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jimnyc
04-28-2018, 10:13 AM
This will never happen. This wasn't going to ever happen from anyone, especially the liberal left. Everything could be perfect and they would declare it a disaster. Of course things aren't perfect, and I never expected as much. But many many promises have been kept, and even more positive things in my book.

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Time to admit that Trump is doing a good job

It's been drilled into everyone that "past performance is no guarantee of future results." That piece of wisdom is a double-edged sword. Most Trump critics, be they Democrats or NeverTumps, miss the second edge. However bad Trump's pre-election behavior is perceived to be, it has almost no value in evaluating the obvious success of his presidency.

Just as there are naïve investors who are incredulous when a surefire opportunity becomes a money-loser, there are pundits who, in their own minds, know that a person or a policy will lead to disaster. They are unable to grasp when reality makes their predictions worthless.

It is not a surprise that Trump was sexually active prior to his election. For some people – surprisingly, mostly on the left – that is a sign of our downfall as a civilization. They ask how they can explain it to their children. In the post-New Deal era, the following presidents have been sexually promiscuous while actually in high office: FDR, Kennedy, Johnson, and Clinton. There is no sense in which the Trump presidency is any less a model of propriety than that of either Bush or of Obama.

For people living in the past, Trump is a bigot for preventing all Muslims from entering the country. His actual policy is a ban on Muslims coming from five countries that contain 8% of the world Muslim population. When the decision is viewed in those terms, it is perfectly reasonable. What he said before the election is irrelevant.

During the campaign, Trump scared me and many other free-traders. He kept saying he was a free-trader but wanted to impose some tariffs to compensate for unfair trade practices and to motivate trading partners to respect American intellectual property. He argued that tariffs would not be permanently in place to stifle free trade. They would be negotiating tools to facilitate trade. Turns out he was right. In fairness to the laissez-faire crowd, free trade probably would eventually solve these problems. It is also true that eventually is a very long time.

Trump's negotiating style is the key to understanding his success. During the campaign, Trump-supporters continued to emphasize his business acumen. Many people found the claim absurd. I was certainly among them, but the group included highly successful investors like Mitt Romney. Trump's investment decisions were certainly erratic. My point was and is that no one should take investment advice from this guy.

Trump-supporters had the stronger case. Their man's specific business skill is as a marvelous negotiator. There is no doubt that he is ruthless and relentless in his willingness to leverage American power. America has desired outcomes all over the world. Trump has proven to be the best available agent to achieve those outcomes. Here are a few examples:

1. The already mentioned trade concessions from people previously all too happy to take advantage of previous administration weakness.

2. Getting our allies to carry a heavier load. Most NATO nations are now meeting their obligations for defense spending. Middle Eastern countries are moving more aggressively to counter terrorism and to stand against Iran.

3. Russia is no longer buzzing our planes and ships and otherwise testing our troops or our border.

4. North Korea has agreed to stop testing nuclear weapons and missiles. It has agreed to talks and to accept a peaceful end of the Korean War, rather than just the prevailing ceasefire. It is true that the North Korean nuclear test site may no longer be usable. For those who think that if Obama were still president, Kim Jong-un would not merely test above ground or even use aerial testing, I repeat my longstanding offer to sell some of my Florida orange groves. They are wonderfully green.

No one needs advice to understand the value of these achievements. It took Trump to make them a reality.

Trump moves in mysterious ways. Some of his moves are likely to fail, but some of even the oddest of them work. When he was still head of the CIA, Mike Pompeo made it clear that Trump's tweets affect our adversaries. Measurable favorable behavioral changes were observed by our intelligence community. Sometimes there is a method to apparent madness.

What can be criticized about this president's actual performance? There are criticisms of the tax cut. They are lame. With no modesty at all, I recommend this as an antidote. There are hopes and prayers among a dwindling number of partisans that the Mueller investigations will turn up wrongdoing of some sort. Let's just wait and see.

While we wait, it will add to the health of our republic if we judge our president by what he does as president rather than by what people predicted he would do or predict that he will do. There are people who call this approach being reality-based.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/04/time_to_admit_that_trump_is_doing_a_good_job.html

Kathianne
04-28-2018, 12:14 PM
That's pretty much how I've tried to deal with him. No, I don't have an orgasm every time he goes off on someone. I really think between him and predecessor, much harm has and will continue within and without.

With that though, the whole resistance and impeach is insane.

LongTermGuy
04-28-2018, 02:17 PM
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Gunny
04-28-2018, 02:34 PM
That's pretty much how I've tried to deal with him. No, I don't have an orgasm every time he goes off on someone. I really think between him and predecessor, much harm has and will continue within and without.

With that though, the whole resistance and impeach is insane.I love you kath but I can't come up with a smarmy quip to you and orgasm. I admit. You kicked my ass this time. My eyeballs are still roliing. I think of you as Mary Poppins.

And I'm warning anyone that doesn't have the right thing to say .. don't. Somebody turned the gunny switch on and it ain't off yet.

LongTermGuy
04-28-2018, 02:34 PM
....Easy to Tell which one is the Trump hater....always easy "giveaways..."...even In pic`s

https://www.glocktalk.com/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fpbs.twimg.com%2Fmedi a%2FDb1xXBJVwAAmwPZ.jpg&hash=5c9c51735000c75528a198e448da836d

Kathianne
04-28-2018, 03:14 PM
I love you kath but I can't come up with a smarmy quip to you and orgasm. I admit. You kicked my ass this time. My eyeballs are still roliing. I think of you as Mary Poppins.

And I'm warning anyone that doesn't have the right thing to say .. don't. Somebody turned the gunny switch on and it ain't off yet.
:laugh2::laugh2:

Gunny
04-28-2018, 03:18 PM
....Easy to Tell which one is the Trump hater....always easy "giveaways..."...even In pic`s

https://www.glocktalk.com/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fpbs.twimg.com%2Fmedi a%2FDb1xXBJVwAAmwPZ.jpg&hash=5c9c51735000c75528a198e448da836dSo disagreeing is hating. Way to act like your enemy.

Black Diamond
04-28-2018, 03:25 PM
....Easy to Tell which one is the Trump hater....always easy "giveaways..."...even In pic`s

https://www.glocktalk.com/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fpbs.twimg.com%2Fmedi a%2FDb1xXBJVwAAmwPZ.jpg&hash=5c9c51735000c75528a198e448da836d
All I see is a red X.

Gunny
04-28-2018, 03:31 PM
i could give a shit less about your hero. I give him props. The second I say stupid y'all have a hissy fit. So is that what it takes for some of you? "Duh, Trump". Wow. I remember spending the previous 8 years saying the same thing. Guess it's different now? My idot's okay you're sucks?

Don't fuck with me.

Black Diamond
04-28-2018, 03:57 PM
i could give a shit less about your hero. I give him props. The second I say stupid y'all have a hissy fit. So is that what it takes for some of you? "Duh, Trump". Wow. I remember spending the previous 8 years saying the same thing. Guess it's different now? My idot's okay you're sucks?

Don't fuck with me.
You ever hang out with fanboys of a certain sports team?

jimnyc
04-28-2018, 04:36 PM
i could give a shit less about your hero. I give him props. The second I say stupid y'all have a hissy fit. So is that what it takes for some of you? "Duh, Trump". Wow. I remember spending the previous 8 years saying the same thing. Guess it's different now? My idot's okay you're sucks?

Don't fuck with me.

Who's "y'all" and who had a fit where? I hear a lot of accusations over time about folks that support Trump, that it's their way or no way. I disagree and simply don't see it. If disagreeing and/or providing articles or whatever to support ones position is stepping on those that hate Trump at all costs, then label me guilty. But I see VERY few, if any, scolding and jumping on others simply for not supporting Trump. But I'm happy to listen or respond when such things are quoted, instead of used out of nowhere or at folks in general.

Outside of that, thanks to all for whooping it up laughing and ruining the thread before it had a chance to get started.

Black Diamond
04-28-2018, 04:39 PM
Who's "y'all" and who had a fit where? I hear a lot of accusations over time about folks that support Trump, that it's their way or no way. I disagree and simply don't see it. If disagreeing and/or providing articles or whatever to support ones position is stepping on those that hate Trump at all costs, then label me guilty. But I see VERY few, if any, scolding and jumping on others simply for not supporting Trump. But I'm happy to listen or respond when such things are quoted, instead of used out of nowhere or at folks in general.

Outside of that, thanks to all for whooping it up laughing and ruining the thread before it had a chance to get started.
I don't think we even know who long term guy was aiming at.

jimnyc
04-28-2018, 04:43 PM
I don't think we even know who long term guy was aiming at.

One post hardly covers any of it, I just can't stand having threads ruined before things can even be discussed. It's one thing when a thread has taken it's course, and another when it's page one.

Black Diamond
04-28-2018, 05:03 PM
One post hardly covers any of it, I just can't stand having threads ruined before things can even be discussed. It's one thing when a thread has taken it's course, and another when it's page one.
Can you see picture long term guy tried to post? Because I can't. So I can't comment on this specific thread. But I agree in general too many times people piss on trump threads because they aren't over him putting his foot their candidates ass.

Elessar
04-28-2018, 06:45 PM
Ya know?

Sometimes politics gets really, really boring.

I can almost anticipate how some will respond to a certain or specific topic.

Some folks need better writers to assist them - perhaps thinkers that do not wear blinders.

Drummond
04-29-2018, 08:21 AM
So disagreeing is hating. Way to act like your enemy.

That said, Trump's opposition is driven by hatred. To an incredible degree.

It's what characterises them. Hatred of Trump, of course. Hatred even of the system which put him where he is today, as obviously, if that weren't true, some degree of respect for that system would've restrained their actions and comments since. But there's been no restraint that I'm aware of.

The Left want Trump out. They'll stoop to anything to manage it. Be it rioting, smearing, incessant 'hatespeech' in various commentaries which goes WAY above normal conduct. No ... the Left hate Trump with enormous passion.

My belief ... there's another factor in play, too. The Left no doubt hoped that the American people were sufficiently aligned to their way of thinking to never have voted for Trump in the first place. However .. they did. Part of the Left's angst no doubt comes from a realisation of just how much more they still have to do to capture the hearts and minds of American voters.

Drummond
04-29-2018, 08:23 AM
All I see is a red X.

The pics are clear on my screen.

Trouble is, what with me being British .. I've no idea who either of these people are !