READ: IG report on James Comey memos

[pete311]

DOJ IG "found no evidence that Comey or his attorneys released any of the classified information contained in any of the memos to members of the media."
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/29/politics/ig-report-james-comey/

[Kathianne]

DOJ IG "found no evidence that Comey or his attorneys released any of the classified information contained in any of the memos to members of the media."
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/29/politics/ig-report-james-comey/

No he used the professor as a cut-out. He needs to polish that self-appointed halo. He's not vindicated, just showed his lawyer creds to make conviction very unlikely, thus no indictment.

It was found that he had a deleterious effect on the FBI and DOJ, thus he is and was a bad actor.

[STTAB]

No he used the professor as a cut-out. He needs to polish that self-appointed halo. He's not vindicated, just showed his lawyer creds to make conviction very unlikely, thus no indictment.

It was found that he had a deleterious effect on the FBI and DOJ, thus he is and was a bad actor.

Wasted effort Kath, Petey is a lost cause. Totally okay with a completely corrupt system illegally spying on Trump and his campaign and unwilling to admit the obvious.

Comey behaved so poorly that literally EVERYONE wanted him fired, until Trump actually did fire him of course. Then he became Saint Jim the Martyr.

At some point we are going to have deal with folks like Pete, but how? How do you deal with fundamentally dishonest people? That's a tough question.

[pete311]

Wasted effort Kath, Petey is a lost cause. Totally okay with a completely corrupt system illegally spying on Trump and his campaign and unwilling to admit the obvious.

Comey behaved so poorly that literally EVERYONE wanted him fired, until Trump actually did fire him of course. Then he became Saint Jim the Martyr.

At some point we are going to have deal with folks like Pete, but how? How do you deal with fundamentally dishonest people? That's a tough question.

What was dishonest about providing a quote and a link to Trump's IG report. What is dishonest about that? :lol:

[Kathianne]

Even CNN can't polish this flotsam:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYgojpyqv3Y&feature=youtu.be

[SassyLady]

Pete ... I confused. This is story I found on CNN


DOJ watchdog says James Comey broke FBI policy by keeping, leaking Trump meeting memos



Washington (CNN)Former FBI Director James Comey violated agency policies when he retained and leaked a set of memos he took documenting meetings with President Donald Trump early in 2017, the Justice Department's inspector general said in a report released Thursday. (http://www.cnn.com/2019/08/29/politics/ig-report-james-comey/index.html)

Comey set a "dangerous example" for FBI employees in an attempt to "achieve a personally desired outcome," the report states.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/29/politics/james-comey-ig-report/index.html



Guess we each find what we want to find in same article.

[pete311]

The point is that he won’t be prosecuted

[SassyLady]

The point is that he won’t be prosecuted

Oh, you mean, he wasn't exonerated.

[STTAB]

The point is that he won’t be prosecuted


He probably will not be, probably none of them will be. I said that months ago.

That doesn't change the fact that only a dishonest person would say that he and others should NOT be prosecuted.

[pete311]

He probably will not be, probably none of them will be. I said that months ago.

That doesn't change the fact that only a dishonest person would say that he and others should NOT be prosecuted.

When did I say that?

[High_Plains_Drifter]

The point is that he won’t be prosecuted
And letting a corrupt sons a bitch like Comey walk off without paying for his crimes makes you happy?

[STTAB]

When did I say that?
When did I say you said that Pete?

[jimnyc]

No surprise here in the slightest. Even a judge signed conviction and a person sitting in prison would be excused. :laugh: Ignore a few thousands posts on the issue and then suddenly all the crickets disappear and a voice of 'gotcha' appears.

Comey is guilty as hell of releasing confidential info, and to what extent we may never know.

[jimnyc]

It's obvious that he DID release confidential information but he has different reasoning to how and why. But hell, it's right in the stuff that he did release stuff, but only against FBI policy. But he's still NOT one to be trusted. There's very good reason as to why he was shitcanned.

Everything he did should have been beyond reproach while he was the head honcho, but that was far from the case. And where there's smoke... In other words, what couldn't they prove and what has he lied about?

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The DOJ Inspector General Releases 'Damning' Report on James Comey. Here’s What We Know

Moments ago, the Inspector General of the Department of Justice released its report on former FBI Director James Comey, "Report of Investigation of Former Federal Bureau of Investigation Director James Comey's Disclosure of Sensitive Investigative Information and Handling of Certain Memoranda"

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Upon completing our investigation, pursuant to Section 4(d) of the Inspector General Act of 1978, the OIG provided a copy of its factual findings to the Department for a prosecutorial decision regarding Comey's conduct. See 5 U.S.C.A. App. 3 § 4(d) (2016). After reviewing the matter, the Department declined prosecution. Thereafter, we prepared this report to consider whether Comey’s actions violated Department or FBI policy, or the terms of Comey’s FBI Employment Agreement. As described in this report, we conclude that Comey’s retention, handling, and dissemination of certain Memos violated Department and FBI policies, and his FBI Employment Agreement.
Page 4: Comey claimed the memos he leaked in retaliation for President Trump's firing of him were personal but "Merely labeling a document as 'personal' or 'private' does not alter the official nature of a document if it is 'used in the transaction of public business.'

— Mollie (@MZHemingway) August 29, 2019

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Comey told the OIG that he considered Memos 2 through 7 to be his personal documents, rather than official FBI records. He said he viewed these Memos as “a personal aide-mémoire,” “like [his] diary” or “like [his] notes,” which contained his “recollection[s]” of his conversations with President Trump. Comey further stated that he kept Memos 2, 4, 6, and 7 in a personal safe at home because he believed the documents were personal records rather than FBI records.

Comey's characterization of the Memos as personal records finds no support in the law and is wholly incompatible with the plain language of the statutes, regulations, and policies defining Federal records, and the terms of Comey's FBI Employment Agreement

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Comey's actions with respect to the Memos violated Department and FBI policies concerning the retention, handling, and dissemination of FBI records and information, and violated the requirements of Comey’s FBI Employment Agreement.

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Comey violated FBI policies and the requirements of his FBI Employment Agreement when he sent a copy of Memo 4 to Richman with instructions to provide the contents to a reporter, and when he transmitted copies of Memos 2, 4, 6, and a redacted version of 7 to his three attorneys.

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When asked by the OIG whether he considered that disclosure of this information would significantly affect FBI equities, Comey stated that he would “frame it differently.” He said he viewed the issue as one of “incredible importance to the Nation, as a whole” and told us he felt that taking action was “something I [had] to do if I love this country...and I love the Department of Justice, and I love the FBI.” However, Comey’s own, personal conception of what was necessary was not an appropriate basis for ignoring the policies and agreements governing the use of FBI records, especially given the other lawful and appropriate actions he could have taken to achieve his desired end.

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By providing Memos 2, 4, 6, and 7 to his attorneys without seeking FBI approval, Comey took for himself the “carte blanche authority” expressly denied by the courts, in clear violation of the FBI's Prepublication Review Policy and the requirements of Comey’s FBI Employment Agreement.

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The FBI did not learn that Comey had shared any of the Memos with anyone outside the FBI until Comey’s June 8, 2017 congressional testimony. During his testimony, Comey stated that he provided Memo 4 to a friend to share the contents with a reporter.

Rest - https://pjmedia.com/trending/the-doj-inspector-generals-report-on-james-comey-has-been-released/

[STTAB]

It's obvious that he DID release confidential information but he has different reasoning to how and why. But hell, it's right in the stuff that he did release stuff, but only against FBI policy. But he's still NOT one to be trusted. There's very good reason as to why he was shitcanned.

Everything he did should have been beyond reproach while he was the head honcho, but that was far from the case. And where there's smoke... In other words, what couldn't they prove and what has he lied about?

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The DOJ Inspector General Releases 'Damning' Report on James Comey. Here’s What We Know

Moments ago, the Inspector General of the Department of Justice released its report on former FBI Director James Comey, "Report of Investigation of Former Federal Bureau of Investigation Director James Comey's Disclosure of Sensitive Investigative Information and Handling of Certain Memoranda"

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Upon completing our investigation, pursuant to Section 4(d) of the Inspector General Act of 1978, the OIG provided a copy of its factual findings to the Department for a prosecutorial decision regarding Comey's conduct. See 5 U.S.C.A. App. 3 § 4(d) (2016). After reviewing the matter, the Department declined prosecution. Thereafter, we prepared this report to consider whether Comey’s actions violated Department or FBI policy, or the terms of Comey’s FBI Employment Agreement. As described in this report, we conclude that Comey’s retention, handling, and dissemination of certain Memos violated Department and FBI policies, and his FBI Employment Agreement.
Page 4: Comey claimed the memos he leaked in retaliation for President Trump's firing of him were personal but "Merely labeling a document as 'personal' or 'private' does not alter the official nature of a document if it is 'used in the transaction of public business.'

— Mollie (@MZHemingway) August 29, 2019

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Comey told the OIG that he considered Memos 2 through 7 to be his personal documents, rather than official FBI records. He said he viewed these Memos as “a personal aide-mémoire,” “like [his] diary” or “like [his] notes,” which contained his “recollection[s]” of his conversations with President Trump. Comey further stated that he kept Memos 2, 4, 6, and 7 in a personal safe at home because he believed the documents were personal records rather than FBI records.

Comey's characterization of the Memos as personal records finds no support in the law and is wholly incompatible with the plain language of the statutes, regulations, and policies defining Federal records, and the terms of Comey's FBI Employment Agreement

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Comey's actions with respect to the Memos violated Department and FBI policies concerning the retention, handling, and dissemination of FBI records and information, and violated the requirements of Comey’s FBI Employment Agreement.

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Comey violated FBI policies and the requirements of his FBI Employment Agreement when he sent a copy of Memo 4 to Richman with instructions to provide the contents to a reporter, and when he transmitted copies of Memos 2, 4, 6, and a redacted version of 7 to his three attorneys.

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When asked by the OIG whether he considered that disclosure of this information would significantly affect FBI equities, Comey stated that he would “frame it differently.” He said he viewed the issue as one of “incredible importance to the Nation, as a whole” and told us he felt that taking action was “something I [had] to do if I love this country...and I love the Department of Justice, and I love the FBI.” However, Comey’s own, personal conception of what was necessary was not an appropriate basis for ignoring the policies and agreements governing the use of FBI records, especially given the other lawful and appropriate actions he could have taken to achieve his desired end.

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By providing Memos 2, 4, 6, and 7 to his attorneys without seeking FBI approval, Comey took for himself the “carte blanche authority” expressly denied by the courts, in clear violation of the FBI's Prepublication Review Policy and the requirements of Comey’s FBI Employment Agreement.

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The FBI did not learn that Comey had shared any of the Memos with anyone outside the FBI until Comey’s June 8, 2017 congressional testimony. During his testimony, Comey stated that he provided Memo 4 to a friend to share the contents with a reporter.

Rest - https://pjmedia.com/trending/the-doj-inspector-generals-report-on-james-comey-has-been-released/


I posted on here months ago that I didn't believe that leaking those memos was illegal so I'm 100% okay with Comey not being prosecuted for that, but McCabe and Comey gave different versions of the same event to Congress, meaning one of them lied, someone most certainly should be prosecuted for that. Not to mention which one lied to the FBI (and it was probably both of them)

[jimnyc]

Another nice summary. And a link to the report highlighted, PDF format of course.


Comey Violated Department and FBI Policies Pertaining to the Retention, Handling, and Dissemination of FBI Records and Information

BREAKING!! DOJ Inspector General Releases James Comey Report!!

Link to Comey Report….. (https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2019/o1902.pdf)

The report is 83 pages long.


Conclusion….

Comey Violated Department and FBI Policies Pertaining to the Retention, Handling, and Dissemination of FBI Records and Information
OIG Analysis …………………………………………………………………………. 52
A. The Memos were FBI Records…………………………………………….. 52
B. Comey Violated Department and FBI Policies Pertaining to the
Retention, Handling, and Dissemination of FBI Records and
Information…………………………………………………………………… 54
1. Comey Failed to Return Memos 2, 4, 6, and 7 after Being
Removed as FBI Director ………………………………………….. 55
2. Comey Improperly Disclosed FBI Documents and Information 56
C. Comey Failed to Immediately Alert the FBI to the Unauthorized
Disclosure of Classified Information……………………………………… 59

VI. Conclusion
Congress has provided the FBI with substantial powers and authorities to gather evidence as part of the FBI’s criminal and counterintelligence mission. The FBI uses these authorities every day in its many investigations into allegations of drug trafficking, terrorism, fraud, organized crime, public corruption, espionage, and a host of other threats to national security and public safety. In the process, the FBI lawfully gains access to a significant amount of sensitive information about individuals, many of whom have not been charged, may never be charged, or may not even be a subject of the investigation. For this reason, the civil liberties of every individual who may fall within the scope of the FBI’s investigative authorities depend on the FBI’s ability to protect sensitive information from unauthorized disclosure.

As Comey himself explained in his March 20, 2017 testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, he was unable to provide details about the nature or scope of the FBI’s ongoing investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election because the FBI is very careful in how we handle information about our cases and about the people we are investigating…. Our ability to share details with the Congress and the American people is limited when those investigations are still open, which I hope makes sense. We need to protect people’s privacy…. We just cannot do our work well or fairly if we start talking about it while we’re doing it.


However, after his removal as FBI Director two months later, Comey provided a copy of Memo 4, which Comey had kept without authorization, to Richman with instructions to share the contents with a reporter for The New York Times. Memo 4 included information that was related to both the FBI’s ongoing investigation of Flynn and, by Comey’s own account, information that he believed and alleged constituted evidence of an attempt to obstruct the ongoing Flynn investigation; later that same day, The New York Times published an article about Memo 4 entitled, “Comey Memo Says Trump Asked Him to End Flynn Investigation.”

The responsibility to protect sensitive law enforcement information falls in large part to the employees of the FBI who have access to it through their daily duties. On occasion, some of these employees may disagree with decisions by prosecutors, judges, or higher ranking FBI and Department officials about the actions to take or not take in criminal and counterintelligence matters.

They may even, in some situations, distrust the legitimacy of those supervisory, prosecutorial, or judicial decisions. But even when these employees believe that their most strongly-held personal convictions might be served by an unauthorized disclosure, the FBI depends on them not to disclose sensitive information.

Former Director Comey failed to live up to this responsibility. By not safeguarding sensitive information obtained during the course of his FBI employment, and by using it to create public pressure for official action, Comey set a dangerous example for the over 35,000 current FBI employees—and the many thousands more former FBI employees—who similarly have access to or knowledge of non-public information. Comey said he was compelled to take these actions “if I love this country…and I love the Department of Justice, and I love the FBI.”

However, were current or former FBI employees to follow the former Director’s example and disclose sensitive information in service of their own strongly held personal convictions, the FBI would be unable to dispatch its law enforcement 60 duties properly, as Comey himself noted in his March 20, 2017 congressional testimony. Comey expressed a similar concern to President Trump, according to Memo 4, in discussing leaks of FBI information, telling Trump that the FBI’s ability to conduct its work is compromised “if people run around telling the press what we do.”

This is no doubt part of the reason why Comey’s closest advisors used the words “surprised,” “stunned,” “shocked,” and “disappointment” to describe their reactions to learning what Comey had done.

We have previously faulted Comey for acting unilaterally and inconsistent with Department policy.103 Comey’s unauthorized disclosure of sensitive law enforcement information about the Flynn investigation merits similar criticism. In a country built on the rule of law, it is of utmost importance that all FBI employees adhere to Department and FBI policies, particularly when confronted by what appear to be extraordinary circumstances or compelling personal convictions.

Comey had several other lawful options available to him to advocate for the appointment of a Special Counsel, which he told us was his goal in making the disclosure. What was not permitted was the unauthorized disclosure of sensitive investigative information, obtained during the course of FBI employment, in order to achieve a personally desired outcome.

The OIG has provided this report to the FBI and to the Department of Justice Office of Professional Responsibility for action they deem appropriate.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/08/breaking-doj-inspector-general-releases-james-comey-report/

[icansayit]

After laughingly reading your post below. (FROM CNN?) I am now fully convinced...you will never provide your graduation certificate from PRE-SCHOOL. So, how many more years must you attend before you get to wear your Cap and Gown without a DIAPER?

[STTAB]

After laughingly reading your post below. (FROM CNN?) I am now fully convinced...you will never provide your graduation certificate from PRE-SCHOOL. So, how many more years must you attend before you get to wear your Cap and Gown without a DIAPER?

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Damn bro, no need to be so hard on Jimmy :laugh:

[jimnyc]

I posted on here months ago that I didn't believe that leaking those memos was illegal so I'm 100% okay with Comey not being prosecuted for that, but McCabe and Comey gave different versions of the same event to Congress, meaning one of them lied, someone most certainly should be prosecuted for that. Not to mention which one lied to the FBI (and it was probably both of them)

Lots of things that are not illegal are still horrid, still fireable & what matters most - still bad for America. No one in the DOJ/CIA/FBI at all, let alone the director.

So yeah, perjury sucks and glad one will be held accountable there, looks like McCable for sure.

But "taking" documents, and then releasing to the press purposely? Obviously it doesn't pertain here, but everywhere I ever worked - whatever business you did on their time, belonged to them. In this case, they were his own personal memos which apparently didn't rise to the level of confidentiality that would be illegal. The law is the law. So if that's what they found, and found to be his own memos, even if about FBI subjects, then that's the law and no prosecution. With that said, I think it should be, I don't think any memos or work should leave and be disseminated to the press. And certainly not any type of retaliatory information. And retaining it for when he found it most useful. And that makes me believe he may have retained more, or certainly leaked more while in office. And without proof, a known leaker won't be coming forth with the things they did get away with. Obviously it's all no more than my opinion - but he feels he is deserved an apology, and I say go fuck yourself. :)

[STTAB]

Lots of things that are not illegal are still horrid, still fireable & what matters most - still bad for America. No one in the DOJ/CIA/FBI at all, let alone the director.

So yeah, perjury sucks and glad one will be held accountable there, looks like McCable for sure.

But "taking" documents, and then releasing to the press purposely? Obviously it doesn't pertain here, but everywhere I ever worked - whatever business you did on their time, belonged to them. In this case, they were his own personal memos which apparently didn't rise to the level of confidentiality that would be illegal. The law is the law. So if that's what they found, and found to be his own memos, even if about FBI subjects, then that's the law and no prosecution. With that said, I think it should be, I don't think any memos or work should leave and be disseminated to the press. And certainly not any type of retaliatory information. And retaining it for when he found it most useful. And that makes me believe he may have retained more, or certainly leaked more while in office. And without proof, a known leaker won't be coming forth with the things they did get away with. Obviously it's all no more than my opinion - but he feels he is deserved an apology, and I say go fuck yourself. :)


Oh don't get me wrong, I think Comey is a pile of shit, and I think he broke some laws, but I just never thought that giving those memos to a friend was illegal. That's all.

[pete311]

When did I say you said that Pete?

So then answer my original question precisely. How was I being dishonest?

[jimnyc]

Oh don't get me wrong, I think Comey is a pile of shit, and I think he broke some laws, but I just never thought that giving those memos to a friend was illegal. That's all.

I think laws perhaps need to be revisited if the shit Hillary did didn't warrant a prosecution, and Comey in total, but I'll trust the investigation from Barr. At least he works within the law. And then I see folks on the right that were held accountable for similar shit that they did. But while I think Comey was involved in much much more, and the future may hold that, as of now just BS retaining and purposely releasing them to try and harm another.

I think it all obviously goes much deeper anyway, and we'll see many people more coming up, and worse actions than Comey! I think HE created quite the stir in there in assisting in trying to prevent Trump from winning office. I think Brennan was doing similar. But yeah, that's how I feel, I think he broke laws, but apparently not what they wanted, and certainly not what they found.

[jimnyc]

The WH writes a scorching, but quite true response. Then a 2nd article, as to getting away with anything and potential for new charges.

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White House Issues Scathing Statement on Comey, Says He is a ‘Proven Liar and Leaker’

The White House has issued a scathing statement about disgraced FBI head James Comey, amid the Inspector General releasing a report saying he “set a dangerous example for the over 35,000 current FBI employees” by mishandling his memos, including classified information.

The statement began by asserting that “James Comey is a proven liar and leaker.”

[img[https://i.imgur.com/VXwF8dv.jpg[/img]

Despite the Inspector General determining that Comey violated FBI policies pertaining to retention, handling and dissemination of FBI records and information, Attorney General William Barr declined to prosecute him.

President Trump also responded to the report on Twitter, saying that Comey should be ashamed of himself.

“Perhaps never in the history of our Country has someone been more thoroughly disgraced and excoriated than James Comey in the just released Inspector General’s Report. He should be ashamed of himself!” Trump said in a tweet.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/08/white-house-issues-scathing-statement-on-comey-says-he-is-a-proven-liar-and-leaker/


Larry C. Johnson: Keep Your Powder Dry, Comey Is Not Out of the Woods Yet

There is no doubt that Jim Comey was part of a conspiracy to destroy Donald Trump and his Presidency. But all the evidence is not yet on the record. There is some understandable frustration reverberating around the web that Comey is not being indicted in the wake of the latest Inspector General report detailing Jim Comey’s inappropriate and unethical handling of Government material. But that is not the role of the Inspector General. It is up to DOJ to prosecute and a careful reading of the current report makes clear that there was not adequate foundation to get an indictment and prosecute.

However, ff you believe that Jim Comey is getting a pass and will get away with corrupt activity, let me suggest you are overreacting and that patience is warranted. Comey is not out of the woods.

My only previous experience with Bill Barr was the role he played in making sure that the two guys who planted the bomb on Pan Am 103 were prosecuted. Barr was a straight shooter and would not cut corners. I also am friends with a person who worked directly for him during that period. That person insists that Barr is not going to let Comey and Brennan and Clapper off the hook. But that person also has reminded me that Barr will do it by the book and do it fairly.

With that predicate, I want you to focus on the core of today’s Inspector General report. It is very simple and concise:


The focus of the OIG’s investigation was to determine whether Comey violated Department or FBI policies, or the terms of his FBI Employment Agreement, in his handling of the Memos during and after his tenure as FBI Director.

Memos 2 and 7 contained small amounts of information classified at the “CONFIDENTIAL” level. The FBI designated Memos 4, 5, and 6 as unclassified, “For Official Use Only.”

Comey was removed as FBI Director on May 9, 2017, Comey still had copies of Memos 2, 4, 6, and 7 in his personal safe at home.

[t]he Inspector General Act of 1978, the OIG provided a copy of [these] factual findings to the Department for a prosecutorial decision regarding Comey’s conduct. . . After reviewing the matter, the Department declined prosecution.

As described in this report, we conclude that Comey’s retention, handling, and dissemination of certain Memos violated Department and FBI policies, and his FBI Employment Agreement.

Rest - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/08/larry-c-johnson-keep-your-powder-dry-comey-is-not-out-of-the-woods-yet/

[icansayit]

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Damn bro, no need to be so hard on Jimmy :laugh:


Default READ: IG report on James Comey memos
DOJ IG "found no evidence that Comey or his attorneys released any of the classified information contained in any of the memos to members of the media."
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/29/p...t-james-comey/

[High_Plains_Drifter]

So little Pete never answered my question... "do you think if Comey walks and doesn't pay for his crimes, that's a good thing?"

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@pete311 (http://www.debatepolicy.com/member.php?u=1821)

[Elessar]

When did I say that?

You infer that when confronted with contrary reports.

Remember, you said you would abide by the Meuller investigation....that until
the whole collision dream of yours came crashing down.

You are a fake liberal hack.

[Elessar]

I posted on here months ago that I didn't believe that leaking those memos was illegal so I'm 100% okay with Comey not being prosecuted for that, but McCabe and Comey gave different versions of the same event to Congress, meaning one of them lied, someone most certainly should be prosecuted for that. Not to mention which one lied to the FBI (and it was probably both of them)

They both did. Cards are on the table

[Elessar]

So little Pete never answered my question... "do you think if Comey walks and doesn't pay for his crimes, that's a good thing?"

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@pete311 (http://www.debatepolicy.com/member.php?u=1821)

He won't. He will crawl back into his basement and wait for another overblown accusation.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

He won't. He will crawl back into his basement and wait for another overblown accusation.
He's so TYPICAL of DEMOCRATS it's pathetic. They like to throw out their BS and then NEVER back it up... EVER. FACTS are something they AVOID like the PLAGUE.

I'd be embarrassed to high heaven to call myself a democrat. These people are freakin' MORONS.

[Elessar]

When did I say that?
You are not too bright. Cannot even defend your own gaffes, yet assault other members.
Crawl into your basement safe place, idiot.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

You are not too bright. Cannot even defend your own gaffes, yet assault other members.
Crawl into your basement safe place, idiot.
Yeah it's hard to even recall all the times he's totally SHIT on the board veterans.

What a POS.

[pete311]

So little Pete never answered my question... "do you think if Comey walks and doesn't pay for his crimes, that's a good thing?"

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@pete311 (http://www.debatepolicy.com/member.php?u=1821)

Violating DOJ policy is not a crime. I thought the IG report made that pretty clear.

[Elessar]

Violating DOJ policy is not a crime. I thought the IG report made that pretty clear.

You would have to have carried a security clearance to understand that unauthorized release of
classified documents, memo's, or access to secure systems are ALL CRIMES. Policy is legally
binding.

You are in over your head again, Pete.

[jimnyc]

He very well may not have been proven to have broken laws just yet, and in some opinions it has been proven. But again, things aren't over yet.

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The Comey-Brennan Conspiracy to Violate Trump’s Civil Rights

Last week’s publication of the Justice Department Inspector General’s report on former FBI director James Comey basically found that he was the leaking, sneaky weasel that he promised President Trump he wouldn’t be.

Comey claims that he’s been cleared and is demanding an apology. Some conservatives are disheartened that the IG’s findings didn’t result in a Justice Department decision to prosecute Comey.

Former U.S. attorney Joe diGenova, meanwhile, has said categorically that the IG’s report investigating the FBI’s actions in obtaining Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrants during the “Russia collusion” investigation concludes that all four of the warrants obtained against one-time Trump advisor Carter Page were obtained “illegally.”

Not in violation of regulations or procedures: in violation of the law. That should result in prosecutions and probably jail time for the wrongdoers, but it won’t necessarily.

The IG investigations are a sideshow. The real investigation, being conducted by John Durham, the U.S. Attorney for the District of Connecticut, will be the one that decides who to indict and will obtain those indictments from one or more grand juries convened for that purpose.

The Comey IG report is interesting for any number of reasons, the first of which is that the Justice Department decided not to prosecute Comey for his intentionally leaking one of his “private” memos about conversations with President Trump to a friend. He did so, as we’ve known for two years, specifically to have that friend leak it to the New York Times for publication. Comey intended those leaks to have precisely the effect they did: to cause the appointment of a special counsel.

Robert Mueller’s subsequent investigation into the ephemeral “Russia collusion” investigation failed in what Comey — and the rest of the anti-Trumpers in the Justice Department and the CIA — intended it to do. It didn’t remove Trump from office in a “soft” coup.

The report demonstrated that Comey serially lied, violated FBI and Justice Department rules and policies, and leaked documents all in his effort to defeat Donald Trump’s candidacy and then stymie Trump’s presidency. It proved a hundredfold that Trump was entirely justified in firing Comey.

The reason Comey wasn’t prosecuted was that the FBI determined that the memo(s) he leaked weren’t classified.

And who made that judgment? Four people did, according to the IG report. Among the four were the disgraced duo: then-FBI agent Peter Strzok (fired) and his girlfriend, FBI lawyer Lisa Page (resigned). Both proved themselves to be stridently anti-Trump in thousands of text messages between them.

In light of the Strzok/Page involvement in that decision, why didn’t the IG make its separate judgment on whether the Comey memos should have been classified?

Rest - https://spectator.org/the-comey-brennan-conspiracy-to-violate-trumps-civil-rights/

[jimnyc]

The talk is getting louder. I hope that means folks are being more aggressive, and that maybe even someone knows more than we do. Either way, he's clearly not done.

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Devin Nunes: ‘Evidence Is There’ for U.S. Attorney to Bring Criminal Conspiracy Charges Against James Comey

Rep. Devin Nunes (R-CA), the ranking member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, told Breitbart News in an exclusive interview on Sunday evening that the Department of Justice (DOJ) Inspector General (IG) report on former FBI director James Comey, and the DOJ’s decision not to press charge, does not mean he is out of the woods.

Nunes said that Comey, who President Donald Trump fired as FBI director in the first few months of his presidency sparking the launch of the now-completed Special Counsel investigation, could still face charges on a criminal conspiracy from the U.S. Attorney in Connecticut.

Last week, the DOJ’s IG admonished Comey for preparing memos containing classified information, then leaking them to create a desired outcome—something that ended up costing the taxpayers millions of dollars with Robert Mueller’s Special Counsel probe which ultimately found no collusion between President Trump and his campaign with Russian efforts to interfere in the 2016 election. Mueller’s probe also found no evidence of obstruction of justice by President Trump. But even though Comey’s actions were sharply criticized by the IG, the DOJ decided not to prosecute him on the leaks and IG findings. Comey gloated in response, asking publicly for an apology from those who have suggested he may have committed crimes in his actions against the president.

But that gloating from Comey may be premature. Nunes said in his exclusive interview on Breitbart News Sunday on SiriusXM 125 the Patriot Channel that despite the DOJ’s decision not to bring charges against Comey now, if the U.S. Attorney in Connecticut—who has been charged with investigating the origins of the Russia hoax investigation—follows a criminal referral made by House Intelligence Committee Republicans on the lines of a criminal conspiracy, Comey could face charges in that lane.

“I always remind people that the Inspector General does not have a lot of power because they cannot—they don’t have subpoena power,” Nunes said. “They can only interview people who work for the actual agency, unless people will voluntarily be interviewed, which is not likely. So, I think the Inspector General did us a favor here because the House Intelligence Committee Republicans—we sent over referrals to the Department of Justice based on conspiracy. So now there is no question, one thing the Inspector General made clear by all the interviews and evidence that he gathered is that Comey is definitely part of the conspiracy.”

Nunes continued by noting that Comey was not cooperative with congressional investigators digging into his leaking.

“You know, when Comey came before the Congress last year when Republicans controlled it, he refused to answer,” Nunes said. “For a guy that pontificates on Twitter and that wrote a book and goes on the news quite often, quite frequently, when it got behind closed doors and he had to tell the truth, his number one answer was, ‘Oh, I just don’t remember that’ or ‘I don’t recall.’”

Nunes then said that Comey, thanks to the IG’s findings, is “eligible for a larger conspiracy charge” and said that “we need real charges brought.” He said the place to watch for such potential charges against Comey or others to come from is the U.S. Attorney from Connecticut.

“So this is a guy who is definitely not telling the truth, and the good thing about the IG report is he’s now made himself, the IG has now made him eligible for a larger conspiracy charge—a criminal conspiracy charge—which is what we really hope the attorney general [U.S. attorney] out of Connecticut is able to do,” Nunes said. “That’s the big thing that we need. We need real charges brought. And I think a lot of people are frustrated because they feel like Comey leaked classified information. But the question is would a panel of jurors in Washington, D.C., [convict]? There would be so much ambiguity because he claims—I forget the exact numbers, but like 1, 4, and 7 contained classified information but those weren’t the memos that he gave to his professor friend that went to the media. It would be almost impossible to prove and he would probably skate. And probably the worst thing to happen would be for him to skate. So I think that in the end, the Attorney General made the right decision as long as they continue to press on the larger issue which is: How did this whole investigation begin in the first place with zero evidence, zero evidence that Trump had any involvement with Russia?”

When asked in a follow-up if this means he expects the U.S. Attorney from Connecticut to bring criminal conspiracy charges against Comey or others, Nunes said he is not sure what the U.S. Attorney will do. But he did say “the evidence is there” for criminal conspiracy charges against the former FBI director and others involved in fabricating the Russia hoax.

“I’ve been very careful,” Nunes said. “I shouldn’t be this way, but I like to give people the benefit of the doubt and I like to not name names until there’s been a fair process and we’ve given the U.S. Attorney time to do his work. However, with that said, the one thing that is clear is if the U.S. Attorney decides to take our complaint—I’m not saying he’s going to do exactly what we’ve asked him to do but he’s clearly looking at all this. If he looks at conspiracy, on the FISA courts and the manipulation of intelligence for political purposes, it is now impossible—there is so much evidence that puts Comey right in the middle of this—so that’s my point. If they’re going to go down that road, Comey has got to be involved in it. The evidence is there.”

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/09/02/exclusive-devin-nunes-evidence-is-there-for-u-s-attorney-to-bring-criminal-conspiracy-charges-against-james-comey/

[jimnyc]

Giuliani: James Comey ‘Orchestrated’ the Entire Mueller Investigation

Former FBI Director James Comey essentially “orchestrated” the entire Mueller investigation, Rudy Giuliani said during an appearance on The Cats Roundtable radio program Sunday.

The former New York City mayor told host John Catsimatidis that the disgraced FBI director was attempting to “frame” the president and “orchestrated” the entire probe — echoing the sentiment from Peter Strzok’s infamous “insurance policy” text.

“He orchestrated the whole thing,” Giuliani said. “If you look back on it now, there was never any need for Mueller”:

Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/09/02/giuliani-james-comey-orchestrated-the-entire-mueller-investigation/

[pete311]

You would have to have carried a security clearance to understand that unauthorized release of
classified documents, memo's, or access to secure systems are ALL CRIMES. Policy is legally
binding.

You are in over your head again, Pete.

Tell that to Trump's DOJ which in the IG report refutes your statement.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

Tell that to Trump's DOJ which in the IG report refutes your statement.
Evidently you went completely blind between your last post and this one here - - - ^^^ - - - and missed the last 3 posts by Jim entirely.

This isn't about JUST the DOJ, and it's been made perfectly clear that IG report has little to NOTHING to do with Comey being charged with a crime, which he clearly HAS committed, by deceiving the FISA court for one, but in the larger picture, when you add it all up, it's CONSPIRACY, and I do believe he will hang. He's guilty as sin.

I hope you can deal with it.

[STTAB]

The talk is getting louder. I hope that means folks are being more aggressive, and that maybe even someone knows more than we do. Either way, he's clearly not done.

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Devin Nunes: ‘Evidence Is There’ for U.S. Attorney to Bring Criminal Conspiracy Charges Against James Comey

Rep. Devin Nunes (R-CA), the ranking member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, told Breitbart News in an exclusive interview on Sunday evening that the Department of Justice (DOJ) Inspector General (IG) report on former FBI director James Comey, and the DOJ’s decision not to press charge, does not mean he is out of the woods.

Nunes said that Comey, who President Donald Trump fired as FBI director in the first few months of his presidency sparking the launch of the now-completed Special Counsel investigation, could still face charges on a criminal conspiracy from the U.S. Attorney in Connecticut.

Last week, the DOJ’s IG admonished Comey for preparing memos containing classified information, then leaking them to create a desired outcome—something that ended up costing the taxpayers millions of dollars with Robert Mueller’s Special Counsel probe which ultimately found no collusion between President Trump and his campaign with Russian efforts to interfere in the 2016 election. Mueller’s probe also found no evidence of obstruction of justice by President Trump. But even though Comey’s actions were sharply criticized by the IG, the DOJ decided not to prosecute him on the leaks and IG findings. Comey gloated in response, asking publicly for an apology from those who have suggested he may have committed crimes in his actions against the president.

But that gloating from Comey may be premature. Nunes said in his exclusive interview on Breitbart News Sunday on SiriusXM 125 the Patriot Channel that despite the DOJ’s decision not to bring charges against Comey now, if the U.S. Attorney in Connecticut—who has been charged with investigating the origins of the Russia hoax investigation—follows a criminal referral made by House Intelligence Committee Republicans on the lines of a criminal conspiracy, Comey could face charges in that lane.

“I always remind people that the Inspector General does not have a lot of power because they cannot—they don’t have subpoena power,” Nunes said. “They can only interview people who work for the actual agency, unless people will voluntarily be interviewed, which is not likely. So, I think the Inspector General did us a favor here because the House Intelligence Committee Republicans—we sent over referrals to the Department of Justice based on conspiracy. So now there is no question, one thing the Inspector General made clear by all the interviews and evidence that he gathered is that Comey is definitely part of the conspiracy.”

Nunes continued by noting that Comey was not cooperative with congressional investigators digging into his leaking.

“You know, when Comey came before the Congress last year when Republicans controlled it, he refused to answer,” Nunes said. “For a guy that pontificates on Twitter and that wrote a book and goes on the news quite often, quite frequently, when it got behind closed doors and he had to tell the truth, his number one answer was, ‘Oh, I just don’t remember that’ or ‘I don’t recall.’”

Nunes then said that Comey, thanks to the IG’s findings, is “eligible for a larger conspiracy charge” and said that “we need real charges brought.” He said the place to watch for such potential charges against Comey or others to come from is the U.S. Attorney from Connecticut.

“So this is a guy who is definitely not telling the truth, and the good thing about the IG report is he’s now made himself, the IG has now made him eligible for a larger conspiracy charge—a criminal conspiracy charge—which is what we really hope the attorney general [U.S. attorney] out of Connecticut is able to do,” Nunes said. “That’s the big thing that we need. We need real charges brought. And I think a lot of people are frustrated because they feel like Comey leaked classified information. But the question is would a panel of jurors in Washington, D.C., [convict]? There would be so much ambiguity because he claims—I forget the exact numbers, but like 1, 4, and 7 contained classified information but those weren’t the memos that he gave to his professor friend that went to the media. It would be almost impossible to prove and he would probably skate. And probably the worst thing to happen would be for him to skate. So I think that in the end, the Attorney General made the right decision as long as they continue to press on the larger issue which is: How did this whole investigation begin in the first place with zero evidence, zero evidence that Trump had any involvement with Russia?”

When asked in a follow-up if this means he expects the U.S. Attorney from Connecticut to bring criminal conspiracy charges against Comey or others, Nunes said he is not sure what the U.S. Attorney will do. But he did say “the evidence is there” for criminal conspiracy charges against the former FBI director and others involved in fabricating the Russia hoax.

“I’ve been very careful,” Nunes said. “I shouldn’t be this way, but I like to give people the benefit of the doubt and I like to not name names until there’s been a fair process and we’ve given the U.S. Attorney time to do his work. However, with that said, the one thing that is clear is if the U.S. Attorney decides to take our complaint—I’m not saying he’s going to do exactly what we’ve asked him to do but he’s clearly looking at all this. If he looks at conspiracy, on the FISA courts and the manipulation of intelligence for political purposes, it is now impossible—there is so much evidence that puts Comey right in the middle of this—so that’s my point. If they’re going to go down that road, Comey has got to be involved in it. The evidence is there.”

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/09/02/exclusive-devin-nunes-evidence-is-there-for-u-s-attorney-to-bring-criminal-conspiracy-charges-against-james-comey/

I think far more people were in on it than we'll ever know. Shit, I'd like to see RICO charges brought against the DNC itself.

[icansayit]

Tell that to Trump's DOJ which in the IG report refutes your statement.

You talk here with about as much experience, and intelligence as AOC. Your comprehension problems are getting much worse. Time to take another dose of DNC Trump Derangement Syndrome, Cesspool Water (labeled Liberal Kool-aid).

[Elessar]

Tell that to Trump's DOJ which in the IG report refutes your statement.

How high of a Federal Level Security Classification do you carry, Smart - ass?

Mine was at Secret , and Top Secret. They stay with you for life, whether used or not.

What are yours, Internet "Expert"?

[pete311]

How high of a Federal Level Security Classification do you carry, Smart - ass?

Mine was at Secret , and Top Secret. They stay with you for life, whether used or not.

What are yours, Internet "Expert"?

Why are we debating my credentials? I didn't write the DOJ report or made it's conclusions.

[Elessar]

Why are we debating my credentials? I didn't write the DOJ report or made it's conclusions.

Because you are questioning and insulting people that know the mandated security regulations,
as if you are an expert.

Your credentials in this instance are meaningless, which I am challenging you to show
us how much more experience you have than us who carry classifications.

But you cannot do that. So your insults and whining are shitty.

[pete311]

Because you are questioning and insulting people that know the mandated security regulations,
as if you are an expert.

Your credentials in this instance are meaningless, which I am challenging you to show
us how much more experience you have than us who carry classifications.

But you cannot do that. So your insults and whining are shitty.

Huh? All I'm doing to repeating the IG report conclusions. You got a problem with it or think you know more than them, file a complaint.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

Huh? All I'm doing to repeating the IG report conclusions. You got a problem with it or think you know more than them, file a complaint.
Quit yur crying and whining ya little pathetic baby. All you ever do here is stink up the board with your moronic, half wit, brain washed, leftist bull shit.

Get a fucking life for Christ sake, and get your head out of your ass.

[pete311]

Quit yur crying and whining ya little pathetic baby. All you ever do here is stink up the board with your moronic, half wit, brain washed, leftist bull shit.

Get a fucking life for Christ sake, and get your head out of your ass.

Love you too Drift! :cool:

[High_Plains_Drifter]

Love you too Drift! :cool:
Ya... I knew you just felt a little SPUNKY today and wanted to roll out some SMACK... :slap: ... :laugh: