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Kathianne
09-12-2019, 05:06 AM
What sounds ok at first, loses something with a bit of thought:

https://bearingarms.com/tom-k/2019/09/10/white-house-considers-plan-spy-mentally-ill-effort-stop-shootings/
STTAB
09-12-2019, 10:59 AM
What sounds ok at first, loses something with a bit of thought:

https://bearingarms.com/tom-k/2019/09/10/white-house-considers-plan-spy-mentally-ill-effort-stop-shootings/


As I've said before, I' would only be okay with red flag laws that allow for due process.

Liberals, of course, want ones without due process therefor we are once again at odds.

Same way I feel about the no fly list. If there was due process where the government had to prove you belonged on that list in a public hearing, fine but...
Kathianne
09-12-2019, 11:06 AM
As I've said before, I' would only be okay with red flag laws that allow for due process.

Liberals, of course, want ones without due process therefor we are once again at odds.

Same way I feel about the no fly list. If there was due process where the government had to prove you belonged on that list in a public hearing, fine but...

Not just liberals.
STTAB
09-12-2019, 11:17 AM
Not just liberals.


Fair point.
SassyLady
09-12-2019, 12:51 PM
No Due Process even though mistaken identity.


Florida Man Lost His 2A Rights, Thanks To Red Flag Laws And Mistaken Identity

The last thing on my mind was me having to turn over my gun,” Carpenter told AmmoLand. “I was upset when the Sheriff told me that I need to surrender my gun before any due process.”
Here's where things get even more ridiculous.
Carpenter's firearms had to remain in police custody until the plaintiff can say, in court, that he's not the man that she filed a complaint against. He'd then have to petition the court to get his firearms back...and he would have to bear the cost. Carpenter will get his day in court later this month.
What's happening to this man is the exact instance Second Amendment supporters have worried about. This very instant is what we've talked about, time and time again. What if Carpenter needed to defend himself between now and his court date? He couldn't, because the government failed him. He's having to prove himself innocent in a country where everyone is supposed to be innocent until proven guilty.


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2019/08/19/red-flag-law-failure-guy-is-stripped-of-his-gunsbecause-of-another-mans-criminal-activity-n2551921