Anyone know if this is true?

[Abbey Marie]

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[icansayit]

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/politics/texas/article/Police-reports-detail-Beto-O-Rourke-s-1998-13195088.php

He seems to be a little, mentally challenged, which is PARR for the course for today's, Liberal Millennials, and Democrats who idolize people LIKE THEMSELVES.

[LongTermGuy]

They just had it on FOX News....and Beto (in a video) apologizing....

"I said things when I was young that I didn't mean"

....So...it seems true...

Thanks for the Post I wasn't aware of that...

[Noir]

He wrote a fictional story when he was 15, that should disqualify him from the presidency.

[jimnyc]

He wrote a fictional story when he was 15, that should disqualify him from the presidency.

I've yet to see you pop in to the other endless stories where the left has attacked folks on the right for dumb things said, from 20-40 years ago, and losing their minds and demanding heads.

[Elessar]

He wrote a fictional story when he was 15, that should disqualify him from the presidency.

Are you really this stupid?

[Noir]

I've yet to see you pop in to the other endless stories where the left has attacked folks on the right for dumb things said, from 20-40 years ago, and losing their minds and demanding heads.

In most (all?) cases there needs to be a path to redemption, which I don’t think is present in our current system - an over correction.

If if there are endless stories on this website saying that heads are being called for when they shouldn’t because of historical statements, then all the more reason for the story in the OP to be dismissed, though the cases themselves can only be judged on an individual basis.

[Abbey Marie]

In most (all?) cases there needs to be a path to redemption, which I don’t think is present in our current system - an over correction.

If if there are endless stories on this website saying that heads are being called for when they shouldn’t because of historical statements, then all the more reason for the story in the OP to be dismissed, though the cases themselves can only be judged on an individual basis.

I must have missed your posts defending the men accused of long-ago actions in the #metoo movement. IIRC, they were mostly (all?) immediately fired from whatever jobs they had, written out of shows, vilified, etc. I don’t think they were given a chance to take even one step onto the path of redemption.

[Noir]

I must have missed your posts defending the men accused of long-ago actions in the #metoo movement. IIRC, they were mostly (all?) immediately fired from whatever jobs they had, written out of shows, vilified, etc. I don’t think they were given a chance to take even one step onto the path of redemption.

I’m not sure (and certainly don’t remember) discussing #metoo on this board, I do think I posted a few times about the path to redemption for former Nazi/Neo-Nazis, which I don’t remember being meet with much discussion.

The answers (and even questions) too all of these kinds of topics (historical and current) vary greatly in their shades of grey.

As as for the quote you posted in the OP, do you think it is presently relevant to his character?

[jimnyc]

The answers (and even questions) too all of these kinds of topics (historical and current) vary greatly in their shades of grey.

And political crap, a lot boils down to individual stuff and not as a total. Important as to why myself and Abs and others will bring up stuff like that "where were you when..." - because it's important to judge individually at times - and asking will often show the hypocrisy of the person making statements, but did NOT do so on other stuff.

[STTAB]

In most (all?) cases there needs to be a path to redemption, which I don’t think is present in our current system - an over correction.

If if there are endless stories on this website saying that heads are being called for when they shouldn’t because of historical statements, then all the more reason for the story in the OP to be dismissed, though the cases themselves can only be judged on an individual basis.

Redemption is one thing being elected to high office another. No one who fantasized about killing kids belongs in elected office.

[Abbey Marie]

I’m not sure (and certainly don’t remember) discussing #metoo on this board, I do think I posted a few times about the path to redemption for former Nazi/Neo-Nazis, which I don’t remember being meet with much discussion.

The answers (and even questions) too all of these kinds of topics (historical and current) vary greatly in their shades of grey.

As as for the quote you posted in the OP, do you think it is presently relevant to his character?

#metoo is just an example to make a point that is obvious to most of us: persons of a, let’s say, non-conservative persuasion, will come to the defense of the Betos of the world. But never Trump or any other conservative. Just a fact, Jack. ;)

As for Mr. O’Rourke, is this comment more, or is it less, indicative of his true nature than Trump’s “grab em” (privately made) comment?

[Noir]

#metoo is just an example to make a point that is obvious to most of us: persons of a, let’s say, non-conservative persuasion, will come to the defense of the Betos of the world. But never Trump or any other conservative. Just a fact, Jack. ;)

As for Mr. O’Rourke, is this comment more, or is it less, indicative of his true nature than Trump’s “grab em” (privately made) comment?

I don’t think these examples are remotely similar, the fictional writing of a 15 year old, and the self-represented persona of a 50(?) year old could both be very good or very bad indicators of the “true nature” of each person, but they do not relate to each other.

[STTAB]

I don’t think these examples are remotely similar, the fictional writing of a 15 year old, and the self-represented persona of a 50(?) year old could both be very good or very bad indicators of the “true nature” of each person, but they do not relate to each other.

I don't care about a person's "true nature", there are 350M + people in this country, we can afford to be a little picky about who we elected to office, including not electing a person who at ANY point their life fantasized about killing another human being.

[Noir]

I don't care about a person's "true nature", there are 350M + people in this country, we can afford to be a little picky about who we elected to office, including not electing a person who at ANY point their life fantasized about killing another human being.

I don’t know if its appropriate to say he “fantasised about killing another human” by writing a fictional account. By what information are you making the decision that this was a fantasy?

[jimnyc]

I don’t know if its appropriate to say he “fantasised about killing another human” by writing a fictional account. By what information are you making the decision that this was a fantasy?

Between that, and the other crazy shit that came out in his "work", about his ass and balls... regardless of anything, if held to the same standards that democrats hold to anyone on the right found to have said anything offensive, decades ago, end up paying the price.

Disqualifying as prez as you said? No, it cant. But it can surely show the people his history and character, and if me of course, as I played that ad I would also remind folks of the Democrat standards they themselves apply. Sure wouldn't want any of them to be hypocrites!

[Noir]

Between that, and the other crazy shit that came out in his "work", about his ass and balls... regardless of anything, if held to the same standards that democrats hold to anyone on the right found to have said anything offensive, decades ago, end up paying the price.

Disqualifying as prez as you said? No, it cant. But it can surely show the people his history and character, and if me of course, as I played that ad I would also remind folks of the Democrat standards they themselves apply. Sure wouldn't want any of them to be hypocrites!

And do you think those standards should be applied?

[jimnyc]

And do you think those standards should be applied?

No. I don't believe so. Not unless it's something criminal or SO bad that anyone in their right mind would fire such a person for whatever accusation, decades later. I can't think of many things. And it sure as hell oughta come with some serious facts to back things up.

Someone using the N word 2-3 decades ago? Who cares. Someone who smoked weed years ago? Who cares. Even if just words of a horrid nature... first context... and then what's been up since those few decades! If someone used the N word, but has never been racist since, who cares?

So no, I don't care that he wrote this weird shit years ago. And hell, even a few on the left are saying "its laughable or insane that they want to bring up stuff from so long ago..." - but that's in the face of the left doing it so many times to people on the right.

I say who cares to a lot of that old shit, and I think the people out there that actively try to get others fired for similar type stuff, are assholes.

And like I said yesterday too... each individual case.

[STTAB]

And do you think those standards should be applied?

Noir, I'm probably uniquely situation on this board in that although I agreed with quite a bit of Trump's campaign when he was running for office I did not vote for him because I feel ike the US deserves a better PERSON as President. I don't believe a thrice divorced adulterer who calls people names and can't control himself on Twitter should be President, so I feel fully okay in saying that my principles stand Beto O Rourke has zero business being in politics.

And I've about had it with this "we must hold the other side to a higher standard" regardless of who is doing it

[Abbey Marie]

No. I don't believe so. Not unless it's something criminal or SO bad that anyone in their right mind would fire such a person for whatever accusation, decades later. I can't think of many things. And it sure as hell oughta come with some serious facts to back things up.

Someone using the N word 2-3 decades ago? Who cares. Someone who smoked weed years ago? Who cares. Even if just words of a horrid nature... first context... and then what's been up since those few decades! If someone used the N word, but has never been racist since, who cares?

So no, I don't care that he wrote this weird shit years ago. And hell, even a few on the left are saying "its laughable or insane that they want to bring up stuff from so long ago..." - but that's in the face of the left doing it so many times to people on the right.

I say who cares to a lot of that old shit, and I think the people out there that actively try to get others fired for similar type stuff, are assholes.

And like I said yesterday too... each individual case.

If only our last USSC nominee was given such consideration by the left.

[STTAB]

If only our last USSC nominee was given such consideration by the left.

You would think that average people who are liberals but sane would be speaking out about this bullshit, but they aren't. Look at Noir as an example of that, he's pretty sane by what we see on this board, but he sure won't speak out about the blatant hypocrisy will he.

[LongTermGuy]

He wrote a fictional story when he was 15, that should disqualify him from the presidency.

And Democrats were so Vile / Nasty at the hearings of>>>.....Brett Kavanaugh when he drank some beer in high school (never talked about killing people)...Liberalism truly is a cancer of lies and deceit...

[Abbey Marie]

You would think that average people who are liberals but sane would be speaking out about this bullshit, but they aren't. Look at Noir as an example of that, he's pretty sane by what we see on this board, but he sure won't speak out about the blatant hypocrisy will he.

No, from his history here, the chances are slim to none.

Pete might, if he were around.

[Abbey Marie]

I know that Dems salivate over killing babies. I didn’t know it had extended to children, too.

[STTAB]

And Democrats were so Vile / Nasty at the hearings of>>>.....Brett Kavanaugh when he drank some beer in high school (never talked about killing people)...Liberalism truly is a cancer of lies and deceit...

Liberalism truly is a mental disorder