If You Could, Would You Go Back In Time?

[High_Plains_Drifter]

A comment in the 'What Are You Listening To Now' thread by Tyr prompted me to start this conversation. I wanted to respond but figured a separate thread about it might be better. But Tyr commented that if he could go back in time and live forever in a certain point, he would.

I've often thought about going back in time, and to me, it gives me an uneasy feeling. I see myself going back with the knowledge and age of who I am now, because there wouldn't be much point in it if your memory was erased, but if I ever did go back in time, just the thought of it gives me an odd feeling as though I don't belong there. Not sure why that is, but it does. It might be different if I knew I could leave at any second back to the time I came from. Even though if I knew long ago what I know now, I could be a very rich man, I wouldn't want to live my life over again.

I'm curious how others think about going back in time.

[Abbey Marie]

It all hinges on the ability to come back to the present. If not, then I’ll just stay right here. Just the lack of medical care back in the day, is enough reason.

But, man, if I could make temporary trips, I’d go in a heart beat.

First place I’d go is the Garden of Eden. How cool would that be?
Second is Galilee or Jerusalem around 30 AD. :cool:
Third? Maybe to see my long-ago ancestors in Italy or Greece.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

It all hinges on the ability to come back to the present. If not, then I’ll just stay right here. Just the lack of medical care is enough reason.

But, man, if I could make temporary trips, I’d go in a heart beat.

First place I’d go is the Garden of Eden. How cool would that be?
Second is Galilee or Jerusalem around 30 AD. :cool:
Third? Maybe to see my long-ago ancestors in Italy or Greece.
Say you're limited to only going back in time to the period of your own life.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

A comment in the 'What Are You Listening To Now' thread by Tyr prompted me to start this conversation. I wanted to respond but figured a separate thread about it might be better. But Tyr commented that if he could go back in time and live forever in a certain point, he would.

I've often thought about going back in time, and to me, it gives me an uneasy feeling. I see myself going back with the knowledge and age of who I am now, because there wouldn't be much point in it if your memory was erased, but if I ever did go back in time, just the thought of it gives me an odd feeling as though I don't belong there. Not sure why that is, but it does. It might be different if I knew I could leave at any second back to the time I came from. Even though if I knew long ago what I know now, I could be a very rich man, I wouldn't want to live my life over again.

I'm curious how others think about going back in time.

The idea of going back in time to my youth as a young man to live forever is not without certain restrictions, primary one being that doing so does not erase any of my current life and loved ones born.
It to me was , being split into two people. One that continues here and thus dies, as we all do and the other that goes back to live a certain period of time forever.
Yes,I'd do that in a heartbeat. -Tyr

[High_Plains_Drifter]

The idea of going back in time to my youth as a young man to live forever is not without certain restrictions, primary one being that doing so does not erase any of my current life and loved ones born.
It to me was , being split into two people. One that continues here and thus dies, as we all do and the other that goes back to live a certain period of time forever.
Yes,I'd do that in a heartbeat. -Tyr
Being split into two people simultaneously living two lives but still the same person. Hard one to wrap the head around there, brother Tyr... :laugh:

I don't really have much of a reason to go back in time. My life is about as good right now as it's ever been. The only reason I could think of is financial gain, as in go back and get in on the .com explosion and create Amazon before Bezos does, and/or create Google and so on.

[STTAB]

I would be torn on this one, on the one hand I obviously made mistakes in my life and the temptation to go back and fix those mistakes woud be there, but on the other hand those mistakes helped create the life I live today . For example, without the mistake of marrying my first wife perhaps my current wife wouldn't have been part of my life, and I would not do anything to risk that, including erasing my first marriage.

Now, as far as going back in time to fix "man's" mistakes, that would take some time for me to find the exact moment when some the first man's wife said "I think........." and he didn't just backhand her, that moment right there would be the start of all our current problems.

[LongTermGuy]

Yes....Many "tweaks" I can apply....

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[Abbey Marie]

Say you're limited to only going back in time to the period of your own life.

Less interesting to me, but here goes:

I’d go back and run from the narcissist jerk I had the misfortune to date and get engaged to, pre-Russ. Or first quickly hire a Sicilian relative to “teach him a lesson”, then run.

On a positive note, I’d love to see and re-live my 19th year. Sophomore in college, and I had the time of my life.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

Less interesting to me, but here goes:

I’d go back and run from the narcissist jerk I had the misfortune to date and get engaged to, pre-Russ. Or first quickly hire a Sicilian relative to “teach him a lesson”, then run.

On a positive note, I’d love to see and re-live my 19th year. Sophomore in college, and I had the time of my life.
Question... do you think you'd feel natural being in a past time, or would it make you feel strange?

Am I the only one that it makes me feel weird?

[Elessar]

I have often wondered this topic.

There are some things I would not do again, but others I would
do in a heartbeat.

Some things I would change, others I would leave alone.

Experience can teach you both triumphs and regrets.

[Abbey Marie]

Question... do you think you'd feel natural being in a past time, or would it make you feel strange?

Am I the only one that it makes me feel weird?

I feel strange for a couple of days when I travel, period, so I think it’s a given with time travel. But I also think I’d get over the angst-y part after a while.

Yeah, having a modern brain and culture and being in a past time period would probably be weird.

[Gunny]

The second you step back in time and alter anything you just changed history and will be living a completely different life. With the given that you possess the knowledge you do now. But you're the only one in on the joke for one thing. All you will have as an advantage is experience. Everything else will be new and to be dealt with as it is.

I would not simply because of my kids/grandkids. Otherwise, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

So how about traveling into the future?

I'm a little skeptical of what I'd see. Might not be so good.

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What if you could make time stand still, and you were the only one that could move around?

[Gunny]

So how about traveling into the future?

I'm a little skeptical of what I'd see. Might not be so good.

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What if you could make time stand still, and you were the only one that could move around?F*ck THAT :slap:

In the end, the left is going to win and bring about its own destruction. That's how history rolls. It's already doing both. I'll pass.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

F*ck THAT :slap:

In the end, the left is going to win and bring about its own destruction. That's how history rolls. It's already doing both. I'll pass.
Kinda the way history predicts it. Weird how the very ones that always win are the very ones that bring about the destruction.

Like the saying goes... "THE ROAD TO HELL IS PAVED WITH GOOD INTENTIONS."

[Gunny]

Kinda the way history predicts it. Weird how the very ones that always win are the very ones that bring about the destruction.

Like the saying goes... "THE ROAD TO HELL IS PAVED WITH GOOD INTENTIONS."Progressives. Not matter what "is", they want to change or destroy it. They won't stop until they have destroyed themselves and everyone else along with them. Their intentions are not good. They are to change whatever is there. They try to sell it by cloaking it as good.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

Progressives. Not matter what "is", they want to change or destroy it. They won't stop until they have destroyed themselves and everyone else along with them. Their intentions are not good. They are to change whatever is there. They try to sell it by cloaking it as good.
They think they are... good for them that is... however corrupt they are, the end justifies the means to them, they don't care, but you summed it up pretty good, brother.

[Abbey Marie]

I would never want to travel to the future. It all seems like it will dark, soul-less, and robotic.
And worst of all, treeless.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

I would never want to travel to the future. It all seems like it will dark, soul-less, and robotic.
And worst of all, treeless.
Wonder how far in the future you'd have to go before there's nothing...

[Abbey Marie]

Wonder how far in the future you'd have to go before there's nothing...

If you did travel back in time, what time would you like to see?
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[icansayit]

Knowing what I know now about how the rest of the World feels about U.S. Policies on Terrorists, and THE ENEMIES WITHIN our country today...even in Congress.

If I could go back with the information from today. I believe Harry Truman, and McArthur would have agreed with Patton, and finished WWII by destroying STALIN's aim's at communism, we call Socialism today.
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[Gunny]

Knowing what I know now about how the rest of the World feels about U.S. Policies on Terrorists, and THE ENEMIES WITHIN our country today...even in Congress.

If I could go back with the information from today. I believe Harry Truman, and McArthur would have agreed with Patton, and finished WWII by destroying STALIN's aim's at communism, we call Socialism today.
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"Hi. I'm from the future. Honest."

[LongTermGuy]

Knowing what I know now about how the rest of the World feels about U.S. Policies on Terrorists, and THE ENEMIES WITHIN our country today...even in Congress.

If I could go back with the information from today. I believe Harry Truman, and McArthur would have agreed with Patton, and finished WWII by destroying STALIN's aim's at communism, we call Socialism today.
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"Before you go back In time to do good things for the future...do your home-work (bring info with you of "near future" happenings / events.... of the time in the past you plan on visiting)...Expect to be tested....and have a good escape plan (back to your time machine)"

[Gunny]

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"Before you go back In time to do good things for the future...do your home-work (bring info with you of "near future" happenings / events.... of the time in the past you plan on visiting)...Expect to be tested....and have a good escape plan (back to your time machine)"Like as not you'd end up locked up somewhere if you even tried to tell anyone.

I like the "good escape plan" :laugh:

[LongTermGuy]

Like as not you'd end up locked up somewhere if you even tried to tell anyone.

I like the "good escape plan" :laugh:

Hey we already knew the possibilities and dangers of going in......always have a plan in case caught...after all we are from the future:laugh:


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[High_Plains_Drifter]

If you did travel back in time, what time would you like to see?
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Hmmm... if the point in traveling back in time was simply to witness something, several things come to mind... one, go back to see how the great pyramids were built, two, see the crucifixion of Jesus Christ, and find out what happened to his body with my own eyes, three, actually be in the Rome Colosseum for one if it's great displays... there's probably other things but right off hand, they're not coming to me.

[STTAB]

If I could travel back in time and return to today at my convenience , I'd just flit in an out of history leaving behind innocous items from their future just to mess with people.

Imagine going back to ancient China and just leaving something like a candy bar behind or something LOL. Of course, I'm the sort of guy who guys to the grocery store and tosses random items in people's carts while they aren't looking, so there's that.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

If I could travel back in time and return to today at my convenience , I'd just flit in an out of history leaving behind innocous items from their future just to mess with people.

Imagine going back to ancient China and just leaving something like a candy bar behind or something LOL. Of course, I'm the sort of guy who guys to the grocery store and tosses random items in people's carts while they aren't looking, so there's that.
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[Gunny]

If I could travel back in time and return to today at my convenience , I'd just flit in an out of history leaving behind innocous items from their future just to mess with people.

Imagine going back to ancient China and just leaving something like a candy bar behind or something LOL. Of course, I'm the sort of guy who guys to the grocery store and tosses random items in people's carts while they aren't looking, so there's that.And we've been blaming our kids all these years :laugh:

[STTAB]

And we've been blaming our kids all these years :laugh:

Its especially funny if you can manage to get something like candy, trash bags, and condoms in the same basket :laugh:

[Drummond]

I feel strange for a couple of days when I travel, period, so I think it’s a given with time travel. But I also think I’d get over the angst-y part after a while.

Yeah, having a modern brain and culture and being in a past time period would probably be weird.

That's a 'given', as viable time travel would have to also involve a very great deal of travel through space as well.

It always staggers me to realise that so very few people fail to understand why useful time travel is an impossibility (even Stephen Hawking apparently didn't see it !). If you want to be at any event at all on earth, in the past or the future, you also need to be where the earth WAS, at that time. Our planet travels through space, over many thousands of miles, every single hour ... even every single second. Any time traveller needs to travel whatever distance would be involved over the time to be travelled.

Anyway ... that aside, I'd want to be around to witness some of Britain's 'finest hours' ... maybe when Churchill delivered his 'We will fight them on the beaches' speech. Or, how about being in Trafalgar Square, London, at the time of the VE celebrations ?

[darin]

The problem is, we couldn't affect change on anything that's already happened because it's already happened. That's the rub. Whatever we did would likely lead to the outcome and choices already-made.
Sometimes time would just make matter materialize however - without input or cause. For instance, if I found plans for a time machine in my grandmother's attic, then I built the time machine with the plans - and brought them to my Grandmother for safe keeping 100 years ago...and she put them in her attic...for me to find...to give to her....

And think about this - depending on one's perspective of time, RIGHT NOW my Grandmother is 15 years old. Her Right now is MY right now 90-some years later...100 years I think, by now. It's kinda neat.


It's the time paradoxes and affects that probably drive my theology as well as helps me understand my place in creation.

[SassyLady]

I recently discovered that my grandparents on my dad's side were not, in fact, dead before I was born so I would want to travel back about 40 years and find out why I was never allowed to meet them.

[STTAB]

Kinda the way history predicts it. Weird how the very ones that always win are the very ones that bring about the destruction.

Like the saying goes... "THE ROAD TO HELL IS PAVED WITH GOOD INTENTIONS."

You think the left has good intentions? LOL

[Drummond]

The problem is, we couldn't affect change on anything that's already happened because it's already happened. That's the rub. Whatever we did would likely lead to the outcome and choices already-made.
Sometimes time would just make matter materialize however - without input or cause. For instance, if I found plans for a time machine in my grandmother's attic, then I built the time machine with the plans - and brought them to my Grandmother for safe keeping 100 years ago...and she put them in her attic...for me to find...to give to her....

And think about this - depending on one's perspective of time, RIGHT NOW my Grandmother is 15 years old. Her Right now is MY right now 90-some years later...100 years I think, by now. It's kinda neat.

It's the time paradoxes and affects that probably drive my theology as well as helps me understand my place in creation.

... and, of course, there'd be the impossibility of the paradox resulting. Change something in the past ... and, once changed, you'd have no cause to go back in time to arrange the change that you'd brought about, because you'd never be aware of any need to change anything (it wouldn't actually exist). So ... you'd not make the effort to, which means you'd not make the change. So, the change wouldn't happen, which means, things would be as they were, before that change. Back to square one !!

If time travel were possible, we'd be able to physically make changes ... except ... we can't, not without managing something ultimately impossible. Ergo ... further proof of the impossibility of time travel ?

[Abbey Marie]

You guys are no fun!

[Drummond]

You guys are no fun!

.... sorry .... !!!! :laugh::laugh::sorry:

[STTAB]

I thought Id get more blowback from my "I'd go back in time and backhand the first woman who said "I think"" comment LOL even the women know.............

[SassyLady]

I thought Id get more blowback from my "I'd go back in time and backhand the first woman who said "I think"" comment LOL even the women know.............

No blowback cause we know you're full of %&#*.

[STTAB]

No blowback cause we know you're full of %&#*.

LOL I may or may not be full of shit, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong about women.

[SassyLady]

LOL I may or may not be full of shit, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong about women.


:rolleyes3:

Any man that wants to "backhand" a woman isn't worth debating with.

[Abbey Marie]

:rolleyes3:

Any man that wants to "backhand" a woman isn't worth debating with.

:goodposting:

[Abbey Marie]

I thought Id get more blowback from my "I'd go back in time and backhand the first woman who said "I think"" comment LOL even the women know.............

We have a lot of experience ignoring such things. It’s just not worth replying to.
But since you asked, I’m explaining.

[jimnyc]

I wanna go back about 48 hours, just a mere day or 2.

But before I shove off, I'm gonna print out the lottery results from about every state and jurisdiction possible. Then the horses, a little Jai-alai & basically every sport imaginable that they take bets on. And then everything and anything else that Vegas or elsewhere is willing to take bets on!

Yeah, I understand this will change my life! LOL

But my health, wife, kiddo and everything else should be about the same. I'll just be on rich mofo!!

[High_Plains_Drifter]

That's a 'given', as viable time travel would have to also involve a very great deal of travel through space as well.

It always staggers me to realise that so very few people fail to understand why useful time travel is an impossibility (even Stephen Hawking apparently didn't see it !). If you want to be at any event at all on earth, in the past or the future, you also need to be where the earth WAS, at that time. Our planet travels through space, over many thousands of miles, every single hour ... even every single second. Any time traveller needs to travel whatever distance would be involved over the time to be travelled.

Anyway ... that aside, I'd want to be around to witness some of Britain's 'finest hours' ... maybe when Churchill delivered his 'We will fight them on the beaches' speech. Or, how about being in Trafalgar Square, London, at the time of the VE celebrations ?
You are very astute my friend... I never thought of that.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

The problem is, we couldn't affect change on anything that's already happened because it's already happened. That's the rub. Whatever we did would likely lead to the outcome and choices already-made.
Sometimes time would just make matter materialize however - without input or cause. For instance, if I found plans for a time machine in my grandmother's attic, then I built the time machine with the plans - and brought them to my Grandmother for safe keeping 100 years ago...and she put them in her attic...for me to find...to give to her....

And think about this - depending on one's perspective of time, RIGHT NOW my Grandmother is 15 years old. Her Right now is MY right now 90-some years later...100 years I think, by now. It's kinda neat.


It's the time paradoxes and affects that probably drive my theology as well as helps me understand my place in creation.
Point well taken, and in such indirectly is tacit proof that time travel, thus far, has not been possible, or at least that we're aware of. Of course the only ones that would be aware if the course of history has been changed by a time travel by someone that went back in time would be only the person that did it, and would he/she tell anyone?

[High_Plains_Drifter]

So... if you/I went back in time... would we be looking at ourselves in the past, or would we replace ourselves in that time and space?

If we replaced ourselves in that time and space, we certainly could alter the future by our actions. And if it wasn't yourself in that time and space, as in you were viewing yourself in the past as portrayed in "Back to the Future," if you killed yourself, would you then immediately disappear?

[LongTermGuy]

So... if you/I went back in time... would we be looking at ourselves in the past, or would replace ourselves in that time and space?

If we replaced ourselves in that time and space, we certainly could alter the future by our actions. And if it wasn't yourself in that time and space, as in you were viewing yourself in the past as portrayed in "Back to the Future," if you killed yourself, would you then immediately disappear?

Yes (IMO)......because you never existed...so the past (your past) would change fast (erased) Father time is in charge of all that stuff...:)

[darin]

So... if you/I went back in time... would we be looking at ourselves in the past, or would replace ourselves in that time and space?

If we replaced ourselves in that time and space, we certainly could alter the future by our actions. And if it wasn't yourself in that time and space, as in you were viewing yourself in the past as portrayed in "Back to the Future," if you killed yourself, would you then immediately disappear?

but the thing is, the old stuff already happened. It happened and that cannot be changed. Things that have not yet happen have also already happened if one is looking at things from past the point in time where they have not yet happened. :)

[High_Plains_Drifter]

but the thing is, the old stuff already happened. It happened and that cannot be changed. Things that have not yet happen have also already happened if one is looking at things from past the point in time where they have not yet happened. :)
It's your contention, that if someone went back in time, that they couldn't alter the course of time from that point on?

What if you killed someone when you went back in time? Are you saying that wouldn't happen, because, what happened has already happened and can't be changed... interesting premise... maybe we couldn't alter anything. Maybe we'd find that everything is "locked," and we couldn't alter anything. I guess no one will really know until it's possible to time travel, and I think sooner or later they will find a way to do it, just like they're close to being able to regress a person's age.

Well that blows Back To The Future... :laugh:

[darin]

It's your contention, that if someone went back in time, that they couldn't alter the course of time from that point on?

Not if forward-of-that point stuff had already happened.



What if you killed someone when you went back in time? Are you saying that wouldn't happen, because, what happened has already happened and can't be changed... interesting premise... maybe we couldn't alter anything. Maybe we'd find that everything is "locked," and we couldn't alter anything. I guess no one will really know until it's possible to time travel, and I think sooner or later they will find a way to do it, just like they're close to being able to regress a person's age.

Well that blows Back To The Future... :laugh:

I'm saying the universe would have to somehow create whatever you changed. So if you killed my great grandfather - yet I exist. The universe would have to fill the void. Somehow. It'd mean my grandfather's life after you killed him would still have to happen, because he will not have died until he'd lived his life and had all his grandkids, THEN you could kill him before he did that. After he did it.

#mindbomb

[STTAB]

We have a lot of experience ignoring such things. It’s just not worth replying to.
But since you asked, I’m explaining.

As was stated earlier in the thread

You guys are no fun :laugh2:

[High_Plains_Drifter]

Not if forward-of-that point stuff had already happened.



I'm saying the universe would have to somehow create whatever you changed. So if you killed my great grandfather - yet I exist. The universe would have to fill the void. Somehow. It'd mean my grandfather's life after you killed him would still have to happen, because he will not have died until he'd lived his life and had all his grandkids, THEN you could kill him before he did that. After he did it.

#mindbomb
I'm kinda following ya there, bro, but not entirely. Einstein said that energy can neither be created or destroyed, that it only takes a different shape or form. I guess you can compare that to people, because we do have energy. Our entire nervous system is ran on electrical impulses. So... near as I can figure, what you're kinda getting at is, I surmise, that if I killed your grandpaw, which, I hate that premise... I'm no killer... but let's go with that, if I went back in time and killed your grandpa, then where would his energy go that existed in the future? It would have to go somewhere. It couldn't just disappear.

Am I close to what you mean? It's an interesting theory. One I never thought about.

[darin]

I'm kinda following ya there, bro, but not entirely. Einstein said that energy can neither be created or destroyed, that it only takes a different shape or form. I guess you can compare that to people, because we do have energy. Our entire nervous system is ran on electrical impulses. So... near as I can figure, what you're kinda getting at is, I surmise, that if I killed your grandpaw, which, I hate that premise... I'm no killer... but let's go with that, if I went back in time and killed your grandpa, then where would his energy go that existed in the future? It would have to go somewhere. It couldn't just disappear.

Am I close to what you mean? It's an interesting theory. One I never thought about.


Doesn't mean Einstein is right. It just means the universe would have to create the missing pieces. Because those pieces would have to happen. His energy wouldn't go anywhere in that time stream per se - because he will not have died then until you killed him now. Back then. That's the entire crux of time travel.


Time happens all at once in a way. Right now it is 100 years ago for the people 100 years ago. If we looked down upon the stream of time we could see everything at once. So for our 'now' we see past present and future.

So - If somebody went back and killed Hitler, say, but they did not kill him until MY today. TODAY someone went back in killed hitler - up until that point hitler lived.

OOH - and get this, if someone decided yesterday to go back and kill hitler tomorrow then comes back to the same day he left, there would be nothing to come back to really, because he would have had no reason to decide to kill on for the person to have grown up, trained, and decided yesterday to kill hitler in the first place. So once he killed hitler he could not have ever gone back to kill him in the first place because all that history - that lead him to yesterday's choice to go back - would never have happened. Or DID it?

See? (sigh)

[Drummond]

Doesn't mean Einstein is right. It just means the universe would have to create the missing pieces. Because those pieces would have to happen. His energy wouldn't go anywhere in that time stream per se - because he will not have died then until you killed him now. Back then. That's the entire crux of time travel.


Time happens all at once in a way. Right now it is 100 years ago for the people 100 years ago. If we looked down upon the stream of time we could see everything at once. So for our 'now' we see past present and future.

So - If somebody went back and killed Hitler, say, but they did not kill him until MY today. TODAY someone went back in killed hitler - up until that point hitler lived.

OOH - and get this, if someone decided yesterday to go back and kill hitler tomorrow then comes back to the same day he left, there would be nothing to come back to really, because he would have had no reason to decide to kill on for the person to have grown up, trained, and decided yesterday to kill hitler in the first place. So once he killed hitler he could not have ever gone back to kill him in the first place because all that history - that lead him to yesterday's choice to go back - would never have happened. Or DID it?

See? (sigh)

In other words, killing Hitler would create a completely impossible paradox. The supposed time traveller would have no reason to want to change history, if history had been changed !! Said individual could only be conscious of one history. Hitler couldn't have been killed by a time traveller if the traveller wasn't conscious of a need to commit the act, which is what a revised history would say had happened. If no intention could exist, no such journey would take place, therefore, Hitler wouldn't have been murdered.

[Besides ... as I said before, the Earth constantly moves in space (as does the Sun it orbits, as does the galaxy it's in, & as do all galaxies). You have to be in the precise location where Hitler was, on the day in question ... on an Earth which, by that point, probably would've been BILLIONS of miles distant in space from the time traveller's starting-point !!]

[darin]

In other words, killing Hitler would create a completely impossible paradox. The supposed time traveller would have no reason to want to change history, if history had been changed !! Said individual could only be conscious of one history. Hitler couldn't have been killed by a time traveller if the traveller wasn't conscious of a need to commit the act, which is what a revised history would say had happened. If no intention could exist, no such journey would take place, therefore, Hitler wouldn't have been murdered.

[Besides ... as I said before, the Earth constantly moves in space (as does the Sun it orbits, as does the galaxy it's in, & as do all galaxies). You have to be in the precise location where Hitler was, on the day in question ... on an Earth which, by that point, probably would've been BILLIONS of miles distant in space from the time traveller's starting-point !!]


Yep. :)

[Noir]

As a witness of events (as a pose to an actor in them) I would narrow the list to 3 -

To see the building of the greatest Egyptian pyramids, to completion and full glory.

Back many billions of years experience the scene of obliteration - the impact of a body on our planet that is believed to of created the Moon.

Finally back to the 1600s to witness with the last supernova in our galaxy, with Kepler.

[STTAB]

You buzz killing nerds lol the question wasn't "is time travel possible" the question was "if it was , what would you change?"

[Abbey Marie]

You buzz killing nerds lol the question wasn't "is time travel possible" the question was "if it was , what would you change?"

:laugh: Seriously!

(Actually, the question was, if you could go back in time, would you?)

[darin]

[Besides ... as I said before, the Earth constantly moves in space (as does the Sun it orbits, as does the galaxy it's in, & as do all galaxies). You have to be in the precise location where Hitler was, on the day in question ... on an Earth which, by that point, probably would've been BILLIONS of miles distant in space from the time traveller's starting-point !!]

it's a vortex.

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