jimnyc
12-28-2018, 02:54 PM
We have been lead to believe that Trump is Hitler reincarnated and his desire to put up a wall to help fight illegal immigration and drug smuggling, is actually a racist agenda.
I've already discussed the many and current democrats who have once before fought for a wall of sorts and funding for barriers and then some (barriers, truck barriers, manned outlets, drones...). But what about other countries that have walls?
This isn't much discussed, but I believe we have right here a few times. I believe even Mexico has a wall to help their own country. Some who have complained, like the Pope, live behind the safety given by a wall.
There are many many articles out there discussing the walls, so I'll start with this one and a list. And then from there on, there is a shitload of factual evidence out there of specifically which countries have walls, from when they were erected, how long they have been in use, the amount of miles & more...
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Countries With Border Walls
The proposed wall between the United States and Mexico has been heavy in the news as of late. However, did you know that there are countries in the world who already have border walls?
A border barrier separating territories is not new to the world. In fact, before the geographical positioning technology, physical features or humanmade walls were used to separate different territories for protection and other reasons. The Great Wall of China was built many years ago to separate the country from empires of the north, and the Berlin Wall was erected to separate the ideologically different West and East Berlin. Today, there are several border barriers between different countries. There are many reasons as to why these boundaries exist with the most common being the need to control who goes in or out of the country.
Countries With Border Walls
United States
Unknown to many, the US constructed 81 miles long border wall to separate it from Mexico. The border was erected to curb illegal migration from Mexico into the US and to stop illegal drug smuggling. There have been calls for extending the border, but these have not been implemented. In 2016, then-Presidential Candidate Donald Trump arose controversy by campaigning on a platform that included the completion of the border wall.
Many argue that the existing border wall has helped protect Americans. On the other hand, many also argue that the border contravenes the spirit of regional integration. Many say countries should open their borders and not close them. Additionally, many people who are escaping different forms of abuses from Mexico have been affected and trade opportunities between the two countries have been reduced. The wall has also made it hard for legal migration to occur from Mexico. Environmentally, the border barrier has affected wild animal migration patterns and put many animals in danger from hunting and other human activities. The wall has also separated several indigenous communities within North America. Many people have also died trying to cross the border into the US while others have paid extravagant amounts to be snuck in through cartel-controlled smuggling tunnels.
Korea
North and South Korea have a wall in between them. The border barrier includes the Panmunjom, the Military Demarcation Line, and the Demilitarized Zone. The Panmunjom is located where the 1953 Korean Armistice Agreement that stopped the Korean War was signed. The Panmunjom is home to the Joint Security Area where soldiers of the two countries meet and discuss security matters though each side seat in their territories separated on either side of the Military Demarcation Line. The Military Demarcation Line (DML), also known as the Armistice Line, is a 154 mile long separation between the two countries. The DML is sandwiched between the Demilitarized Zone that was established in 1953. The Korean barrier has ensured security and cooperation between the two Koreas. More so, the barriers have protected South Korea from the unpredictable North Korea and confined communist systems to the North and Capitalism to the South.
On the other hand, the border lines have separated the two nations who have much in common both culturally, and historically. There are no trade or border activities between the two countries as the North does not want its citizens to cross to the South. In many cases, North Korea captures, detains and tortures its citizens attempting to cross to the South while some die trying to cross it.
Israel
Israel has several border walls separating its territories from some of its neighbors. Historically, Israel has experienced several international attacks from countries who feel that Israel should not exist as a country in that area. The first border was built in the 1950s in Jerusalem to separate Jordanian and Israeli territories of the city. The west bank wall was also built to separate Jerusalem from other parts of the city. There are also barriers separating Israel from Syria and Lebanon though it is not a wall, but a series of sophisticated military installations. Other Israeli border walls include Israel-Jordan walls, Israel-Gaza barrier, and a proposed Israel-Egypt border. According to Israel, these borders protect the country from the constant threat of terrorist attacks, illegal movement of people and goods smuggling.
However, these walls also act as a barrier to unique religious and historical features. Within modern-day Israel and Jerusalem are important religious sites for the Jewish, Muslim, and Christian faiths and therefore erecting walls may hinder visitors from fully exploring the areas. Instead of bringing security, these walls have acted as symbols of animosity among nations. The barriers also act as a barrier to the much-needed inter-religious dialogue and tolerance.
Future Trends
Though border barriers, in some cases, are important in curbing illegal cross-border activities, sometimes erecting such barriers are counterproductive and create more suspicion and animosity. There is a total of 20 completed border barriers in the world, seven under construction, 1 planned, and five proposed. This trend is set to go up as more countries are planning to build walls along international borders.
Countries With Border Walls
India-Bangladesh
Pakistan-Afghanistan
Ukraine-Russia
Turkmenistan-Uzbekistan
India-Burma
China-North Korea
Mexico-United States
Saudi Arabia-Iraq
Uzbekistan-Kyrgyzstan
Iran-Pakistan
Costa Rica-Nicaragua
Malaysia-Thailand
India-Pakistan
Botswana-Zimbabwe
Slovenia-Croatia
Belize-Guatemala
North Korea-South Korea
South Africa-Zimbabwe
Uzbekistan-Afghanistan
Kuwait-Iraq
Hungary-Serbia
South Africa-Mozambique
Estonia-Russia
Saudi Arabia-Yemen
Kazakhstan-Uzbekistan
Hungary-Croatia
China-Hong Kong
Macedonia-Greece
Bulgaria-Turkey
Brunei-Malaysia
Spain (Melilla)-Morroco
Spain (Ceuta)-Morroco
Egypt-Palestine
Rest - https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/countries-with-border-walls.html
World of walls: How 65 countries have erected fences on their borders – four times as many as when the Berlin Wall was toppled – as governments try to hold back the tide of migrants
--Security fears and a widespread refusal to help refugees have fuelled a new spate of wall-building around the world
--A third of the world's countries have completed or are building barriers – compared to 16 at the fall of the Berlin Wall
--They include Israel's 'apartheid wall', India's 2,500-mile fence around Bangladesh and Morocco's huge sand 'berm'
--Experts are dismissive, saying: 'Their main function is theatre. They provide the sense of security, not real security'
Globalisation was supposed to tear down barriers, but security fears and a widespread refusal to help migrants and refugees have fuelled a new spate of wall-building across the world, with a third of the world's countries constructing them along their borders.
When the Berlin Wall was torn down a quarter-century ago, there were 16 border fences around the world.
Today, there are 65 either completed or under construction, according to Quebec University expert Elisabeth Vallet.
From Israel's separation barrier (or 'apartheid wall' as it is known by the Palestinians), to the 2,500-mile barbed-wire fence India is building around Bangladesh, to the enormous sand 'berm' that separates Morocco from rebel-held parts of the Western Sahara – walls and fences are ever-more popular with politicians wanting to look tough on migration and security.
US presidential hopeful Donald Trump has made plans for a wall along the border with Mexico – to keep out what he called 'criminals, drug dealers, rapists' – central to his inflammatory campaign.
Yet experts say there is little proof of their effectiveness in stopping people crossing borders.
In July, Hungary's right-wing government began building a four-metre-high (13 feet) fence along its border with Serbia to stanch the flow of refugees from Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan.
'We have only recently taken down walls in Europe; we should not be putting them up,' was one EU spokesperson's exasperated response.
Three other countries – Kenya, Saudi Arabia and Turkey – are all constructing border fences in a bid to keep out jihadist groups next door in Somalia, Iraq and Syria.
Seven miles of barrier have already been erected along the border at Reyhanli town in Hatay province - a main point for smuggling and border-crossing from Syria - the private Dogan news agency said.
The fence in Turkey will eventually stretch for 28 miles along a key stretch of its border with Syria.
But the Turkish wall pales into insignificance when compared to the multi-layered fence which will one day stretch 600 miles from Jordan to Kuwait along Saudi's border with Iraq - a line of defence against ISIS.
Rest - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3205724/How-65-countries-erected-security-walls-borders.html
I've already discussed the many and current democrats who have once before fought for a wall of sorts and funding for barriers and then some (barriers, truck barriers, manned outlets, drones...). But what about other countries that have walls?
This isn't much discussed, but I believe we have right here a few times. I believe even Mexico has a wall to help their own country. Some who have complained, like the Pope, live behind the safety given by a wall.
There are many many articles out there discussing the walls, so I'll start with this one and a list. And then from there on, there is a shitload of factual evidence out there of specifically which countries have walls, from when they were erected, how long they have been in use, the amount of miles & more...
---
Countries With Border Walls
The proposed wall between the United States and Mexico has been heavy in the news as of late. However, did you know that there are countries in the world who already have border walls?
A border barrier separating territories is not new to the world. In fact, before the geographical positioning technology, physical features or humanmade walls were used to separate different territories for protection and other reasons. The Great Wall of China was built many years ago to separate the country from empires of the north, and the Berlin Wall was erected to separate the ideologically different West and East Berlin. Today, there are several border barriers between different countries. There are many reasons as to why these boundaries exist with the most common being the need to control who goes in or out of the country.
Countries With Border Walls
United States
Unknown to many, the US constructed 81 miles long border wall to separate it from Mexico. The border was erected to curb illegal migration from Mexico into the US and to stop illegal drug smuggling. There have been calls for extending the border, but these have not been implemented. In 2016, then-Presidential Candidate Donald Trump arose controversy by campaigning on a platform that included the completion of the border wall.
Many argue that the existing border wall has helped protect Americans. On the other hand, many also argue that the border contravenes the spirit of regional integration. Many say countries should open their borders and not close them. Additionally, many people who are escaping different forms of abuses from Mexico have been affected and trade opportunities between the two countries have been reduced. The wall has also made it hard for legal migration to occur from Mexico. Environmentally, the border barrier has affected wild animal migration patterns and put many animals in danger from hunting and other human activities. The wall has also separated several indigenous communities within North America. Many people have also died trying to cross the border into the US while others have paid extravagant amounts to be snuck in through cartel-controlled smuggling tunnels.
Korea
North and South Korea have a wall in between them. The border barrier includes the Panmunjom, the Military Demarcation Line, and the Demilitarized Zone. The Panmunjom is located where the 1953 Korean Armistice Agreement that stopped the Korean War was signed. The Panmunjom is home to the Joint Security Area where soldiers of the two countries meet and discuss security matters though each side seat in their territories separated on either side of the Military Demarcation Line. The Military Demarcation Line (DML), also known as the Armistice Line, is a 154 mile long separation between the two countries. The DML is sandwiched between the Demilitarized Zone that was established in 1953. The Korean barrier has ensured security and cooperation between the two Koreas. More so, the barriers have protected South Korea from the unpredictable North Korea and confined communist systems to the North and Capitalism to the South.
On the other hand, the border lines have separated the two nations who have much in common both culturally, and historically. There are no trade or border activities between the two countries as the North does not want its citizens to cross to the South. In many cases, North Korea captures, detains and tortures its citizens attempting to cross to the South while some die trying to cross it.
Israel
Israel has several border walls separating its territories from some of its neighbors. Historically, Israel has experienced several international attacks from countries who feel that Israel should not exist as a country in that area. The first border was built in the 1950s in Jerusalem to separate Jordanian and Israeli territories of the city. The west bank wall was also built to separate Jerusalem from other parts of the city. There are also barriers separating Israel from Syria and Lebanon though it is not a wall, but a series of sophisticated military installations. Other Israeli border walls include Israel-Jordan walls, Israel-Gaza barrier, and a proposed Israel-Egypt border. According to Israel, these borders protect the country from the constant threat of terrorist attacks, illegal movement of people and goods smuggling.
However, these walls also act as a barrier to unique religious and historical features. Within modern-day Israel and Jerusalem are important religious sites for the Jewish, Muslim, and Christian faiths and therefore erecting walls may hinder visitors from fully exploring the areas. Instead of bringing security, these walls have acted as symbols of animosity among nations. The barriers also act as a barrier to the much-needed inter-religious dialogue and tolerance.
Future Trends
Though border barriers, in some cases, are important in curbing illegal cross-border activities, sometimes erecting such barriers are counterproductive and create more suspicion and animosity. There is a total of 20 completed border barriers in the world, seven under construction, 1 planned, and five proposed. This trend is set to go up as more countries are planning to build walls along international borders.
Countries With Border Walls
India-Bangladesh
Pakistan-Afghanistan
Ukraine-Russia
Turkmenistan-Uzbekistan
India-Burma
China-North Korea
Mexico-United States
Saudi Arabia-Iraq
Uzbekistan-Kyrgyzstan
Iran-Pakistan
Costa Rica-Nicaragua
Malaysia-Thailand
India-Pakistan
Botswana-Zimbabwe
Slovenia-Croatia
Belize-Guatemala
North Korea-South Korea
South Africa-Zimbabwe
Uzbekistan-Afghanistan
Kuwait-Iraq
Hungary-Serbia
South Africa-Mozambique
Estonia-Russia
Saudi Arabia-Yemen
Kazakhstan-Uzbekistan
Hungary-Croatia
China-Hong Kong
Macedonia-Greece
Bulgaria-Turkey
Brunei-Malaysia
Spain (Melilla)-Morroco
Spain (Ceuta)-Morroco
Egypt-Palestine
Rest - https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/countries-with-border-walls.html
World of walls: How 65 countries have erected fences on their borders – four times as many as when the Berlin Wall was toppled – as governments try to hold back the tide of migrants
--Security fears and a widespread refusal to help refugees have fuelled a new spate of wall-building around the world
--A third of the world's countries have completed or are building barriers – compared to 16 at the fall of the Berlin Wall
--They include Israel's 'apartheid wall', India's 2,500-mile fence around Bangladesh and Morocco's huge sand 'berm'
--Experts are dismissive, saying: 'Their main function is theatre. They provide the sense of security, not real security'
Globalisation was supposed to tear down barriers, but security fears and a widespread refusal to help migrants and refugees have fuelled a new spate of wall-building across the world, with a third of the world's countries constructing them along their borders.
When the Berlin Wall was torn down a quarter-century ago, there were 16 border fences around the world.
Today, there are 65 either completed or under construction, according to Quebec University expert Elisabeth Vallet.
From Israel's separation barrier (or 'apartheid wall' as it is known by the Palestinians), to the 2,500-mile barbed-wire fence India is building around Bangladesh, to the enormous sand 'berm' that separates Morocco from rebel-held parts of the Western Sahara – walls and fences are ever-more popular with politicians wanting to look tough on migration and security.
US presidential hopeful Donald Trump has made plans for a wall along the border with Mexico – to keep out what he called 'criminals, drug dealers, rapists' – central to his inflammatory campaign.
Yet experts say there is little proof of their effectiveness in stopping people crossing borders.
In July, Hungary's right-wing government began building a four-metre-high (13 feet) fence along its border with Serbia to stanch the flow of refugees from Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan.
'We have only recently taken down walls in Europe; we should not be putting them up,' was one EU spokesperson's exasperated response.
Three other countries – Kenya, Saudi Arabia and Turkey – are all constructing border fences in a bid to keep out jihadist groups next door in Somalia, Iraq and Syria.
Seven miles of barrier have already been erected along the border at Reyhanli town in Hatay province - a main point for smuggling and border-crossing from Syria - the private Dogan news agency said.
The fence in Turkey will eventually stretch for 28 miles along a key stretch of its border with Syria.
But the Turkish wall pales into insignificance when compared to the multi-layered fence which will one day stretch 600 miles from Jordan to Kuwait along Saudi's border with Iraq - a line of defence against ISIS.
Rest - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3205724/How-65-countries-erected-security-walls-borders.html