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LongTermGuy
08-15-2018, 08:20 PM
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"Evil is a make-believe concept we've invented to deal with the complexities of fellow humans."
A progressive young American couple was killed in an Islamic State-claimed terrorist attack last month while on a bike trip around the world.
Austin and Geoghegan were riding their bikes in the country on July 29 when they were rammed by a car, according (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/washington-dc-couple-american-cyclists-tajikistan-isis-lauren-geoghegan-jay-austin/) to CBS News. Five men got out of the car and stabbed them to death along with two other cyclists, one from Switzerland and the other from the Netherlands.
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~"Their ideals were "open borders", "amnesty for illegals", and they were apologists for Islamic militants. They got exactly what they deserved because it is better that the Left destroys themselves rather that be allowed to destroy Western Civilization." ~
Liberalism a cancer of stupidity...
More:
https://www.pluralist.com/posts/1824-millennial-couple-bikes-through-isis-territory-to-prove-humans-are-kind-and-gets-killed
Elessar
08-16-2018, 01:07 PM
Darwin in action once again.
Somewhat akin to jumping into a tiger's cage because you love animals
and think they will love you in return.
Abbey Marie
08-16-2018, 01:20 PM
Whenever we don’t like the truth, we label it a “construct” or “concept”, ey?
Male and female are distinct genders biologically. Construct
Capitalism works. Construct.
Islam is violent. Construct
Morons.
pete311
08-16-2018, 01:31 PM
Blame the victims. Nice! They shouldn't have died. Maybe not smart to plan this bike ride, but they shouldn't have died. We all take risks in life.
jimnyc
08-16-2018, 01:41 PM
Blame the victims. Nice! They shouldn't have died. Maybe not smart to plan this bike ride, but they shouldn't have died. We all take risks in life.
Well, they took one, made some naive comments prior, and then unfortunately their naivety got them killed.
pete311
08-16-2018, 01:43 PM
Well, they took one, made some naive comments prior, and then unfortunately their naivety got them killed.
They were guilty of delusion and naivety. That makes you guys want to shit on them? Fuck that is disgusting! Hope none of you make a mistake that gets you killed. Or I'm going to shit on you here. Sound fair?
jimnyc
08-16-2018, 01:46 PM
They were guilty of delusion and naivety. That makes you guys want to shit on them? Fuck that is disgusting! Hope none of you make a mistake that gets you killed. Or I'm going to shit on you here. Sound fair?
And where exactly did I do this?
Your inability to read and/or comprehend is showing, again, as usual.
High_Plains_Drifter
08-16-2018, 01:48 PM
Well... I guess it just sucks to be so STUPID that you have to learn this way, and then not even survive your lesson.
Whatever...
pete311
08-16-2018, 01:48 PM
And where exactly did I do this?
Your inability to read and/or comprehend is showing, again, as usual.
I'm speaking to DP in general or did you not read all the posts in this thread?
jimnyc
08-16-2018, 01:50 PM
I'm speaking to DP in general or did you not read all the posts in this thread?
I did, and then I read your reply when you quoted ME. Or did you NOT mean to quote me and then make your comments? You replied to ME and stated "so that makes you guys want to shit on them?"
Don't backpedal now petey
High_Plains_Drifter
08-16-2018, 02:01 PM
They were guilty of delusion and naivety. That makes you guys want to shit on them? Fuck that is disgusting! Hope none of you make a mistake that gets you killed. Or I'm going to shit on you here. Sound fair?
Once again you're deflecting... you're playing ignorant and ignoring the 900 pound gorilla in the room, and that is the STUPIDITY of the way you leftists THINK. You ALL believe this way, you ALL think this kind of MORONIC CRAP. Well this little couple of flower blossoms was going to set out to show US BIG MEANY CONSERVATIVES just how STUPID WE WERE, but that little STUNT BACKFIRED, and we could have TOLD them it would but they wouldn't have BELIEVED US.
You people are STUPID. MUCH of what you believe is just as FUCKED UP as what these two little bubble heads believed. So much of you leftists thinking is DISTORTED CRAP, so OUT OF TOUCH with REALITY, like this new belief that for some MAGICAL reason, if we have SOCIALISM HERE in America, it'll turn out different than say VENEZUELA, or CUBA. We try and tell you people you're WRONG but you don't believe us. You'd rather get yourself KILLED believing your PAP.
Abbey Marie
08-16-2018, 02:34 PM
They were guilty of delusion and naivety. That makes you guys want to shit on them? Fuck that is disgusting! Hope none of you make a mistake that gets you killed. Or I'm going to shit on you here. Sound fair?
Nice language.
Where did I do any of this? I criticized their moronic idea that evil is just a “ concept”. Don’t tell me you think that’s an intelligent belief?
Elessar
08-16-2018, 02:59 PM
I was citing their ignorance that got them killed...Darwinism.
I guess they did not pay attention to any of the atrocities that ISIS
has pulled on non hardline Muslims.
Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
08-16-2018, 05:31 PM
Good. Reality yet again trumped*, over liberal fantasy. If you go out to prove reality is a lie, best be ready to face the coming consequences and get crushed.
These morons believed in their liberal lies and died because of it.
Had these fools made it safely they'd have been celebrated by the dem/libs/leftist/mainstream media - the muslim allies in this nation.
Reality yet again highlighted the lies these ffing idgits tell.
You know the grand lie- that Islam is a religion of peace.
What is not shown, is how many times they raped her before killing her. And trust me-- the animals did just that repeatedly..
If any person thinks not- then they too , are such idiots as these two liberals =*were* (past tense)...Tyr
I'm trying to feel sorry for these people, but it's hard to get past what colossal idiots they were. It's like they would think that if they talked nicely to a bonfire it wouldn't burn them.
These people remind me of the suffering population of Venezuela. My sympathy for them is diminished whenever I consider how they voted a radical Socialist into autocratic powers 20 years ago, inevitably leading to the total collapse of their economy even though they are sitting on one of the biggest oil reserves in the world. They current suffering is a direct result of their previous idiocy.
LongTermGuy
08-16-2018, 07:51 PM
They were guilty of delusion and naivety. That makes you guys want to shit on them? Fuck that is disgusting! Hope none of you make a mistake that gets you killed. Or I'm going to shit on you here. Sound fair?
Not at them pete.....Just Leftist (liberal) stupidity in general....Look at all the Liberal run cities...>FAIL!....Look at all the stupid things Liberals say and do....("America was never Great")...
Open borders equals suicide ..... Look at socialist (Liberal) Europe....with all their tolerance....Europe is being over-run...and its killing them....Pay attention pete....
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Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
08-17-2018, 05:16 AM
They were guilty of delusion and naivety. That makes you guys want to shit on them? Fuck that is disgusting! Hope none of you make a mistake that gets you killed. Or I'm going to shit on you here. Sound fair?
Really???
No Pete, they were --infected-- with the liberal insanity(abject stupidity) that they and those like them infect--others- with!!
So reality took them out...
That some of us highlight this glaring fact and do not feel sorry for them apparently offends your little liberal mind and that way of thinking that you and they promoted has caused great harm to many millions of us!
Tough cookie, why arent the damn libs making a huge deal about this?
I'l tell ya why--it is because it highlights and completely exposes their lies and especially the one they use to support and ally themselves with, the damn cancer called Islam!
The damn insane, murderous cult they so adamantly defend .
I did not send them there- you and your ignorant, completely intolerant kind did with your ffing lies.
So you will get neither sympathy nor tears from me- and guess what that is called Pete- that is called reality..
The same thing that bit them..-Tyr
darin
08-17-2018, 06:37 AM
RIP.
Sucks but it's almost comedic - I mean, it's not unlike drunk rednecks blowing themselves up with homemade "Hey, watch THIS!" kinda thing.
It's like swimming with sharks.
We cannot blame the victim for their murder - but according to half our Elected leaders we also cannot blame the religion of peace.
I hate that they were killed. And i hate they gave up their lives over their naive ideology. And I hate how fuckers who wanna kill people do-so in the name of God.
When idealism meets reality....
Abbey Marie
08-17-2018, 07:49 AM
When idealism meets reality....
Succinct.
:salute:
ETA: Goofy typo.
Some thanked or liked my post. This is the notification I got....
"...... Likes for this post: Millennial Couple Bikes Through ISIS Territory to Prove ‘Humans Are Kind’ > Killed by CSM"
All I can say is...I DIDN'T DO IT!
Black Diamond
08-17-2018, 05:52 PM
Blame the victims. Nice! They shouldn't have died. Maybe not smart to plan this bike ride, but they shouldn't have died. We all take risks in life.
Delusion and naitvete at 29? See this is frightening
pete311
08-17-2018, 06:33 PM
Delusion and naitvete at 29? See this is frightening
Tissue?
Black Diamond
08-17-2018, 06:34 PM
Tissue?
No thanks, cupcake. I'm fine. I didn't know these millennial morons.
Drummond
08-17-2018, 06:35 PM
They were guilty of delusion and naivety. That makes you guys want to shit on them? Fuck that is disgusting! Hope none of you make a mistake that gets you killed. Or I'm going to shit on you here. Sound fair?
Well ... I think they had a point. Human beings are, fundamentally, kind.
But this is NOT the nature of their mistake. What they, and other thoroughly naive Left-wingers always fail to grasp, is ... terrorism is not the product of 'humanity' at all. Those indulging in it cannot be classified as human.
I'm very willing to argue that these people were killed by SUBhumans.
pete311
08-17-2018, 06:35 PM
No thanks, cupcake. I'm fine. I didn't know these millennial morons.
Why you calling me cupcake, are you gay?
Black Diamond
08-17-2018, 06:44 PM
Why you calling me cupcake, are you gay?
No. Sorry to disappoint you. If you think being 29 and idealistic, naive, and stupid is ok, that's good by me.
Black Diamond
08-17-2018, 06:46 PM
Well ... I think they had a point. Human beings are, fundamentally, kind.
But this is NOT the nature of their mistake. What they, and other thoroughly naive Left-wingers always fail to grasp, is ... terrorism is not the product of 'humanity' at all. Those indulging in it cannot be classified as human.
I'm very willing to argue that these people were killed by SUBhumans.
Well said. But I don't totally agree I think such people are not subhuman. I don't think the nazis were subhuman either. I have a dark view of human nature. And what humans are capable of.
jimnyc
08-17-2018, 07:09 PM
Will there be future dumbasses on the horizon that think they can just smile and wander through such zones and get a pass? No sympathy whatsoever from me.
Elessar
08-17-2018, 07:27 PM
Well ... I think they had a point. Human beings are, fundamentally, kind.
But this is NOT the nature of their mistake. What they, and other thoroughly naive Left-wingers always fail to grasp, is ... terrorism is not the product of 'humanity' at all. Those indulging in it cannot be classified as human.
I'm very willing to argue that these people were killed by SUBhumans.
Subhumans living in a 9th century A.D. mindset of murder, brutality, rape,
see females as either targets or completely inferior - As did their spiritual leader
Mohammed.
pete311
08-17-2018, 07:41 PM
No. Sorry to disappoint you. If you think being 29 and idealistic, naive, and stupid is ok, that's good by me.
20s is a time to explore and make mistakes. Not die, but make mistakes.
pete311
08-17-2018, 07:43 PM
Will there be future dumbasses on the horizon that think they can just smile and wander through such zones and get a pass? No sympathy whatsoever from me.
So being dumb deserves to die? Cold. Real cold. You're perfect.
pete311
08-17-2018, 07:55 PM
Lets make this clear. Setting foot anywhere on god's green earth is not a crime worthy of death unless I missed that in the ten commandments. Thou shall not bike in Tajikistan or penalty of death. Foolishness is very different than deserving to die.
Gunny
08-17-2018, 08:32 PM
Tissue?"They shouldn't have been killed" ... STFU. See CSM's response. Reality, MFer, is a bitch. The further away your mind lives from it, the bigger a bitch it is when it strikes.
They murder people en masse on youtube. Questions?
FakeNewsSux
08-17-2018, 10:19 PM
Lets make this clear. Setting foot anywhere on god's green earth is not a crime worthy of death unless I missed that in the ten commandments. Thou shall not bike in Tajikistan or penalty of death. Foolishness is very different than deserving to die.
You're reading the wrong holy book, Pete. Try sneaking into Mecca as a non believer or any number of radicalized hell holes and see how far Allah goes out of his way to protect you.
Black Diamond
08-18-2018, 11:51 AM
How many of these incidents is it going to take for millennials to understand?
Elessar
08-18-2018, 11:56 AM
How many of these incidents is it going to take for millennials to understand?
Given how hardheaded, spoiled, and "how perfect I am" they behave,
and "It cannot happen to me" thinking, I kind of figure that is a lost cause.
Black Diamond
08-18-2018, 11:56 AM
Lets make this clear. Setting foot anywhere on god's green earth is not a crime worthy of death unless I missed that in the ten commandments. Thou shall not bike in Tajikistan or penalty of death. Foolishness is very different than deserving to die.
I bet if some Christians died handling poisonous snakes you'd be ridiculing them.
jimnyc
08-18-2018, 12:01 PM
Will there be future dumbasses on the horizon that think they can just smile and wander through such zones and get a pass? No sympathy whatsoever from me.
So being dumb deserves to die? Cold. Real cold. You're perfect.
I wondered out loud as to whether or not other dumbasses might do something similar in the future. And if they chose to do so, I wouldn't have any sympathy for them.
Now, are you REALLY that stupid and you can't comprehend 2 sentences? Where in there did I say anything about anyone "deserving" to die? And that's twice now, so I'm leaning towards you simply being stupid and unable to comprehend even simple sentences. Or an idiot, or both, if there's a difference.
I know I am perfect.
I hope you decide to go on a bicycle ride abroad. I'll help you with directions if you like!
Black Diamond
08-18-2018, 12:06 PM
I wonder if these millennials would have ridden their bikes through the south side of Chicago, Detroit, Oakland, rough parts of Los Angeles....
Black Diamond
08-18-2018, 12:09 PM
I wondered out loud as to whether or not other dumbasses might do something similar in the future. And if they chose to do so, I wouldn't have any sympathy for them.
Now, are you REALLY that stupid and you can't comprehend 2 sentences? Where in there did I say anything about anyone "deserving" to die? And that's twice now, so I'm leaning towards you simply being stupid and unable to comprehend even simple sentences. Or an idiot, or both, if there's a difference.
I know I am perfect.
I hope you decide to go on a bicycle ride abroad. I'll help you with directions if you like!
Well you want Brennan to hang.. So
jimnyc
08-18-2018, 12:11 PM
Well you want Brennan to hang.. So
Yup, along with a few other democrats! :laugh:
Abbey Marie
08-18-2018, 12:32 PM
20s is a time to explore and make mistakes. Not die, but make mistakes.
I got the distinct impression this was less about an adventure, than it was an attempt to prove a point.
Abbey Marie
08-18-2018, 12:33 PM
How many of these incidents is it going to take for millennials to understand?
Big Blue is trying to calculate the number, but apparently it is too large.
Mr. P
08-18-2018, 12:38 PM
It's been proven time and again...YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID.
LongTermGuy
08-18-2018, 11:12 PM
Meanwhile, in Germany and France, people are fighting back against mass immigration to the point of civil war.......and Leftist (Liberals) remain stupid...
https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1029782960348774400/FjFn2EY6?format=jpg&name=600x314
`CIVIL WAR IS COMING: Germany now joins France as citizens from both countries flood the streets in rage against Islamic immigration`
Germany is now joining France in the enormous build up to civil War as right-wing radicalization takes hold as a result of the migrant crisis and the recent Terrorist attacks. Street fighting has now erupted in Germany with citizens clashing with police across several german cities........
http://www.cvikasdrv.com/2018/08/15/civil-war-is-coming-germany-now-joins-france-as-citizens-from-both-countries-flood-the-streets-in-rage-against-islamic-immigration/
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https://economyandmarkets.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Its-Coming-Are-You-Prepared.jpg
terrorism is not the product of 'humanity' at all. Those indulging in it cannot be classified as human.
Terrorism is very much a product of humanity. Created by, and carried out by humans.
Pretending that there are ‘others’ or ‘non-classified humans’ or whatever you want to call them is counterproductive imo. Humans murder, humans rape, humans extort etc etc
Black Diamond
08-19-2018, 05:30 AM
Terrorism is very much a product of humanity. Created by, and carried out by humans.
Pretending that there are ‘others’ or ‘non-classified humans’ or whatever you want to call them is counterproductive imo. Humans murder, humans rape, humans extort etc etc
I agree terrorists are human. But there's nothing counterproductive in saying they aren't.
I agree terrorists are human. But there's nothing counterproductive in saying they aren't.
I think there is - otherism makes things seem foreign/disconnected when that’s not the case. It also closes the door on integration and rehabilitation in circumstances were it otherwise may be possible.
Black Diamond
08-19-2018, 06:04 AM
I think there is - otherism makes things seem foreign/disconnected when that’s not the case. It also closes the door on integration and rehabilitation in circumstances were it otherwise may be possible.
Some humans cannot be integrated nor rehabilitated.
Some humans cannot be integrated nor rehabilitated.
Some, maybe, but I think that is a small net to cast.
I was reading a excerpt of a Nazi recently, he was the leader of his group and over years got about as low as you could expect. Then, per chance, after lynching a black man who happened to stumble upon their group in a McDonald’s one night, his perspective changed. He left the group, and now spends his time trying to counsel nazis out of their belief system.
Now whether or not you believe violent nazi thugs etc should be integrated or rehabilitated into society is one thing, but having read the story’s of their violence committed both physical and psychological, and acknowledging that they can come back, is important.
Gunny
08-19-2018, 11:20 AM
Some, maybe, but I think that is a small net to cast.
I was reading a excerpt of a Nazi recently, he was the leader of his group and over years got about as low as you could expect. Then, per chance, after lynching a black man who happened to stumble upon their group in a McDonald’s one night, his perspective changed. He left the group, and now spends his time trying to counsel nazis out of their belief system.
Now whether or not you believe violent nazi thugs etc should be integrated or rehabilitated into society is one thing, but having read the story’s of their violence committed both physical and psychological, and acknowledging that they can come back, is important.Good thing there's that ONE person. Did his repentance bring the black guy back to life?
Nope. He's STILL dead no matter how sorry Mr Ex-whatever is. First
One of the first things you learn in Okinawan te ... the best way to win a bar fight is to not go to the bar.
I think there is - otherism makes things seem foreign/disconnected when that’s not the case. It also closes the door on integration and rehabilitation in circumstances were it otherwise may be possible.
I take your point, but I think we are war against terrorists, and war changes a lot of things. By "we" I mean America, western Europe, and Israel - basically all the countries that terrorists are targeting.
The most basic thing that war changes is that "we" have to believe we are the good guys, and that the people we are war against are not good-just-misunderstood guys. Vietnam showed how impossible it is to fight a war if people on your side start thinking that the other side is "good-just-misunderstood". It is the first step toward being the losing side.
I take your point, but I think we are war against terrorists, and war changes a lot of things. By "we" I mean America, western Europe, and Israel - basically all the countries that terrorists are targeting.
The most basic thing that war changes is that "we" have to believe we are the good guys, and that the people we are war against are not good-just-misunderstood guys. Vietnam showed how impossible it is to fight a war if people on your side start thinking that the other side is "good-just-misunderstood". It is the first step toward being the losing side.
I grew up in a country in which terrorism was a daily occurrence, with the ‘otherism’ mindset on both sides, it doesn’t help, it hinders.
Gunny
08-19-2018, 11:41 AM
I take your point, but I think we are war against terrorists, and war changes a lot of things. By "we" I mean America, western Europe, and Israel - basically all the countries that terrorists are targeting.
The most basic thing that war changes is that "we" have to believe we are the good guys, and that the people we are war against are not good-just-misunderstood guys. Vietnam showed how impossible it is to fight a war if people on your side start thinking that the other side is "good-just-misunderstood". It is the first step toward being the losing side.Couldn't have said that better. Tried many times as a matter of fact. Those people do NOT think like us. Period. They believe THEY are the "good guy" every bit as much as we do.
Then along comes the moral equivalence folk with zero regard for the real World in real time and want to make US the bad guys. All that's fine and dandy and we all probably want a nice, peaceful utopia to live in. Reality is we are in a war of cultures and there WILL BE a winner and loser. Those sitting on the sidelines are as worthless as tits on a boar.
I grew up in a country in which terrorism was a daily occurrence, with the ‘otherism’ mindset on both sides, it doesn’t help, it hinders.
Unfortunately, it is a sad fact of life. If Side A sympathizes with Side B but Side B doesn't sympathize with Side A, Side B will win every time.
If the Allies had had more sympathy or for the Axis during WWII, for example, it might have changed who won the war. Western Europe would have been sympathetic (and would have been nicer people) during the whole war, right up to the point where Germany took over Europe. Unfortunately, during war it is better to be unsympathetic.
Black Diamond
08-19-2018, 12:07 PM
Unfortunately, it is a sad fact of life. If Side A sympathizes with Side B but Side B doesn't sympathize with Side A, Side B will win every time.
If the Allies had had more sympathy or for the Axis during WWII, for example, it might have changed who won the war. Western Europe would have been sympathetic (and would have been nicer people) during the whole war, right up to the point where Germany took over Europe. Unfortunately, during war it is better to be unsympathetic.
Somehow chamberlain fits into what you're saying here.
Abbey Marie
08-19-2018, 12:10 PM
Some, maybe, but I think that is a small net to cast.
I was reading a excerpt of a Nazi recently, he was the leader of his group and over years got about as low as you could expect. Then, per chance, after lynching a black man who happened to stumble upon their group in a McDonald’s one night, his perspective changed. He left the group, and now spends his time trying to counsel nazis out of their belief system.
Now whether or not you believe violent nazi thugs etc should be integrated or rehabilitated into society is one thing, but having read the story’s of their violence committed both physical and psychological, and acknowledging that they can come back, is important.
Yet, the fact that that one Nazi could eventually be rehabilitated, was of zero help to the lynched black guy. Which is the point.
Gunny
08-19-2018, 12:14 PM
Somehow chamberlain fits into what you're saying here.Poor Chamberlain. All he wanted was peace and all his appeasement did was embolden the enemy who could give a crap less about peace. His name gets dropped a LOT :)
Don't forget Obama. Although his motives were different, he basically kissed every one of our enemy's asses and even made a one-sided deal with Iran all for his ego and "legacy". He is THE perfect example of what Russ is speaking of: Sympathetic to the enemy every bit as much as Chamberlain and Jimmy Carter were unrealistic, Utopian idealism.
Abbey Marie
08-19-2018, 12:19 PM
Unfortunately, it is a sad fact of life. If Side A sympathizes with Side B but Side B doesn't sympathize with Side A, Side B will win every time.
If the Allies had had more sympathy or for the Axis during WWII, for example, it might have changed who won the war. Western Europe would have been sympathetic (and would have been nicer people) during the whole war, right up to the point where Germany took over Europe. Unfortunately, during war it is better to be unsympathetic.
As you know, we also saw this with King Alfred’s stand against the Vikings taking over the last bit of what is now England.
Today’s liberals would no doubt encourage Alfred to try to “understand” the invaders, and see their utter goodness. :laugh:
Heck, they might even invite them in.
Don't forget Obama. Although his motives were different, he basically kissed every one of our enemy's asses and even made a one-sided deal with Iran all for his ego and "legacy". .
Amen. From the moment Obama got elected he had only one thing he cared about - legacy. He could care less about helping the nation, about making the world safer, about race riots, about the US economy, or even about healthcare. He just wanted to make momentous changes that would be hard for any successor to undo, so that he could have his historic legacy for the history books. Obama's picture should be in every dictionary next to the work "hubris".
Yet, the fact that that one Nazi could eventually be rehabilitated, was of zero help to the lynched black guy. Which is the point.
Of course not - but it was of help to the black guys he didn’t lynch in the future if he had continued on that path, which is not inconsequential.
Gunny
08-19-2018, 12:33 PM
Of course not - but it was of help to the black guys he didn’t lynch in the future if he had continued on that path, which is not inconsequential.:smoke:
You need to put down the bong or bottle or glue or whatever. It's NOT helping you :)
Abbey Marie
08-19-2018, 12:42 PM
Of course not - but it was of help to the black guys he didn’t lynch in the future if he had continued on that path, which is not inconsequential.
But it is inconsequential to anyone traveling there now, and for the foreseeable future. How does that help someone traveling through an area filled with terrorists now? Isn’t that what is being discussed? Everything else is in the category of wishes and dreams, your anecdotal story notwithstanding.
If you are saying we should all bike right on through and hope they’ve all seen the light like your Nazi guy, I’m going to have to disagree.
If you’re saying we can change their actions by squeezing our eyes shut, and intoning, “Terrorists are good people”, I’m going to have to disagree.
I’m sure you know the story of the scorpion and the frog?
Noir, which is your cart, and which is your horse? Do you think we in the West have made them terrorists because we hate the killing and raping and absolute lack of human rights? Or did we just respond to those actions with disgust and fear?
Gunny
08-19-2018, 01:05 PM
But it is inconsequential to anyone traveling there now, and for the foreseeable future. How does that help someone traveling through an area filled with terrorists now? Isn’t that what is being discussed? Everything else is in the category of wishes and dreams, your anecdotal story notwithstanding.
If you are saying we should all bike right on through and hope they’ve all seen the light like your Nazi guy, I’m going to have to disagree.
If you’re saying we can change their actions by squeezing our eyes shut, and intoning, “Terrorists are good people”, I’m going to have to disagree.
I’m sure you know the story of the scorpion and the frog?
Noir, which is your cart, and which is your horse? Do you think we in the West have made them terrorists because we hate the killing and raping and absolute lack of human rights? Or did we just respond to those actions with disgust and fear?good point. "Terrorists" are CRIMINALS. Islamic terrorists live to kill anything or one that believes differently than them. There is no negotiating with them. They are out to convert or kill you. Either way, you mean nothing to them. They believe they are going to Heaven for it and are willing to kill themselves to kill you. They have proven themselves willing to do so for decades since Arafat started the crap back in the 50s.
That's pretty straight-forward and simple. Nothing confusing at all. Except people who cannot understand the simple science of action/reaction or the concept of consequence.
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