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Kathianne
08-15-2019, 01:33 PM
SMH

https://hotair.com/archives/jazz-shaw/2019/08/15/hoo-boy-uk-gender-stereotype-rules-running/


Hoo Boy. The UK “Gender Stereotype” Rules Are Up And Running
JAZZ SHAWPosted at 10:31 am on August 15, 2019

Following complaints from the public over the past couple of years, the UK Advertising Standards Agency (ASA) has implemented new rules for television and print advertising. The purpose of these regulations is to eliminate “harmful gender stereotyping” in ads. If that phrase leaves you scratching your head, don’t worry. You’re not alone.

In any event, the first two “harmful” ads have been banned from the airwaves. They were from Volkswagen and Philadelphia cream cheese. So what were they depicting? Child abuse? Violence against women? Racism? Nope. One was a shot of a woman sitting in the park next to a baby stroller and the other showed two dads acting dumb in a restaurant. (CNN)


An advertisement juxtaposing male astronauts with a woman sitting by a stroller, and another depicting two hapless dads, are the first casualties of a British ban on gender stereotypes in advertising.




The ads, for Volkswagen and Philadelphia cream cheese, were investigated by the UK Advertising Standards Agency (ASA) after viewers complained they perpetuated gender stereotypes.

New rules that came into force in June prohibit depictions of gender that “are likely to cause harm, or serious or widespread offense.”




The Volkswagen commercial shows a number of primarily male people taking part in adventurous activities — two male astronauts in space, and a male athlete with a prosthetic leg doing the long jump — before cutting to a mother sitting on a park bench next to a stroller. It prompted three complaints from viewers, and the ASA found it showed a woman “engaged in a stereotypical care-giving role.”

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STTAB
08-15-2019, 02:02 PM
Good, because the last thing we need in this world is acknowledgement that the sexes are different and have different strengthens and weaknesses.

STTAB
08-15-2019, 02:15 PM
Hey Kath, how do you feel about male teachers in elementary grades? I ask because I'm not a fan. I've never voted to hire a male as a member of the school board . I just think females are better suited to nurturing young minds.

Kathianne
08-15-2019, 02:21 PM
Hey Kath, how do you feel about male teachers in elementary grades? I ask because I'm not a fan. I've never voted to hire a male as a member of the school board . I just think females are better suited to nurturing young minds.

If a male has their elementary ed degree and his background check comes back clear, I would consider him the same as any female. There are men that are nurturing and really like teaching small kids. I have to say though, I've not come across any I've taught with below grade 5. It could be discrimination as any male that considers lower elem his calling is automatically considered a pedophile.

Yet, there's many more females that have abused their students and tend to receive many fewer prison years, sometimes just loss of license and registering as sex offender.

STTAB
08-15-2019, 02:33 PM
If a male has their elementary ed degree and his background check comes back clear, I would consider him the same as any female. There are men that are nurturing and really like teaching small kids. I have to say though, I've not come across any I've taught with below grade 5. It could be discrimination as any male that considers lower elem his calling is automatically considered a pedophile.

Yet, there's many more females that have abused their students and tend to receive many fewer prison years, sometimes just loss of license and registering as sex offender.

Honestly "he might be a pedophile" has never crossed my mind. And we have hired a few male teaches over my objections over the years, and I'm not saying every woman is suited to teach elementary school either, hell I think there are a LOT of women teaching who have no business doing so. But in general I stand by my belief that women make better elementary teachers than men.

I also believe men are better high school math and science teachers in general than women.

Among other areas where I think each sex has strengths and weaknesses that should be accounted for.

High_Plains_Drifter
08-15-2019, 02:43 PM
SMH

https://hotair.com/archives/jazz-shaw/2019/08/15/hoo-boy-uk-gender-stereotype-rules-running/
How do people get to this degree of POLITICALLY CORRECT STUPIDITY?

I honestly don't know what it is that drives someone to get so MORONIC. This is STUPID, it's ABSURD, it's RETARDED.

Where does it even end?

I think this is a SMALL MINORITY that drives this GARBAGE too. This just CAN'T be the way the MAJORITY of people think... or is it?

Kathianne
08-15-2019, 02:45 PM
Honestly "he might be a pedophile" has never crossed my mind. And we have hired a few male teaches over my objections over the years, and I'm not saying every woman is suited to teach elementary school either, hell I think there are a LOT of women teaching who have no business doing so. But in general I stand by my belief that women make better elementary teachers than men.

I also believe men are better high school math and science teachers in general than women.

Among other areas where I think each sex has strengths and weaknesses that should be accounted for.

We disagree in regards to hiring. If a man is the best qualified and has the credentials I'd hire him-especially 3 grade and up. Why? So many boys do not have the male influences that most kids in my generation did. It can make a world of difference to any kid without a dad, but especially those whose families are going through divorce. (Which tends to begin around 2nd-3rd grades for 1st borns).

Same with females in upper grades for math & science-if they have the credentials and seem to have passion for their subject I'd hire the best qualified.

Kathianne
08-15-2019, 02:46 PM
How do people get to this degree of POLITICALLY CORRECT STUPIDITY?

I honestly don't know what it is that drives someone to get so MORONIC. This is STUPID, it's ABSURD, it's RETARDED.

Where does it even end?

I think this is a SMALL MINORITY that drives this GARBAGE too. This just CAN'T be the way the MAJORITY of people think... or is it?

THREE, 3 complaints is what they had! Insanity.

STTAB
08-15-2019, 02:59 PM
We disagree in regards to hiring. If a man is the best qualified and has the credentials I'd hire him-especially 3 grade and up. Why? So many boys do not have the male influences that most kids in my generation did. It can make a world of difference to any kid without a dad, but especially those whose families are going through divorce. (Which tends to begin around 2nd-3rd grades for 1st borns).

Same with females in upper grades for math & science-if they have the credentials and seem to have passion for their subject I'd hire the best qualified.

I definately acknowledge that some weight should be given to young children needing male role models.

SassyLady
08-16-2019, 01:04 PM
Honestly "he might be a pedophile" has never crossed my mind. And we have hired a few male teaches over my objections over the years, and I'm not saying every woman is suited to teach elementary school either, hell I think there are a LOT of women teaching who have no business doing so. But in general I stand by my belief that women make better elementary teachers than men.

I also believe men are better high school math and science teachers in general than women.

Among other areas where I think each sex has strengths and weaknesses that should be accounted for.

My 5th and 6th grade teachers were male. It was a godsend for me. I had no positive male role models in my life at the time and both of them were awesome in the way they dealt with both male and female students.

STTAB
08-16-2019, 01:37 PM
My 5th and 6th grade teachers were male. It was a godsend for me. I had no positive male role models in my life at the time and both of them were awesome in the way they dealt with both male and female students.

I agree young children need positive adult male role models in their lives, I just don't think elementary school teacher is where they should find them. I'm not even saying that all male elementary school teachers are bad, hell I'm not even saying there aren't good oes. I'm just saying that in general I prefer female teachers in the elementary grades.

High_Plains_Drifter
08-18-2019, 10:49 AM
I think the European continent has a mental illness problem.

I also wonder how it is their new radical muslim faction tolerates all this openly in your face sexual perversion garbage? Muslims like to throw fags off roof tops.

SassyLady
08-18-2019, 06:51 PM
I agree young children need positive adult male role models in their lives, I just don't think elementary school teacher is where they should find them. I'm not even saying that all male elementary school teachers are bad, hell I'm not even saying there aren't good oes. I'm just saying that in general I prefer female teachers in the elementary grades.

I disagree. Role models in elementary school may be the only other source other than parents at that age.

If board members and hiring panels do their job right then gender of elementary teachers is not relevant. Good teachers should love kids and teaching and have good set of morals. These attributes are found in both genders.

STTAB
08-19-2019, 09:58 AM
I disagree. Role models in elementary school may be the only other source other than parents at that age.

If board members and hiring panels do their job right then gender of elementary teachers is not relevant. Good teachers should love kids and teaching and have good set of morals. These attributes are found in both genders.

That's not true at all. We have coaches and police officers, and school admins, heck we even have a male nurse in our upper elementary school. Bus drivers, etc etc.

Also, I'm not entirely convinced that "role model" is even a job teachers want, let alone should it be a hiring factor. For example, should we start combing through social media of prospective teachers to determine whether they would make good role models or not before hiring them?

SassyLady
08-20-2019, 11:16 AM
That's not true at all. We have coaches and police officers, and school admins, heck we even have a male nurse in our upper elementary school. Bus drivers, etc etc.

Also, I'm not entirely convinced that "role model" is even a job teachers want, let alone should it be a hiring factor. For example, should we start combing through social media of prospective teachers to determine whether they would make good role models or not before hiring them?

As a child I didn't see coaches, LEO, nurses, etc. every day. I saw my teacher 5 days a week for 9 months a year and if lucky in summer school. Actually saw them more than parents who worked and spent free time at local bar, so I think teachers are the front line of role models which is why hiring the right one is paramount.

And, yes, do a deep background check on every one of them. I assumed that was already being done.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
08-20-2019, 12:11 PM
We disagree in regards to hiring. If a man is the best qualified and has the credentials I'd hire him-especially 3 grade and up. Why? So many boys do not have the male influences that most kids in my generation did. It can make a world of difference to any kid without a dad, but especially those whose families are going through divorce. (Which tends to begin around 2nd-3rd grades for 1st borns).

Same with females in upper grades for math & science-if they have the credentials and seem to have passion for their subject I'd hire the best qualified.

Many of my teacher were a godsend to me. This was 40 and fifty years ago.
What they gave me, I can not put a price on. I should have went the career path
that many of them begged me to Take,
but my rebellious spirit, want for adventure, deeply ingrained rage streak and immense wildness after father's death set me upon a different course.
None of that takes away from the greatness and irreplaceable treasures those teachers so freely, and with such great kindness and so benevolently
bestowed upon this poor but very, very eager to learn young student....
I have such great respect for teachers-- for those that fit that role with honor, kindness, generosity, adeptness and pride in their hearts and souls!
Grades first through eighth are especially important in regards to giving to students in need of moral guidance, self-esteem and a voice telling them, this world will have to be faced with heart, knowledge, bravery, empathy and a host of other positive attributes if one expects to do well, be happy and live a better life....
And yes some such great and beloved, kind and dedicated teachers still exist and teach today--but these many decades later , their numbers are infinitely smaller, methinks.. A very sad reality, IMHO...-Tyr

Kathianne
08-20-2019, 12:21 PM
Many of my teacher were a godsend to me. This was 40 and fifty years ago.
What they gave me, I can not put a price on. I should have went the career path
that many of them begged me to rake,
but my rebellious spirit, want for adventure, deeply ingrained rage streak and immense wildness after father's death set me upon a different course.
None of that takes away from the greatness and irreplaceable treasures those teachers so freely, and with such great kindness and so benevolently
bestowed upon this poor but very, very eager to learn young student....
I have such great respect for teachers-- for those that fit that role with honor, kindness, generosity, adeptness and pride in their hearts and souls!
Grades first through eight are especially important in regards to giving to students in need of moral guidance, self-esteem and a voice telling them, this world will have to be faced with heart, knowledge, bravery, empathy and a host of other positive attributes if one expects to do well, be happy and live a better life....
And yes some such great and beloved , kind and dedicated teachers still exist and teach today--but these many decades later , their numbers are infinitely smaller, methinks.. A very sad reality, IMHO...-Tyr

I must say that most of the younger teachers I've known are goodhearted people that love kids and want to do a good job. Their education though, like those they are now teaching was of less depth than schools delivered when I was going through. Then again, my folks did not think that we were learning as much through high school as they had up through 8th grade.

It does seem to me that 'older' teachers-those over 50, want to teach their subjects, not try to be parents or social justice instillers. The younger teachers and the 'younger' the stronger the desire, is to 'form attitudes' in the students-seriously justice warrior stuff. There have been times that the parents pick up enough to make complaints to the district office and sometimes an edict comes down to cool it. Truth is, the district administrators are MS or PhD in 'education' and bottom line are social justice warriors themselves, as that is what the university education departments churn out.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
08-20-2019, 12:40 PM
I must say that most of the younger teachers I've known are goodhearted people that love kids and want to do a good job. Their education though, like those they are now teaching was of less depth than schools delivered when I was going through. Then again, my folks did not think that we were learning as much through high school as they had up through 8th grade.

It does seem to me that 'older' teachers-those over 50, want to teach their subjects, not try to be parents or social justice instillers. The younger teachers and the 'younger' the stronger the desire, is to 'form attitudes' in the students-seriously justice warrior stuff. There have been times that the parents pick up enough to make complaints to the district office and sometimes an edict comes down to cool it. Truth is, the district administrators are MS or PhD in 'education' and bottom line are social justice warriors themselves, as that is what the university education departments churn out.

For me the sad part is that some teachers today want to teach their personal political views(oft their personal immorality too) -as fact, as the path to take -- to young students.
And much of that comes from their own university indoctrination, IMHO.
The truth is a parent should be aware of what teachers are teaching their child and if its fits the form of egregious indoctrination into a leftist/socialist ideology- that parent should raise hell against it-unless that parent agrees with it.
The reality that the public education system and the Feds seem to think they own our children and we are to be part-time, low-grade caretakers
has now spread to a very alarming level.
And those in upper control, despite their, MS or PhD in 'education' -Have not the right to countermand parents rights in regards to certain moral, religious and character forming standards preset by the birth parents. Of course, it is also very true that a very delicate balance must be adhered to should the teacher also try to instill positive attributes/morality/sensibility in the child if the parents do not give such or even care.
A very sticky wicket to be sure that path, but one many of my own teachers took and for that I have an undying gratitude and immensely bountiful admiration of and for.
As I saw kids that were in far greater need than I, benefit tremendously from it.. -Tyr

STTAB
08-20-2019, 12:58 PM
For me the sad part is that some teachers today want to teach their personal political views(oft their personal immorality too) -as fact, as the path to take -- to young students.
And much of that comes from their own university indoctrination, IMHO.
The truth is a parent should be aware of what teachers are teaching their child and if its fits the form of egregious indoctrination into a leftist/socialist ideology- that parent should raise hell against it-unless that parent agrees with it.
The reality that the public education system and the Feds seem to think they own our children and we are to be part-time, low-grade caretakers
has now spread to a very alarming level.
And those in upper control, despite their, MS or PhD in 'education' -Have not the right to countermand parents rights in regards to certain moral, religious and character forming standards preset by the birth parents. Of course, it is also very true that a very delicate balance must be adhered to should the teacher also try to instill positive attributes/morality/sensibility in the child if the parents do not give such or even care.
A very sticky wicket to be sure that path, but one many of my own teachers took and for that I have an undying gratitude and immensely bountiful admiration of and for.
As I saw kids that were in far greater need than I, benefit tremendously from it.. -Tyr

To be fair , there are a lot of shitty parents out there who need someone else making decisions for them.

First day of school this year we had a situation with a freshman girl wearing essentially a see through top with no bra. She was called into the office shown the dress code that her parents signed acknowledging they had seen it and agreed to make sure their children were dressed appropriately and told she could change if she had other outfits with her or call for a ride home.

Her mother was called and refused to come get her daughter literally screaming at the principle " I saw what my daughter had on and I don't care about your rules, it's my choice whether to let her wear it or not, not yours. Now pictures were taken as evidence and every member of the school board has seen them and let's just say if I ever wondered what 14 year old titties looked like, I now know. Her top left ZERO to the imagination, it wasn't even a close call in regards to the dress code.

The school resource officer (one of our female ones) took the young woman home to change and the mom was there and just flew into a rage again to a god damned cop.

At that point the officer said it was actually the daughter being the adult and telling her mom to calm down she would just go chqange

What do you with a parent like that? Does the school not need to step in and say "no ma'am you can't wear that?" Is that the school pushing their "morality" on a student?

Update to story, my wife - who is an ADA in our county sent the mom a letter via registered mail informing her that if her daughter wore something like to school again SHE would be charged with contributing to the delinquency of a minor. Now, who the hell knows if that would stick, but maybe just the threat alone will get that mom to wake the fuck up.

SassyLady
08-20-2019, 07:33 PM
To be fair , there are a lot of shitty parents out there who need someone else making decisions for them.

First day of school this year we had a situation with a freshman girl wearing essentially a see through top with no bra. She was called into the office shown the dress code that her parents signed acknowledging they had seen it and agreed to make sure their children were dressed appropriately and told she could change if she had other outfits with her or call for a ride home.

Her mother was called and refused to come get her daughter literally screaming at the principle " I saw what my daughter had on and I don't care about your rules, it's my choice whether to let her wear it or not, not yours. Now pictures were taken as evidence and every member of the school board has seen them and let's just say if I ever wondered what 14 year old titties looked like, I now know. Her top left ZERO to the imagination, it wasn't even a close call in regards to the dress code.

The school resource officer (one of our female ones) took the young woman home to change and the mom was there and just flew into a rage again to a god damned cop.

At that point the officer said it was actually the daughter being the adult and telling her mom to calm down she would just go chqange

What do you with a parent like that? Does the school not need to step in and say "no ma'am you can't wear that?" Is that the school pushing their "morality" on a student?

Update to story, my wife - who is an ADA in our county sent the mom a letter via registered mail informing her that if her daughter wore something like to school again SHE would be charged with contributing to the delinquency of a minor. Now, who the hell knows if that would stick, but maybe just the threat alone will get that mom to wake the fuck up.

I agree ... there are a ton of shitty parents out there. Mine were shitty. Thank goodness I had some good teachers.