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-Cp
09-05-2007, 08:31 PM
Gee.. what a shock.... more muslims...


Police have smashed a suspected al Qaeda terror cell nursing a "profound hatred of US citizens" plotting to bomb civilian and military jets.

The force of the planned explosions would have been worse than the train bombings in Madrid and the Tube and bus attacks in London on 7 July, 2005, according to German security sources. Those attacks killed 191 and 52 people respectively.


Three men aged 22, 28 and 29 have been arrested in Germany days before they planned to strike, and bomb-making equipment and explosives have been seized.

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One suspect was taken away by helicopter in handcuffs


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Another of the suspects is led away in handcuffs.

The arrests come a day after Danish police conducted raids and took eight young Muslims into custody whom they suspect of plotting a bomb attack and having links with al Qaeda. No direct link has yet been established between the two plots.

Federal prosecutor Monika Harms said the three suspects had bought 700kg (1,500lbs) of hydrogen peroxide to make massive bombs. She said: "We have prevented what we believe would have been the worst terror attacks ever on German soil".

She declined to name specific targets but said the suspects had an eye on institutions and establishments frequented by Americans in Germany, including discos, pubs and airports.

Citing unnamed security sources in Berlin, the broadcaster Suedwestfunk said Frankfurt International Airport and US Ramstein Air Base were among targets.

Joerg Ziercke, the head of Germany's federal crime office, said the men had a "profound hatred of US citizens".


German security sources have reportedly said the men belonged to the Islamic Jihad, an Egyptain terrorist group that merged with al Qaeda in 2001.

Wolfgang Bosbach, an MP with Chancellor Angela Merkel's Christian Democrats, said the plot may have been timed to coincide with the anniversary of the 2001 atrocities in the US.

Franz Josef Jung, the defence minister, said: "The attacks were planned for the near future. They presented a real threat to life."


The suspects are believed to have been planning simultaneous attacks on aircraft sitting on the ground. Security services had been watching them for six months until yesterday, when the investigators spontaneously made the arrests after the men were observed moving chemicals from one storage location to another.


As is customary in Germany, the suspects have only been identified by their first names and last initials. Daniel S comes from the Saarland, Fritz G from Ulm in Bavaria and Adem Y from Turkey, although there are reports that he holds a Pakistani passport. The two Germans are 22 and 28, while Adem Y is 29.

The men were arrested yesterday as two dozen raids took place across Germany. They are believed to have been detained in the Frankfurt area.


One of those held, Fritz G, put up a fight when police raided the men's house in the Frankfurt area. He escaped through a bathroom window and managed to reach an outer cordon of officers about 300 metres away before being aprehended. He was able to snatch a gun, which went off, from a policeman. No one was hurt.

A German network reported that shots had been fired when police raided a house in a town in the western state of North Rhine-Westphalia.


The Germans are converts to Islam. At least one of the men is reported to have received terrorist training overseas.

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diuretic
09-05-2007, 08:40 PM
Excellent work by the German police, that's punched a hole in these lunatics' plans.

Gaffer
09-05-2007, 09:00 PM
On top of this 8 more were arrested in Denmark, they don't know yet if the two groups were connected.

darin
09-05-2007, 09:00 PM
Still think our biggest threat comes from our governments?

gabosaurus
09-05-2007, 09:07 PM
Our government has escalated the whole mess.

darin
09-05-2007, 09:08 PM
Our government has escalated the whole mess.

(sigh)....there goes the IQ in this thread...flush..down the toilet.

diuretic
09-05-2007, 09:12 PM
On top of this 8 more were arrested in Denmark, they don't know yet if the two groups were connected.

Yes, good work there as well. I wonder if there is a connection? I think AQ is supposed to work in self-contained, secretive cells but the timing is sort of very coincidental. Anyway these folks can kiss goodbye to freedom and get ready for a long visit to a prison cell. And rightly bloody so.

Gaffer
09-05-2007, 09:49 PM
Our government has escalated the whole mess.

Arresting terrorist is definitely escalating things. Especially when they are in another country. Now they are going to hate us even more. I'll bet they now hate us even more than you hate Bush. You give a whole new meaning to silly woman.

Gaffer
09-05-2007, 09:51 PM
Yes, good work there as well. I wonder if there is a connection? I think AQ is supposed to work in self-contained, secretive cells but the timing is sort of very coincidental. Anyway these folks can kiss goodbye to freedom and get ready for a long visit to a prison cell. And rightly bloody so.

with all the cells that exist it's possible they are two different ones with different targets. The Germans are looking into other suspects as well. It wouldn't surprise me if they announce more arrests by tomorrow.

diuretic
09-05-2007, 10:14 PM
with all the cells that exist it's possible they are two different ones with different targets. The Germans are looking into other suspects as well. It wouldn't surprise me if they announce more arrests by tomorrow.

I know this isn't the "correct" thing to say because it indicates that there is an unknown level of terrorist activity but that's good news. It's good news because the civil law enforcement authorities (I would think in Germany it's the Bundeskriminalamt on the case - http://www.bka.de/ - or Bundespolizei (perhaps even the famed GSG9) are picking these people up. High level intel work obviously but also perfect timing.

manu1959
09-05-2007, 10:29 PM
Our government has escalated the whole mess.

yes it was all so peaceful during the blow job years....the tablecloth heads loved us then.....

chesswarsnow
09-05-2007, 10:37 PM
Sorry bout that,

1. The *Big Picture* here is what should alarm the *Neoliberls*.
2. And Neoliberal is a modern day, *Commie Bastard Liberal Socialist*.
3. Back to *The Big Picture*, we now are seeing Germans who converted to Islam making attacks on Non- Islamics, even their own Countrymen.
4. This should alarm anyone who has red blood running through their veins.
5. Islam is a kill all take all religion folks, we have to take it out of areas where civil people are.
6. Round them up and cage all the bastards, would be a good start.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

nevadamedic
09-06-2007, 02:41 AM
Sorry bout that,

1. The *Big Picture* here is what should alarm the *Neoliberls*.
2. And Neoliberal is a modern day, *Commie Bastard Liberal Socialist*.
3. Back to *The Big Picture*, we now are seeing Germans who converted to Islam making attacks on Non- Islamics, even their own Countrymen.
4. This should alarm anyone who has red blood running through their veins.
5. Islam is a kill all take all religion folks, we have to take it out of areas where civil people are.
6. Round them up and cage all the bastards, would be a good start.

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

We also need to hit Mecca.

jafar00
09-06-2007, 03:57 AM
We also need to hit Mecca.

Then you really would have a problem. Al Qaeda has nothing to do with Islam. If you want 1.5 billion more enemies, go right ahead.

Nukeman
09-06-2007, 06:13 AM
Then you really would have a problem. Al Qaeda has nothing to do with Islam. If you want 1.5 billion more enemies, go right ahead.
I agree with you on this, we have NO business suggesting to BOMB any religious sight. that would only bring us down to the level of the terrorist.

Dont missunderstand fellings of compasion for weakness. I will be the first to tell you if all of Islam decided to wage a "holy jihad" against the US that would be one of the many targets on the table.. ONLY in retaliation....

diuretic
09-06-2007, 06:24 AM
I agree with you on this, we have NO business suggesting to BOMB any religious sight. that would only bring us down to the level of the terrorist.

Dont missunderstand fellings of compasion for weakness. I will be the first to tell you if all of Islam decided to wage a "holy jihad" against the US that would be one of the many targets on the table.. ONLY in retaliation....

And that would be fair enough I think. But "Islam" won't do it. Nor will any state that has a predominantly Islamic population. A gang of nutters did and may still, although I can't express how sincerely I wish that never to happen, but it won't be a case of any country deciding to wage war against the US.

Nukeman
09-06-2007, 06:33 AM
And that would be fair enough I think. But "Islam" won't do it. Nor will any state that has a predominantly Islamic population. A gang of nutters did and may still, although I can't express how sincerely I wish that never to happen, but it won't be a case of any country deciding to wage war against the US.This is true!! I will point out one thing though it is much more than just "a gang of nutters" there is a very large group of supposed Muslims that are doing a great diservice to the world in general...

diuretic
09-06-2007, 07:03 AM
This is true!! I will point out one thing though it is much more than just "a gang of nutters" there is a very large group of supposed Muslims that are doing a great diservice to the world in general...

Fair point. There are groups of extremists who seem to network with one another. Off the top of my head as well as AQ there is Jemayah Islamia (my transcription spelling could be bad) which seems to be operating in Indonesia (and is getting its arse kicked by the Indonesian authorities who are doing an excellent job in sorting them out), the Moro Liberation Front in the Philippines, the various Muslim independence groups in southern Thailand (I visited a Muslim fishing village in the Andaman Islands a few years ago, extremely hospitable people). They are dangerous and they are seemingly without conscience. They are also making life bloody hard for all the other Muslims all over the world who wish no harm to anyone.