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jimnyc
10-02-2018, 08:56 AM
Complain. Complain loudly and make demands. Complain loudly and make demands, put it on the news 24x7x365. Eventually the mob rules and wins out.

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Allen West: US Increasingly Moving Away from Rule of Law, Toward Mob Rule

If there is one thing we must all admit to, it is that we are moving away from the rule of law and more towards mob rule. We saw this emerge recently with the Occupy Wall Street movement. It took an even more dangerous turn with the fomenting of racial tensions in the Ferguson, Missouri protests. And with the rise of the progressive, socialist-backed organization Black Lives Matter it became a cancer within our republic. When talking points, themes, and media-driven propaganda, such as “hands up don’t shoot” become more prevalent than our system of justice and law we are embarking down a perilous path.

The mob rule has now metastasized into an even worse cancer since the results of the November 2016 presidential election. When a presidential inauguration is marred by thuggish street gang violence and threats to those supporting a duly elected president, our American way of life is threatened. When we have violent protests on our college and university campuses to coerce and intimidate any opposing thought, our freedom of speech is no longer honored. The sad, but true, fact surrounding this growth of mob rule is that it is embraced and coddled by a complicit liberal, progressive media.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkbPQUHKmYE

Rest - https://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/allen-west/allen-west-us-increasingly-moving-away-rule-law-toward-mob-rule

Abbey Marie
10-05-2018, 01:28 PM
And getting worse every day.

Gunny
10-05-2018, 08:44 PM
Past time to deal with the mob. The US Constitution is not a suicide pact. The Rights it endows on us should NEVER be allowed to be used to destroy themselves. At some point a line has to be drawn.

Used to be, common sense prevailed. Unfortunately, having any sense is no longer common. ALL democracies face/faced this same issue. People twisting the words of the law, or out right defying them with their positions to eat away at the very intent of the law.

The Democrats in Congress, IMO, have completely misused and/or abused their position since the day Trump was elected. They were bad enough before shoving one-sided crap down our throats. Now they are just defiantly trying to f*ck Republicans and don't care who knows. And they are hiding behind the law to do it. The people SHOULD BE the ones to stop them through voting. Would be nice. Next option is going to be force.

Noir
10-06-2018, 06:58 AM
I think this is an almost natural consequence of the rate at which information now flows.

The 24hr news cycle was the first real push into this - but it had gatekeepers/editors and the legacy of what News was that kept it at bay.

Now with peoples social feed being their news outlets there is no gatekeeping, context, or follow up. This all means that if you live in New York you can find out that a police officer shot dead a kid running home with some candy bars in Georgia before their body is cold.

This is a recipe for Mob Rule that traditional institutions are really not equipped to deal with, so they aren’t.

Gunny
10-06-2018, 07:10 AM
I think this is an almost natural consequence of the rate at which information now flows.

The 24hr news cycle was the first real push into this - but it had gatekeepers/editors and the legacy of what News was that kept it at bay.

Now with peoples social feed being their news outlets there is no gatekeeping, context, or follow up. This all means that if you live in New York you can find out that a police officer shot dead a kid running home with some candy bars in Georgia before their body is cold.

This is a recipe for Mob Rule that traditional institutions are really not equipped to deal with, so they aren’t.

Or that the black criminal shoots dead a white police officer for being pulled over for a traffic violation? Oh wait ... on the rare and random occasion we actually get THAT news it gets relegated to page 23 as fast as the left can inundate with irrelevant, off-topic horse shit.

What IS inevitable is that in the end of EVERY story throughout the history of Mankind, the weak lose everything chasing so many false flags they cannot see a REAL threat in front of their own noses. And they ALWAYS do it by using their own freedoms and the ability to hide behind misconstrued laws to do it. YOU, noir, are THE poster child of every such society.

Noir
10-06-2018, 07:39 AM
Or that the black criminal shoots dead a white police officer for being pulled over for a traffic violation? Oh wait ... on the rare and random occasion we actually get THAT news it gets relegated to page 23 as fast as the left can inundate with irrelevant, off-topic horse shit.

There is no ‘relegated to page 23’ of a social media feed. That’s my point.

Gunny
10-06-2018, 09:02 AM
There is no ‘relegated to page 23’ of a social media feed. That’s my point.Then you have no point. Stories are buried, inundated with pure crap until they disappear.

Barring that, the left will deflect to anything and everything possible EXCEPT address the topic. Look at you. My response to you above threw your own highly-partisan, leftwingnut "example" back in your face and you completely ignored it, and the thread topic.

The topic of the thread is mob rule replacing the rule of law. It is a fact. The left, especially since Trump's election, has had a total disregard for the law and the intent of the law and repeatedly violated it in spirit if not in fact. We can start with the Kavanaugh Hearing and work our way back at least to the 90s without so much as a pause.

Don't like the People's choice for President? Let's demand a re-vote. Try and nullify the electoral college. Don't like the President? Let's dream up some collusion theory with no basis in fact. There is NOTHING from the left in the MSM OR social media that has anything to do with the truth. Just the masters telling the sheep what to believe. And y'all suck up every single lie.

Abbey Marie
10-06-2018, 09:07 AM
Then you have no point. Stories are buried, inundated with pure crap until they disappear.

Barring that, the left will deflect to anything and everything possible EXCEPT address the topic. Look at you. My response to you above threw your own highly-partisan, leftwingnut "example" back in your face and you completely ignored it, and the thread topic.

The topic of the thread is mob rule replacing the rule of law. It is a fact. The left, especially since Trump's election, has had a total disregard for the law and the intent of the law and repeatedly violated it in spirit if not in fact. We can start with the Kavanaugh Hearing and work our way back at least to the 90s without so much as a pause.

Don't like the People's choice for President? Let's demand a re-vote. Try and nullify the electoral college. Don't like the President? Let's dream up some collusion theory with no basis in fact. There is NOTHING from the left in the MSM OR social media that has anything to do with the truth. Just the masters telling the sheep what to believe. And y'all suck up every single lie.

Thing is, if it was the Right protesting, leftist folks would be going ape over it all, let alone just acknowledging your point about mob rule.

Gunny
10-06-2018, 09:20 AM
Thing is, if it was the Right protesting, leftist folks would be going ape over it all, let alone just acknowledging your point about mob rule.That IS my "theme of the morning" :)

The left just hates. They have no idea why. There is no individual thought involved in their group mind-think. They hate the right because they are told to. They disagree with the right simply because it is the right. There is no morality, principle, Einstein, Darwin, 'What Would Jesus Do" involved in any of it. Don't like history and/pr reality? Re-write it and swear it's so.

If you dare disagree with them, they shout or beat you down. Preach peace while tearing up the infrastructure. Been doing it since the 60s when they decided their pathetic little lives were more important to them than the very ideals that allow them to be spoiled brats.

My daughter's 1st grade class is more educated, truthful and well behaved than Congressional Democrats and leftwignut millenials.

Drummond
10-06-2018, 09:38 AM
That IS my "theme of the morning" :)

The left just hates. They have no idea why. There is no individual thought involved in their group mind-think. They hate the right because they are told to. They disagree with the right simply because it is the right. There is no morality, principle, Einstein, Darwin, 'What Would Jesus Do" involved in any of it. Don't like history and/pr reality? Re-write it and swear it's so.

If you dare disagree with them, they shout or beat you down. Preach peace while tearing up the infrastructure. Been doing it since the 60s when they decided their pathetic little lives were more important to them than the very ideals that allow them to be spoiled brats.

My daughter's 1st grade class is more educated, truthful and well behaved than Congressional Democrats and leftwignut millenials.:clap::clap::clap::clap:

Spot on.

Truth is, the Left (those doing the leading) are control freaks. Zero respect or regard for the individual, and total dedication to leading by the nose. Principle, decency, even sometimes (when convenient) rule of law ... these qualities aren't usually a part of the equation to them. 'The ends justify the means' is their yardstick.

Little wonder that mob rule is something they can take to, when it suits their purpose.

High_Plains_Drifter
10-06-2018, 09:46 AM
Complain. Complain loudly and make demands. Complain loudly and make demands, put it on the news 24x7x365. Eventually the mob rules and wins out.

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Allen West: US Increasingly Moving Away from Rule of Law, Toward Mob Rule

Every time I see a headline like the above I think... "the US?" No... it's NOT the US, it's the RADICAL DEMOCRATS who's "moving away from rule of law." If you see a bunch of PROTESTERS, then 99.999% of the time, IT'S DEMOCRATS, period, end of story. THEY are the ones "moving away from rule of law." People need to understand that.

Democrats are the party of TRASH.

Gunny
10-06-2018, 10:08 AM
Every time I see a headline like the above I think... "the US?" No... it's NOT the US, it's the RADICAL DEMOCRATS who's "moving away from rule of law." If you see a bunch of PROTESTERS, then 99.999% of the time, IT'S DEMOCRATS, period, end of story. THEY are the ones "moving away from rule of law." People need to understand that.

Democrats are the party of TRASH."They" are half the people in the US. They are using the law against itself; therefore, the end result is moving us away from the rule of law as long as we let them do it.

The liberals winning the US Civil War determined this slippery slide down the slope and we've been going downhill since. The Federal government by force of arms basically nullified the 10th Amendment, then covered there asses 4 years after the fact with a court ruling that no state could secede and added the wording no state was ever allowed to. A bullshit ruling to cover an illegal act of war.

They have chipped away year after year, decade after decade until we have reached where we are now. Don't like a rule? Hell, get a lower court judge to overrule the President. They got away with it. I'd have told them to fuck off and declared DACA null and void as unconstitutional to begin with, but for some dumb reason we're playing along.

Same with the Kavanaugh Hearing. Why did the left get away with putting on a drama for the ages (until next time)? Because we let them. As long as "We, the People" allow the disdain, abuse or flat out ignoring the law at the convenience of the left, we will continue the roll downhill. "We" ARE part and parcel to the roll. They're taking us down with them because no one is stopping them.

High_Plains_Drifter
10-06-2018, 10:23 AM
"They" are half the people in the US. They are using the law against itself; therefore, the end result is moving us away from the rule of law as long as we let them do it.

The liberals winning the US Civil War determined this slippery slide down the slope and we've been going downhill since. The Federal government by force of arms basically nullified the 10th Amendment, then covered there asses 4 years after the fact with a court ruling that no state could secede and added the wording no state was ever allowed to. A bullshit ruling to cover an illegal act of war.

They have chipped away year after year, decade after decade until we have reached where we are now. Don't like a rule? Hell, get a lower court judge to overrule the President. They got away with it. I'd have told them to fuck off and declared DACA null and void as unconstitutional to begin with, but for some dumb reason we're playing along.

Same with the Kavanaugh Hearing. Why did the left get away with putting on a drama for the ages (until next time)? Because we let them. As long as "We, the People" allow the disdain, abuse or flat out ignoring the law at the convenience of the left, we will continue the roll downhill. "We" ARE part and parcel to the roll. They're taking us down with them because no one is stopping them.
Well, there's some truth there, but one, I don't think the radical left is "half" the people in the US. I think they're a minority, and I also think that the worse they get, they smaller minority they are, because the majority of people in America find them disgusting.

As far as you and I go, hell man, we don't have the power to stop jack squat. All we can do is vote and hope the person we voted for supports our opinion. So you can't really lump me, or probably yourself either, into that "we."

And America just might need a DO OVER on that Civil War, if the left continues to get more radical.

Abbey Marie
10-06-2018, 10:24 AM
That IS my "theme of the morning" :)

The left just hates. They have no idea why. There is no individual thought involved in their group mind-think. They hate the right because they are told to. They disagree with the right simply because it is the right. There is no morality, principle, Einstein, Darwin, 'What Would Jesus Do" involved in any of it. Don't like history and/pr reality? Re-write it and swear it's so.

If you dare disagree with them, they shout or beat you down. Preach peace while tearing up the infrastructure. Been doing it since the 60s when they decided their pathetic little lives were more important to them than the very ideals that allow them to be spoiled brats.

My daughter's 1st grade class is more educated, truthful and well behaved than Congressional Democrats and leftwignut millenials.

And on this topic, we need to order the Capitol police to keep these screaming idiots out of the Capitol hallways where they are accosting Republican Senators. Enough!

Gunny
10-06-2018, 10:30 AM
And on this topic, we need to order the Capitol police keep these screaming idiots out of the Capitol hallways where they are accosting Republican Senators. Enough!I agree. If that was you or I doing that to someone/people we'd be arrested and charged, thrown into the money mill of a court system and at a minimum fined on top of the other legal expenses. These clowns shouldn't be allowed to walk just because they're screaming the lefty rant du jour, and assault is assault.

We have the Right to address Congress in the appropriate manner and assemble PEACEABLY. We do NOT have the right to interfere with, accost or disrupt Congress nor assemble and protest without permit.

Just another example of the rules apply to the left only at its convenience.

Elessar
10-06-2018, 10:43 AM
I agree. If that was you or I doing that to someone/people we'd be arrested and charged, thrown into the money mill of a court system and at a minimum fined on top of the other legal expenses. These clowns shouldn't be allowed to walk just because they're screaming the lefty rant du jour, and assault is assault.

We have the Right to address Congress in the appropriate manner and assemble PEACEABLY. We do NOT have the right to interfere with, accost or disrupt Congress nor assemble and protest without permit.

Just another example of the rules apply to the left only at its convenience.

That is all so accurate.

There is a contingent that stands in protest every Friday in front of the County Courthouse,
wearing all black, and holding signs condemning the President and the Law of the Land.

But if a conservative was to confront them, all hell would break loose. Democrats see things as
a one-way street. Accost them verbally, and stand by for threats of violence or lawsuits!
But they love getting into the opposition's face and shouting, even pushing. Get within 5 feet of me, you are
going backward, FAST!


I laugh and ignore them.

LongTermGuy
10-08-2018, 11:14 PM
Well, there's some truth there, but one, I don't think the radical left is "half" the people in the US. I think they're a minority, and I also think that the worse they get, they smaller minority they are, because the majority of people in America find them disgusting.

As far as you and I go, hell man, we don't have the power to stop jack squat. All we can do is vote and hope the person we voted for supports our opinion. So you can't really lump me, or probably yourself either, into that "we."

And America just might need a DO OVER on that Civil War, if the left continues to get more radical.


The Left leaning "Media" thinks it can convince Americans that the "Majority" of the people agrees with them and the Democrats..

They like to use words and Phrases like.."Most Americans feel"..."Most Americans agree"...."its un-American"...."This is not us"...etc...etc....

In reality...The Leftist (Liberals) dislike everything about America....! They think they are sneaky...slick...But obviously ...they are so stupid and keep Fu%!King up...and so easy to see through...They are so Ignorant with all their antics....its actually suicidal...for their movement...cause...... so dumb that they still caint figure it out...

Gunny
10-09-2018, 10:18 AM
Well, there's some truth there, but one, I don't think the radical left is "half" the people in the US. I think they're a minority, and I also think that the worse they get, they smaller minority they are, because the majority of people in America find them disgusting.

As far as you and I go, hell man, we don't have the power to stop jack squat. All we can do is vote and hope the person we voted for supports our opinion. So you can't really lump me, or probably yourself either, into that "we."

And America just might need a DO OVER on that Civil War, if the left continues to get more radical."They" are as much roughly half the people as the right is. I personally believe it's brain damage. An inability to see cold hard fact/evidence/event for what it is. A lefty will give you some story about how "two people can watch the same event and see two different things. The way I see it (no pun intended), the event/fact is what it is regardless personal filters and if you're seeing something else or that isn't there, something's wrong with YOU (the ubiquitous "you").

I believe lefties think with a different part of their brains.

Neverless, they have always been "half". From what I have seen, the winner depends on who does and doesn't get out the votes. AND, the left will outnumber eventually us because that is just how history works. When I was a kid, Democrats were more conservative than Republicans are now. Freedom slides to the left because it brings progressives with it. Progress is required. A lack of progress is death. Just not the way it's going. Unfortunately, progress involves Man and Man can f*ck up boiling water given enough time. Clinton can even tell you why it really isn't boiling :)

Gunny
10-09-2018, 10:26 AM
I can explain that better. Grandson woke up. I'm out.