Any Thoughts?

[Kathianne]

I have no opinion. It's Hotair, mostly a site that isn't against the administration. It describes itself as being 'conservative' but maybe not:

https://hotair.com/archives/2018/07/19/lankford-come-no-way-turning-us-diplomat-putins-security-forces/

[jimnyc]

That, and also the information about this donation to Hillary for $400,000. This stuff is most certainly worth looking into!

[Kathianne]

That, and also the information about this donation to Hillary for $400,000. This stuff is most certainly worth looking into!

Should we 'turn over' US diplomats, for Russia to investigate? If so, do we stop honoring diplomatic immunity to theirs?

[Black Diamond]

What sanders and trump said are possible or on the table and what will happen are probably two different things.

[jimnyc]

Should we 'turn over' US diplomats, for Russia to investigate? If so, do we stop honoring diplomatic immunity to theirs?

IMO, of course diplomatic immunity stays as is. But if they want to work on sharing information, I have zero issue with that. But the article is all over the place in talking about sharing information all the way to turning folks over. NO to turning anyone over.

I wouldn't mind in sitting down and sharing information though, a fact finding mission of sorts.

Handing anyone over? absolutely not.

[Kathianne]

IMO, of course diplomatic immunity stays as is. But if they want to work on sharing information, I have zero issue with that. But the article is all over the place in talking about sharing information all the way to turning folks over. NO to turning anyone over.

I wouldn't mind in sitting down and sharing information though, a fact finding mission of sorts.

Handing anyone over? absolutely not.

Maybe more clear? https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/white-house-weighing-putin-request-to-interrogate-americans-linked-to-top-critic-browder/

[jimnyc]

Maybe more clear? https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/white-house-weighing-putin-request-to-interrogate-americans-linked-to-top-critic-browder/

Immunity stays as is, I would never break from that stance. Regardless of anything, I would love to know more about Browder and all of this money.

No handing over of anyone will be taking place. But I wouldn't mind a goal of a sit down of some sorts, find out "facts" about Browder and this donation stuff. I am unsure how we can help them in return, if information will somehow help them with anything within their borders. But this I would see as informational meeting only. Immunity stays, and I see no reason to be handing anyone over.

[Kathianne]

Immunity stays as is, I would never break from that stance. Regardless of anything, I would love to know more about Browder and all of this money.

No handing over of anyone will be taking place. But I wouldn't mind a goal of a sit down of some sorts, find out "facts" about Browder and this donation stuff. I am unsure how we can help them in return, if information will somehow help them with anything within their borders. But this I would see as informational meeting only. Immunity stays, and I see no reason to be handing anyone over.

I'm curious, do you think the US should follow the Russian lead on this? Are you saying Browder should be investigated by U.S.? I'm not sure what you mean?

[jimnyc]

I'm curious, do you think the US should follow the Russian lead on this? Are you saying Browder should be investigated by U.S.? I'm not sure what you mean?

I thought it was very clear. It seems as if there is a possibility of wrongdoing going towards the Clinton campaign, and I don't see an issue with sitting down with Russian authorities to see what facts they have on this issue.

[jimnyc]

I don't think any plan of handing folks over to their death is acceptable. Hell, nor really handing over anyone at all - unless it's a murderer on the run or similar. But if Russia has the goods on Hillary, and Browder was involved, I would sure like to know! If he did illegal crap HERE, then he can join Hillary in prison stripes. :)

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Bill Browder describes what will happen to him if Trump accepts Putin's plan

One of Vladimir Putin’s fiercest critics says that the Russian leader will have him killed if President Donald Trump follows through with a proposal to hand him over to the Russian government.

“To hand me over to Putin is basically to hand me over to my death,” Bill Browder, a London-based banker and human rights activist, said on CNN Thursday. “Effectively what the Russians have said very clearly on a number of occasions is they would like to get me back to Russia, they would like to send me back to Russia. And once I’m back in Russia, they would like to kill me.”

Browder, a U.S.-born British citizen, is the leading lobbyist behind the Magnitsky Act, a law passed by Congress in 2012 that sanctions Russian human rights abusers.

The bill is named after Browder’s lawyer, Sergei Magnitsky. Browder says that Magnitsky was murdered in a Russian prison in 2009 because of investigation into a massive tax fraud scheme involving Russian organized crime. The Kremlin has accused Browder of fabricating the Magnitsky case in order to cover up his own financial misdealings.

Browder told CNN that his work on the Magnitsky Act has made Putin “extremely angry” because the law freezes up wealthy Russians’ assets and prevents them from traveling to Western countries. Putin retaliated against the Magnitsky Act in 2013 by barring Americans from adopting Russian children.

Rest - http://dailycaller.com/2018/07/19/bill-browder-putin-killed-trump/

[High_Plains_Drifter]

That, and also the information about this donation to Hillary for $400,000. This stuff is most certainly worth looking into!
More like $400,000,000.


Should we 'turn over' US diplomats, for Russia to investigate? If so, do we stop honoring diplomatic immunity to theirs?
Should Russia hand over the 12 Russians to the US that Mueller indicted?

[jimnyc]

More like $400,000,000.?

They clarified fairly quickly after the statement that it was $400,000 and not the former. It was several sources, but here is just one:


On Tuesday, government officials in Moscow said he meant $400,000, not $400 million.

https://www.boston.com/news/politics/2018/07/17/ap-fact-check-trump-almost-alone-in-view-of-russia-meddling

[jimnyc]

Should Russia hand over the 12 Russians to the US that Mueller indicted?

That's a real tough question there. I don't like this investigation any more than you do, and I think it's turned into a witch hunt based on what it's original intent was. But if we are only asking for information about Browder, then that's all they should expect to get in return, is information. This might be unacceptable to them? I don't know. But SHOULD they hand them over? I'd have to see the totality of the evidence against them. But would we hand over 12 citizens to Iran? to Russia even? doubtful.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

That's a real tough question there. I don't like this investigation any more than you do, and I think it's turned into a witch hunt based on what it's original intent was. But if we are only asking for information about Browder, then that's all they should expect to get in return, is information. This might be unacceptable to them? I don't know. But SHOULD they hand them over? I'd have to see the totality of the evidence against them. But would we hand over 12 citizens to Iran? to Russia even? doubtful.
It's really pointless to even ponder the question. No way is either nation going to hand over anyone that has anything to do with this farcical Russian collusion probe. The Russians know dang well it's a farce since they're the ones that helped concoct the fake dossier. If any nation did deserve to have it's people interrogated, it would be Russia though.

But Putin isn't going to play games with Mueller.

[aboutime]

Our president, or Secretary of State....DISCLOSING conversations behind closed doors is absolutely...DUMB.

The ramifications of doing so would instantly be....Nobody would ever trust us to remain confidential, or secret..EVER AGAIN.

Much like Confidential Informants for the Police. Disclosing their names, with what they told the police would end ALL SOURCES of information, not to mention, making the safety of the Informant dangerously in peril.
Think about it this way. Democrats DEMAND we get rid of ALL CLASSIFIED information markings, and just advertise all of our private, secrets on the INTERNET to the entire World.

Even YOUR NAME, SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER, LICENSE NUMBER, FINANCIAL, AND MEDICAL RECORDS TO ....ANYONE WHO WANTS THEM!

Would you like that?????

[aboutime]

Sorry for duplicate post.