not acting as a private individual.

With all that said, what is going on by the Democrats, from Pelosi changing the rules to leave out the minority members in a vote and having a say, to this more and more appearing as nothing more than an attempt to somehow install a Democrat in office in 2020, since they cannot win in a normal manner. It is for all intent and purposes, a coup.

[Elessar]

I really don't like President Trump and most of those around him. I am concerned with his using Guiliani and perhaps also Digenova and Toesing. When it comes to foreign affairs, including investigations, he has White House lawyers and the State Department. He is the President OF THE UNITED STATES, not acting as a private individual.

With all that said, what is going on by the Democrats, from Pelosi changing the rules to leave out the minority members in a vote and having a say, to this more and more appearing as nothing more than an attempt to somehow install a Democrat in office in 2020, since they cannot win in a normal manner. It is for all intent and purposes, a coup.

Bingo! Your caring or not caring about Trump is no concern of mine

But your characterizing this 3 years running horse dung as an attempted coup, Is Spot On.

[pete311]

With all that said, what is going on by the Democrats, from Pelosi changing the rules to leave out the minority members in a vote and having a say, to this more and more appearing as nothing more than an attempt to somehow install a Democrat in office in 2020, since they cannot win in a normal manner. It is for all intent and purposes, a coup.

Normal manner? I think you meant to say Dems can't win when Trump invites foreign intervention. A coup? lol. This is all Trump's doing. He's reckless and running the WH like a mob boss. Do you think people just sit back and take it? He's a shitty leader and this is what happens. He made his bed. Not the other way around.

[icansayit]

Normal manner? I think you meant to say Dems can't win when Trump invites foreign intervention. A coup? lol. This is all Trump's doing. He's reckless and running the WH like a mob boss. Do you think people just sit back and take it? He's a shitty leader and this is what happens. He made his bed. Not the other way around.


At least you aren't afraid to show all of us how you follow the other Sheep on PMSNBC, and CNN. All of them have been using their NEW WORD OF THE PAST WEEK...."MOB". And repeating....almost word for word, all of the Intentional, Liberal, DNC, Democrat, Leftist, Radical, Anti-Trump "KEY WORDS"....is laudable, but not very original...On your part.

The least you could show us is the slightest ability to put YOUR OWN Words, and Thoughts here. But no! So you are showing all of us EXACTLY HOW MUCH OF A "SHITTY" FOLLOWER YOU ARE.

By the way. We won't tell anybody not connected to DP...how much of a Loyal Comrad you are. Protecting everything, and everyone destined to DESTROY YOUR OWN NATION.....while you applaud, and ignore the DEEP STATE jerks who will also try to DESTROY You too!

[Elessar]

Normal manner? I think you meant to say Dems can't win when Trump invites foreign intervention. A coup? lol. This is all Trump's doing. He's reckless and running the WH like a mob boss. Do you think people just sit back and take it? He's a shitty leader and this is what happens. He made his bed. Not the other way around.

You have made your bed as a partner with the lying, exaggerated releases from these crybabies.
I hope you can nap well with them.

Biggest things you lack are objectivity and honesty. All you have is being led by the nose
by these liars and crybaby fools.

[LongTermGuy]

You have made your bed as a partner with the lying, exaggerated releases from these crybabies.
I hope you can nap well with them.

Biggest things you lack are objectivity and honesty. All you have is being led by the nose
by these liars and crybaby fools.


https://pics.me.me/imagine-acountrywhere-millions-of-brainwashed-liberals-believe-that-theny-times-22959427.png
https://i.imgflip.com/21fwe5.jpg

[pete311]

https://pics.me.me/imagine-acountrywhere-millions-of-brainwashed-liberals-believe-that-theny-times-22959427.png
https://i.imgflip.com/21fwe5.jpg

How ironic that you guys like robots post the same school yard memes like all the other brainwashed deplorables.

[jimnyc]

I'm glad to see that the Comedy continues!! As we know that it is lead by the larger comedians. And the longer they do this and the longer they keep it up - the better it is for Trump and those in congress and midterms and pretty much everywhere! I hope and pray that they don't eventually drop this silently and attempt to move on - nope, too late now, go for the impeachment. Run with this right up until election day, believing that it's harming Trump somehow. :)

[jimnyc]

I really don't like President Trump and most of those around him. I am concerned with his using Guiliani and perhaps also Digenova and Toesing. When it comes to foreign affairs, including investigations, he has White House lawyers and the State Department. He is the President OF THE UNITED STATES, not acting as a private individual.

With all that said, what is going on by the Democrats, from Pelosi changing the rules to leave out the minority members in a vote and having a say, to this more and more appearing as nothing more than an attempt to somehow install a Democrat in office in 2020, since they cannot win in a normal manner. It is for all intent and purposes, a coup.

Trump can be an ass, undoubtedly. He's not PC and doesn't do things conventionally, and is rarely a sweetheart. His ways turn a lot of folks off. But he gets crap done at least.

But yes, like him or not, he is the president. And running against his agendas is one thing - trying to undermine the president and trying to ruin the president, with a lot of lies and made up investigations is entirely another thing. SO SO SO much proof has come out to show that, SO many times the left has been busted OUTRIGHT LYING. So it's a little more than obvious what they are doing and what their intentions are. That doesn't make Trump a nice guy, nor should it mean folks on the right that don't care much for him should suddenly like him. - But - I do think most folks are at least seeing what the left is doing and what their intention is - no matter their feelings about Trump. Hell, even some shitty media on the left is starting to report on some of their BS and shenanigans.

[Kathianne]

and now Schiff is trying to figure out how to get all the transcripts of calls stored on the 'very secure server.' This was the inherent danger of releasing the first transcript and the damage it has already caused with other foreign leaders.

It's one thing to say, 'Trump,' it's another to recall that he is President of the United States. There will be others that follow and the precedent is now set.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-whistleblower/democrats-want-access-to-trumps-phone-calls-with-russias-putin-others-schiff-idUSKBN1WE0GN

[STTAB]

The facts are clear here, Democrats are scum. This goes beyond Trump, unfortunately most Americans are Petes, not Kathiannes, they can't separate their hatred for Trump from the facts.

[STTAB]

and now Schiff is trying to figure out how to get all the transcripts of calls stored on the 'very secure server.' This was the inherent danger of releasing the first transcript and the damage it has already caused with other foreign leaders.

It's one thing to say, 'Trump,' it's another to recall that he is President of the United States. There will be others that follow and the precedent is now set.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-whistleblower/democrats-want-access-to-trumps-phone-calls-with-russias-putin-others-schiff-idUSKBN1WE0GN

If you remember right, I called this months ago. No matter what Trump gives them, it will never be enough, this is just a fucking game to them.

These people are the absolute scum of the Earth.

[Kathianne]

The facts are clear here, Democrats are scum. This goes beyond Trump, unfortunately most Americans are Petes, not Kathiannes, they can't separate their hatred for Trump from the facts.

I don't hate Trump. I felt and feel he's bad for the country, in spite of all he may or has accomplished. I've said that since he announced and nothing, certainly not this latest has given me cause to change my mind.

It's all so unnecessary.

That the Democrats and Jeff Flake today are worse doesn't change the fact that character does matter.

[STTAB]

I don't hate Trump. I felt and feel he's bad for the country, in spite of all he may or has accomplished. I've said that since he announced and nothing, certainly not this latest has given me cause to change my mind.

It's all so unnecessary.

That the Democrats and Jeff Flake today are worse doesn't change the fact that character does matter.

I agree with you about character , it does matter, and Trump has low character. That can't be questioned. As I said, I didn't vote for Trump in 16 because of character.

But the fact is, I'm pissed off, I'm pissed that Democrats are doing this to a guy who was after all duly elected. Here's something a person like Pete will NEVER understand, I would have been beyond pissed if Republicans had done this to Obama, and I hated Obama so much that he was the deciding factor on me retiring from the military. I think he is a terrible person who also had terrible policies for this country, BUT he was after all duly elected . Hell, I was pissed when that little weasel McConnel wouldn't even given his Supreme Court nominee a vote, and I made that plenty clear on this and other boards in real time. It just isn't right for these assholes to do things like this .

I'm pissed off enough to just go ahead and vote for Trump in 2020 even with his own character flaws.

[Kathianne]

I agree with you about character , it does matter, and Trump has low character. That can't be questioned. As I said, I didn't vote for Trump in 16 because of character.

But the fact is, I'm pissed off, I'm pissed that Democrats are doing this to a guy who was after all duly elected. Here's something a person like Pete will NEVER understand, I would have been beyond pissed if Republicans had done this to Obama, and I hated Obama so much that he was the deciding factor on me retiring from the military. I think he is a terrible person who also had terrible policies for this country, BUT he was after all duly elected . Hell, I was pissed when that little weasel McConnel wouldn't even given his Supreme Court nominee a vote, and I made that plenty clear on this and other boards in real time. It just isn't right for these assholes to do things like this .

I'm pissed off enough to just go ahead and vote for Trump in 2020 even with his own character flaws.

His lack of character and civil comportment doesn't give such to those who are attempting a coup. By the very nature of such, they lack character.

Indeed, the accusation of 'if you vote against Trump, you are liberal or voted for liberal,' is a fallacy at least for me. As I've said, I'm more conservative or as Gunny would say, 'a traditional liberal' than many here.

[pete311]

Invite foreign powers to interfere with elections twice and you’re gonna get impeached. This is trumps making, no conspiracy. He is no king.

[STTAB]

Invite foreign powers to interfere with elections twice and you’re gonna get impeached. This is trumps making, no conspiracy. He is no king.


Yep, I called this like a year ago right on this board. Democrats have set Trump up , if he investigates THEIR actual crimes, they will accuse him of abusing his authority, as they abuse theirs.

Pete, I REALLY wish I simply believed you were stupid and didn't see what is going on here. Sadly though , one can only surmise that you know EXACTLY what is going on here and are simply dishonest.

BTW Pete, as for the "whistle blower" and the law requiring complaints be turned over to Congress. The actual facts are that the President is not part of the intelligence community and thus the IG has zero authority over him and so was obviously not authorized to turn over shit.

I mean we all know the law and facts don't matter to you, but there they are anyway.

[STTAB]

His lack of character and civil comportment doesn't give such to those who are attempting a coup. By the very nature of such, they lack character.

Indeed, the accusation of 'if you vote against Trump, you are liberal or voted for liberal,' is a fallacy at least for me. As I've said, I'm more conservative or as Gunny would say, 'a traditional liberal' than many here.


I've had the same levied against me on here and other boards because I refuse to play the "you must support everything your party does" mantra, however I must say that I am less and less inclined to call out Trump when he does do something stupid every day because I'm sick of the hypocrisy. How many Democrats you see calling out the behavior of Democrats in Congress and or running for President right now? Very few.

I'm tired of feeling obligated to join in on "orange man bad" every time he tweets something stupid, and I've made more feelings abundantly clear, if he broke the law charge him, right after you charge Democrats who have broken the law.

[Kathianne]

I've had the same levied against me on here and other boards because I refuse to play the "you must support everything your party does" mantra, however I must say that I am less and less inclined to call out Trump when he does do something stupid every day because I'm sick of the hypocrisy. How many Democrats you see calling out the behavior of Democrats in Congress and or running for President right now? Very few.

I'm tired of feeling obligated to join in on "orange man bad" every time he tweets something stupid, and I've made more feelings abundantly clear, if he broke the law charge him, right after you charge Democrats who have broken the law.
Moral or rather immoral equivalency doesn't float my boat. Glad your's skims along though. ;)

[STTAB]

Moral or rather immoral equivalency doesn't float my boat. Glad your's skims along though. ;)


There is no equivalency between anything Trump has said with what Democrats have done since he took office Kath. I think you know that.

Trump tweets and says mean and or dumb things. Democrats do illegal things.

Let me ask you a real question. How much of the dirty things Democrats have been doing the last 3 years would we not even know about if Trump weren't an asshole who fought back?

For example, there blatant lies to try to keep Kavanaugh of the SCOTUS, we wouldn't even have known if Trump would have quietly withdrawn the nomination as usually happens .

Hell, for that matter, Trump wouldn't have even been elected in the first place had he not been loud and some would say an asshole in the face of outright hatred from the left, and if that had happened we'd have a real criminal named Hillary Clinton in the White House right now.

Given my druthers I'd kick Trump out of office and shoot every single Democrat in Congress who has allowed this travesty to happen. However, that isn't a realistic choice, so I must stick with the realistic, reelect an asshole or allow the criminals to gain full power by virtue of being willing to break the god damned law and destroy people to get that power. No thanks.

[jimnyc]

Invite foreign powers to interfere with elections twice and you’re gonna get impeached. This is trumps making, no conspiracy. He is no king.

https://i.imgur.com/KzWGeI4.gif

[Kathianne]

There is no equivalency between anything Trump has said with what Democrats have done since he took office Kath. I think you know that.

Trump tweets and says mean and or dumb things. Democrats do illegal things.

Let me ask you a real question. How much of the dirty things Democrats have been doing the last 3 years would we not even know about if Trump weren't an asshole who fought back?

For example, there blatant lies to try to keep Kavanaugh of the SCOTUS, we wouldn't even have known if Trump would have quietly withdrawn the nomination as usually happens .

Hell, for that matter, Trump wouldn't have even been elected in the first place had he not been loud and some would say an asshole in the face of outright hatred from the left, and if that had happened we'd have a real criminal named Hillary Clinton in the White House right now.

Given my druthers I'd kick Trump out of office and shoot every single Democrat in Congress who has allowed this travesty to happen. However, that isn't a realistic choice, so I must stick with the realistic, reelect an asshole or allow the criminals to gain full power by virtue of being willing to break the god damned law and destroy people to get that power. No thanks.

Please don't say you think, I think, knowing you think. Really. I don't say that sort of garbage on anyone.

Speak your mind, I will mine. Either can agree or disagree.

You do that often, please don't.

[jimnyc]

Just some truth being injected into the story, about the future of this investigation & for the current reality. And the way the reporting requirement seemingly was changed just prior to all of this... it makes all of DC stink of political BS right now.

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Ranking Judiciary Member Collins: Dems 'Rushing to Judgment Because They Know Time Is Running Out'

(CNSNews.com) - "Is the president in jeopardy of being removed from office?" Fox News's Maria Bartiromo, host of "Sunday Morning Futures," asked Rep. Doug Collins (R-Ga.) yesterday:

"No, he's not in jeopardy of being removed from office," Collins, the top Republican on the House Judiciary Committee responded. "He's in jeopardy of having to continue the onslaught of lies and attacks and half-truths from a one-sided investigation in the House."

Collins suggested that Democrats are in jeopardy of losing the election:

"They're rushing to judgment, Maria. Keep this clearly in mind. They're rushing to judgment because they know time is running out. And they're desperate for this president not to win next year...This is the derangement syndrome in the House right now."

Collins noted that the House Judiciary Committee has held a number of hearings on various allegations against Trump but they all "completely fall apart under investigation."

"The collusion was a false narrative, the conspiracies. All these things were false when you actually investigate. So now they have decided, let's throw that out the window, because that's not working for us. Fairness is not working. Being on the right side of the American people is not all right. So we're just going to ramrod it through. That's what's happening right now."

The whistleblower admitted in his complaint that he does not have first-hand knowledge of Trump's phone call. He/she knows only what others in the White House told him/her. But until recently, Collins noted, a whistleblower complaint had to stem from first-hand knowledge.

"Well, that's what's really been interesting here in the last little bit, because we have been finding out that the whistle-blower rules, especially in the intelligence community, seem to have been changed," Collins continued:


And they have been changed from requiring and demanding a firsthand account or an actual knowledge, firsthand knowledge of the abuse or the misuse of issues in the intelligence community, to now where they can have secondhand information.

If you look at the whistle-blower report, even besides the transcript and everything else, comparing the two is really interesting, because it seems to be a very well-written document, multi-sourced. If this was a piece for The New York Times or The Washington Post, that's not -- be what you expect.

But you don't expect this and what comes in the form as a legal document, accusing the president of doing something in a legal fashion and doing so from secondhand information.

Now, as we go forward here, is that going to be the standard that has been changed now in the intelligence community, where basically anybody there can take any report that they want to over the watercooler, wherever, and decide to file a complaint?

This is more serious than this. This president and our country deserves better than what we're seeing right here.

Rest - https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/ranking-judiciary-member-collins-dems-rushing-judgment-because-they-know

[STTAB]

Please don't say you think, I think, knowing you think. Really. I don't say that sort of garbage on anyone.

Speak your mind, I will mine. Either can agree or disagree.

You do that often, please don't.


I'm not allowed to voice an opinion that you know something? LOL okay.

Feel free to voice any opinion you like as far as I'm concerned.

[icansayit]

THIS SAYS IT ALL:

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1561535193/images_400x400.jpg

And for continuous WHINERS.... https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQUR8OEmGJJffdkYb8_nIh-npWfkNRus77TYnhf-2yEAelALLEcPA


And the Perpetually Insulted, offended, and victimized....https://pics.me.me/so-you-area-perpetually-offended-siw-im-writing-you-aprescription-4934263.png

[Kathianne]

I'm not allowed to voice an opinion that you know something? LOL okay.

Feel free to voice any opinion you like as far as I'm concerned.

Your truth and facts may not be what I consider truth and facts. Usually I ignore when anyone presents opinions as truth or fact. I'm not so comfortable when they speak to what I 'know, think, or feel.' If you couch it in, "I think you may feel..." I will deal with or not.

[STTAB]

Your truth and facts may not be what I consider truth and facts. Usually I ignore when anyone presents opinions as truth or fact. I'm not so comfortable when they speak to what I 'know, think, or feel.' If you couch it in, "I think you may feel..." I will deal with or not.


That, along with some occasional foul language, are just my style of debate. If you can't handle it, then by all means . but I think you can.


:laugh2:

[Kathianne]

That, along with some occasional foul language, are just my style of debate. If you can't handle it, then by all means . but I think you can.


:laugh2:

Sure I could, but no need to. I asked civilly. Only pertains when you tell me what I think or feel.

[STTAB]

Sure I could, but no need to. I asked civilly. Only pertains when you tell me what I think or feel.


I have NEVER told you what you think or feel. I have said what I THINK you think or feel. Big difference.

Anyway, back on topic. notice that Petey can't come back and say "you're right, I now see that the IG didn't have the legal authority to turn that complaint over to Congress? Just as with every other matter he is factually wrong about, but can't just say "okay I was wrong?"

[jimnyc]

I also think this whole thing, the whole change, should be looked at as it's just awfully close and coincidental. Too many guesses in this article, but something stinks about it.

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President Trump Demands to Know Who Changed Whistleblower Rules Shortly Before CIA Spy Filed Complaint

President Trump on Monday morning demanded to know who at the ODNI [Office of Director of National Intelligence] changed the whistleblower rules shortly before the Deep State CIA spy filed a complaint using second-hand information.

“WHO CHANGED THE LONG STANDING WHISTLEBLOWER RULES JUST BEFORE SUBMITTAL OF THE FAKE WHISTLEBLOWER REPORT? DRAIN THE SWAMP!” Trump tweeted in all caps Monday morning.

The whistleblower form was changed within the last year shortly before the CIA officer filed a complaint against President Trump in August using second-hand gossip and fake news media reports as his ‘sources.’

The Deep State Intelligence Community secretly gutted the whistleblower form and now allows the complaint to be filed with second-hand knowledge — previously, whistleblowers were required to be eyewitnesses or to have first-hand, direct knowledge of alleged misconduct.

Rumors are swirling that the Deep State whistleblower is a John Brennan protégé who was planted inside of the White House to spy on President Trump and thwart the Spygate investigation.

Former CIA Director John Brennan on Saturday called on an unlimited number of spies embedded in the Deep State to use the new whistleblower form to report President Trump following a hit from an anonymous CIA officer who snitched on Trump’s call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

And Brennan had a very close ally at the ODNI…

John Brennan’s ally at the ODNI Sue Gordon resigned (was forced out by Trump) on August 8th and the date of the whistleblower complaint is August 12th — perhaps Trump should look at Sue Gordon as the person who altered the whistleblower rules.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/09/president-trump-demands-to-know-who-changed-whistleblower-rules-shortly-before-cia-spy-filed-complaint/

[STTAB]

I also think this whole thing, the whole change, should be looked at as it's just awfully close and coincidental. Too many guesses in this article, but something stinks about it.

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President Trump Demands to Know Who Changed Whistleblower Rules Shortly Before CIA Spy Filed Complaint

President Trump on Monday morning demanded to know who at the ODNI [Office of Director of National Intelligence] changed the whistleblower rules shortly before the Deep State CIA spy filed a complaint using second-hand information.

“WHO CHANGED THE LONG STANDING WHISTLEBLOWER RULES JUST BEFORE SUBMITTAL OF THE FAKE WHISTLEBLOWER REPORT? DRAIN THE SWAMP!” Trump tweeted in all caps Monday morning.

The whistleblower form was changed within the last year shortly before the CIA officer filed a complaint against President Trump in August using second-hand gossip and fake news media reports as his ‘sources.’

The Deep State Intelligence Community secretly gutted the whistleblower form and now allows the complaint to be filed with second-hand knowledge — previously, whistleblowers were required to be eyewitnesses or to have first-hand, direct knowledge of alleged misconduct.

Rumors are swirling that the Deep State whistleblower is a John Brennan protégé who was planted inside of the White House to spy on President Trump and thwart the Spygate investigation.

Former CIA Director John Brennan on Saturday called on an unlimited number of spies embedded in the Deep State to use the new whistleblower form to report President Trump following a hit from an anonymous CIA officer who snitched on Trump’s call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

And Brennan had a very close ally at the ODNI…

John Brennan’s ally at the ODNI Sue Gordon resigned (was forced out by Trump) on August 8th and the date of the whistleblower complaint is August 12th — perhaps Trump should look at Sue Gordon as the person who altered the whistleblower rules.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/09/president-trump-demands-to-know-who-changed-whistleblower-rules-shortly-before-cia-spy-filed-complaint/


Absolutely ridiculous that so many uncollected bureaucrats have so much power

[STTAB]

Your truth and facts may not be what I consider truth and facts. Usually I ignore when anyone presents opinions as truth or fact. I'm not so comfortable when they speak to what I 'know, think, or feel.' If you couch it in, "I think you may feel..." I will deal with or not.


By the way Kath, truth and facts are just that. Truth and facts. We can't have different opinions about them. Something either is a fact, or it isn't.

[icansayit]

Your truth and facts may not be what I consider truth and facts. Usually I ignore when anyone presents opinions as truth or fact. I'm not so comfortable when they speak to what I 'know, think, or feel.' If you couch it in, "I think you may feel..." I will deal with or not.

Because someone disagree's with PROVEN, DOCUMENTED, VERIFIED FACTS...does not make them wrong, whether you agree or not. You can ignore the TRUTH, and FACTS as much as you like. BUT...You cannot CHANGE the TRUTHFUL FACTS. No matter how much you disagree, and tell someone else THEY ARE WRONG...because YOU SAID SO.

When someone says "What I consider to be Truth, and Facts", when the opposite is proven, double-checked, verified, and documented by an honorable, truthful source. IT DOESN'T MATTER that you, or anyone else doesn't consider it Truth.

That idea, or statement...in a nutshell, is you, or someone else projecting a sense of your own censorship, because the TRUTHFUL FACTS...don't please, or match what only YOU determine it to be. Better known as POLITICAL CORRECTNESS. ie: either you do as I say, or else.

BUT...I should remember. According to some people who claim to be more intelligent, or informed than I. How dare I suggest they might be slightly, or even more Wrong. That's called offering an Opinion....better known as a THOUGHT....because I dared to THINK it.