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Pale Rider
08-28-2007, 11:00 AM
I'm really starting to get the itch. My TV is a 1080P, and I've never seen a 1080P picture on it yet. The only way I will is if I buy either a Blue Ray or HD DVD player.

I was wondering if anyone else here has a 1080P TV and either a Blue Ray or HD DVD player yet? And if so, what do you have and how do you like it?

hjmick
08-28-2007, 11:07 AM
Not yet, but I too am getting the itch, not quite as seriously as my wife has it since she saw a BlueRay picture, but still. My hestation stems from the days of the video wars, VHS vs. Beta. Beta was a better picture, but VHS had more backing. I know a couple of people who got burned by betting on Beta. The HD vs. BlueRay battle is still young and while Sony seems to be more serious about establishing a strong beachhead this time around, you never know how these things will turn out.

On the upside, LG makes a player that plays both BlueRay and HD formats. It costs a bit more, about the same as buying two seperate players ($799-$999). It just might motivate me to make the change sooner rather than later.

-Cp
08-28-2007, 11:40 AM
This may help you pick which format to go with:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20360863/

Pale Rider
08-28-2007, 11:56 AM
I've been reading quite a bit about all of it. Blu Ray discs hold more data but cost more than HD. More companies are on board with Blu Ray than HD, and players that will play both formats play one better than the other, and have certain limits as far as features.

If you want to watch high quality 1080P movies in your home, and not be limited as to certain titles, you'll have to buy one of each different format players to do it. Yup... who's getting screwed here? The consumer. You and I. These format wars are bullshit.

hjmick
08-28-2007, 12:02 PM
The LG displays the full range of interactive features contained on Blu-ray discs, such as menus that appear while the film is playing, but does not play similar interactive elements contained on HD DVD discs.

Newsweek seems to think that the porn industry is large enough to possibly be the deciding factor in the battle for format dominance.

jackass
08-28-2007, 03:29 PM
I had thought that HD was going to win the war. Blue Ray is just so expensive and the Sony PS3 was not winning anyone over. Then Blockbuster announced that they would be renting only Blue Ray disks so I think this time.. Blue Ray will win out eventually. Also, as I know it, you can do WAY more with Blue Ray (eventually). Such as while watching a movie, click on the shirt of the actor and order online right then and there.
If you are looking for it, Costco has both the HD and Blue Ray. The HD player is 349 I think while the Blue Ray is closer to 500.

nevadamedic
08-28-2007, 03:32 PM
I'm really starting to get the itch. My TV is a 1080P, and I've never seen a 1080P picture on it yet. The only way I will is if I buy either a Blue Ray or HD DVD player.

I was wondering if anyone else here has a 1080P TV and either a Blue Ray or HD DVD player yet? And if so, what do you have and how do you like it?

I have the one that up-converts to 1080. You can get the Sony(the one I have) for like $130. I like it better then Blue Ray and the HD player as it up-converts your existing DVDs so you dont have to buy special ones. I would reccommend you get this unit and try it out for about 10 days and if you still want better quality(which I dont think you will) exchange it and pay the difference.

nevadamedic
08-28-2007, 03:33 PM
The LG displays the full range of interactive features contained on Blu-ray discs, such as menus that appear while the film is playing, but does not play similar interactive elements contained on HD DVD discs.

Newsweek seems to think that the porn industry is large enough to possibly be the deciding factor in the battle for format dominance.

Just get the upsoncersion unit. It works off the HDMI input.

nevadamedic
08-28-2007, 03:36 PM
The LG displays the full range of interactive features contained on Blu-ray discs, such as menus that appear while the film is playing, but does not play similar interactive elements contained on HD DVD discs.

Newsweek seems to think that the porn industry is large enough to possibly be the deciding factor in the battle for format dominance.

Also LG makes garbage for products. As far as DVD players Sony is the best then Toshiba and Panasonic and the higher lines of Samsung.

jackass
08-28-2007, 03:41 PM
I have the one that up-converts to 1080. You can get the Sony(the one I have) for like $130.

Or at Costco for 89 bucks! :) (toshiba)

jackass
08-28-2007, 03:42 PM
Also LG makes garbage for products. As far as DVD players Sony is the best then Toshiba and Panasonic and the higher lines of Samsung.

Really? My LG phone has outlasted just about anything out on the market.

nevadamedic
08-28-2007, 03:49 PM
Really? My LG phone has outlasted just about anything out on the market.

Their home Audio and Video is crap. They along with Phillips had the highest failure rate of all the top brands when I worked at Best Buy and Sears.

hjmick
08-28-2007, 03:51 PM
Really? My LG phone has outlasted just about anything out on the market.

I have no complaints about my LG refrigerator.

LG used to be Goldstar. Goldstar did not have a great reputation for many years. When they made the decision to expand their market base, they also decided to improve quality. In an effort to distance themselves from the Goldstar reputation, they changed the name.

nevadamedic
08-28-2007, 03:54 PM
Or at Costco for 89 bucks! :) (toshiba)

Spend the extra $40 or so dollars and get the SOny, it's well worth it. I am noticing a better picture on my regular TV's as well, I dont know how thats possible. We have one in every room there is a TV. The High Definition is amazing. It also has a feature where you can take a DVD out put another one in and when you put the original back it will pick up where you left off.

hjmick
08-28-2007, 03:55 PM
Their home Audio and Video is crap. They along with Phillips had the highest failure rate of all the top brands when I worked at Best Buy and Sears.

CNET rates most LG AV equipment around average, price being the main factor for the 7 out of 10 rating for the dual format DVD player.

nevadamedic
08-29-2007, 12:07 AM
CNET rates most LG AV equipment around average, price being the main factor for the 7 out of 10 rating for the dual format DVD player.

Trust me, I would have to check these things out before we sent them to service.

nevadamedic
08-29-2007, 12:13 AM
This is the new Sony with Up-Conversions model number Model: DVP-NS90V goto www.bestbuy.com and check it out. Type in this number in Best Buy's search bar 7879655 and the DVD player will come up. It is slightly higher in price then the one I have as it has the new technology the can read scratched and damaged discs better. It also has Precision Cinema Progressive technology for backgrounds with moving objects that are virtually free from motion artifacts. It is well worth the $199.99 that it costs. It is still half the price of the others.

nevadamedic
08-29-2007, 12:16 AM
Here is the one simular to that I have. The Model number is DVPNS77H/B and it wen't foen in price to $99.99. Type in number 8240879 in Best Buys search engine to bring it up.

Here is some Information on it. Watch your favorite movies on this DVD player that features high-definition 1080p upconversion and Precision Cinema Progressive technology that delivers stunning, true-to-life images for a thrilling cinematic experience.

nevadamedic
08-29-2007, 12:19 AM
Wow Best Buy is also carrying the Harmon Kardon DVD players. They usually make awesome Home Audio Equipment. The Model Number is DVD-38 and the Best Buy number is 8259629. I would still go with the Sony though.

theHawk
08-31-2007, 09:53 AM
I bought a PS3, mainly to act as my Hi-Def player. I really like it, I bought that BBC series Planet Earth that was filmed in Hi-Def. You haven't seen hi-def until you've seen a great white jumping out of the water and swallowing a seal whole before crashing down in a big splash...all in slow motion. :2up:


It looks like Blu-Ray is winning out right now. Doesn't mean the fight is over though.



Who’s In The Lead?

For all the product introduction action on the HD DVD front, it’s interesting to note that recent sales trends, as reported by Ultimate Electronics and Abt Electronics, indicates that Blu-ray Disc players have been outselling HD DVD players. At Ultimate, BD players are selling at a rate of 67% higher than HD DVD players. The introduction of Sony’s $499 BDP-S300 was the turning point.

Apparently, Blu-ray Disc player sales could be even brisker, but are said to be constrained by availability; less expensive BD players are in short supply. Ultimate has yet to receive its first shipment of Panasonic’s $599 second-generation player, which has been available for weeks. And in San Antonio, Bjorn’s is complaining that it cannot satisfy customer demands for Sony’s BDP-S300. On a related note, that store reported that HD disc players outsold DVD players in June.

Toshiba has made much of the fact that it sold far more dedicated HD DVD players than there are dedicated BD players. Toshiba also cites attach rates as high. But for this writer, comparing sales of the same popular title available in both formats is the best indicator of which format is in the lead.

Warner Home Video’s 300 is a hit. It was released day and date on all three disc formats: DVD, HD DVD, and BD. The film grossed $210.6 million at the box office and was highly anticipated for home entertainment. Nielsen VideoScan reports that 300 outsold the number two title, Universal Studios Home Entertainment’s Hot Fuzz, by a staggering ratio in excess of 7 to 1. 300 was the top seller on both Blu-ray Disc and HD DVD charts, but here’s the kicker: the Blu-ray Disc release outsold the HD DVD release by approximately 2 to 1 (1.96:1 to be precise).

This is consistent with the format sales ratio overall since the beginning of the year; Blu-ray Discs out sold HD DVD by 2 to 1 (2.01:1 to be precise), 1.6 million Blu-ray Discs and 795 thousand HD DVDs. The aggregate numbers since April of 2006 are 2.2 million Blu-ray Discs and 1.5 million HD DVDs, a ratio of 1.47:1.

So in an environment where so many people bought PS3 game consoles (1.5 million), many with the intent to use it to play BDs, HD DVD capable playback devices remain highly outnumbered.



http://www.dvdfile.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6217&Itemid=11

Pale Rider
08-31-2007, 04:08 PM
I have the one that up-converts to 1080. You can get the Sony(the one I have) for like $130. I like it better then Blue Ray and the HD player as it up-converts your existing DVDs so you dont have to buy special ones. I would reccommend you get this unit and try it out for about 10 days and if you still want better quality(which I dont think you will) exchange it and pay the difference.

Well, I read EXTENSIVELY on new product, formats, brands, and features. I think you might be a little info shy here. 1080 comes on two different formats. 1080i and 1080P. 1080i stands for interlaced, and only displays 540 lines of resolution at one time on your screen. 1080P, which stands for progressive, displays all 1080 lines of resolution on your screen at once, having effectively DOUBLE the resolution and detail of 1080i. I have a Denon, progressive scan DVD, universal CD player, which is has tested at the theoretical limits of perfect in the lab. There is none better. It also "up converts" through an HDMI output. But, the information on a standard DVD is only 480i, so even though it's up converting the image, it is FAR from true "high definition." The ONLY way your going to get that is with a high definition player playing a high definition disc.

I'm very much leaning toward Blu Ray, and I'll either buy a Denon, a Pioneer Elite, or a Sony ES. Those are your top units.

nevadamedic
08-31-2007, 04:10 PM
Well, I read EXTENSIVELY on new product, formats, brands, and features. I think you might be a little info shy here. 1080 comes on two different formats. 1080i and 1080P. 1080i stands for interlaced, and only displays 540 lines of resolution at one time on your screen. 1080P, which stands for progressive, displays all 1080 lines of resolution on your screen at once, having effectively DOUBLE the resolution and detail of 1080i. I have a Denon, progressive scan DVD, universal CD player, which is has tested at the theoretical limits of perfect in the lab. There is none better. It also "up converts" through on HDMI output. But, the information on a standard DVD is only 480i, so even though it's up converting the image, it is FAR from true "high definition." The ONLY way your going to get that is with a high definition player playing a high definition disc.

I have played the two side by side and didn't notice a difference at all.

Pale Rider
08-31-2007, 04:41 PM
I have played the two side by side and didn't notice a difference at all.

Then the TV you were viewing them on was incapable of displaying the HUGE difference. I've seen them side by side, and the difference is JAW DROPPING.

nevadamedic
08-31-2007, 05:36 PM
Then the TV you were viewing them on was incapable of displaying the HUGE difference. I've seen them side by side, and the difference is JAW DROPPING.

It was a movie not a TV show and you can tell the difference.

Pale Rider
08-31-2007, 10:08 PM
It was a movie not a TV show and you can tell the difference.

I didn't say it was a TV show. I was refering to watching a regular DVD on an upscaling DVD player as opposed to watching a Blu Ray DVD on a high def player. You won't see the big difference unless you're viewing it on a "1080P" HDTV, not a "1080i" HDTV.

Isn't that what you were talking about? Sheeeseee...

nevadamedic
09-01-2007, 01:09 AM
I didn't say it was a TV show. I was refering to watching a regular DVD on an upscaling DVD player as opposed to watching a Blu Ray DVD on a high def player. You won't see the big difference unless you're viewing it on a "1080P" HDTV, not a "1080i" HDTV.

Isn't that what you were talking about? Sheeeseee...

We played the 1080P and the 1080i next to eachother and there was no difference.

Pale Rider
09-01-2007, 03:32 AM
We played the 1080P and the 1080i next to eachother and there was no difference.

You played a 1080i and 1080P what? DVD player? On what did you play it?

If you hooked a 1080P DVD player up to a HDTV that only displayed 1080i, you're NOT going to see any difference between it and the 1080i player. The only way you will be able to see the difference is if you hook both up to a 1080P HDTV, THEN you'll see a BIG difference between the 1080i and the 1080P. One TV has DOUBLE the resolution of the other, and one player is reading over 8X the picture information of the other. If you don't see the difference, then there's something wrong with your eyes.