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Gunny
02-07-2018, 02:52 PM
@ polite russian this is the song I was speaking of. I'd like to know what it is about.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxRFSsJrD1A

Polite Russian
02-07-2018, 03:31 PM
Damn, I don't know Ukrainian :D It looks similar to Russian, but there are some differences.
But I found Russian translation :)
In English it will be something like that:

Duckling swimming through the Tisa
Duckling swimming through the Tisa(it's a river, as I understand)
Mom, do not scold me
Mom, do not scold me

Oh, remember at the dark time
remember at the dark time
I don't know, where I'll die
I don't know, where I'll die

Oh, I'll be killed in foreign land
I'll be killed in foreign land
Who will bury me
Who will bury me

Oh, alien people will bury me
alien people will bury me
Or you won't sorry, mama?
Or you won't sorry, mama?

Oh, son, how can't I be sorry?
Son, how can't I be sorry?
You were lying on my heart
You were lying on my heart

Oh, ducks are swimming through the Tisa
ducks are swimming through the Tisa.



And wikipedia says, that guys from Ukrainian Insurgent Army (guys, who used to fight for Hitler, killed a lot of civilians, made that "Massacres of Poles in Volhynia and Eastern Galicia" thing and a lot of other good things nazi, that nazis used to like) used that song.

Gunny
02-07-2018, 04:27 PM
I guess it kind of makes sense. So this was a pro-Nazi song? I wonder if it has a different meaning now. The lyrics could mean anything. It sounds like a military song. I just cannot see anyone paying respect to a Nazi song. I thought Ukraine was mostly Russian.

From what I can see, it was in the center of the fighting on the Eastern Front during World War II and there were some pro-Nazi groups in the western part.

We don't have martial songs like Europe does. Or did. Not like we see the Germans sing in history films. We have a service song for each branch of service, the US National Anthem, and some marching songs mostly complaining about the military food, the weather and life in the military. No "beer hall" songs where everyone sings along. We are too busy drinking :)

Polite Russian
02-08-2018, 11:55 AM
I can make a thread about russian marshes of White Guard army (One, non-communist side in Russian Civil War 1917-1922). I think they are good.
I can search for Red's songs, but I hate commies, so I don't wanna do that :)

Gunny
02-08-2018, 12:18 PM
I can make a thread about russian marshes of White Guard army (One, non-communist side in Russian Civil War 1917-1922). I think they are good.
I can search for Red's songs, but I hate commies, so I don't wanna do that :)You can make a thread about whatever you want within the board rules. Just remember who posts here and don't post anything you wouldn't want to come back on you where you are. Other people read what you post. I'd say they're mostly trying to figure you out.

Polite Russian
02-08-2018, 01:36 PM
You can make a thread about whatever you want within the board rules. Just remember who posts here and don't post anything you wouldn't want to come back on you where you are. Other people read what you post. I'd say they're mostly trying to figure you out.


Hahah, don't warry, you CAN criticize communism here. Even some of our government dudes doing this sometimes. :D

And I know, that I can a thread about whatever :D, but I mean if someone is interested in that theme, I can do it.

Gunny
02-08-2018, 05:25 PM
Hahah, don't warry, you CAN criticize communism here. Even some of our government dudes doing this sometimes. :D

And I know, that I can a thread about whatever :D, but I mean if someone is interested in that theme, I can do it.Best way to find out: Post it and see if anyone is interested. If they're not, they'll just move along to the next thread.

What's hard to figure about things like songs when it is yours as opposed to ours is trying to understand the culture behind them. I can read and/or listen to your songs, but other than having lived in Europe twice as a kid I have no real reference point. I like trying to figure it out. Can't speak for anyone else.

For instance, the song above. It's obviously sad and well-known. It means something about an event or a time. I'm judging solely by the reaction of the people. It's also strange to see people react with emotions when you have been taught they have none.