New Parties?

[Kathianne]

If not for Obama, there wouldn't have been Trump. If not for Trump, there may not have been AOC.

Today, the Democrats have officially imploded!


https://hotair.com/archives/allahpundit/2019/07/11/pelosi-called-aoc-squad-office-basically-accused-centrist-members-segregationists/


Pelosi: I Called Out AOC And Her “Squad” Because Her Office Basically Accused Our Centrist Members Of Being Segregationists
ALLAHPUNDITPosted at 1:21 pm on July 11, 2019

So they did, Madam Speaker. So they did. (https://hotair.com/archives/allahpundit/2019/06/28/fun-house-dems-others-throats-pelosi-cave-senate-border-bill/)

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1148231160868327424/ImNB-bO__normal.jpg (https://twitter.com/JerryDunleavy)Jerry Dunleavy@JerryDunleavy
(https://twitter.com/JerryDunleavy)

(https://twitter.com/JerryDunleavy/status/1144388654099587072)


This is what AOC’s Chief of Staff deleted https://twitter.com/saikatc/status/1144387960982450178 … (https://t.co/ZR0sEThZTi)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-GvahBWsAAoceR?format=jpg&name=small (https://twitter.com/JerryDunleavy/status/1144388654099587072/photo/1)



Saikat Chakrabarti@saikatc

Replying to @saikatc @jnoisecat


Anyway I deleted the tweet since, yeah, I'm mad. But I do think if we don't have progress on racial justice it will be because of the new Dems and blue dogs. Just like in 1940.

(https://twitter.com/saikatc/status/1144387960982450178)



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Pelosi’s patience is running thin, she noted at her press conference this morning:


“They took offense because I addressed, at the request of my members, an offensive tweet that came out of one of the members’ offices that referenced our Blue Dogs and our New Dems essentially as segregationists,” Pelosi said. “Our members took offense at that. I addressed that. How they’re interpreting and carrying it to another place is up to them.”


“But I’m not going to be discussing it any further,” Pelosi said. “I said what I’m going to say.”


This isn’t the first time a member of the “Squad” (or a member of their staffs) has accused the Democratic caucus of prejudice. AOC did it last night, of course, before disingenuously denying that she did. But Ilhan Omar beat her to the punch months ago, claiming that Republicans *and some Democrats* couldn’t stand having to treat a black Muslim immigrant woman as their equal. Go figure that Nancy’s getting tired of having her majority-makers in the center — and herself — impugned.


I have bad news for her, though. Justice Democrats, the far-left group that helped get AOC elected and which is trying to mount progressive primary challenges to other incumbent Dems, is doubling down on the racism charge:


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This is like if the Tea Party Patriots had come after John Boehner and Paul Ryan not because they weren’t doing enough to cut spending but because they supposedly hated white people. It’s next-level nasty and destructive — and it’s amazing. “This is what we have lived our entire bloggy lives for,” Ed texted to me gleefully after seeing the Justice Democrats tweet. It’s true! “Thank you, God, for letting me live long enough to see the Dems have a big AOC-led fight over whether Pelosi’s a racist,” I tweeted last night when I saw Ocasio-Cortez’s quote about Pelosi targeting women of color in the caucus. We all thought Joe Biden would be the left’s prime Democratic target for racial McCarthyism this year, but it isn’t. It’s


Nancy
Farking
Pelosi


instead.


Instead of the next presidential primary debate, CNN should have AOC debate Kamala Harris on whether Pelosi or Biden is the more vicious geriatric neoliberal white racist.


I’m only half joking about that too. Warren Henry’s right that the presidential candidates will have a major say in whether Pelosi or AOC ultimately wins this battle for influence.


[A] broad swath of the establishment’s chattering class is effectively supporting the Ocasio-Cortez brand of politics, not only by defending her most ridiculous comments, but also by hyping almost any of the alternatives to Biden, chiefly Harris and Elizabeth Warren. Granted, the establishment media is less enthused about Bernie Sanders than in 2016, but this is largely because they believe more palatable versions of him are available. Notably, this faction of the media also dumped on Beto O’Rourke as a cisgender white male—traits he shares with Sanders and Biden.


In short, Pelosi has a gatekeeping power over the progressive caucus, while Biden is at the mercy of gatekeepers who prefer candidates aping the Ocasio-Cortez brand of identitarian socialist populism. The unanswered question is whether the media environment will also help convince the Democrats’ silent majority that they are in fact a minority.


The outcome of presidential primaries may greatly influence the feud in Congress, perhaps settling it outright. Once Democratic voters have chosen a standard-bearer, they will largely close ranks around that nominee.


If Biden gets stomped and the party nominates someone far-left, Pelosi’s claim that AOC and her progressive “Squad” collectively represent four voters will obviously be badly damaged. Damaged, but not completely undermined: While Ocasio-Cortez will point to the results of the presidential primaries as evidence that progressives deserve more influence in the House, Pelosi will point to the results of the midterms in 2018 and remind everyone that national presidential primaries mean little for localized House races. The purple-district centrist Dems who flipped red seats will still need to be protected — maybe more so than ever if the presidential nominee is far left, since Republicans will use that nominee’s politics against Dem House incumbents in swing districts.


We don’t need to overthink this now, though. We can just luxuriate in the other party’s bad faith and bitterness for a bit. What could be more enjoyable than watching the Democrats’ woke Frankenstein rise up off the laboratory table in which it was brought to life and start wrecking the room?


Devil’s advocate exit question: It *is* bad form for Pelosi to mock how little electoral support the “Squad” has, isn’t it? If you want to knock them for smearing their colleagues as racists, have at it. But to imply that they can be ignored when collectively they represent millions and Ocasio-Cortez is a media phenomenon unprecedented for a freshman member of the House is weirdly dismissive not just of the “Squad” but of their constituents. Boehner loathed the tea partiers in his caucus but I don’t remember him ever claiming that their support was negligible. Like it or not, Nancy, the woke brigades are a meaningful part of your base. Even if they’re not (yet) a majority.

In the long scheme of things, the Republicans were never the party with lots of splinters. Sure there were differences, but mostly about 'how much' or 'how many.' OTOH the Democrats always have had lots of groups within the group. It's what they called 'The Big Tent' and certainly played a part in their having more 'numbers,' though many of those self-identified didn't vote regularly, unlike Republicans.

Trump's election peeled off some, not as many as may have been expected, from the party. In the main though the party held. Yes, there are those who would gnash their teeth, but come election time they voted for Trump. They will do so again, more happily is my guess.

Now today? The Democrats are going to have a real big problem. No one, especially not leaders are wanting to be called racists, when it's well known they are anything but. Most Democrats are not to the extreme left as has been pointed out again and again in polling and by MSM opinion writers-those on the LEFT. So, where are they going to go? Not to Trump.

The very young are the only demographic that agree with AOC and her extremist pov. They will call Pelosi and most anyone over 30, racist.

Buy lots and lots of popcorn!

[Gunny]

Toddlers.

[Gunny]

Oh, and I saw this coming and said so months ago. If Nancy and the establishment want to keep their power, they're going to have to shut the noobs down; especially, since they are obviously stupid.

As far as Dems being called racist goes, they deserve it if anyone does. It does however seem to be the only (way overplayed) card the noob bigmouth Dems have. That and global warming.

But, if they blow themselves up? Who cares?

[Drummond]

Oh, and I saw this coming and said so months ago. If Nancy and the establishment want to keep their power, they're going to have to shut the noobs down; especially, since they are obviously stupid.

As far as Dems being called racist goes, they deserve it if anyone does. It does however seem to be the only (way overplayed) card the noob bigmouth Dems have. That and global warming.

But, if they blow themselves up? Who cares?

I understand that the Dems have a historical past of racism ... wasn't Woodrow Wilson an enthusiastic segregationist ?

A good generation before that, one Abraham Lincoln advocated a policy direction considerably more enlightened than that.

As for the Dems today; even if it's true that a large proportion aren't 'hard Left', don't for a moment believe that this current 'truth' immunises them against becoming just that. These things are never static.

Our British Labour Party underwent a moderating influence under Tony Blair's leadership. That has since been junked. What we have now is a Labour leadership harder Left than at any time in the past half century.

What is happening here, CAN happen in your part of the world, and it needs to be safeguarded against.

The best, most certain way of being sure is to NEVER give the Dems an inch. If any Party will dismantle what it means to be American, you can rely on their actions and influence to ensure it happens.

[Kathianne]

Fun times!

https://hotair.com/archives/allahpundit/2019/07/13/oh-yes-house-dems-progressives-melting-twitter-aoc-pelosi-war/


Oh Yes: House Dems, Progressives Melting Down On Twitter Over AOC/Pelosi WarALLAHPUNDITPosted at 2:31 pm on July 13, 2019

Following this has been the most fun I’ve had as blogger. At least since the first Anthony Weiner scandal and the day Andrew Breitbart briefly commandeered his podium.


I don’t even know where to begin in trying to catch people up. Here, I guess:





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https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1027232155158634496/1ymdZs-x_normal.jpg (https://twitter.com/HouseDemocrats)House Democrats
✔@HouseDemocrats
(https://twitter.com/HouseDemocrats)


Who is this guy and why is he explicitly singling out a Native American woman of color?

Her name is Congresswoman Davids, not Sharice.

She is a phenomenal new member who flipped a red seat blue.

Keephttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f44f-1f3fe.pngHerhttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f44f-1f3fe.pngNamehttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f44f-1f3fe.pngOuthttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f44f-1f3fe.pngOfhttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f44f-1f3fe.pngYourhttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f44f-1f3fe.pngMouth.


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6:41 PM - Jul 12, 2019 (https://twitter.com/HouseDemocrats/status/1149856308801286148)




Saikat Chakrabarti is AOC’s chief of staff, as you already know (https://hotair.com/archives/allahpundit/2019/07/12/aocs-chief-staff-dont-think-green-new-deal-climate-thing-change-entire-economy-thing/) and everyone in Washington very well knows. And that’s not some random Democratic account telling him to shut his piehole. That’s the official House Democratic account. One of Pelosi’s own aides delivered that slap in the mouth to Chakrabarti last night, using the caucus’s imprimatur to do it — and her own deputy chief of staff retweeted it, it turns out. When asked why, he replied (https://twitter.com/mikedebonis/status/1150055654507327489), “I RTed this in my personal capacity as a gay man who was bullied and beaten in high school.” Hoo boy.

But the Dem establishment wasn’t done with Chakrabarti yet. A “Democratic leadership source” knifed him yesterday in the pages of the New York Daily News (https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-greg-meeks-ocasio-cortez-congress-pelosi-primary-20190712-wgbfh35akrf7bmakyuqugzltha-story.html) as well:


“Justice Democrats in general are trust fund kids who are funding this with their parents’ money,” the source said, blasting the progressive group as “elitist” for criticizing black lawmakers from poor districts who take corporate donations. “It’s offensive for CBC members when these elites are looking down on them when they don’t have the financial ability to say, ‘I don’t want that money.’”

Asked for an example, the source pointed to Ocasio-Cortez chief of staff and Justice Democrats co-founder Saikat Chakrabarti, a millionaire Harvard graduate who worked on Wall Street before turning to left-wing politics.



Justice Democrats is the PAC that helped AOC to victory over Joe Crowley in last year’s primary and which is working on progressive primary challenges to Democrats in other blue districts next year, much to the annoyance of AOC’s colleagues in the House. Think of them as the Tea Party Patriots of socialism. They were following the attacks on Chakrabarti last night too:


https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1113879287457898496/bn3snxIQ_normal.png (https://twitter.com/justicedems)Justice Democrats
✔@justicedems
(https://twitter.com/justicedems)

(https://twitter.com/justicedems/status/1150044576482304002)
It’s deeply concerning and almost unbelievable that @HouseDemocrats (https://twitter.com/HouseDemocrats) leadership is focused on cracking down on progressives pushing the party to more aggressively address the crisis at the border camps instead of holding Trump accountable.

Where are your priorities? https://twitter.com/housedemocrats/status/1149856308801286148 … (https://t.co/TPyr4TJeE6)
House Democrats
✔@HouseDemocrats


Who is this guy and why is he explicitly singling out a Native American woman of color?

Her name is Congresswoman Davids, not Sharice.

She is a phenomenal new member who flipped a red seat blue.

Keephttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f44f-1f3fe.pngHerhttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f44f-1f3fe.pngNamehttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f44f-1f3fe.pngOuthttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f44f-1f3fe.pngOfhttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f44f-1f3fe.pngYourhttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f44f-1f3fe.pngMouth.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D_UcN7MW4AI_cQ4?format=jpg&name=small



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They have a point. Didn’t Pelosi just warn her caucus to stop taking potshots at each other on Twitter (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/addybaird/nancy-pelosi-aoc-twitter-feud)? Then why is the official House Democratic account taking potshots at Ocasio-Cortez’s chief of staff on Twitter?
Eh, no matter. If the Justice Democrats wanted a piece of this action, Team Nancy was happy to give it to them:


https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1140951536417288192/3LSCqvkR_normal.jpg (https://twitter.com/brookefoxnews)Brooke Singman
✔@brookefoxnews
(https://twitter.com/brookefoxnews)



NEW: on @justicedems (https://twitter.com/justicedems) plans to primary members, a senior Democratic source said: "
“No one is afraid of those nerds. They don't have the ability to primary anyone.”


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12:06 PM - Jul 12, 2019 (https://twitter.com/brookefoxnews/status/1149757034209955841) · Manhattan, NY (https://twitter.com/search?q=place%3A01a9a39529b27f36)




They did okay against Crowley! Anyway, as this clusterfark played out last night and this morning in full view of America’s media and political junkies of all stripes, noncombatants began to be swept into the fray:

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/661228828941946880/5kuuC-pL_normal.jpg (https://twitter.com/tribelaw)Laurence Tribe
✔@tribelaw
(https://twitter.com/tribelaw)



Why is @SpeakerPelosi (https://twitter.com/SpeakerPelosi) giving priority to marginalizing @AOC (https://twitter.com/AOC) @AyannaPressley (https://twitter.com/AyannaPressley) @RashidaTlaib (https://twitter.com/RashidaTlaib) & @IlhanMN (https://twitter.com/IlhanMN) (the “squad”) over unleashing the House to perform its checking function with every tool in the kit? Consider retweeting if you share my growing puzzlement and anger.


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✔@Lawrence (https://twitter.com/Lawrence)

Has a House member’s staff ever publicly attacked a Speaker before? Even a Speaker of the opposing party? Doing this publicly with your name attached is new. Off the record & on background staff criticism has always been done. https://twitter.com/saikatc/status/1147679359479758848 … (https://t.co/7f0fMh5Fup)
Saikat Chakrabarti@saikatc

Replying to @saikatc


Pelosi claims we can't focus on impeachment because it's a distraction from kitchen table issues. But I'd challenge you to find voters that can name a single thing House Democrats have done for their kitchen table this year. What is this legislative mastermind doing?
(https://twitter.com/saikatc/status/1147679359479758848)

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9:04 AM - Jul 12, 2019 (https://twitter.com/Lawrence/status/1149711207152140288)



Sides must be taken. But wait — we’re not done yet. The least publicized member of AOC’s “Squad,” Rep. Ayanna Pressley, chipped in with her own contribution to the discussion a few hours ago — the most hair-raising one yet, as it turned out:


https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/999649964870451201/-Co_Xkx4_normal.jpg (https://twitter.com/daveweigel)Dave Weigel
✔@daveweigel
(https://twitter.com/daveweigel)

(https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1150068985066602496)

Replying to @daveweigel (https://twitter.com/_/status/1150068400011563008)

Pressley seeming to hit back at the criticism from the CBC et al: "We don’t need any more brown faces that don’t want to be a brown voice. We don’t need any more black voices that don’t want to be a black voice."


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“Side with the Squad or you don’t really want to be black” just might be the healing message that finally brings peace to this war-torn party. It sure sounded from the quote above as though Pressley, who’s African-American, was suggesting that black Democrats in the House who took Pelosi’s side (https://hotair.com/archives/ed-morrissey/2019/07/12/cbc-fires-back-aocs-justice-democrats-targeting-black-lawmakers/) in this dispute were Uncle Toms, but Pressley insists otherwise. I did no such thing, she insisted (https://twitter.com/AyannaPressley/status/1150076777676587008) afterwards — which makes her the second member of the Squad in about 48 hours to have seemingly very clearly impugned a colleague or colleagues in racial terms only to scramble away from her remarks (https://thehill.com/homenews/house/452602-ocasio-cortez-explains-her-criticism-of-pelosi-says-shes-absolutely-not-racist) once she was confronted about them. The Squad is overflowing with demagoguery but they don’t like it when too much attention is paid to that fact.

Where’s AOC in all this? you’re wondering. Good question. She hasn’t tweeted about any of the drama, surprisingly enough. Maybe she’s obeying Pelosi’s order to cease bickering with fellow Dems on Twitter, never mind that the House Democrats account is throwing punches at her chief of staff. Maybe she’s lying low because Chakrabarti’s loud mouth seems to be a major thorn in the sides of the Dem leadership, to the point where Ocasio-Cortez might want to placate them by not rushing to his aid.

Or maybe she’s fully prepared to weigh in but wants to be sworn in on camera (https://hotair.com/archives/allahpundit/2019/07/12/aoc-want-testify-saw-border-want-sworn/) first.

Things are touch-and-go as I write this at 2 p.m. ET. It’s quiet, but quiet like a barroom brawl that’s gone on for 20 minutes and everyone’s momentarily too tired and in too much pain to keep going. Maybe they’ll start straggling towards the door and call it a night. Or maybe someone will break the silence by running their mouth again, get punched in the face, and everyone will start throwing chairs anew. Stand by. Exit question: Did Boehner and the tea party ever have a squabble this ugly? Boehner at least made a pretense that he didn’t despise the fringier populists in his own caucus. Pelosi and her team can’t be bothered anymore.

[Kathianne]

This is more, but AOC's fans start getting involved, total meltdowns emerge:

https://www.dailywire.com/news/49463/house-democrats-nuke-aocs-chief-staff-twitter-ryan-saavedra

[Kathianne]

AOCs chief of staff was the brilliant rebel who made clear that her 'green' policy was really set to undo the economic system of the US and install full blown socialism. You know, 'for the Children.'

https://www.dailywire.com/news/49417/aocs-chief-staff-admits-green-new-deal-about-ryan-saavedra




...

The Post notes that the admission came during an exchange between Chakrabarti and Sam Ricketts, climate director for Washington Gov. Jay Inslee (D), who is a long shot running for president. The Post reports:


Chakrabarti had an unexpected disclosure. “The interesting thing about the Green New Deal,” he said, “is it wasn’t originally a climate thing at all.” Ricketts greeted this startling notion with an attentive poker face. “Do you guys think of it as a climate thing?” Chakrabarti continued. “Because we really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing.” [emphasis added]


Conservatives have long warned that Ocasio-Cortez's $93 trillion "Green New Deal" is a trojan horse that is designed to implement socialism.

...

[Gunny]

Fun times!

https://hotair.com/archives/allahpundit/2019/07/13/oh-yes-house-dems-progressives-melting-twitter-aoc-pelosi-war/I think the whole little "spat" is a farce. The Democratic Party plays to and on racism. The fact they can't get a word out without throwing race into the picture just shows me, and should show anyone with any intelligence just how hollow their message is. Now they can't even squabble among themselves without throwing it at each other.

If I was a noob Dem and wanted to separate myself from the herd? I'd make an issue of what a pointless and hollow message Dems were sending labeling everyone-and-thing that didn't agree with them racist for the past 50 years. While in fact, they are the racists.

Don't imagine I'd last long as a Dem with such a message :)

[Elessar]

I think the whole little "spat" is a farce. The Democratic Party plays to and on racism. The fact they can't get a word out without throwing race into the picture just shows me, and should show anyone with any intelligence just how hollow their message is. Now they can't even squabble among themselves without throwing it at each other.

If I was a noob Dem and wanted to separate myself from the herd? I'd make an issue of what a pointless and hollow message Dems were sending labeling everyone-and-thing that didn't agree with them racist for the past 50 years. While in fact, they are the racists.

Don't imagine I'd last long as a Dem with such a message :)

The new run of Dems runs on emotion, not fact or logic - or even US Laws.

They are young fools with a big mouth trying for face time on social media.

Never mind they are violating their sworn oaths of to "Protect and Defend the Constitution of the United States".

[Kathianne]

Yesterday's tweet, that defending Pelosi was quite brilliant.

Not certain why though, the following happened, it seems that when the other side is committed to a circle firing squad it's a good idea not to volunteer to be the new target?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-targets-four-freshman-house-members-pelosi-in-sunady-tweet-storm

[Kathianne]

Yeah, this: https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2019/07/14/democrats-fight-civil-war-trump-strips-naked-runs-flailing-onto-battlefield/

Why?

[Gunny]

Yesterday's tweet, that defending Pelosi was quite brilliant.

Not certain why though, the following happened, it seems that when the other side is committed to a circle firing squad it's a good idea not to volunteer to be the new target?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-targets-four-freshman-house-members-pelosi-in-sunady-tweet-storm


Yeah, this: https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2019/07/14/democrats-fight-civil-war-trump-strips-naked-runs-flailing-onto-battlefield/

Why?:facepalm99:

He sure knows who and how to pull chains, huh? :laugh:

[STTAB]

If not for Obama, there wouldn't have been Trump. If not for Trump, there may not have been AOC.

Today, the Democrats have officially imploded!



In the long scheme of things, the Republicans were never the party with lots of splinters. Sure there were differences, but mostly about 'how much' or 'how many.' OTOH the Democrats always have had lots of groups within the group. It's what they called 'The Big Tent' and certainly played a part in their having more 'numbers,' though many of those self-identified didn't vote regularly, unlike Republicans.

Trump's election peeled off some, not as many as may have been expected, from the party. In the main though the party held. Yes, there are those who would gnash their teeth, but come election time they voted for Trump. They will do so again, more happily is my guess.

Now today? The Democrats are going to have a real big problem. No one, especially not leaders are wanting to be called racists, when it's well known they are anything but. Most Democrats are not to the extreme left as has been pointed out again and again in polling and by MSM opinion writers-those on the LEFT. So, where are they going to go? Not to Trump.

The very young are the only demographic that agree with AOC and her extremist pov. They will call Pelosi and most anyone over 30, racist.

Buy lots and lots of popcorn!


Hilariously much like many of Trump's offensive tweets, this tweet by AOC's CoS was dead on right, of course the DNC has always favored keeping negroes in slavery.

[STTAB]

Yesterday's tweet, that defending Pelosi was quite brilliant.

Not certain why though, the following happened, it seems that when the other side is committed to a circle firing squad it's a good idea not to volunteer to be the new target?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-targets-four-freshman-house-members-pelosi-in-sunady-tweet-storm

Yep, exactly what i just said to Gunny in another thread. I''m so sick of it , of course his most ardent supporters guffaw and encourage that type of behavior from him.

[Kathianne]

Knowing when to be quiet and smile:

https://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2019/07/poll-aoc-defining-dems-swing-states/




The findings:Ocasio-Cortez was recognized by 74% of voters in the poll; 22% had a favorable view.
Rep. Ilhan Omar of Minnesota — another member of The Squad — was recognized by 53% of the voters; 9% (not a typo) had a favorable view.
Socialism was viewed favorably by 18% of the voters and unfavorably by 69%.





While it would be obvious, it would be easier for the RNC to win those like me in the future than the DNC, but it seems even more obvious that neither of these organizations will ever get around to attempting to attract those who cannot see the greatness in their most obnoxious offerings.

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Knowing when to be quiet and smile:

https://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2019/07/poll-aoc-defining-dems-swing-states/





While it would be obvious, it would be easier for the RNC to win those like me in the future than the DNC, but it seems even more obvious that neither of these organizations will ever get around to attempting to attract those who cannot see the greatness in their most obnoxious offerings.

I will say one thing though, at least Trump is genuine, yeah that may mean being a genuine asshole at times, but he is who he says he is, that can't be said for a single Democrat who is running for President, they are all phony as fuck.

[Kathianne]

It's not my cup of tea to defend President Trump's tweets or see him in the saving light that many of you do. I will admit to being fascinated by his behaviors and those of his supporters. He often seems to get things done in ways that baffle me and in the long run I see as bad for the country in how he does these things. This may well be another example of how doing the wrong thing plays well for him. Again, it's all about winning and he does seem to do that, even if it plays to the worst of his supporters:

https://althouse.blogspot.com/2019/07/lets-look-at-trumps-now-infamous.html


July 15, 2019Let's look at Trump's now-infamous question, "Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came."
It is a question, isn't it? There's no question mark. That makes it feel more like an imperative. It reminds me of the saying I remember from the Vietnam Era, "America, love it or leave it."


Here's the entire statement — a tripartite tweet (1, 2, 3):


So interesting to see 'Progressive' Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly........and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how.... ....it is done. These places need your help badly, you can’t leave fast enough. I’m sure that Nancy Pelosi would be very happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements!

That's from 22 hours ago. He got a lot of pushback — including Power Line's "A Blunder of Epic Proportions" — but he didn't walk it back. He's Donald Trump; he doubled down. From 11 hours ago — a 2-part tweet (1, 2):


So sad to see the Democrats sticking up for people who speak so badly of our Country and who, in addition, hate Israel with a true and unbridled passion. Whenever confronted, they call their adversaries, including Nancy Pelosi, “RACIST.” Their disgusting language..... ....and the many terrible things they say about the United States must not be allowed to go unchallenged. If the Democrat Party wants to continue to condone such disgraceful behavior, then we look even more forward to seeing you at the ballot box in 2020!
1. Who is he talking about? He doesn't name names, so it's an invitation for others to do the defining. I see many people talking about Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and expressing outrage that Trump would speak of her as an immigrant when she was born in the United States. But he didn't name her. His words exclude her. She's really got a hold on people's mind!


2. What, exactly, is supposed to be racist here? Clearly, these tweets cause some readers to feel that racism is being expressed, but it's hard to find it in these words. I see "RACIST" but that's in the context of ostensibly sticking up for Nancy Pelosi. Some Democrats are calling her racist, and that shows how unfairly quick they are to see racism. Defending Pelosi, he implicitly defends himself.


3. Is it xenophobia? He's not saying get out and stay out. He's saying don't criticize the United States if you immigrated from a worse country. Go back to that place, fix it, and "The come back and show us... how it is done." He's welcoming the immigrant back, after these steps are taken. Of course, it's unrealistic to expect someone to return to a place they left and become involved in changing that place, but it's a figure of speech. He seems to be saying that those who were not born here, who chose to move here, have a special obligation to express love for America, that they should tone down their criticism of America.


4. If telling these Congresswomen to tone it down is wrong, Nancy Pelosi was wrong too. (See "Tensions Between Pelosi and Progressive Democrats of ‘the Squad’ Burst Into Flame" (NYT).) So, again, Trump lines himself up with Pelosi. How do you defend Pelosi without defending Trump? In this view, it's a clever (and cruel) rhetorical move by Trump.

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This is another area where Trump missed the boat. If I were President I would have sent someone to kick the living shit out of AOC whie letting her know that Nancy is in charge, not her. LOL

[Kathianne]

I gave up on the circular firing too soon:

https://hotair.com/archives/ed-morrissey/2019/07/16/hill-house-dems-still-seething-aoc-chief-staff/


The Hill: House Dems Still Seething Over AOC Chief Of Staff

ED MORRISSEYPosted at 12:01 pm on July 16, 2019

Maybe the Battle of Wokeback Mountain hasn’t been entirely extinguished yet. According to The Hill, House Democrats want to know why Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez still employs Saikat Chakrabarti as her chief of staff after his public attacks on other House members. “Who’s in charge of that office?” one moderate House Dem told The Hill on background, and used the R-word explicitly:


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“Do I think AOC’s chief of staff needs to be fired? Of course I do,” said a moderate Democratic lawmaker. “Who is in charge in that office? Is she unable to fire him for his racist comments?”


Another Democratic lawmaker added: “My chief would have the honor to resign” if he tweeted those things.


Another senior aide told The Hill that Chakrabarti’s survival after his attacks on elected representatives was “unheard of.” That aide wondered whether Chakrabarti was the actual brains behind Ocasio-Cortez and therefore making all the decisions for her:

The Democratic aide echoed the moderate lawmaker, suggesting that Chakrabarti has not been reprimanded by Ocasio-Cortez because he and his group, Justice Democrats, helped propel the former New York bartender to victory last year and he’s the one pulling the strings in her office.


“I have never seen a staffer insult multiple members multiple times and keep his job. It’s unheard of,” the aide added.


Yowza. Imagine, if you will, the blowback that would come if a Republican said that about a female elected official — that she was just a puppet for a man behind the scenes. The full weight of Woke Feminism Inc. would come crashing down on the GOP and every male Republican in Congress would be asked to condemn those remarks, even if the remark was made by an anonymous aide.


Not all House Dems are taking aim at AOC sotto voce. Her New York colleague Gregory Meeks went on the record to tell Ocasio-Cortez to do her job and fire Chakrabarti:

That’s just a terrible statement to make. That’s a terrible statement to make,” Rep. Gregory Meeks (D-N.Y.), a Congressional Black Caucus member, said of Chakrabarti’s segregationists tweets. “Somebody’s got to be held accountable. If my staff did something that was not right, then I have to handle my staff.”


“The question is: Do you think it’s appropriate for your staff to say something like that?” added Meeks, who in recent days has threatened to back a primary challenger against Ocasio-Cortez.


So the Battle of Wokeback Mountain still rages, because this fight is inevitable, as I wrote in my column at The Week. Donald Trump might have momentarily derailed it, but the race card is the go-to attack for people on the Left. Turning it on themselves was inevitable once any significant power struggle began:


The Times itself had taken up that subject in a Maureen Dowd column published just before Trump’s tweets titled “Scaling Wokeback Mountain.” Dowd was no defender of Trump or beyond playing the r-word herself, calling him a “racist, backward president,” but cut to the heart of making that ad hominem the Democrats’ go-to accusation for critics.


“The progressives act as though anyone who dares disagree with them is bad,” Dowd wrote, citing Chakrabarti in particular. “Not wrong, but bad, guilty of some human failing, some impurity that is a moral evil that justifies their venom.” And far too often, that moral evil is expressed as racism, even when the supposed failing has little or nothing to do with race. “But once you start that ball rolling,” Dowd warned, “it’s hard to stop.”


Democrats may find that prophetic even after Trump’s intervention. Their civil war and the media’s interest in stoking it has stopped it for the moment, but it won’t end the risk for Democrats altogether. The purity campaign waged by progressives will require attacking the Democratic establishment in ways that will have effects on activists and voters in the districts they want to capture. The initial Battle of Wokeback Mountain may have been stalled, but the war is far from over — if Republicans can refrain from providing distractions.


The ball is still rolling on the Left. And it will likely pick up more momentum again after everyone gets their fill of attacking Trump this week, since the hard progressives still want to wrest control of the party away from the slightly-less-hard progressives led by Nancy Pelosi.

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Wokeback Mountain LOL that's hilarious.

[Gunny]

"IF Republicans can refrain from providing distractions." Anybody send the memo to the President?

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"IF Republicans can refrain from providing distractions." Anybody send the memo to the President?

Why bother, Trump is gonna do whatever Trump wants to do, no matter whether that hurts him politically or not. Now , if he just kept that attitude in terms of policies, that would be great and admirable. I think we all would like politicians who said " I don't care if this hurt me politically it's the right thing to do" but his god damned tweets, and stupid need to comment on EVERYTHING are maddening. He truly can't control himself.

[Gunny]

Why bother, Trump is gonna do whatever Trump wants to do, no matter whether that hurts him politically or not. Now , if he just kept that attitude in terms of policies, that would be great and admirable. I think we all would like politicians who said " I don't care if this hurt me politically it's the right thing to do" but his god damned tweets, and stupid need to comment on EVERYTHING are maddening. He truly can't control himself.Can't disagree with that. IMO, he negates some of the brilliance behind whipping the left's ass on social media in 16 with is lack of filtration.

But yeah, it's what he's going to do.

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Can't disagree with that. IMO, he negates some of the brilliance behind whipping the left's ass on social media in 16 with is lack of filtration.

But yeah, it's what he's going to do.

Part of that is , when do you suppose was the last time someone told Trump he couldn't do something? Probably when he was in boarding school.