17 Philadelphia police officers suspended over social media posts

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/17-philadelphia-police-officers-suspended-over-social-media-184900302--abc-news-topstories.html

ABC News
17 Philadelphia police officers suspended over social media posts
ABC News BILL HUTCHINSON,ABC News 15 hours ago


17 Philadelphia police officers suspended over social media posts originally appeared on abcnews.go.com

The Philadelphia police commissioner has suspended 17 officers for 30 days and is moving to fire 13 of them over social media posts he called "sickening.".

Police Commissioner Richard Ross made the announcement during a news conference Thursday attended by Philadelphia Mayor James Kenney and the entire police department's command staff.

"I continue to be very angered and disappointed by these posts, many of which, in my view, violate the basic tenants of human decency," Ross said. "And I am saddened by the fact that there are even some who would attempt to justify such hateful and vile behavior."

PHOTO: Philadelphia Police Commissioner Richard Ross speak during a news conference in Philadelphia, July 18, 2019. (Matt Rourke/AP)
The disciplinary action stems from research published by the watchdog group the Plain View Project, which examined more than 3,100 allegedly troubling Facebook posts made by 328 active Philadelphia police officers, 72 of whom were put on administrative duty.

Ross said an investigation by an outside law firm contracted by the city found that the officers being suspended allegedly made racist, transphobic and otherwise hateful posts.

The police department immediately launched an internal investigation on June 1 when agency officials were made aware of the questionable social media posts, according to Ross.

He added that most of the 72 officers who had been pulled off street duty posted material "which advocates excessive force, but not necessarily to a person's membership in a protected class." He said such posts violated the city's social media directive by posting statements that "erode the trust necessary for a police department to carry out its core mission."

more at link given......

How much longer until total censorship and zero tolerance for even the idea of --free speech- ???
Ever noticed this immense protection is almost always against white people ( and Christians), what they say, what they even think!!! ?
Fact is-- destroy Freedom of Speech --you destroy this nation!
Dem party spearheads this attack on Freedom of Speech and this EXTRA, IMMENSE AND OFT OVER THE TOP protection of their pet voting groups.
Especially that of the blacks and the gays...
Even worse they buy the black vote with billions of dollars a month(our tax dollars) year round...
Sad truth but now it is so entrenched that it will never be stopped....
When are we going to say enough is enough /????
Some of the dem action and decrees , maintained political correctness--- is very very Gestapo like. A FACT..
And our citizenry has now been -- ""conditioned""-- to applaud it... -Tyr

[Kathianne]

How much longer until total censorship and zero tolerance for even the idea of --free speech- ???
Ever noticed this immense protection is almost always against white people ( and Christians), what they say, what they even think!!! ?
Fact is-- destroy Freedom of Speech --you destroy this nation!
Dem party spearheads this attack on Freedom of Speech and this EXTRA, IMMENSE AND OFT OVER THE TOP protection of their pet voting groups.
Especially that of the blacks and the gays...
Even worse they buy the black vote with billions of dollars a month(our tax dollars) year round...
Sad truth but now it is so entrenched that it will never be stopped....
When are we going to say enough is enough /????
Some of the dem action and decrees , maintained political correctness--- is very very Gestapo like. A FACT..
And our citizenry has now been -- ""conditioned""-- to applaud it... -Tyr


When the police come and monitor your postings or writings at home or start eavesdropping into your home or car, big problem.
However, when the police are enforcing their rules of employment, not such an issue. Like many others regarding workplace, they can be 'themselves' and express problems with those they are hired to serve and give up their job or they can serve those that they take an oath to serve and protect. It's for all people in their community, they don't get to pick and choose which.

There are limits of civil liberties one agrees to give up to do the job, same as the military members give up some of theirs while serving.

[STTAB]

Seriously? Who can't see the obvious reason why we can't allow law enforcement agents to be making disparaging tweets and such in public view?

The answer, of course is no one . And that's the truly frustrating part of all this. When it comes to things like this, the vast majority of people will change their opinion on both sides depending on who the agents disparaged.

Easily proven with a control test. Lisa Paige and Peter Strozk . Two FBI assholes who essentially were fired for disgusting private texts they sent to each other on government phones. Liberals think it's ridiculous that they were reprimanded at all conservatives think they should have possibly been put in prison for treason for such texts.

Meanwhile here, liberals think these cops should be labeled as NAZIS and put in prison, or at the very least be pummeled with milkshakes, and conservatives scream "but what about free speech?"

This goes directly to my comments yesterday about our very stupid voter base in this country.

[jimnyc]

I hope or wish that people around the country would hear the same about those facts actually and remember that with the NFL issues as they too are working under employers rules with millions of dollars on the line and freedom of speech is for the gov't not to have freedom of speech poured your employers in the NFL leads told them to cease activities and a continued and it was the freedom of speech comments nonstop for the reason that they continued.

too lazy to edit the above which was spoken. need a better speech thingy for the PC than the built-in "speech recognition". :)

So the moral clauses in the NFL, which they sign for those endless millions - requires them to be decent ppl, on the field and all yr long outside of football as well. the nfl said they had no issue with their crap back then, just not on the field. they didnt listen. and the nfl allowed it because of "fos" cries from them and some supporters. i wouldnt have caved.

an example of within contracts. If anything, a good read for nfl fans!


https://i.imgur.com/SpU9TrJs.png

PERSONAL CONDUCT POLICY
League Policies for Players
2016

It is a privilege to be part of the National Football League. Everyone who is part of the league
must refrain from “conduct detrimental to the integrity of and public confidence in” the NFL. This
includes owners, coaches, players, other team employees, game officials, and employees of the league
office, NFL Films, NFL Network, or any other NFL business.

Conduct by anyone in the league that is illegal, violent, dangerous, or irresponsible puts innocent
victims at risk, damages the reputation of others in the game, and undercuts public respect and support for
the NFL. We must endeavor at all times to be people of high character; we must show respect for others
inside and outside our workplace; and we must strive to conduct ourselves in ways that favorably reflect on
ourselves, our teams, the communities we represent, and the NFL.

To this end, the league has increased education regarding respect and appropriate behavior, has
provided resources for all employees to assist them in conforming their behavior to the standards expected
of them, and has made clear that the league’s goal is to prevent violations of the Personal Conduct Policy.
In order to uphold our high standards, when violations of this Personal Conduct Policy do occur,
appropriate disciplinary action must follow.

This Personal Conduct Policy is issued pursuant to the Commissioner’s authority under the
Constitution and Bylaws, Collective Bargaining Agreement and NFL Player Contract to address and
sanction conduct detrimental to the league and professional football. It applies to players under contract;
all rookie players selected in the NFL college draft and all undrafted rookie players, unsigned veterans who
were under contract in the prior League Year; and other prospective players once they commence
negotiations with a club concerning employment.

Expectations and Standards of Conduct

It is not enough simply to avoid being found guilty of a crime. We are all held to a higher standard
and must conduct ourselves in a way that is responsible, promotes the values of the NFL, and is lawful.

Players convicted of a crime or subject to a disposition of a criminal proceeding (as defined in this
Policy) are subject to discipline. But even if the conduct does not result in a criminal conviction, players
found to have engaged in any of the following conduct will be subject to discipline. Prohibited conduct
includes but is not limited to the following:

 Actual or threatened physical violence against another person, including dating violence,
domestic violence, child abuse, and other forms of family violence;
 Assault and/or battery, including sexual assault or other sex offenses;
 Violent or threatening behavior toward another employee or a third party in any workplace
setting;
 Stalking, harassment, or similar forms of intimidation;
 Illegal possession of a gun or other weapon (such as explosives, toxic substances, and the like),
or possession of a gun or other weapon in any workplace setting;
 Illegal possession, use, or distribution of alcohol or drugs;
 Possession, use, or distribution of steroids or other performance enhancing substances;
 Crimes involving cruelty to animals as defined by state or federal law;
 Crimes of dishonesty such as blackmail, extortion, fraud, money laundering, or racketeering;
 Theft-related crimes such as burglary, robbery, or larceny;
 Disorderly conduct;
 Crimes against law enforcement, such as obstruction, resisting arrest, or harming a police
officer or other law enforcement officer;
 Conduct that poses a genuine danger to the safety and well-being of another person; and
 Conduct that undermines or puts at risk the integrity of the NFL, NFL clubs, or NFL personnel.

What Happens When a Violation of This Policy is Suspected?

Evaluation, Counseling, and Services – Any player arrested or charged with violent or
threatening conduct that would violate this policy will be offered a formal clinical evaluation, the cost of
which will be paid by the league, and appropriate follow-up education, counseling, or treatment programs.
These evaluations will be available at designated facilities around the country on a confidential basis. The
player may select the particular provider at the designated facility.

The evaluation, counseling and other services are not disciplinary, but are instead intended to help
and assist the player address the issues giving rise to the proceedings. The player’s decision to make
beneficial use of these clinical services will be considered a positive factor in determining eventual
discipline if a violation is found, and his satisfactory participation in counseling, treatment, or therapy may
mitigate the fine or suspension that might otherwise be imposed.

In appropriate cases (for example, cases involving domestic violence or child abuse), the league
will make available assistance to victims and families, as well as the player. This assistance may include
providing or direction to appropriate counseling, social and other services, clergy, medical professionals,
and specialists in dealing with children and youth. These resources will be provided through specialized
Critical Response Teams affiliated with the league office and club. These teams will develop standard
protocols based on experts’ recommendations of appropriate and constructive responses to reported
incidents of violence, particularly incidents of domestic violence, child abuse, or sexual assault. These
response teams will assist victims and families in matters of personal security and other needs following a
reported incident. In addition, information about local non-league resources to help victims and family
members will be provided to affected parties.

Investigations – Whenever the league office becomes aware of a possible violation of the Personal
Conduct Policy, it will undertake an investigation, the timing and scope of which will be based upon the
particular circumstances of the matter. Any such investigation may be conducted by NFL Security,
independent parties, or by a combination of the two. In cases that are also being investigated by law
enforcement, the league will work to cooperate with and to avoid any conflict or interference with the law
enforcement proceedings.

In conducting investigations, the league office will make reasonable efforts to safeguard requests
for confidentiality from witnesses and others with information. In addition, the league will not tolerate any
retaliation against anyone who in good faith reports a possible violation or provides truthful information during an investigation. Any person who directly or indirectly through others interferes in any manner with an investigation, including by retaliating or threatening to retaliate against a victim or witness, will face separate disciplinary action under this policy. Prohibited retaliation includes, but is not limited to:

threats, intimidation, harassment, or any other adverse action threatened, expressly or impliedly, or taken
against anyone who reports a violation or suspected violation of this Policy or who participates in an
investigation of a complaint.

In investigating a potential violation, the league may rely on information obtained by law
enforcement agencies, court records, or independent investigations conducted at the direction of the NFL.
League and team employees including players are required to cooperate in any such investigation and are
obligated to be fully responsive and truthful in responding to requests from investigators for information
(testimony, documents, physical evidence, or other information) that may bear on whether the Policy has
been violated. A failure to cooperate with an investigation or to be truthful in responding to inquiries will
be separate grounds for disciplinary action. Players who are interviewed in the course of an investigation
may be accompanied by an NFLPA representative as provided by Article 51, Section 11 of the CBA.

Because the Fifth Amendment’s protection against self-incrimination does not apply in a
workplace investigation, the league will reserve the right to compel a player to cooperate in its
investigations even when he is the target of a pending law enforcement investigation or proceeding. A
player’s refusal to speak to a league investigator under such circumstances will not preclude an
investigation from proceeding or discipline from being imposed.

Leave with Pay – A player may be placed on paid administrative leave pursuant to the
Commissioner Exempt List under either of the following circumstances:

First, when a player is formally charged with a crime of violence, meaning that he is accused of having
used physical force or a weapon to injure or threaten another person, of having engaged in a sexual
assault by force or a sexual assault of a person who was incapable of giving consent, of having engaged
in other conduct that poses a genuine danger to the safety or well-being of another person, or of having
engaged in animal abuse. The formal charges may be in the form of an indictment by a grand jury, the
filing of charges by a prosecutor, or an arraignment in a criminal court.

Second, when an investigation leads the Commissioner to believe that a player may have violated this
Policy by committing any of the conduct identified above, he may act where the circumstances and evidence warrant doing so. This decision will not reflect a finding of guilt or innocence and will not be
guided by the same legal standards and considerations that would apply in a criminal trial.

In cases in which a violation relating to a crime of violence is suspected but further investigation is
required, the Commissioner may determine to place a player on the Commissioner Exempt List on a
limited and temporary basis to permit the league to conduct an investigation. Based on the results of this
investigation, the player may be returned to duty, be placed on the Commissioner Exempt List for a longer
period, or be subject to discipline.

A player who is placed on the Commissioner Exempt List may not practice or attend games, but
with the club’s permission he may be present at the club’s facility on a reasonable basis for meetings,
individual workouts, therapy and rehabilitation, and other permitted non-football activities.

A player placed on the Commissioner Exempt List will be notified promptly in writing with a copy
to the NFLPA. Within three (3) business days following such notification, the player, or the NFLPA with
the player’s approval, may appeal his placement in writing to the Commissioner. Appeals of placement on
the Commissioner Exempt List will be processed pursuant to Article 46 of the Collective Bargaining
Agreement.

Leave with pay will generally last until the league makes a disciplinary decision and any appeal
from that discipline is fully resolved.

Discipline – A player violates this policy when he has a disposition of a criminal proceeding (as
defined), or if the league’s investigation demonstrates that he engaged in conduct prohibited by the
Personal Conduct Policy. In cases where a player is not charged with a crime, or is charged but not
convicted, he may still be found to have violated the Policy if the credible evidence establishes that he
engaged in conduct prohibited by this Personal Conduct Policy.

A disciplinary officer, a member of the league office staff who will be a highly-qualified individual
with a criminal justice background, will follow the process outlined below to investigate a potential
violation, produce a report and if desired present a disciplinary recommendation for the Commissioner’s
consideration. The Commissioner will review the report (and recommendation if presented) and determine
the appropriate discipline, if any, to be imposed on the player.

To assist in evaluating a potential violation, expert and independent advisors may be consulted by
the disciplinary officer, the Commissioner, and others as needed.

Rest of pdf: https://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/photo/2017/08/11/0ap3000000828506.pdf

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

When the police come and monitor your postings or writings at home or start eavesdropping into your home or car, big problem.
However, when the police are enforcing their rules of employment, not such an issue. Like many others regarding workplace, they can be 'themselves' and express problems with those they are hired to serve and give up their job or they can serve those that they take an oath to serve and protect. It's for all people in their community, they don't get to pick and choose which.

There are limits of civil liberties one agrees to give up to do the job, same as the military members give up some of theirs while serving.

My main disagreement is about the firings. About the level of punishment meted out.
I did not and do not say the cops are right in making such public comments.
Problem is this is going same way political correctness started.
Each year gaining more and more restrictive powers, more and more punishment powers.
Which is fully intended to bring about a type of censorship that is being primarily directed at opponents of the dem party....
We see it already heavily enshrined in the power and tactics mainstream media bias that exists today--which will only get worse.


"When the police come and monitor your postings or writings at home or start eavesdropping into your home or car, big problem."



Our government already illegally does that and I suspect that in some large cities with huge police forces, the cops are doing it too.-Tyr

[STTAB]

I hope or wish that people around the country would hear the same about those facts actually and remember that with the NFL issues as they too are working under employers rules with millions of dollars on the line and freedom of speech is for the gov't not to have freedom of speech poured your employers in the NFL leads told them to cease activities and a continued and it was the freedom of speech comments nonstop for the reason that they continued.

too lazy to edit the above which was spoken. need a better speech thingy for the PC than the built-in "speech recognition". :)

So the moral clauses in the NFL, which they sign for those endless millions - requires them to be decent ppl, on the field and all yr long outside of football as well. the nfl said they had no issue with their crap back then, just not on the field. they didnt listen. and the nfl allowed it because of "fos" cries from them and some supporters. i wouldnt have caved.

an example of within contracts. If anything, a good read for nfl fans!


https://i.imgur.com/SpU9TrJs.png

PERSONAL CONDUCT POLICY
League Policies for Players
2016

It is a privilege to be part of the National Football League. Everyone who is part of the league
must refrain from “conduct detrimental to the integrity of and public confidence in” the NFL. This
includes owners, coaches, players, other team employees, game officials, and employees of the league
office, NFL Films, NFL Network, or any other NFL business.

Conduct by anyone in the league that is illegal, violent, dangerous, or irresponsible puts innocent
victims at risk, damages the reputation of others in the game, and undercuts public respect and support for
the NFL. We must endeavor at all times to be people of high character; we must show respect for others
inside and outside our workplace; and we must strive to conduct ourselves in ways that favorably reflect on
ourselves, our teams, the communities we represent, and the NFL.

To this end, the league has increased education regarding respect and appropriate behavior, has
provided resources for all employees to assist them in conforming their behavior to the standards expected
of them, and has made clear that the league’s goal is to prevent violations of the Personal Conduct Policy.
In order to uphold our high standards, when violations of this Personal Conduct Policy do occur,
appropriate disciplinary action must follow.

This Personal Conduct Policy is issued pursuant to the Commissioner’s authority under the
Constitution and Bylaws, Collective Bargaining Agreement and NFL Player Contract to address and
sanction conduct detrimental to the league and professional football. It applies to players under contract;
all rookie players selected in the NFL college draft and all undrafted rookie players, unsigned veterans who
were under contract in the prior League Year; and other prospective players once they commence
negotiations with a club concerning employment.

Expectations and Standards of Conduct

It is not enough simply to avoid being found guilty of a crime. We are all held to a higher standard
and must conduct ourselves in a way that is responsible, promotes the values of the NFL, and is lawful.

Players convicted of a crime or subject to a disposition of a criminal proceeding (as defined in this
Policy) are subject to discipline. But even if the conduct does not result in a criminal conviction, players
found to have engaged in any of the following conduct will be subject to discipline. Prohibited conduct
includes but is not limited to the following:

 Actual or threatened physical violence against another person, including dating violence,
domestic violence, child abuse, and other forms of family violence;
 Assault and/or battery, including sexual assault or other sex offenses;
 Violent or threatening behavior toward another employee or a third party in any workplace
setting;
 Stalking, harassment, or similar forms of intimidation;
 Illegal possession of a gun or other weapon (such as explosives, toxic substances, and the like),
or possession of a gun or other weapon in any workplace setting;
 Illegal possession, use, or distribution of alcohol or drugs;
 Possession, use, or distribution of steroids or other performance enhancing substances;
 Crimes involving cruelty to animals as defined by state or federal law;
 Crimes of dishonesty such as blackmail, extortion, fraud, money laundering, or racketeering;
 Theft-related crimes such as burglary, robbery, or larceny;
 Disorderly conduct;
 Crimes against law enforcement, such as obstruction, resisting arrest, or harming a police
officer or other law enforcement officer;
 Conduct that poses a genuine danger to the safety and well-being of another person; and
 Conduct that undermines or puts at risk the integrity of the NFL, NFL clubs, or NFL personnel.

What Happens When a Violation of This Policy is Suspected?

Evaluation, Counseling, and Services – Any player arrested or charged with violent or
threatening conduct that would violate this policy will be offered a formal clinical evaluation, the cost of
which will be paid by the league, and appropriate follow-up education, counseling, or treatment programs.
These evaluations will be available at designated facilities around the country on a confidential basis. The
player may select the particular provider at the designated facility.

The evaluation, counseling and other services are not disciplinary, but are instead intended to help
and assist the player address the issues giving rise to the proceedings. The player’s decision to make
beneficial use of these clinical services will be considered a positive factor in determining eventual
discipline if a violation is found, and his satisfactory participation in counseling, treatment, or therapy may
mitigate the fine or suspension that might otherwise be imposed.

In appropriate cases (for example, cases involving domestic violence or child abuse), the league
will make available assistance to victims and families, as well as the player. This assistance may include
providing or direction to appropriate counseling, social and other services, clergy, medical professionals,
and specialists in dealing with children and youth. These resources will be provided through specialized
Critical Response Teams affiliated with the league office and club. These teams will develop standard
protocols based on experts’ recommendations of appropriate and constructive responses to reported
incidents of violence, particularly incidents of domestic violence, child abuse, or sexual assault. These
response teams will assist victims and families in matters of personal security and other needs following a
reported incident. In addition, information about local non-league resources to help victims and family
members will be provided to affected parties.

Investigations – Whenever the league office becomes aware of a possible violation of the Personal
Conduct Policy, it will undertake an investigation, the timing and scope of which will be based upon the
particular circumstances of the matter. Any such investigation may be conducted by NFL Security,
independent parties, or by a combination of the two. In cases that are also being investigated by law
enforcement, the league will work to cooperate with and to avoid any conflict or interference with the law
enforcement proceedings.

In conducting investigations, the league office will make reasonable efforts to safeguard requests
for confidentiality from witnesses and others with information. In addition, the league will not tolerate any
retaliation against anyone who in good faith reports a possible violation or provides truthful information during an investigation. Any person who directly or indirectly through others interferes in any manner with an investigation, including by retaliating or threatening to retaliate against a victim or witness, will face separate disciplinary action under this policy. Prohibited retaliation includes, but is not limited to:

threats, intimidation, harassment, or any other adverse action threatened, expressly or impliedly, or taken
against anyone who reports a violation or suspected violation of this Policy or who participates in an
investigation of a complaint.

In investigating a potential violation, the league may rely on information obtained by law
enforcement agencies, court records, or independent investigations conducted at the direction of the NFL.
League and team employees including players are required to cooperate in any such investigation and are
obligated to be fully responsive and truthful in responding to requests from investigators for information
(testimony, documents, physical evidence, or other information) that may bear on whether the Policy has
been violated. A failure to cooperate with an investigation or to be truthful in responding to inquiries will
be separate grounds for disciplinary action. Players who are interviewed in the course of an investigation
may be accompanied by an NFLPA representative as provided by Article 51, Section 11 of the CBA.

Because the Fifth Amendment’s protection against self-incrimination does not apply in a
workplace investigation, the league will reserve the right to compel a player to cooperate in its
investigations even when he is the target of a pending law enforcement investigation or proceeding. A
player’s refusal to speak to a league investigator under such circumstances will not preclude an
investigation from proceeding or discipline from being imposed.

Leave with Pay – A player may be placed on paid administrative leave pursuant to the
Commissioner Exempt List under either of the following circumstances:

First, when a player is formally charged with a crime of violence, meaning that he is accused of having
used physical force or a weapon to injure or threaten another person, of having engaged in a sexual
assault by force or a sexual assault of a person who was incapable of giving consent, of having engaged
in other conduct that poses a genuine danger to the safety or well-being of another person, or of having
engaged in animal abuse. The formal charges may be in the form of an indictment by a grand jury, the
filing of charges by a prosecutor, or an arraignment in a criminal court.

Second, when an investigation leads the Commissioner to believe that a player may have violated this
Policy by committing any of the conduct identified above, he may act where the circumstances and evidence warrant doing so. This decision will not reflect a finding of guilt or innocence and will not be
guided by the same legal standards and considerations that would apply in a criminal trial.

In cases in which a violation relating to a crime of violence is suspected but further investigation is
required, the Commissioner may determine to place a player on the Commissioner Exempt List on a
limited and temporary basis to permit the league to conduct an investigation. Based on the results of this
investigation, the player may be returned to duty, be placed on the Commissioner Exempt List for a longer
period, or be subject to discipline.

A player who is placed on the Commissioner Exempt List may not practice or attend games, but
with the club’s permission he may be present at the club’s facility on a reasonable basis for meetings,
individual workouts, therapy and rehabilitation, and other permitted non-football activities.

A player placed on the Commissioner Exempt List will be notified promptly in writing with a copy
to the NFLPA. Within three (3) business days following such notification, the player, or the NFLPA with
the player’s approval, may appeal his placement in writing to the Commissioner. Appeals of placement on
the Commissioner Exempt List will be processed pursuant to Article 46 of the Collective Bargaining
Agreement.

Leave with pay will generally last until the league makes a disciplinary decision and any appeal
from that discipline is fully resolved.

Discipline – A player violates this policy when he has a disposition of a criminal proceeding (as
defined), or if the league’s investigation demonstrates that he engaged in conduct prohibited by the
Personal Conduct Policy. In cases where a player is not charged with a crime, or is charged but not
convicted, he may still be found to have violated the Policy if the credible evidence establishes that he
engaged in conduct prohibited by this Personal Conduct Policy.

A disciplinary officer, a member of the league office staff who will be a highly-qualified individual
with a criminal justice background, will follow the process outlined below to investigate a potential
violation, produce a report and if desired present a disciplinary recommendation for the Commissioner’s
consideration. The Commissioner will review the report (and recommendation if presented) and determine
the appropriate discipline, if any, to be imposed on the player.

To assist in evaluating a potential violation, expert and independent advisors may be consulted by
the disciplinary officer, the Commissioner, and others as needed.

Rest of pdf: https://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/photo/2017/08/11/0ap3000000828506.pdf


I never did get the NFL taking the position on that they did . I mean obviously they had a contract they could have fallen back on, and the people who were most offended by the behavior were the very people who the NFL depends on for revenue.

I do believe there was a quiet decision to blackball Colin for beginning the entire mess. I believe teams looked around and said "this guy has upset the people who pay our bills, he may be good enough to be a back up QB , but he isn't good enough to offset that fact"

But just like everyone else the NFL is too afraid of these type of people to simply say "nope, you have a contract and we will enforce it"

[jimnyc]

I never did get the NFL taking the position on that they did . I mean obviously they had a contract they could have fallen back on, and the people who were most offended by the behavior were the very people who the NFL depends on for revenue.

I do believe there was a quiet decision to blackball Colin for beginning the entire mess. I believe teams looked around and said "this guy has upset the people who pay our bills, he may be good enough to be a back up QB , but he isn't good enough to offset that fact"

But just like everyone else the NFL is too afraid of these type of people to simply say "nope, you have a contract and we will enforce it"

PP

public perception for the weenies of the world. :rolleyes: And it was the most famous players using their time to do their crap.

The big guns can make anywhere from like $5 mil per year, up to $30+ mill per year! And thats why they couldnt care less about being told they must be decent folks, on and off the field, and cant degrade the game or draw unwanted negativity and such. but the rich ones lived out their rookie contracts and sign 4-10 year deals and fat money right into their accounts - and now they're invincible - to rles as well, and contracts they sign. :rolleyes:

[Gunny]

I never did get the NFL taking the position on that they did . I mean obviously they had a contract they could have fallen back on, and the people who were most offended by the behavior were the very people who the NFL depends on for revenue.

I do believe there was a quiet decision to blackball Colin for beginning the entire mess. I believe teams looked around and said "this guy has upset the people who pay our bills, he may be good enough to be a back up QB , but he isn't good enough to offset that fact"

But just like everyone else the NFL is too afraid of these type of people to simply say "nope, you have a contract and we will enforce it"I think it was a business decision on all parts concerned, not necessarily a concerted effort on all parts.

While it surprised me that he did, even Jerry Jones has stayed away. Why? Kaepernick sucks kinda works. His Cinderella year wasn't followed up with another "Tom Brady" moment. Instead he was polishing pine with his ass. If you're not winning, your name is "who?" again?

[STTAB]

I think it was a business decision on all parts concerned, not necessarily a concerted effort on all parts.

While it surprised me that he did, even Jerry Jones has stayed away. Why? Kaepernick sucks kinda works. His Cinderella year wasn't followed up with another "Tom Brady" moment. Instead he was polishing pine with his ass. If you're not winning, your name is "who?" again?

Correct answer right there

If Tom Brady dragged an American flag out to the fifty yard line and took a shit on it at half time the Patriots would give him a small fine and go back to winning games.

CK has talent on the football field, no sense in denying that , but he did not have enough talent to justify putting up with his bullshit. It's that simple. It wasn't racism, it wasn't trying to silence him, it was a simple mathematical calculation.

It just boggles my mind that ANYONE would say that an organization that without question has created more black millionaires than any other organization in the history of the world is racist . Think about that statement and realize that the NFL has actually done more than that, FAR more than that. On the upper layer you have all the players, mostly black, who have actually played in the NFL over the decades and gotten rich doing so, but below that you also have the fact that without the NFL , college football wouldn't be nearly as big as it is today, and how many people have a college degree and are making a good living today because of football scholarships, but wait, we're not just talking about football scholarships, nor even just men's schoarships because football funds 90% of athletic scholarships at most schools. So how many total athletes in all sports have received a college degree over the last say 50 years that they otherwise would have had zero opportunity to get , but the NFL is racist and sexist.