The Thread Showcasing lies by truthmatters

[darin]

here's one lie - "Conservatives don't want to do anything for their country":


He is asking for peopel to do it on their own not sugesting a law against them.

Dont ask a con what he can do for his country they dont want to do anything for their country.

I'm a conservative and I 'do' for my country everyday...on top of 6 years Active Duty. Oh, and I pay taxes too.

[darin]

Another Lie -


Where is the proof of any of this utter blather?

Science instructors are right wing?HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Dr are Right Wing?HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH!

dude your funny

in that post, she's claiming ANOTHER member said something they clearly did NOT. She's purposely twisting the other person's comment. That's a lie.

[darin]

Another lie. She KNOWS her statement is impossible. Yet she presents it as fact.


...every other leader in this world (thinks) Bush is bad for the entire world not Just America.

[truthmatters]

how many times have you people infered that the actions of the other side have nothing but Unpatriotic motives?

These are opinions not lies just like when you state the same type of things.

[darin]

"The Right" - Conservatives, if you will, HATE higher Education:


The Right has hated...higer education and attacked teachers as the problem for...many years

FWIW, I'm leaving in all her spelling.grammar errors.

[darin]

how many times have you people infered that the actions of the other side have nothing but Unpatriotic motives?


3? Eleventy? What's your point? This is about YOU and what YOU say. The ideas and mindsets LIBERALS have are detrimental to our society. Liberals HURT society. That's an opinion. Liberals WANT to do stuff for our country - but the crap they want to do will HARM us.

YOUR statement "Conservatives do not want to do anything for their country" is a LIE.

See the difference?

[truthmatters]

This is the same thing as the last one its simply opinion.

Note I did not say all consevitives or all the right.

I do believe there are republicans and conservitives who love this country more than party and are willing to do what ever it takes to keep it beig the bastion of freedom and respect is has been for hundereds of years now.

The only way to do that however is to steer it back on course when it goes off course.

I have found lately that many right leaning people seem to be honoring party over truth and Country.

I want the conservitives I respect to take back the Republican party and return it to its rightious path.

You see my party needs your party healthy and wise to keep us healthy and wise.

I believe in the two party system.

[darin]

See - that is a fair statement of your opinion. NOT the "Lie" That "Conservatives dont want to do anything for their country."

You are LEARNING, and that's a good thing.

[nevadamedic]

See - that is a fair statement of your opinion. NOT the "Lie" That "Conservatives dont want to do anything for their country."

You are LEARNING, and that's a good thing.

You left out the lies she was trying to spread about Governor Jim Gibbons (R-NV) when she was not involved in the situation, didn't have the facts and doesn't know what exactly happened. I know I was there.

[darin]

You left out the lies she was trying to spread about Governor Jim Gibbons (R-NV) when she was not involved in the situation, didn't have the facts and doesn't know what exactly happened. I know I was there.

Post-up! :)

[Trigg]

This is the same thing as the last one its simply opinion.

Note I did not say all consevitives or all the right.

I do believe there are republicans and conservitives who love this country more than party and are willing to do what ever it takes to keep it beig the bastion of freedom and respect is has been for hundereds of years now.

The only way to do that however is to steer it back on course when it goes off course.

I have found lately that many right leaning people seem to be honoring party over truth and Country.

I want the conservitives I respect to take back the Republican party and return it to its rightious path.

You see my party needs your party healthy and wise to keep us healthy and wise.

I believe in the two party system.


:clap: congrats, I don't think I've ever seen someone back peddle that fast

[truthmatters]

You left out the lies she was trying to spread about Governor Jim Gibbons (R-NV) when she was not involved in the situation, didn't have the facts and doesn't know what exactly happened. I know I was there.

Maybe you missed the evidence the FBI is using to investigate Jim Gibbons as we speak?
http://tinyurl.com/28d2bo

In an exclusive interview with NBC, Montgomery — who's now at war with his former partner — makes an explosive charge. He says that near the end of the cruise, he saw Trepp pass money to the congressman.

Dennis Montgomery: There was a lot of alcohol and a lot of drinking. And that's when I first saw Warren give Jim Gibbons money.

Lisa Myers: How much?

Montgomery: Close to $100,000.

Myers: How can you know?

Montgomery: Because he gave him casino chips and cash.

Myers: Are you sure about what you saw?

Montgomery: I'm absolutely, positively sure.

So sure that Montgomery has made the same allegations in federal court. Montgomery's wife also says she saw Trepp pass casino chips to Gibbons. In addition, Montgomery provided NBC with hundreds of e-mails, he says, from Trepp's computer.

Days before the cruise, Trepp's wife e-mails her husband: "Please don't forget to bring the money you promised Jim and Dawn on the trip."

Hours later, Trepp e-mails back: "Don't ever send this kind of message to me! Erase this message from your computer now!"

There also is a paper trail showing Gibbons helped Trepp's company, eTreppid, get government contracts.

In a 2003 e-mail, an eTreppid executive tells Trepp that Gibbons helped secure a contract and "we need to take care of him like we discussed." Two years later, the same executive writes, "He [Gibbons] has always been really good to us."


There is documentation that Gibbons was paying and being paid off.

He is in big trouble and wilkl go down eve though they tried to stop the investigation into him by firing a Nevada DOJ attorney to stop the investigations into him.

[nevadamedic]

Post-up! :)

From the thread How to cure the Liberal Disease.




http://tinyurl.com/22zd56

lets see now he is under investigation for bribery

Commited plagerism
sexual harrasment problems
hiring Illegals

man this guy if filthy and has like a 28% approval rating



My Response:

The sexual harassment claim was funny as the lady making the claim was a part of the Titus Campaign. The security tape of the parking garage when this supposed incident happened showed that Governor Gibbons was in fact not in the parking garage at all that night let alone the time of the incident. It was analized by the FBI who made the reccomendation to clear Gibbons of all charges as it was proved that they were false accusations.

The illegegal claim was a one time house keeper who had a temporary work visa and who was trying to get her citizenship. When she tried to blackmail Dawn Gibbons she was fired and has had hard feelings ever since.

The bribery claim was even funnier as he was trying to promote a business from his home state. What makes it funny is that Senator Reid and Congresswoman Berkley was also involved with Warren Trepp as much as if not more then Governor Gibbons but you never hear their names mentioned, hmmmmmm.

I have known Governor Gibbons for a very long time. Not only would he not commit such acts he in incapable of doing such things. You make accusations and remarks about someone you do not know and have never met simply because you heard Dina Titus(who has one of the most tarnished records in the State Senate, she isn't even liked by her own party) who I also have known for a couple years who is a known liar and who will do anything or say anything to get elected.

It's funny how in one thread that you advocate for illegals but in this thread you attack someone for hiring someone with a temporary work card, can we say hipocrit but what else can we expect from you.

[nevadamedic]

Maybe you missed the evidence the FBI is using to investigate Jim Gibbons as we speak?
http://tinyurl.com/28d2bo

In an exclusive interview with NBC, Montgomery — who's now at war with his former partner — makes an explosive charge. He says that near the end of the cruise, he saw Trepp pass money to the congressman.

Dennis Montgomery: There was a lot of alcohol and a lot of drinking. And that's when I first saw Warren give Jim Gibbons money.

Lisa Myers: How much?

Montgomery: Close to $100,000.

Myers: How can you know?

Montgomery: Because he gave him casino chips and cash.

Myers: Are you sure about what you saw?

Montgomery: I'm absolutely, positively sure.

So sure that Montgomery has made the same allegations in federal court. Montgomery's wife also says she saw Trepp pass casino chips to Gibbons. In addition, Montgomery provided NBC with hundreds of e-mails, he says, from Trepp's computer.

Days before the cruise, Trepp's wife e-mails her husband: "Please don't forget to bring the money you promised Jim and Dawn on the trip."

Hours later, Trepp e-mails back: "Don't ever send this kind of message to me! Erase this message from your computer now!"

There also is a paper trail showing Gibbons helped Trepp's company, eTreppid, get government contracts.

In a 2003 e-mail, an eTreppid executive tells Trepp that Gibbons helped secure a contract and "we need to take care of him like we discussed." Two years later, the same executive writes, "He [Gibbons] has always been really good to us."


There is documentation that Gibbons was paying and being paid off.

He is in big trouble and wilkl go down eve though they tried to stop the investigation into him by firing a Nevada DOJ attorney to stop the investigations into him.

Once again:

Damnit your ignorant. That article is inaccurate. Anyone can edit and post in Wikipedia and none of its verified. Bogden cleared Gibbons of any wrong doing. Bogden was fired for not going after cases aggressivley. You will not win this one. You have no fucking clue about the situation. I was there I was one of the campaign leaders. I dont back anyone that commits criminal acts. I am the first one to call a Republican elected official out if they do something wrong. Gibbons has done nothing wrong period.

If you are going to believe the lies that witch Titus says then I feel bad for you. Like I said I know Dina and she is a nasty, mean and rude person. She did everything she could to try to win, including unethical means. One of them she got a major fine, but I dont see you talking about that so I will. On night in Reno about 40 of her campaign signs went missing and she reported it to the police blaming the Gibbons Campaign for it. One of her staff members who realized that what she was doing was wrong told the police that her campaign was involved and took them to their warehouse that held the signs. The funny thing is that they would make assresses on the back of the signs in perminant marker and every address was an address where a sign was reported stolen.

It's funny how you quote another thing you only know about from the media. What the media didn't say is Montgomery had a suit filed against Trepp to get control of the company. Don't you think it would be in his best interest to lie to the media about this incident so his former partner gets in a shitload of trouble? Then the company is Montgomery's for the taking. He had a major incentive to lie and he did lie.


You are taking everything the media says to heart. Until you have first hand information like I do SHUT THE FUCK UP about things that you have no clue about.

[darin]

You are taking everything the media says to heart. Until you have first hand information like I do SHUT THE FUCK UP about things that you have no clue about.


Playing Devil's advocate - without back-up sources, one's argument loses strength. For example, I could talk about some army movements - but since I can't show anybody the source documents, it'd be just me yaking. Know what I mean? You may have first-hand info...but first-hand info w/o references doesn't convince a lot of people.

[truthmatters]

From the thread How to cure the Liberal Disease.



My Response:

The sexual harassment claim was funny as the lady making the claim was a part of the Titus Campaign. (Do you have any proof of this claim I would really lik to see it ,it is something I have never heard of)The security tape of the parking garage when this supposed incident happened showed that Governor Gibbons was in fact not in the parking garage at all that night let alone the time of the incident. It was analized by the FBI who made the reccomendation to clear Gibbons of all charges as it was proved that they were false accusations.(He made a statement about walking her to her car from what I read)

The illegegal claim was a one time house keeper who had a temporary work visa and who was trying to get her citizenship. When she tried to blackmail Dawn Gibbons she was fired and has had hard feelings ever since.

The bribery claim was even funnier as he was trying to promote a business from his home state. What makes it funny is that Senator Reid and Congresswoman Berkley was also involved with Warren Trepp as much as if not more then Governor Gibbons but you never hear their names mentioned, hmmmmmm.( they have not been accused of anything and the FBI is not investigating them are they)

I have known Governor Gibbons for a very long time. Not only would he not commit such acts he in incapable of doing such things.(Im sure you would not take my personal relationship with anyone as proof of their innocence) You make accusations and remarks about someone you do not know and have never met simply because you heard Dina Titus(I heard nothing from her I get my information from the news and the internet)(who has one of the most tarnished records in the State Senate, she isn't even liked by her own party) who I also have known for a couple years who is a known liar and who will do anything or say anything to get elected.

It's funny how in one thread that you advocate for illegals but in this thread you attack someone for hiring someone with a temporary work card, can we say hipocrit but what else can we expect from you.( I attacked no one and only stated what was in the record)


The FBI is investigating the man and the DOJ attorney who was a Bush appointee was fired after trying to look into Gibbons.

[nevadamedic]

Playing Devil's advocate - without back-up sources, one's argument loses strength. For example, I could talk about some army movements - but since I can't show anybody the source documents, it'd be just me yaking. Know what I mean? You may have first-hand info...but first-hand info w/o references doesn't convince a lot of people.

Being charges either wern't filed or were dropped is good evidence on my behalf.

[PostmodernProphet]

"The Right" - Conservatives, if you will, HATE higher Education

now if he had said "higher educators" he might have had a point.....

[nevadamedic]

( I attacked no one and only stated what was in the record)


The FBI is investigating the man and the DOJ attorney who was a Bush appointee was fired after trying to look into Gibbons.

Ok, lets break this down.

(Do you have any proof of this claim I would really lik to see it ,it is something I have never heard of)

Pull Dina's campaign contrabution report. The lady who claimed this donated to Dina's Campaign two months before the incident. That is just one of the many things. The hell you havent heard about it, it was all over the news, I think you may have selective hearing.

(He made a statement about walking her to her car from what I read)

He walked her out of the Restuarant. He went one way she went the other.

( they have not been accused of anything and the FBI is not investigating them are they)

The hell they haven't. You just haven't heard about it because the media here in Nevada loves Harry Reid, Buckley and Titus. I have met Warren Trepp, he himself talked about Governor Gibbons doing nothing wrong and if they are going after the Governor they should be going after these other two as well.

(Im sure you would not take my personal relationship with anyone as proof of their innocence)

Thats not true. Gibbons is the kindest and the most moral man I have ever met. I even trusted my daughter with him. I have had the chance to get to know him and the First Lady and I suggest you do the same before you make statements about his morality. If you got to know him I guarantee you would not make those statements anymore. If you would like to meet him I can arrange for you to be at one of the events he will be at in Southern Nevada.

(I heard nothing from her I get my information from the news and the internet)

Where do you think the news and the internet got thier information? Dina Titus had a close relationship with the media and different networks, they even contributed to her campaign. There is a clear bias on the news so you can not believe what they say about anything or anyone.

Why don't I hear you talk about her threatening and leaving harassing messages on her students answering machines for not supporting her? It was all over the news, they played the actual tapes......... Clearly your hipocritical nature I guess. What about the sign stealing that was traced back to her? Hmmmmm.........

(I attacked no one and only stated what was in the record)

What record would that be? Oh thats right what the media says is law for Liberals. It's not like the media is not capable of lying or exadurating a story........... :lame2:

The FBI is investigating the man and the DOJ attorney who was a Bush appointee was fired after trying to look into Gibbons.

Once again, read what I posted earlier. That attorney cleared Governor Gibbons of ANY wrongdoing what so ever before he got fired. It's also funny that you think Governor Gibbons has that kind of pull with the Bush Administration, which he doesn't. They doing get along with eachother over what happened with former Governor Kenny Guinn. Thats why President Bush wasn't here campaigning for Governor Gibbons, he was only here campaigning for Congressman Dean Heller and Senator John Ensign. This attorney was fired for not doing his job and not prosecuting cases aggressively. He would almost never goto trial and always plea bargain to a way lesser crime with often little or no jail time.

It's funny as the newly elected Attorney General(Who is a democrat I might add) for the State Of Nevada reviewed this attorney's record, file and history and she had said that if he was a part of her office she would have fired him as well. He was a horrible attorney that had a weak stance on crime.

[Pale Rider]

We can now add the fact that liesmatter is a racist and a bigot.