Totally Out Of Frickin' Hand...

[High_Plains_Drifter]

I've had it. I have moved away from Wisconsin before because I was SICK AND TIRED OF WINTER. Well, for one reason or another I always move back, and it doesn't take long before I'm wondering what in the hell did I do that for? It is true that you can buy homes and property for practically pennies on the dollar here compared to the majority of America elsewhere, but there comes a point where you have to ask yourself, IS... IT... WORTH IT? I'm there... AGAIN... when I look outside and THIS is what I see, my day is RUINED. It depresses me beyond words. The AVERAGE high for this time of year here is 56 DEGREES!!! Does THIS look like 56 DEGREES to you? NO, me neither. It's 24 degrees and looks like fucking JANUARY.

https://image.ibb.co/e26Prn/20180415_082030.jpg

I don't know what's going on, but I really DO believe people are screwing with the weather. Trying to make it rain more in drought areas and what not, "salting clouds," but it's taking longer and longer each year for WINTER to GO AWAY up north here. "Global warming," BULL SHIT. It isn't NATURAL. By now we've usually had an EIGHTY DEGREE DAY, but this year we haven't even hit fucking SIXTY yet. This, I believe, is the COLDEST April in Wisconsin's HISTORY to this point. I'm so sick of winter and cold I could VOMIT. I truly do HATE winter. The ONLY reason I am here is because of FAMILY. My 89 year old mother. If she was gone, I would be making plans to move back down south AS WE SPEAK.

I've had it. I will at LEAST be moving, buy a nice sized camper trailer, WAY up on the priority list. If I don't move back down south, I'm at least going to start spending winter months down there, starting THIS YEAR.

[LongTermGuy]

I've had it. I have moved away from Wisconsin before because I was SICK AND TIRED OF WINTER. Well, for one reason or another I always move back, and it doesn't take long before I'm wondering what in the hell did I do that for? It is true that you can buy homes and property for practically pennies on the dollar here compared to the majority of America elsewhere, but there comes a point where you have to ask yourself, IS... IT... WORTH IT? I'm there... AGAIN... when I look outside and THIS is what I see, my day is RUINED. It depresses me beyond words. The AVERAGE high for this time of year here is 56 DEGREES!!! Does THIS look like 56 DEGREES to you? NO, me neither. It's 24 degrees and looks like fucking JANUARY.

https://image.ibb.co/e26Prn/20180415_082030.jpg

I don't know what's going on, but I really DO believe people are screwing with the weather. Trying to make it rain more in drought areas and what not, "salting clouds," but it's taking longer and longer each year for WINTER to GO AWAY up north here. "Global warming," BULL SHIT. It isn't NATURAL. By now we've usually had an EIGHTY DEGREE DAY, but this year we haven't even hit fucking SIXTY yet. This, I believe, is the COLDEST April in Wisconsin's HISTORY to this point. I'm so sick of winter and cold I could VOMIT. I truly do HATE winter. The ONLY reason I am here is because of FAMILY. My 89 year old mother. If she was gone, I would be making plans to move back down south AS WE SPEAK.

I've had it. I will at LEAST be moving, buy a nice sized camper trailer, WAY up on the priority list. If I don't move back down south, I'm at least going to start spending winter months down there, starting THIS YEAR.


https://media.giphy.com/media/3otPotnGlA5FSF2fKw/giphy.gif

[High_Plains_Drifter]

Planning a trip down south right now. I've had it... done... can't take anymore of this shit.

Going to talk to some realtors and check prices. I'm sure I if I sell out lock, stock 'n barrel I can come up with a pretty penny for a new home.

[pete311]

haha I feel your pain WI brother. I want to start gardening.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

haha I feel your pain WI brother. I want to start gardening.
Is it just me, or is winter hanging on longer and longer every year?

I can tell because I have about half an acre of Black Walnut trees, and they don't produce nuts unless it's a normal spring. Out of the 8 years I've owned this place I've only seen walnuts twice, and that's because of winter hanging on for so long. Only saw Morel mushrooms twice as well, same reason. It has to be warm and get rain. Would love to see more of those since they sell for $30 a pound.

[Abbey Marie]

Don't let it get you down, summer is coming very soon.

We just had two days in the 80s here in Delaware, now we are back down to the low 40s. No snow. Unlike you, I am thrilled that it got cooler again.

I hate heat and all the people that summer brings outdoors. It's like a cosmic rock turns over, and all the roaches crawl out!

[FakeNewsSux]

I feel your pain HPD. I was born and raised on the shores of Lake Michigan an hour north of Milwaukee. Saw too many white Halloweens and white Easters for my taste and moved to the ATL in 1982. I admit it wasn't specifically because of the weather rather the wisdom of Jimmy Carter and his 'malaise days'. Just couldn't find work up north after graduating from the UW. I just took this picture off my front porch. Rainy day in the 60's and the dogwoods and azaleas are past their prime but still nicer to look at than a foot of snow. It was close to eighty degrees yesterday and I've been wearing shorts and tee shirts to work for a couple of weeks now.

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[pete311]

Is it just me, or is winter hanging on longer and longer every year?

I can tell because I have about half an acre of Black Walnut trees, and they don't produce nuts unless it's a normal spring. Out of the 8 years I've owned this place I've only seen walnuts twice, and that's because of winter hanging on for so long. Only saw Morel mushrooms twice as well, same reason. It has to be warm and get rain. Would love to see more of those since they sell for $30 a pound.

Last few falls were really nice and long. Guess it evens out with terrible springs.

[FakeNewsSux]

My son and his family as well as the majority of my family still live up and down the eastern half of Wisconsin. My son sent me this pic from Wausau this morning. I guess the nice thing about spring snow is that you can clear the walk in your shorts. What level of sunscreen spf to you use for reflection off of snow?

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[High_Plains_Drifter]

Last few falls were really nice and long. Guess it evens out with terrible springs.
You see, Pete, I will talk to you like any other person cordially, just so long as that's the way they talk to me.

I'm sure there's lots of stories you have to tell that people would be interested in, so why don't you try and engage folks here on a more personal level, and leave the politics out of it?

You might make a friend... maybe not... worth a try... aye?

[Elessar]

One forum member who lives in Minnesota had 16 inches on the ground as of ~1700 Central
Time yesterday with more falling!

Sheesh! All we got was rain!

[Black Diamond]

Mid april and three inches of snow and slush. Wish I was in Texas.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

My son and his family as well as the majority of my family still live up and down the eastern half of Wisconsin. My son sent me this pic from Wausau this morning. I guess the nice thing about spring snow is that you can clear the walk in your shorts. What level of sunscreen spf to you use for reflection off of snow?

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Jt4yhnPv9is3yxPpCSWQkq83LGEcrJZXrz9tA6wguuJyp1nSgE 77VKZP8c5txG92EBKYqNp7lTewwRBouTY-oXqlMRUMFdh0fXfdQh8UtD_5xidABomO8Qwm4LH5wnx0XWpZcm JfFK13OVeMlyYMIlD4rAm7kMEyNIPMTy86ihh7RFQ52Xr-MAiBU9jKYmIJn-qdwIjf05hxxlu4jJqhLVZOX_KIhZkYyDTGwbGLKFrk6snrFCm7 RNqolCDOMta43ztgYcIt1IhxwU5q0RobnaO7VsoLJXfg_YNnaJ AyTtEmOWvsF38ZVCrM9LedYCeVAa7rDFplzfRlweuz1S22Wf1s 9LPH8C5a3BXk1NUBeekOGoYp3OWKqVaonoW2jDGYgpbVI7f0E0 8uLoZcMCVjzKh6OQdj2ILUVJdAAdjVt5yteKd3uIlnCkUGXWnA 6T2uBkEdW1bsURWj2H9OHCSmzkV5LHRDpVAUtseDnwkBmMPSr2 91OnihaqdaIWM7nqVOzaAf3fs1K4KfafPjK0ijNO0HA6liIoxZ 959xxd43CbDw6Rh0zQmb_RLw9aui9g0fXBYN-5qLIPP2yJi0RptxCt5sK1440S1W23wGPUs=s480-no FakeNewsSux ... IDK how you're trying to display a pic on the board, but this is all I see...


https://image.ibb.co/mwrgnS/pic.jpg

[High_Plains_Drifter]

Mid april and three inches of snow and slush. Wish I was in Texas.
Got a nephew, niece and ex BIL in Tampa. Been talking with them pretty much all day.

I even talked to a person that has a nice looking camper trailer with a slide out on this lot downtown. Since it's basically a garage station/car lot I asked if they would be interested in a trade for a Harley. Pretty much going to blow that off though because the person I talked to sounded like an utter MORON.

But MOVING is CERTAINLY on the agenda now. I'm so sick of PERPETUAL WINTER in Wisconsin I could VOMIT.

[Black Diamond]

Got a nephew, niece and ex BIL in Tampa. Been talking with them pretty much all day.

I even talked a person that has a nice looking camper trailer with a slide out on this lot downtown. Since it's basically a garage station/car lot I asked if they would be interested in a trade for a Harley. Pretty much going to blow that off though because the person I talked to sounded like an utter MORON.

But MOVING is CERTAINLY on the agenda now. I'm so sick of PERPETUAL WINTER in Wisconsin I could VOMIT.
Across the pond is the same or worse. I am guessing we will end up in Tampa Bay Area. Wife loves the water and the beach.

[gabosaurus]

Interesting that you post this. Our 18 year old niece, who lives in the Minneapolis suburb of Edina, wrote my husband earlier about it being 25 degrees and blowing snow, producing blizzard conditions and a wind chill temp of 9. The gist of it was "It's freaking APRIL 15! Why is there a freaking blizzard outside. Where is spring?"
My guess is that she is counting the days until August, when she moves down here to attend the music school at Loyola Marymount. Southern California does not have extended winters like Minnesota. :laugh:

[pete311]

Just got back from shoveling the drive way. Holy hell that was some wet heavy snow. My back is fucked.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

Across the pond is the same or worse. I am guessing we will end up in Tampa Bay Area. Wife loves the water and the beach.
I lived in Tampa while in the AF from early '84 to late '87 when I got out. It's the only place in America that I know I could settle down and enjoy myself. I really did enjoy the beach. I spent so much time at Gandy Beach by Tampa it was my second home, and that was just the bay. Over at St. Pete and Clearwater on the gulf coast, the beaches are absolutely to die for, beautiful sand, warm water, just awesome. I could do that again in a heart beat, considering my option is stay here in WI and live in PERPETUAL WINTER and SHIT COLD. I'm SICK OF THIS... gotta make a change... again.

I mean... I have a retired military ID... I could even go on base at MacDill to the commissary or a bunch of other places. There are no military bases anywhere near me now. I'd love to see MacDill again. Just one more benefit of getting the fuck otta here.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

Interesting that you post this. Our 18 year old niece, who lives in the Minneapolis suburb of Edina, wrote my husband earlier about it being 25 degrees and blowing snow, producing blizzard conditions and a wind chill temp of 9. The gist of it was "It's freaking APRIL 15! Why is there a freaking blizzard outside. Where is spring?"
My guess is that she is counting the days until August, when she moves down here to attend the music school at Loyola Marymount. Southern California does not have extended winters like Minnesota. :laugh:
I know where you're coming from, but CA isn't even on the map. When a tiny little house like 800 square feet in a shit neighborhood costs $750,000... no thank you.

[Abbey Marie]

Got a nephew, niece and ex BIL in Tampa. Been talking with them pretty much all day.

I even talked to a person that has a nice looking camper trailer with a slide out on this lot downtown. Since it's basically a garage station/car lot I asked if they would be interested in a trade for a Harley. Pretty much going to blow that off though because the person I talked to sounded like an utter MORON.

But MOVING is CERTAINLY on the agenda now. I'm so sick of PERPETUAL WINTER in Wisconsin I could VOMIT.


But, your garage/workshop is so nice!

[High_Plains_Drifter]

Just got back from shoveling the drive way. Holy hell that was some wet heavy snow. My back is fucked.
I already took the snowblower off my John Deere. I'll drive over whatever snow there is... fuck it. My truck is 4 wheel drive. I'm done with it. I won't do this again.

[SassyLady]

I lived in Tampa while in the AF from early '84 to late '87 when I got out. It's the only place in America that I know I could settle down and enjoy myself. I really did enjoy the beach. I spent so much time at Gandy Beach by Tampa it was my second home, and that was just the bay. Over at St. Pete and Clearwater on the gulf coast, the beaches are absolutely to die for, beautiful sand, warm water, just awesome. I could do that again in a heart beat, considering my option is stay here in WI and live in PERPETUAL WINTER and SHIT COLD. I'm SICK OF THIS... gotta make a change... again.

I mean... I have a retired military ID... I could even go on base at MacDill to the commissary or a bunch of other places. There are no military bases anywhere near me now. I'd love to see MacDill again. Just one more benefit of getting the fuck otta here.

Come to Tucson. Airbase here and very rarely snows.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

But, your garage/workshop is so nice!
True, and I just put $9,000 in renovations in it, but far as I'm concerned that's just equity. I'll get it back when I sell the joint. There's other places with nice shops.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

Come to Tucson. Airbase here and very rarely snows.
I lived in Phoenix... Apache Junction, then moved up to Deer Valley to go to MMI. I'm not a desert person. I like to be around water and green.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

Kinka odd to say but, I'm not a "west" person. I like the eastern half of America better. I lived more time in NV than any other state other than WI. It's my home away from home, but it was an adventure, I'd never move back there again either. Florida is the only other state I've lived in where I know I could fit right back into the flow, and be around some family and friends.

[SassyLady]

Kinka odd to say but, I'm not a "west" person. I like the eastern half of American better. I lived more time in NV than any other state other than WI. It's my home away from home, but it was an adventure, I'd never move back there again either. Florida is the only other state I've lived in where I know I could fit right back into the flow, and be around some family and friends.

No ice storms, no tornados, no earthquakes. ..... and 30 minutes from Tucson you are in pine forests if you want green. And housing is cheaper.

[Abbey Marie]

We all need to move to the mountains in North Carolina. Freedom, fresh air, beautiful views, and most of all, privacy.

[Black Diamond]

We all need to move to the mountains in North Carolina. Freedom, fresh air, beautiful views, and most of all, privacy.
Smoky mountains ?

[High_Plains_Drifter]

No ice storms, no tornados, no earthquakes. ..... and 30 minutes from Tucson you are in pine forests if you want green. And housing is cheaper.
Thank you, Sassy... but... no... I used to truck out of Tucson for DSW... Digby Southwest, and I hated it. Really, I can't stand the desert. Everything burnt, just dirt, no green, just hot and dry, can't do it.

One time I was throwing a cast net off the pier at Fort De Soto, FL... and I brought up this huge bunch of little fish they call "shiners," and the pelicans came right up to me, inches away, and I threw fish into their mouth, it was so cool, I loved it. Can't do that in the desert. I love water, and the Gulf of Mexico on FL west side is awesome.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

We all need to move to the mountains in North Carolina. Freedom, fresh air, beautiful views, and most of all, privacy.
NC is on the ocean... that's doable... anything near water.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

Smoky mountains ?
No family there.

The benefit of FL is family there and it's old stomping grounds... and I love the beaches and ocean. Would HAVE to buy a BOAT.

[Black Diamond]

NC is on the ocean... that's doable... anything near water.
Yeah but the mountains are a long way from the ocean

[Abbey Marie]

Smoky mountains ?

I would need to see in person. Don't the Blue Ridge mountains go through there too?

[Black Diamond]

I would need to see in person. Don't the Blue Ridge mountains go through there too?
Smoky mountain national park is in Tennessee and north Carolina. Probably six hours from the ocean. Blue ridge mountains I know are in Virginia. Not sure if they go into North Carolina

[High_Plains_Drifter]

Yeah but the mountains are a long way from the ocean
Mountains usually mean earth quakes... or at least they do out west.

Was in some earth quakes in Reno and that was the worst thing I've ever been through. They can have them... FUCK THAT.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

Clearwater Beach, FL... doesn't get much better than this...

https://image.ibb.co/fMxMnS/cl.jpg

[SassyLady]

Clearwater Beach, FL... doesn't get much better than this...

https://image.ibb.co/fMxMnS/cl.jpg

Hurricanes!

[High_Plains_Drifter]

Me... 33 years old... Gandy Beach, FL...

[High_Plains_Drifter]

Hurricanes!
Was in hurricane Elena while in Tampa... I'd much rather go through that than a tornado in WI.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/pmf,pf_pt/house_type/46344380_zpid/100000-250000_price/394-986_mp/43560-_lot/pricea_sort/28.670106,-81.99646,27.630007,-83.472748_rect/9_zm/3_p/

[High_Plains_Drifter]

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/pmf,pf_pt/house_type/80785112_zpid/100000-250000_price/394-986_mp/43560-_lot/pricea_sort/28.670106,-81.99646,27.630007,-83.472748_rect/9_zm/3_p/

[High_Plains_Drifter]

Damn... this is nice...

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/pmf,pf_pt/house_type/46335753_zpid/100000-250000_price/394-986_mp/43560-_lot/pricea_sort/28.670106,-81.99646,27.630007,-83.472748_rect/9_zm/3_p/

[High_Plains_Drifter]

Wow... https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/pmf,pf_pt/house_type/44789314_zpid/100000-250000_price/394-986_mp/43560-_lot/pricea_sort/28.670106,-81.99646,27.630007,-83.472748_rect/9_zm/4_p/

[FakeNewsSux]

"Originally posted by HighPlainsDrifter
@FakeNewsSux (http://www.debatepolicy.com/member.php?u=3879) ... IDK how you're trying to display a pic on the board, but this is all I see...


https://image.ibb.co/mwrgnS/pic.jpg

Thanks for the heads up HPD. All I'm doing is right clicking on my pics and selecting copy image and pasting them in the reply box. Is everyone else seeing the same thing? When I post it, the pics come up fine. Is there a preferred way to post pics? I tried the insert image icon above but couldn't get it to work.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

Thanks for the heads up HPD. All I'm doing is right clicking on my pics and selecting copy image and pasting them in the reply box. Is everyone else seeing the same thing? When I post it, the pics come up fine. Is there a preferred way to post pics? I tried the insert image icon above but couldn't get it to work.
Yeah that won't work, pard. The board works on HTML, you need a link. You need to either use the image hosting here on this site or an off site image hosting website that gives you a link.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

Thanks for the heads up HPD. All I'm doing is right clicking on my pics and selecting copy image and pasting them in the reply box. Is everyone else seeing the same thing? When I post it, the pics come up fine. Is there a preferred way to post pics? I tried the insert image icon above but couldn't get it to work.
Yeah that won't work, pard. The board works on HTML - Hypertext Markup Language - you need a link. You need to either use the image hosting here on this site or an off site image hosting website that gives you a link.

You can click on the image icon in the menu above the message window...https://image.ibb.co/n8ZvE7/pic5.jpg... and it will ask you to upload a picture from your computer. That's the easiest way other than using another image hosting website that will give you a link.

[FakeNewsSux]

This is a test pic to see if I uploaded it correctly. This is my nephew in Green Bay. They have 23.5 inches on the ground with more on the way tomorrow and Wednesday

http://www.debatepolicy.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=11368&stc=1

[High_Plains_Drifter]

This is a test pic to see if I uploaded it correctly. This is my nephew in Green Bay. They have 23.5 inches on the ground with more on the way tomorrow and Wednesday

http://www.debatepolicy.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=11368&stc=1
You got it now! GOOD GOING!!

And this is reason right here why I've been talking to people down south and making plans to get the HELL OTTA WISCONSIN ALL DAY.

[gabosaurus]

I know where you're coming from, but CA isn't even on the map. When a tiny little house like 800 square feet in a shit neighborhood costs $750,000... no thank you.

You are talking about the Bay Area. I live in Huntington Beach, an upscale community in Orange County. We have a three bedroom home that is much more than 800 sf for around $900,000. Nice neighborhood, excellent schools.
I am quite happy to live in a more expensive area to avoid having seven months of winter. My preference would be no months of winter. :cool:

[High_Plains_Drifter]

You are talking about the Bay Area. I live in Huntington Beach, an upscale community in Orange County. We have a three bedroom home that is much more than 800 sf for around $900,000. Nice neighborhood, excellent schools.
I am quite happy to live in a more expensive area to avoid having seven months of winter. My preference would be no months of winter. :cool:
Good God... $900,000.00.... are you SHTTING me... if I sell out I'll have about $250,000 tops to spend, and in suburban Florida that will buy one hellova a nice home.

Cal is just absolutely in outer space as far as home prices. Pretty much the same thing in Montana where my sister lives. They bought their house as a fixer upper almost 45 years ago for a tad over $20G, and now it's on the Montana registrar of historic homes and it's worth almost a million. The land value in Montana has sky rocketed BECAUSE of all the people selling out in CA and moving there. Problem is, they either buy or build, and when they build they build huge mansions and then decide they don't like Montana winters and want to leave, so there's this gluten of huge mansions in Montana for sale, million plus, and it just fucks up the land prices for everyone else.

My home here, I have an acre and a half, a three bay, two story shop, heated, renovated, and a small house, paid $79,500 for it, but this property in Reno where I came from would be worth $350,000 easy. A bare acre with no road, power, water, septic, nothing, just land, in Reno goes for $125,000.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Exactly why I have never ever thought of living up North.. Winter is the season that I truly loathe.
Southern born and bred, live in winter conditions near year round, rather be dead.
Was bad enough being raised in Northeast Arkansas as a kid, in the 50's, 60's and 70's.
Something in my nature, my genes, tells me that cold weather, heavy/snow/blizzards are an abomination.- ;)
Moving farther South, even down to Florida is a great plan, my sister moved to Florida last year.
She always hated the cold too. --Tyr

[Elessar]

No ice storms, no tornados, no earthquakes. ..... and 30 minutes from Tucson you are in pine forests if you want green. And housing is cheaper.

I remember a Boy Scout camp on Mt. Lemon. That is where I saw my first mountain lion in the wild.
Then one year we camped in the White Mountains...real rough camping with all the cooking over an open fire,
but great trout fishing.

[pizza_pablo]

Hurricanes!

Yes, but they are not surprises, like tornadoes or earthquakes. Plenty of heads up, to decide whether or not one needs to seek higher ground.

I've not spent much time on Florida's southwest coast, but plenty time on the Gulf in Florida panhandle. I LOVE IT!
We were stationed in Jacksonville, Florida for 11 years. We loved it!
I keep trying the wife that wet should move to southwest Florida. About ten more years in the PNW and hopefully after real retirement, we'll get to move to Florida or Texas.

I worked with a guy, in the Navy, in Connecticut. He was from Ohio. He absolutely hated snow. He was getting out of the Navy. When asked where he was moving to, he said, "I don't know. I'm going to tie a snow shovel to the front of our van and drive south. When someone says, 'WTF is that?' I'll know that I've gone far enough."
I always loved that answer!

[Abbey Marie]

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I'm thinking high humidity all the time, alligators, and huge bugs.

But you seem determined. :cool:

[High_Plains_Drifter]

I'm thinking high humidity all the time, alligators, and huge bugs.

But you seem determined. :cool:
That's true... the humidity can be stifling, and since it never freezes, the bugs are gargantuan, the biggest spiders I've ever seen in my life, and fleas and cock roaches are a real problem. Never heard of 'gators being a problem around Tampa, but I know you have to keep your eyes peeled in other places in the state.

I've been giving this a LOT of thought, about ALL things I have here that I wouldn't have in Florida. Here in Wisconsin I have 250,000 acres of DNR land to go play in that's just a couple miles from me, and there's millions more all over the state. I have friends that own 500 and 600+ plus acre farms I can go hunt or shooting on, and that DNR land is going to open up to ATV's and UTV's. That's one of the cool things about Wisconsin, there's a lot of land. I have no idea where I'd ever go shoot my guns in Florida, and I hate ranges. I don't like being around a lot of other people shooting guns that I don't know. Having LAND to go play or shooting on is a big deal in my book. Another thing is, I have friends here that I have known for 30+ years. They're old, dear friends. I used to bartend here at a bunch of different places way back in the day, so I got to know a lot of people, and in small town Wisconsin, you just get to know a lot of people, I don't know if that means anything to anyone else, but that means a lot to me. I like having old friends that I know I can trust under any circumstances. Starting all over making new friends seems like a daunting task at my age, since I don't really trust anyone I don't know.

So... after sleeping on it and much thought, I think the best thing for me to do is go back to my plan to buy a nice trailer, one with a bathroom and small washer and dryer, and just go down south each winter for a few months. And if in doing that at some point I decide that I would like to just live down there, then move.

One way or another, my days of spending winter in Wisconsin are going to come to an end.

[Abbey Marie]

That's true... the humidity can be stifling, and since it never freezes, the bugs are gargantuan, the biggest spiders I've ever seen in my life, and fleas and cock roaches are a real problem. Never heard of 'gators being a problem around Tampa, but I know you have to keep your eyes peeled in other places in the state.

I've been giving this a LOT of thought, about ALL things I have here that I wouldn't have in Florida. Here in Wisconsin I have 250,000 acres of DNR land to go play in that's just a couple miles from me, and there's millions more all over the state. I have friends that own 500 and 600+ plus acre farms I can go hunt or shooting on, and that DNR land is going to open up to ATV's and UTV's. That's one of the cool things about Wisconsin, there's a lot of land. I have no idea where I'd ever go shoot my guns in Florida, and I hate ranges. I don't like being around a lot of other people shooting guns that I don't know. Having LAND to go play or shooting on is a big deal in my book. Another thing is, I have friends here that I have known for 30+ years. They're old, dear friends. I used to bartend here at a bunch of different places way back in the day, so I got to know a lot of people, and in small town Wisconsin, you just get to know a lot of people, I don't know if that means anything to anyone else, but that means a lot to me. I like having old friends that I know I can trust under any circumstances. Starting all over making new friends seems like a daunting task at my age, since I don't really trust anyone I don't know.

So... after sleeping on it and much thought, I think the best thing for me to do is go back to my plan to buy a nice trailer, one with a bathroom and small washer and dryer, and just go down south each winter for a few months. And if in doing that at some point I decide that I would like to just live down there, then move.

One way or another, my days of spending winter in Wisconsin are going to come to an end.

Now that sounds like a plan, T. And you can then go on adventures anywhere you want.

[mundame]

It's probably all that Global Warming.

I saw on TV you all had a little snow up that way, too, 10-12 inches. I bet that squashed the daffodils.

[Abbey Marie]

I have a strong preference for:
4 distinct seasons
Lots of trees
Proximity to the ocean
Not many bugs
But most of all...

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