Incel

[Abbey Marie]

Have you heard of these folks?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel

In a nutshell, these are described as mostly white male introverts, who can’t find “romantic or sexual partners”. They self-describe as “Involuntarily Celibate”, or “Incel”. Problem is, they tend to advocate violence against sexually- active women.

I would be more skeptical, but two women in a nearby development received very threatening notes from these folks this week.

I feel as though these basement-dwellers are not too far from Muslims, who tend to treat women like property, and they will not be denied their rightful property.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Have you heard of these folks?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel

In a nutshell, these are described as mostly white male introverted, who can’t find “romantic or sexual partners”. They self-describe as “Involuntarily Celibate”, or “Intel”. Problem is, they tend to advocate violence against sexually- active women.

I would be more skeptical, but two women in a nearby development received very threatening notes from these folks this week.

I feel as though these are basement-dwellers are not too far from Muslims, who tend to treat women like property, and they will not be denied their rightful property.

Has their religion been verified? They may be muslims...
Muslims view women as property (to be used abused, enslaved, bought , sold, beaten , killed and/or tortured), it is commanded in their cult book..-Tyr

[SassyLady]

Toronto Terrorist


Alek Minassian (https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-facebook-post-connected-to-suspect-in-van-rampage-cites-incel/), the man who killed 10 people by driving a van down a busy street in Toronto on Monday, is a terrorist.
We know this because he told us so. On Tuesday afternoon, Facebook (https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-facebook-post-connected-to-suspect-in-van-rampage-cites-incel/) confirmed the authenticity of a post in his name, in which he pledged allegiance to something called the “Incel Rebellion (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43883052).” This is not an organized militant group but rather an ideal developed by the so-called “incel” movement — an online community of men united by their inability to convince women to have sex with them. (“Incel” stands for “involuntarily celibate.”)
Some self-identified incels, as they call themselves, have developed an elaborate sociopolitical explanation for their sexual failures, one that centers on the idea that women are shallow, vicious, and only attracted to hyper-muscular men. They see this as a profound injustice against men like them, who suffer an inherent genetic disadvantage through no fault of their own. A small radical fringe believes that violence, especially against women, is an appropriate response — that an “Incel Rebellion” or “Beta [Male] Uprising” will eventually overturn the sexual status quo.


https://www.vox.com/world/2018/4/25/17277496/incel-toronto-attack-alek-minassian

[Abbey Marie]

[COLOR=#4C4E4D][FONT=Balto]Toronto Terrorist

https://www.vox.com/world/2018/4/25/17277496/incel-toronto-attack-alek-minassian


Yup, that’s them. It’s scary when disaffected losers get to feeling self-righteous. I find it disgusting when someone thinks they have a “right” to a woman. And now it’s close to home.

[darin]

I remember reading about a killer - I dont recall which - maybe Ted Bundy? Anywho as the story went the author spoke of men wanting to punish women for denying them sex. Because in the warped view of the man, women had ALL the sex and he deserved some!

Now, on a fundamental level the origin of the feeling is not a lot different than Antifa and Progressives protesting Wealth. The way they see it is this - "The Man" has ALL the monies and isn't giving THEM the monies - thus it's unfair and TheMan must be punished."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NOPQw1FXLY

[Abbey Marie]

Very insightful, Darin.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

Weird sons a bitches...

[Abbey Marie]

I also believe this is a by-product of our sex-obsessed culture. Coupled with many young womens’ lack of any sense of decorum whatsoever.

[Noir]

Incels are a recently coined community that can really claim a lot of their foundation on ‘GamerGate’. The men involved are mostly white, right leaning, and behave on the internet as trolls, and irl as stalkers/gaslighters/rapists.

On the whole they are a problem from the right, and as such they may only be reasonably contactable via the right - for which I think Jordon Peterson (recently mentioned in other threads) is doing about as good a job as anyone.

[darin]

Incels are a recently coined community that can really claim a lot of their foundation on ‘GamerGate’. The men involved are mostly white, right leaning, and behave on the internet as trolls, and irl as stalkers/gaslighters/rapists.

On the whole they are a problem from the right, and as such they may only be reasonably contactable via the right - for which I think Jordon Peterson (recently mentioned in other threads) is doing about as good a job as anyone.

I think the technical name for what you wrote is "Crock of shit" and merely an attempt at satire. "attempt" is the key word :)

[CSM]

Incels are a recently coined community that can really claim a lot of their foundation on ‘GamerGate’. The men involved are mostly white, right leaning, and behave on the internet as trolls, and irl as stalkers/gaslighters/rapists.

On the whole they are a problem from the right, and as such they may only be reasonably contactable via the right - for which I think Jordon Peterson (recently mentioned in other threads) is doing about as good a job as anyone.

WOW.... I have little doubt that the men under discussion could not care less about politics. Nice troll though.

[Noir]

WOW.... I have little doubt that the men under discussion could not care less about politics. Nice troll though.

Its not a troll, this is the continuation of a thread that has been ongoing for many years, and is starting to impact well beyond its initial reach.

If you’re interested in the story, I would advise reading up on ‘GamerGate’ and proceeding from there.

As an interesting aside, the term SJW/Social Justice Warrior was popularised during gamergate, as well as many other memes that you may be familiar with, like Pepe frog etc.

At the very least you’d have to concede that women’s rights (which is something Incels aren’t to fond of) is a political issue, and in that sense alone they very much care about politics.

[darin]

Its not a troll, this is the continuation of a thread that has been ongoing for many years, and is starting to impact well beyond its initial reach.

If you’re interested in the story, I would advise reading up on ‘GamerGate’ and proceeding from there.

As an interesting aside, the term SJW/Social Justice Warrior was popularised during gamergate, as well as many other memes that you may be familiar with, like Pepe frog etc.

At the very least you’d have to concede that women’s rights (which is something Incels aren’t to fond of) is a political issue, and in that sense alone they very much care about politics.

Conservatives are much much stronger proponents of women's rights than liberals, Brother.

Incels and Leftists:
"Give me what I do not have, that YOU have in abundance"
"I am OWED a privilege!"
"Sex and Women are objects"
"Democracy over ALL!" (That is to say, if MOST people want to do something, it should be done!"

Conservatives:
"Nobody has a right to something they don't have simply by virtue of their existence"
"Humans deserve respect and posses a right to life and liberty and pursuit of happiness (as THEY define it) insofar that such pursuit does not adversely affect the pursuit of others. "
"Representative republics defend the minority from the will of sometimes-oppressive majority"

[CSM]

Its not a troll, this is the continuation of a thread that has been ongoing for many years, and is starting to impact well beyond its initial reach.

If you’re interested in the story, I would advise reading up on ‘GamerGate’ and proceeding from there.

As an interesting aside, the term SJW/Social Justice Warrior was popularised during gamergate, as well as many other memes that you may be familiar with, like Pepe frog etc.

At the very least you’d have to concede that women’s rights (which is something Incels aren’t to fond of) is a political issue, and in that sense alone they very much care about politics.

You may be correct in your last statement but I still think it is not so much about politics as it is "ethics". Gamergate was all about some gamers reacting to some female game developers and the ethics involved in their treatment. It is notable that the whole thing was started by stories from a guy upset over a girl cheating on him (supposedly). It initially had nothing to do with politics.

The people categorized as "Incel" could possibly have issues (mental or otherwise) that have nothing to do with gaming (and probably contribute to their inability to get laid). Again, women's rights are a political issue. I don't question that. I do question that Incels are "right leaning white males".

[Abbey Marie]

Anything and everything can be perceived as political if desired. But to state that Incel losers and the like are making a political statement, or are politically motivated, is to very much miss the main point.

These are pathetic losers who hate their lack of power over women. As Darin said, they feel they deserve to get what they want without “earning it”.

Not a left or right issue, per se. But if you insist, let’s consider which party runs on handouts.

:eek:

[CSM]

In retrospect, I find it rather disconcerting that this is whole Incel thing is being portrayed (in this particular case) as a political issue. The fact that it has been presented so that it appears that white male conservatives are somehow morally inferior belies the real issue... some rather disturbed people are out there thinking that they are OWED female companionship based on their perception of have/have not. Clearly, there is something deeper than mere politics at work here.

[SassyLady]

On the whole they are a problem from the right, and as such they may only be reasonably contactable via the right - for which I think Jordon Peterson (recently mentioned in other threads) is doing about as good a job as anyone.

Jordan Peterson's appeal is spotlighting personal responsibility. And, anyone who thinks he only appeals to young, white males is missing the whole point. I doubt Incels are enamored of Peterson's commentary of ethical and moral behavior.

[Noir]

Jordan Peterson's appeal is spotlighting personal responsibility. And, anyone who thinks he only appeals to young, white males is missing the whole point. I doubt Incels are enamored of Peterson's commentary of ethical and moral behavior.

The ‘respect yourself’ is an easier pill to swallow than ‘respect women’s choices’ and as such probably a better stepping stone to the desired outcome than would be offered by leftist thinkers.

[pete311]

If you guys want to be truly worried for the future and depressed browse the big incel forum
https://incels.me/

These guys are fucked in the head

[FakeNewsSux]

If you guys want to be truly worried for the future and depressed browse the big incel forum
https://incels.me/

These guys are fucked in the head

As Rush would say, "The endless parade of human debris." I agree Pete but 'fucked in the head' may be putting it to gently. Sadly, these are just the souls the radical left is looking to recruit in their campaign to destabilize the society. The current wave in this decades old effort began with the redefinition of marriage. Even candidate Obama was against it but when the donations from the gay community dried up on his reelection run, gay marriage became the law of the land. Once the gay community was taken for granted (much like the black community) the transgender cause became the flavor of the month. Once this battle is won, it looks like normalizing pedophilia is in line as the next cause du jour.:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4o4GQ9CJA0E

So keep an eye on the Incel crowd. Once the pedo sickos are fully integrated into the fight, the incels would be the next logical, enraged, isolated street brawlers needed to beef up the ANTIFA thugs.

[NT'sGirl]

My daughter and I were discussing this a few months ago. As she is 20 and single she used dating apps and talks to a variety of people.

She said " This group is breeding faster then the 'Fem Nazis' ever thought to and they recruit in date sites befriending guys they think will fit with them."

She has run into a few at work and said they are the scariest guys she has ever met, they would come at her demand they talk to her and get out of control in minutes with the dejected hate speak.


She is a compassionate sweet girl and at first tried to be nice but, said there is no way to get past the wall they build in each other once a guy starts to commiserate with other guys about how women are evil and hate them.

I am so thankful that she has people in her work place that are there to help her because one in particular has been known to follow her around the store with the intent to stalk her. Even brought a friend once to discuss her while she was working. Making comments about how fake she was, and how could people be so stupid to believe she is just being nice. They were quietly escorted out by security.

It's terrifying as a mother to think what this guy would do if he caught her out of her circle.

[Abbey Marie]

I wouldn’t be surprised if the illegal monster who killed Mollie didn’t have similar feelings to these creeps. He probably felt he deserved to have her, and when she refused, he killed her in a rage.

[SassyLady]

The ‘respect yourself’ is an easier pill to swallow than ‘respect women’s choices’ and as such probably a better stepping stone to the desired outcome than would be offered by leftist thinkers.

If a person cannot respect themselves they probably have no idea how to respect someone else's choices.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

My daughter and I were discussing this a few months ago. As she is 20 and single she used dating apps and talks to a variety of people.

She said " This group is breeding faster then the 'Fem Nazis' ever thought to and they recruit in date sites befriending guys they think will fit with them."

She has run into a few at work and said they are the scariest guys she has ever met, they would come at her demand they talk to her and get out of control in minutes with the dejected hate speak.


She is a compassionate sweet girl and at first tried to be nice but, said there is no way to get past the wall they build in each other once a guy starts to commiserate with other guys about how women are evil and hate them.

I am so thankful that she has people in her work place that are there to help her because one in particular has been known to follow her around the store with the intent to stalk her. Even brought a friend once to discuss her while she was working. Making comments about how fake she was, and how could people be so stupid to believe she is just being nice. They were quietly escorted out by security.

It's terrifying as a mother to think what this guy would do if he caught her out of her circle.
Maaaaaan... that crap is even going on in Alaska.

[NT'sGirl]

Maaaaaan... that crap is even going on in Alaska.



I think we may have been storing them up here until the internet age...You can find some PRETTY WEIRD dudes hiding in the woods up here. Only now they have laptops and cellphones.

Used to be single guys with no social skills would just go move to a cabin in Talkeetna and for the most part just avoid human contact. With the communication era they have found more like minded people and it can be scary to meet your neighbors in some places.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

I think we may have been storing them up here until the internet age...You can find some PRETTY WEIRD dudes hiding in the woods up here. Only now they have laptops and cellphones.

Used to be single guys with no social skills would just go move to a cabin in Talkeetna and for the most part just avoid human contact. With the communication era they have found more like minded people and it can be scary to meet your neighbors in some places.
I have a good Harley Tech friend that I worked with at Reno HD that's from Anchorage. He's been moved back there for awhile now, and he's always got the women problem. He's not a bad looking guy, not afraid of work, but is a native Alaskan eskimo and when he drinks he has a tendency to get violent, hence his women problems. Most ladies I know don't like to get knocked around.

But isn't there like only one female to every ten males in Alaska or something like that? Pretty sad odds if you ask me, even worse than around here... :rolleyes:

[High_Plains_Drifter]

I wouldn’t be surprised if the illegal monster who killed Mollie didn’t have similar feelings to these creeps. He probably felt he deserved to have her, and when she refused, he killed her in a rage.
I think culture has a lot to do with it. I think where this little shit came from, stalking, raping and killing some girl that rejected you is something they think they could get away with. Law enforcement in their native environment is pathetic and people don't react the way they do here in America, and the perp is too stupid to figure out the difference, so they just do like they'd do from where they came from.

This is EXACTLY the kind of TRASH our president is trying to keep OUT of America, and this is EXACTLY the kind of TRASH that the DEMOCRATS are PROTECTING... I mean after all, Mollie is just "SOME GIRL FROM IOWA." According to democrats what we really should be concerned with is BABIES being RIPPED FROM THE ARMS OF THEIR MOTHERS... pfft... and being temporarily separated, not "SOME GIRL FROM IOWA" that was abducted, brutally tortured, raped and killed. We all need to just forget about "SOME GIRL FROM IOWA" because she's not IMPORTANT. According to DEMOCRATS, we need to be MORE concerned about CRIMINAL ILLEGAL ALIENS than the DEATH of an INNOCENT AMERICAN CITIZEN.

All for votes... the mongrel democrats will WHORE themselves out and pander to the most VILE HUMAN TRASH ON THE PLANET if it means VOTES.

[NT'sGirl]

I have a good Harley Tech friend that I worked with at Reno HD that's from Anchorage. He's been moved back there for awhile now, and he's always got the women problem. He's not a bad looking guy, not afraid of work, but is a native Alaskan eskimo and when he drinks he has a tendency to get violent, hench his women problems. Most ladies I know don't like to get knocked around.

But isn't there like only one female to every ten males in Alaska or something like that? Pretty sad odds if you ask me, even worse than around here... :rolleyes:


Native culture is part of the problem up here there is a lot of mental health issues not dealt with.

The ratio of men to women has really balanced out much more than it used to be.

[Elessar]

If you guys want to be truly worried for the future and depressed browse the big incel forum
https://incels.me/

These guys are fucked in the head

Just gleaning the thread topics in that shithole made my eyes bleed.

[NT'sGirl]

https://www.reddit.com/r/IncelTears/


One of thousands of pages its scary.

[Abbey Marie]

I think I’m starting to see where some former members got their misogynist tripe. So disturbing.