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darin
08-13-2018, 05:55 AM
Pete Carroll is borderline HOF. If the hawks make another SB I think Pete should be in.


In 2000, Bill Belichick inherited a team with Drew Bledsoe, Ty Law (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/2382/ty-law), Damien Woody (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/1513/damien-woody), Tebucky Jones (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/1680/tebucky-jones), Willie McGinest, Terry Glenn, Tedy Bruschi (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/1656/tedy-bruschi), Lawyer Milloy, Kevin Faulk (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/1665/kevin-faulk), Ted Johnson, Troy Brown (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/1655/troy-brown); all of whom were a part of at least the Patriots (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/new-england-patriots) first championship.

In 2006, Dungy...won a Super Bowl with the Indianapolis Colts (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/teams/indianapolis-colts). He took over that team in 2002, when they already had Peyton Manning, Marvin Harrison (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/2796/marvin-harrison), Tarik Glenn (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/2792/tarik-glenn), Reggie Wayne (http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/players/2834/reggie-wayne), and Jeff Saturday; those five players also happened to be the only five players to make the Pro Bowl in the year that Indy won the Super Bowl.

Of course, Mike Tomlin inherited most of Bill Cowher's team and won a Super Bowl in his second season. Like coaches before him in San Francisco and Dallas, Tomlin was given the rare opportunity to take over a championship team from a head coach that was just tired of the daily grind, rather than taking over a mess of a franchise like Seattle was in 2010.

Pete Carroll won a Super Bowl despite the fact that the only players on the team that were drafted by Mike Holmgren or Jim Mora were Max Unger (2nd), Brandon Mebane (3rd), and Red Bryant (4th) and Punter Jon Ryan.

https://www.fieldgulls.com/2014/4/4/5581748/pete-carroll-contract-extension-seahawks-charlie-whitehurst-lol

High_Plains_Drifter
08-13-2018, 01:27 PM
What's the NFL?

... :rolleyes:

Black Diamond
08-13-2018, 04:00 PM
Who?

Elessar
08-13-2018, 11:57 PM
Joe Gibbs did.

Pete Carroll wrecked the USC program with his under the table
behavior.

HOF my ass!

darin
08-14-2018, 03:33 AM
Joe Gibbs did.

Pete Carroll wrecked the USC program with his under the table
behavior.

HOF my ass!

USC doesn't impact his HOF credentials :) And he wasn't accused of doing anything specifically wrong - just that things went wrong while he was there.


Pete Carroll > Joe Gibbs.

Russ
08-14-2018, 07:18 PM
I will agree - Pete Carroll and Joe Gibbs are both excellent coaches. I'm not sure I would describe them as "doing more with less", since I think both of them had excellent players after making excellent draft choices, like Russell Wilson, Richard Sherman, and Daryl Green, but both of them created great game plans.

Elessar
08-14-2018, 11:41 PM
Gibbs stated out with nothing and built a team by getting John Riggins, Darryl Green, Art Monk,
The Hogs, and the Posse. And they won championships with 3 different quarterbacks.

darin
08-15-2018, 01:20 AM
I will agree - Pete Carroll and Joe Gibbs are both excellent coaches. I'm not sure I would describe them as "doing more with less", since I think both of them had excellent players after making excellent draft choices, like Russell Wilson, Richard Sherman, and Daryl Green, but both of them created great game plans.

I'm talking about from the day he arrived until he brought the team to a sustained high level of play. The excellent drafts simply point to their ability.

Gunny
08-15-2018, 04:19 PM
Jimmy Johnson did more with less.