College bans 9/11 memorial citing Muslims' feelings

[jimnyc]

So we/they are supposed to whitewash, forget about or whatever when it comes to one of the worst ever attacks on our citizens here in America? And to do so, because we don't want to offend any current muslims?

Well they're just going to have to learn how to get over it or deal with it. No one is attacking them personally, and they should understand as well what happened on that day.

But a few in the minority will be protected and the majority will have to ignore any exhibits honoring the folks on that day. Their day of "never forget" and they apparently are supposed to forget. What a crock of shit.

PC seems to always win in the schools. :(

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College bans 9/11 memorial citing Muslims' feelings

A private Wisconsin college banned students from exhibiting a Sept. 11 memorial fearing that it could foster an anti-Muslim environment on campus.

Ripon College ruled against a display by Young America’s Foundation (YAF) to honor the memory of those killed in the 2001 attacks and to help prevent the events from being forgotten, reported The Washington Examiner. It was part of an annual “Never Forget” project on college campuses around the nation.

The administration claimed that the memorial would create an atmosphere where “students from a Muslim background would feel singled out and/or harassed.”

“There is nothing that this poster, in particular, adds to the conversation about 9/11, or about the politics of terrorism, or about national security or responses to it that couldn’t be done easily and more constructively without it,” said Ripon’s Bias Protocol Board, according to the Examiner.

In addition to images of the Sept. 11 attacks, the exhibit also displayed subsequent radical Islamic extremist events such as Islamic State beheadings and the USS Cole bombing.

The college further claimed that Muslim terrorists only “represent a small percentage of the terrorist attacks that happen to this country” and that YAF is only showing “a very small picture of a specific religion or nationality instead of the larger viewpoint.”

YAF quickly refuted the aforementioned claim calling it false and fired back with a fact-check stating “from 1992 to 2017, Islamists were responsible for 92% of deaths caused by terrorism in the United States, and are ‘far and away the deadliest group of terrorists by ideology’.”

“This attempt by Ripon College’s ‘bias protocol board’ to sanitize the truth out of remembering the anniversary of September 11 proves the necessity of YAF’s iconic 9/11: Never Forget Project, as well as the need for bold YAF activists,” said YAF’s spokesman Spencer Brown. “The administrators’ reliance on feelings rather than facts betrays their intention to cower from the truth rather than highlight the scourge of radical Islamist terror for what it is: evil.”

https://dailycaller.com/2018/08/30/college-bans-memorial-muslim-feelings/

[aboutime]

I am so thankful I have lived my life, and time is getting shorter for being around all of this STUPIDITY, IGNORANCE, HATRED, and DUMBER THAN DUMB hypocrites who dare to call themselves Human Beings.

I will have the LAST LAUGH. God Willing. And all of this crap will be over.:clap:

[Elessar]

Ignorant speculation on their part that Muslim students would be singled out.

How far does this liberal paranoia have to go?

Muslims and people of all religions were killed that day, not just the extremists...

Bunch of bullshit..

[High_Plains_Drifter]

I don't recall the democrat mongrels ever worrying about hurting the poor little Japs feelings every December when we remember Pearl Harbor.

This leftist dumbfuckery is getting to the point where it's enough to make one VOMIT. I think that civil war is coming. I don't think we can avoid it.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

I don't recall the democrat mongrels ever worrying about hurting the poor little Japs feelings every December when we remember Pearl Harbor.

This leftist dumbfuckery is getting to the point where it's enough to make one VOMIT. I think that civil war is coming. I don't think we can avoid it.

I think its coming too. And it will be these ignorant,elitist , arrogant dipshit bastards that will force it upon us..
They and these last couple of generations of brainwashed, selfish and blinded so-called elites.
These morons that have been educated to be both blind and arrogantly stupid..

Do you see any of this supposed great concern when they lie to trash Christians, patriots, conservatives, honest law-biding citizens?
Answer is hell no- but these assholes always do so to try to defend the fing muslims-- that is because besides being brain-dead stupid and blind to reality --they are also graven cowards-- not a damn one of them I'd be afraid to say that to face to face.
In fact, I wish I could say that to each of them..
As they so very deeply and truly sicken me...--Tyr

[STTAB]

So we/they are supposed to whitewash, forget about or whatever when it comes to one of the worst ever attacks on our citizens here in America? And to do so, because we don't want to offend any current muslims?

Well they're just going to have to learn how to get over it or deal with it. No one is attacking them personally, and they should understand as well what happened on that day.

But a few in the minority will be protected and the majority will have to ignore any exhibits honoring the folks on that day. Their day of "never forget" and they apparently are supposed to forget. What a crock of shit.

PC seems to always win in the schools. :(

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College bans 9/11 memorial citing Muslims' feelings

A private Wisconsin college banned students from exhibiting a Sept. 11 memorial fearing that it could foster an anti-Muslim environment on campus.

Ripon College ruled against a display by Young America’s Foundation (YAF) to honor the memory of those killed in the 2001 attacks and to help prevent the events from being forgotten, reported The Washington Examiner. It was part of an annual “Never Forget” project on college campuses around the nation.

The administration claimed that the memorial would create an atmosphere where “students from a Muslim background would feel singled out and/or harassed.”

“There is nothing that this poster, in particular, adds to the conversation about 9/11, or about the politics of terrorism, or about national security or responses to it that couldn’t be done easily and more constructively without it,” said Ripon’s Bias Protocol Board, according to the Examiner.

In addition to images of the Sept. 11 attacks, the exhibit also displayed subsequent radical Islamic extremist events such as Islamic State beheadings and the USS Cole bombing.

The college further claimed that Muslim terrorists only “represent a small percentage of the terrorist attacks that happen to this country” and that YAF is only showing “a very small picture of a specific religion or nationality instead of the larger viewpoint.”

YAF quickly refuted the aforementioned claim calling it false and fired back with a fact-check stating “from 1992 to 2017, Islamists were responsible for 92% of deaths caused by terrorism in the United States, and are ‘far and away the deadliest group of terrorists by ideology’.”

“This attempt by Ripon College’s ‘bias protocol board’ to sanitize the truth out of remembering the anniversary of September 11 proves the necessity of YAF’s iconic 9/11: Never Forget Project, as well as the need for bold YAF activists,” said YAF’s spokesman Spencer Brown. “The administrators’ reliance on feelings rather than facts betrays their intention to cower from the truth rather than highlight the scourge of radical Islamist terror for what it is: evil.”

https://dailycaller.com/2018/08/30/college-bans-memorial-muslim-feelings/


Private college Jimmy, they can do as they like.

I sure wouldn't send my children there, but it is their college.

[Elessar]

Private college Jimmy, they can do as they like.

I sure wouldn't send my children there, but it is their college.

That is quite true, being a private institution.
Perhaps the media blast should have been ignored.

I dunno. I just get tired of the MSM making a mockery of actions that demonstrate
heartfelt tributes to those innocents and first responders that perished that awful day.
I was stationed in NYC, Queens - Bayside for 3 years and most of our reservists
were either cops or firefighters in NYC.

I was off that day, having worked in the Command Center all weekend. I saw it on the
news, went in, showered, shaved and went in to augment the duty personnel.
It was pandemonium in Los Angeles and Long Beach Harbors for several hours.

All agencies were on high alert. USMC and Navy sent shallow water boats loaded with
Marines and Seals to guard the harbors.

[Noir]

Surely the Muslims would be happy at the reminder that they murdered so many Americans, no?

[Elessar]

Surely the Muslims would be happy at the reminder that they murdered so many Americans, no?

And exactly what does that mean? Again you fail to explain yourself.
Not your whimsical projections, but what do you mean?

Muslims as a whole, or just the violent extremists? Explain,
Oh mighty boy of all that is not said or shown.

[aboutime]

Surely the Muslims would be happy at the reminder that they murdered so many Americans, no?

Probably NOT as happy as you seem to sound...being a friend of those who, like you, also hate America, and Americans. I feel sorry for you, and your permanent, mental sickness of joy.

[Elessar]

Probably NOT as happy as you seem to sound...being a friend of those who, like you, also hate America, and Americans. I feel sorry for you, and your permanent, mental sickness of joy.

Farkin' USA hating punk....that cannot intimidate in the UK, but thinks he will here.

News for you little boy...you are not any more than a skid mark in the underwear of life.

[SassyLady]

#$%& the people who are offended. This is too much. Time to start offending everyone. Hell, I don't have career anymore so I'm not worried about being fired.

[SassyLady]

Surely the Muslims would be happy at the reminder that they murdered so many Americans, no?

It's a reminder of how many we lost during the attack. I frankly don't care if they are reminded about the loss of Americans on American soil that they now supposedly want to be a part of. If they were not responsible they have nothing to be ashamed of. Just as I'm not ashamed of what my ancestors did. Why should I give up my right to honor the dead just because some new residents or illegals are offended. This is America ... love it and it's symbols or leave it!

[Noir]

If they were not responsible they have nothing to be ashamed of. Just as I'm not ashamed of what my ancestors did.

That’s fair enough assuming as it comes with the corollary ‘I am not proud of what my ancestors did’.

[Noir]

And exactly what does that mean? Again you fail to explain yourself.
Not your whimsical projections, but what do you mean?

Muslims as a whole, or just the violent extremists? Explain,
Oh mighty boy of all that is not said or shown.

It’s a perspective we should see more of, no?

Muslims protesting in campuses, demanding that memorials are raised to remind everyone how much they hate Americans and were glad so many of them died on 9/11.

[Elessar]

It’s a perspective we should see more of, no?

Muslims protesting in campuses, demanding that memorials are raised to remind everyone how much they hate Americans and were glad so many of them died on 9/11.

As usual, you avoid the issue but seem to have all the answers, telling us how to cope.

Newsflash Noir, fix the UK first before telling the USA what to do

[aboutime]

#$%& the people who are offended. This is too much. Time to start offending everyone. Hell, I don't have career anymore so I'm not worried about being fired.

Agreed. From my own point of view, and age now. I find it very rewarding, and satisfying to finally NOT BE AFRAID of saying what I want. If it offends someone. That tells me...They really are offended because..."They Can't Handle, or Accept Being Confronted With The TRUTH!"

I've paid my dues as a citizen for seven decades, and for three of them I served EVERY ONE of the OFFENDED idiots, who is offended by Someone Like Me...Finally Using My Freedom of Speech.

The worst thing any of the offended can do to me is..."ATTEND MY FUNERAL!"

[Elessar]

That’s fair enough assuming as it comes with the corollary ‘I am not proud of what my ancestors did’.

My ancestors, little man, have been traced back to 1750 as settlers in what was the
Virginia Colony. They fought in the French and Indian Wars, and the American Revolution.
Mom was an honored member of the DAR - Daughters of the American Revolution

They were farmers with a homestead at Fabius VA, which was included when
West Virginia pulled away from Virginia in 1863. A Great-Great Grandmother
was a Seneca Tribe Woman. Thus, I have Seneca in my genes and blood.
Seneca...One of the 5 tribes of the Iroquois Nation.

You judge without any knowledge of the people you spout off to.
You need to grow up and curb your judgmental mouth!

[aboutime]

That’s fair enough assuming as it comes with the corollary ‘I am not proud of what my ancestors did’.


Noir. Tell us, if you will. Just when...in life, are you no longer required to APOLOGIZE for the things your ancestors did...HUNDREDS OF YEARS AGO? People you don't know, people you never met, and they DON'T KNOW YOU either.

Making excuses, as an apology for something YOU, and I, and EVERYONE ELSE had nothing to do with IS....what is totally wrong with the entire World Today.

The OFFENDED, INSULTED, BOTHERED, ANGRY, HYPOCRITES who prevail because of History are the reason...PEOPLE are demanding REPARATIONS for things that happened, long before any of us were born. SO...the truth is. WE ARE NO LONGER RESPONSIBLE for what History did.

Time to MOVE ON, and STOP PLAYING PERPETUAL VICTIM of your ancestors just to have something to complain about...looking for ways to Make others feel Sorry. DON'T WORK.

[SassyLady]

That’s fair enough assuming as it comes with the corollary ‘I am not proud of what my ancestors did’.

I honor and am proud of my ancestors achievements and strive to do better. In doing so, I'm not ignoring or rewriting history. One has to acknowledge dark parts in history in order to NOT repeat it.

[SassyLady]

It’s a perspective we should see more of, no?

Muslims protesting in campuses, demanding that memorials are raised to remind everyone how much they hate Americans and were glad so many of them died on 9/11.

If they hate Americans that much they need to leave and not look back.

[Elessar]

I honor and am proud of my ancestors achievements and strive to do better. In doing so, I'm not ignoring or rewriting history. One has to acknowledge dark parts in history in order to NOT repeat it.

As am I.

Dad was a decorated WWII, Korea, and 'Nam Vet.
Step-dad was decorated from WWII.
Mom, loyal to the VFW and USAF Auxillary.

Me, decorated USCG Vet, both Active Duty and as a
GS-11 specialist.

Noir is an ignorant brat that thinks his shit does not stink.
Never out from an enclosure where his skinny ass will be stomped
for his loudmouth attitude.

[Noir]

Noir. Tell us, if you will. Just when...in life, are you no longer required to APOLOGIZE for the things your ancestors did...HUNDREDS OF YEARS AGO? People you don't know, people you never met, and they DON'T KNOW YOU either.


I’d say it’s around the same length of time it takes for you to no longer feel pride for things your ancestors did, you know, people you don’t know, have never met, and don’t know you either. How long would you say that is?

[Noir]

If they hate Americans that much they need to leave and not look back.

My question would be why don’t they hate America enough to be demanding these memorials?

[aboutime]

I’d say it’s around the same length of time it takes for you to no longer feel pride for things your ancestors did, you know, people you don’t know, have never met, and don’t know you either. How long would you say that is?

Your attempt at double-talking, by reversing the question, rather than Answer, is a typical trick used by liberals who really have NO HONEST ANSWERS that would actually make you, and them, look dumber than a box of rocks.
You are a low-life excuse, and example of your own, created, hidden forms of bigotry, protected by liberal tactics that only work on Other Ignorant Liberals.

As for the dumb attempt by you to accuse us of having No pride in our Unknown, ancestors. It is honestly impossible to feel any sense of real pride for people who lived hundreds of years ago, under totally different circumstances..PRE, all the toys, bells, and whistles of Modern Day selfishness enjoyed by the occupants of those BOXES OF ROCKS...like you.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

Fuck moslems...

https://image.ibb.co/kw8bcS/muslim_bitch.jpg

[High_Plains_Drifter]

My question would be why don’t they hate America enough to be demanding these memorials?
My question is, why do you make excuses for murderers?

[SassyLady]

My question would be why don’t they hate America enough to be demanding these memorials?

It's easier in America these days to be offended, therefore, easier to demand removal or ban anything that offends them. Way easier than putting up their own memorials celebrating their hatred. It's the old "conquer from within" strategy.

[Elessar]

I’d say it’s around the same length of time it takes for you to no longer feel pride for things your ancestors did, you know, people you don’t know, have never met, and don’t know you either. How long would you say that is?


My question would be why don’t they hate America enough to be demanding these memorials?

YOU say....!

You who has no life experience?

You who preaches, but cowers when confronted?

You are an internet coward, confront one of the USA Vets,
tough boy!

Fix the UK and quit trying to tell the USA to do. We rebelled
against the 'Crowns' oppression.

Now we are loyal allies....go home and fix Ireland.

[aboutime]

It's easier in America these days to be offended, therefore, easier to demand removal or ban anything that offends them. Way easier than putting up their own memorials celebrating their hatred. It's the old "conquer from within" strategy.


The Enemies of America, and the West. Namely the USA. KNOW...how to use our Constitutional Laws against us to their benefit.

BUT...their only problem is. Unless, and When they become American citizens..much to their surprise, now that Trump is in office. Americans in general will not BOW DOWN to any of their Sharia-like Demands, nor will they be granted the Protections of our Constitution..as their tool to infiltrate, and Destroy America to their Own Demands.

We all know. Had Hillary been elected, or Obama still been in office.
The Appeasement of Illegals, and Foreign Terror, Hate Group members...Like the Muslim Brotherhood...would be taking over everything they HATE about America, and Americans..all with the Blessings of the Crooked Democrats who only see ILLEGALS as Votes.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

The Enemies of America, and the West. Namely the USA. KNOW...how to use our Constitutional Laws against us to their benefit.

BUT...their only problem is. Unless, and When they become American citizens..much to their surprise, now that Trump is in office. Americans in general will not BOW DOWN to any of their Sharia-like Demands, nor will they be granted the Protections of our Constitution..as their tool to infiltrate, and Destroy America to their Own Demands.

We all know. Had Hillary been elected, or Obama still been in office.
The Appeasement of Illegals, and Foreign Terror, Hate Group members...Like the Muslim Brotherhood...would be taking over everything they HATE about America, and Americans..all with the Blessings of the Crooked Democrats who only see ILLEGALS as Votes.
They're getting away with it in parts of Michigan though, pard. Visit Dearborn-istan...

[Drummond]

If they hate Americans that much they need to leave and not look back.

:clap::clap::clap::clap:

The perfect answer (and solution). Exactly.

You know, we've had what we like to call 'hate preachers' spend time in the UK, preaching their terrorist-loving message to anyone who'll listen. Such 'people' profess to hate Britain and everything we stand for.

... AHH ... BUT ... when it comes (as it does, every now and again) to deporting those individuals, they fight tooth and nail to resist deportation. Such is their 'hatred' of the British way of life, that they'll happily take, and fight for, whatever benefit payments and perks they can scrounge from the State.

Double standards, much ??

They hate our way of life. But, they'll fight to get as much of it for themselves as they can .....

[Drummond]

My question is, why do you make excuses for murderers?:clap::clap::clap::clap:

I look forward to the answer to that one as well (.. I'm expecting evasion, though ..) !

[High_Plains_Drifter]

:clap::clap::clap::clap:

The perfect answer (and solution). Exactly.

You know, we've had what we like to call 'hate preachers' spend time in the UK, preaching their terrorist-loving message to anyone who'll listen. Such 'people' profess to hate Britain and everything we stand for.

... AHH ... BUT ... when it comes (as it does, every now and again) to deporting those individuals, they fight tooth and nail to resist deportation. Such is their 'hatred' of the British way of life, that they'll happily take, and fight for, whatever benefit payments and perks they can scrounge from the State.

Double standards, much ??

They hate our way of life. But, they'll fight to get as much of it for themselves as they can .....
Yup...

https://image.ibb.co/kw8bcS/muslim_bitch.jpg

[aboutime]

They're getting away with it in parts of Michigan though, pard. Visit Dearborn-istan...

1.https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/dec/26/isis-arrests-in-northern-virginia-reveal-jihadi-th/
2.https://www.nytimes.com/2002/01/03/us/rural-muslims-draw-new-unwanted-attention.html
3.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_jihad_network

I haven't been able to document, or prove it. But I did hear that Virginia State Police Troopers were told...NOT TO VIOLATE the Muslim area's, behind walls, and fences. Where..SHARIA LAW is practiced,and U.S. Laws are Ignored.
(I am searching for the information. I also have sources!)

[Noir]

It's easier in America these days to be offended, therefore, easier to demand removal or ban anything that offends them. Way easier than putting up their own memorials celebrating their hatred. It's the old "conquer from within" strategy.

The very same memorial to the dead *is* a memorial celebrating hatred, to those who would view the deaths as a celebratory act, no?

[aboutime]

Since I am getting too old to understand just about anything I hear taking place these days.
I WISH TO ANNOUNCE... I am OFFENDED by DEMOCRATS, LIARS, SNOWFLAKES, LIBERALS, and the entire list of HATERS in America.

SO. In keeping with the College Idea of Hurting Muslim Feelings. Though I am not a Muslim.

I AM OFFENDED by the people who are OFFENDED, INSULTED, ANGERED, and FULL OF IGNORANT HATRED for others who disagree with me, and people like me.

Is there a NICE WAY for me to tell those people to "KISS MY ASS?"

https://pics.me.me/if-i-offend-you-1-im-really-sorry-2-will-9436300.png
https://i0.wp.com/weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/if-ive-ever-offended-you-just-know-that.jpg
And Finally....

http://funnypatches.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/when-i-die-bury-me-face-down-so-the-whole-world-can-kiss-my-ass-blue-patch.jpg

[Gunny]

The very same memorial to the dead *is* a memorial celebrating hatred, to those who would view the deaths as a celebratory act, no?No. I realize you leftists have tried to erase it from everything you can but INTENT is everything.

Got to hand it to you, Noir. You remind me of a Whack-a-Mole the way you've taken a SERIOUS beating and keep on popping your head back up. :)

[Noir]

No. I realize you leftists have tried to erase it from everything you can but INTENT is everything.

Intent matters for justification, but not outcomes.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Intent matters for justification, but not outcomes.
How is this for outcome Noir.



https://www.yahoo.com/news/german-court-convicts-migrant-murdering-ex-girlfriend-082331721.html



World
German court convicts migrant of murdering ex-girlfriend
Associated Press KIRSTEN GRIESHABER,Associated Press Mon, Sep 3 8:05 AM CDT

FILE - In this Dec. 28, 2017 file photo a card with a writing 'angels are forever' is placed between candles in Kandel, western Germany, at the site where 15-year-old Mia was stabbed earlier. On Monday, Sept. 3, 2018 the regional court in Landau sentenced her former boyfriend for murder to 8 1/2 years in prison. (Andreas Arnold/dpa via AP)
BERLIN (AP) — A migrant was convicted Monday of murdering his 15-year-old German ex-girlfriend and sentenced to 8.5 years in prison, the German news agency dpa reported.

The stabbing of the 15-year-old girl at a drugstore in the southwestern town of Kandel in December 2017 shocked Germany and fueled a debate about violence by migrants.

The verdict comes at a time when Germany is struggling to come to terms with the influx of more than 1 million migrants since 2015.

Emotions have run high after another fatal stabbing last month, allegedly by two migrants, in the eastern city of Chemnitz. It has triggered sometimes violent protests by far-right groups.

Because of privacy rules, the victim in the Kandel stabbing has been identified only as Mia and the migrant as Abdul D., who was also convicted of assault at the district court in Landau. Authorities did not confirm the perpetrator's nationality and his age, but German media have reported that he is most likely Afghan and he was tried as a minor.

Abdul D. said he was 15 at the time of the murder, but an age evaluation during the trial concluded he was at least 17, dpa reported. Young asylum-seekers, especially unaccompanied minors, have more privileges and get better care in Germany than older asylum-seekers, which is why some of them lie about their age when they apply for asylum. The Kandel case has led for calls to better determine the age of migrants upon their arrival in Germany.

The victim had ended the relationship with the migrant a few weeks before the murder, dpa reported. Twelve days before the fatal attack, she pressed charges against him including insult and threat. Prosecutors claimed during the trial that the migrant acted out of jealously and revenge and that he wanted to punish her.

A lawyer for the migrant said Monday that his client would not appeal the verdict, dpa reported.

In the past months, far-right groups have used Mia's killing to stage several protests against migrants in the small town near the French border —with pro-migrant counter-protests quickly following.


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Germany invites in these ffing vermin and gives them freebies, they practice the commands given by their child molesting hero- Mohammad and murder at will.
And germany gives them the very special muslim-disounted sentence--
a mere eight and half years for MURDER!!

The outcome of inviting these vermin in, giving to them is they practice their Koranic commanded savagery on the innocent civilians they
now have to endure their ever peaceful ways..

Say , does the word-- -reality-- - ever have any real meaning to you??--Tyr

[aboutime]

Intent matters for justification, but not outcomes.


How is your socialist, hate-filled, angry, frustrated, liberal lifestyle working for you?

Just wondering how long it will take you to finally realize. Nobody cares what you say here. You have no credibility to speak, or even offer suggestions about how OUR AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE is any of your concern. Other than the pure hatred that DRIPS from your very, arrogant mind, and uninformed, lips.

[Noir]

How is your socialist, hate-filled, angry, frustrated, liberal lifestyle working for you?

Quite pleasantly.

[Drummond]

Quite pleasantly.

Well, you didn't question the accuracy of the statement, so, it's an accurate summary !!

Explain, then, Noir, what you find 'pleasant' about being 'hate filled'. This is a serious question, as it might shed some light on the true nature and actual 'worth' of a Leftie.

Besides that, you don't make the impact on people (unless it's just to annoy them ?) that you'd hope for. This must bring your unwarranted complacency into severe question ...

[STTAB]

That is quite true, being a private institution.
Perhaps the media blast should have been ignored.

I dunno. I just get tired of the MSM making a mockery of actions that demonstrate
heartfelt tributes to those innocents and first responders that perished that awful day.
I was stationed in NYC, Queens - Bayside for 3 years and most of our reservists
were either cops or firefighters in NYC.

I was off that day, having worked in the Command Center all weekend. I saw it on the
news, went in, showered, shaved and went in to augment the duty personnel.
It was pandemonium in Los Angeles and Long Beach Harbors for several hours.

All agencies were on high alert. USMC and Navy sent shallow water boats loaded with
Marines and Seals to guard the harbors.

I remember exactly where I was that awful day when my cell phone rang "make sure your bag is packed we've already been told we will be deployed"

and I think it's disgusting when liberals of any stripe are catered too simply because they scream and throw a fit, and or other people are simply scared that they will do so.

BUT , I don't like seeing conservatives turn into snowflakes who cry every time THEY are offended. That's left wing pussy bullshit. Let them have it.

[aboutime]

Quite pleasantly.


Of course, as we all know. You had to say that! That's how liberal, haters cover up their true feelings..never HONESTLY telling anyone how they really feel. Probably..BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW ANYHOW.
By the way. Thanks for NOT denying what I said. Now, you must make up something else to appease yourself. Something you believe will be acceptable from the rest of us who KNOW different about you.

[Noir]

Of course, as we all know. You had to say that! That's how liberal, haters cover up their true feelings..never HONESTLY telling anyone how they really feel. Probably..BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW ANYHOW.
By the way. Thanks for NOT denying what I said. Now, you must make up something else to appease yourself. Something you believe will be acceptable from the rest of us who KNOW different about you.

Of all the strange things that have been said to me over the years on the forum, this is up there with the weirdest.

Anyhow, have a good Tuesday!

[aboutime]

Of all the strange things that have been said to me over the years on the forum, this is up there with the weirdest.

Anyhow, have a good Tuesday!

From experience in reading your posts. I'm not surprised when you DECLARE hearing the TRUTH as being "The Weirdest." You aren't alone. Every liberal, socialist loving, hate-filled person who agree's with you would say THE SAME THING.

No surprise. And still, like other liberals we all know. You ignore actually responding by calling it Weird? POT meeting the KETTLE again in Noir.

[STTAB]

That’s fair enough assuming as it comes with the corollary ‘I am not proud of what my ancestors did’.

That's the rub though, those Muslims who ARE offended by such things, secretly they ARE proud of the terrorists. And that is why they are offended by anything that reminds them of the ultimate failure of those terrorists.

Here's an example for you.

Have you EVER saw a Japanese American get outraged over any of the various parades and days we celebrate victory over Japan Day with ? Of course not, because Japanese Americans actually are NOT proud of what their ancestors did.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

Of all the strange things that have been said to me over the years on the forum, this is up there with the weirdest.

Anyhow, have a good Tuesday!
You are an odd little boy. Your looks match your snively little liberal diatribe and ignorant comments.

I don't think you'd like it here in much of America. Maybe you'd be ok in one of the leftist run toilets like San Franqueerco, walking around trying to dodge the piles of human shit and needles everywhere in that liberal utopia, but out here in fly over country, the heartland, weasly little fem boys like you don't usually fit in very well. Too many alpha males around here ready to slap the smart ass right off your face, and you'd probably get it done too.

Have a nice day.

[Noir]

That's the rub though, those Muslims who ARE offended by such things, secretly they ARE proud of the terrorists. And that is why they are offended by anything that reminds them of the ultimate failure of those terrorists.

Here's an example for you.

Have you EVER saw a Japanese American get outraged over any of the various parades and days we celebrate victory over Japan Day with ? Of course not, because Japanese Americans actually are NOT proud of what their ancestors did.

Heavens forbid, an interesting perspective!

I dont think I’ve ever known any Japanese or Japanese Americans, and certainly never dicussed the glorification of their defeat - I have some knowledge of the shame expressed (or rather repressed) by Germans re: Nazism, but that’s not quite the same.

[SassyLady]

The very same memorial to the dead *is* a memorial celebrating hatred, to those who would view the deaths as a celebratory act, no?

No.

The memorials are so we don't forget what happened that day. If a Muslim is offended because we want to remember history, then, as I said before, leave.

A memorial opens dialogue about why it happened. Not having a memorial is trying to erase or rewrite history.

[STTAB]

Heavens forbid, an interesting perspective!

I dont think I’ve ever known any Japanese or Japanese Americans, and certainly never dicussed the glorification of their defeat - I have some knowledge of the shame expressed (or rather repressed) by Germans re: Nazism, but that’s not quite the same.

Ok, well use Germans than instead. They are ashamed and Germans don't try to hide or change their past. Well, a few holocaust deniers do, and we rightfully deride them as the disgusting fools that they are. The Muslims want to get rid of these memorials because they want to erase the past, and why do they want to do that? Because those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it.