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reedak
01-29-2018, 01:03 AM
1. Despite fabrications, lies and deceptions in its propaganda, North Korea does tell the truth at times. North Korea has said umpteen times that its nuclear programs are non-negotiable.

(a) For instance, North Korean Foreign Minister Ri Yong-ho told Russia's TASS news agency on 11 October 2017: "Our principal position is that we will never agree to any talks in which our nuclear weapons will be the subject of negotiations." ( http://iran-daily.com/News/202243.html )

(b) In a statement released by North Korea’s Korean Central News Agency on 24 December 2017, the rogue regime's foreign ministry said: “If the U.S. wishes to live safely, it must abandon its hostile policy towards the DPRK and learn to co-exist with the country that has nuclear weapons and should wake up from its pipe dream of our country giving up nuclear weapons which we have developed and completed through all kinds of hardships.” ( http://www.ibtimes.com/north-korea-says-giving-nuclear-weapons-pipe-dream-2632838 )

2. In my political satire at http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?61699-Political-Satire-The-Old-Man-of-the-Mountain-(10)
the priest thought to himself after listening to the woman's sad story: "A liar does utter a word of truth sometimes. Dreamers and fools choose not to believe in a liar when he tells the truth but believe in him when he utters an untruth."

Similarly, although North Korea has said many times that its nuclear programs are non-negotiable, a sizeable proportion of the population in South Korea still turn a blind eye to the rogue state's disarming frankness. There is no shortage of South Korean politicians who claim to be in favour of denuclearising the North, but so far only paying lip service to the idea. It is understandable why they are trying their best not to infuriate the belligerent rogue state because South Korea will be the main battlefield if the North launches an attack. Thousands of North Korean artillery pieces, which stand ready around 30 miles away from Seoul, could inflict immeasurable damage and suffering on the city of 10 million people.

Despite this military advantage, North Korea continues to pour its efforts and resources into developing nuclear capabilities so as to achieve its goal of subduing the South with coercion, threats and nuclear blackmail. Several decades later, North Korea will have a formidable nuclear arsenal. Then it won't be surprising that the majority of South Koreans will choose to wave the white flag rather than perish in "a sea of fire" when North Korean tanks roll southward across the border. Hence when North Korea offered to send a delegation to the Winter Olympics in January, the South was quick to accept the rare overture. However, when South Korea raised the issue of denuclearisation, the North threatened to withdraw the olive branch.

According to https://m.cnn.com/en/article/h_57358196c58af86704335b59cf17224b
when the two Koreas met face-to-face for the first time in two years to hammer out details on how the secluded communist nation can take part in the Games in Pyeongchang, North Korea refused to put its nuclear weapons on the table. Ahead of the talks, an article in North Korea's state-run Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) accused South Korea of using the Olympic Games talks to pave the way to negotiations on North Korea's weapons programs. "This fact that South Korea is trying so hard to achieve our participation of the winter games clearly reveals their wicked intent of leading us into giving up nuclear weapons," KCNA said. "South Korea should carefully consider how their ill-mannered behaviors can bring shameful results."

3. According to http://www.intellasia.net/ex-spy-for-kim-jong-un-says-n-korea-will-use-olympics-as-a-weapon-648582

(Begin excerpts)
...Kim Hyon-hui is a mass murderer, a former spy for North Korea who blew up a passenger jet in 1987 on orders from Kim Jong Un’s father...

And with the Olympics returning to South Korea in just over two weeks in PyeongChang, she’s warning the world not to trust Kim Jong Un. She sees dark motives behind his decision to send athletes to the Winter Olympics.

According to Kim Hyon-hui, the regime hopes to try to separate South Korea from its ally, the United States, and eventually to reunify the Korean Peninsula under Communist rule.

“North Korea is using the Olympics as a weapon,” Kim Hyon-hui said. “It’s trying to escape the sanctions by holding hands with South Korea, trying to break free from international isolation.”

She described the joint Korean Olympic team as “a publicity stunt for Kim Jong Un....

However, Kim Hyon-hui believes the country’s eventual goal is to get rid of American troops from the Korean Peninsula and predicted “North Korea will start its provocations again” in the months following the Olympics.

She added: “North Korea won’t give up its nuclear weapons. They’re its lifeline.” (End excerpts)

4. I agree with Kim Hyon-hui that North Korea is "trying to escape the sanctions by holding hands with South Korea, trying to break free from international isolation”.

Regarding the $500m, mostly from Hyundai, that had preceded his warm welcome in Pyongyang, Kim Dae-jung, Ex-President of South Korea (25 February 1998 – 25 February 2003), responded typically: “A rich brother should not visit a poor brother empty-handed.” ( http://www.economist.com/node/14302282 )

Hard-pressed by US-led sanctions, the poor brother has become poorer than before. Once again the poor brother is waiting with outstretched hands for his rich brother's visit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Dae-jung

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/31/world/asia/north-korea-kim-jong-un-olympics.html

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy-defence/article/2126731/north-koreas-overtures-welcomed-china-us-sceptical

https://www.yahoo.com/news/olive-branch-booby-trap-n-koreas-tone-divides-072803979.html

darin
01-29-2018, 01:25 AM
we are shaking in our boots...


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4449754/US-military-expert-says-North-Korea-parade-arms-FAKE.html

Patent-leather "glove things"....Juvenile camo paint...walmart $2 sunglasses...
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/04/27/05/3FA3FE3100000578-4449754-Images_from_an_April_15_military_parade_in_Pyongya ng_show_what_a-a-6_1493265754028.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/04/27/05/3FA4214300000578-4449754-The_soldiers_seen_above_displaying_rocket_propelle d_grenades_dur-a-8_1493265754039.jpg

Guy on the right saying "Am I pretending loud enough??"

(that'swhatSHEsaid)

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/04/27/05/3FA418BC00000578-4449754-The_parade_was_held_to_mark_the_105th_birthday_of_ North_Korea_s_-a-9_1493265754073.jpg

reedak
01-29-2018, 02:01 AM
we are shaking in our boots...

Not only shaking in your boots, but shaking with laughter too. :laugh:

Maybe everything displayed there, including the fat boy, was fake. Perhaps after the "prince" kicks out the "pauper" and regains his rightful place upon the throne, peace will return to the Korean Peninsula. :drama:

https://americanliterature.com/author/mark-twain/book/the-prince-and-the-pauper/summary

Gunny
01-29-2018, 08:52 AM
I like all that shiny sh*t on their cammies. The only way they could make it easier is if they shoot themselves. I wonder can they sue Toys R Us if the springs don't work in those brightly-colored RPGs ..... :dunno:

reedak
01-29-2018, 10:59 AM
I like all that shiny sh*t on their cammies. The only way they could make it easier is if they shoot themselves. I wonder can they sue Toys R Us if the springs don't work in those brightly-colored RPGs ..... :dunno:

If Michael Pregent's "toy weapons" theory is true, what can the fat boy's family dynasty gain by suing a company that is filing for bankruptcy protection amid debt struggle? It is akin to a band of stupid robbers stripping a beggar of his rags. Hence, if they sue Toys "R" Us, you will be shaking more with laughter in your boots. :laugh:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/toys-r-us-to-close-about-180-stores-across-the-country/

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-09-18/toys-r-us-is-said-to-plan-bankruptcy-filing-as-soon-as-today

Gunny
01-29-2018, 11:24 AM
If Michael Pregent's "toy weapons" theory is true, what can the fat boy's family dynasty gain by suing a company that is filing for bankruptcy protection amid debt struggle? It is akin to a band of stupid robbers stripping a beggar of his rags. Hence, if they sue Toys "R" Us, you will be shaking more with laughter in your boots. :laugh:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/toys-r-us-to-close-about-180-stores-across-the-country/

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-09-18/toys-r-us-is-said-to-plan-bankruptcy-filing-as-soon-as-todayHere's the thing, beyond their tinkertoy weapons. N Korean troops are brainwashed automatons. They have no heart nor will to fight. Sure, they get all fanatical with their human wave tactic, but they were using CHINESE bodies, not North Korean ones.

South Koreans, on the other hand, at least the S Korean Marines I met, are total psychos. They sit on the DMZ like wolves waiting for someone to open the gate. Trust me, THEY don't give a damn about all this peace talk BS. They figure a good, compliant enemy is one that's staring up at the sky.

They're well trained :)

High_Plains_Drifter
01-29-2018, 11:49 AM
I like all that shiny sh*t on their cammies. The only way they could make it easier is if they shoot themselves. I wonder can they sue Toys R Us if the springs don't work in those brightly-colored RPGs ..... :dunno:
Evidently they haven't caught on to what SUBDUED actually is yet, so they're about 30 YEARS behind us.

The funniest thing about their uniforms is their officers dress hats. They look like something out of a Mario Brothers Donkey Kong video game...

https://image.ibb.co/bQHkR6/donkey_kong.jpg

reedak
01-29-2018, 12:56 PM
Here's the thing, beyond their tinkertoy weapons. N Korean troops are brainwashed automatons. They have no heart nor will to fight. Sure, they get all fanatical with their human wave tactic, but they were using CHINESE bodies, not North Korean ones.

South Koreans, on the other hand, at least the S Korean Marines I met, are total psychos. They sit on the DMZ like wolves waiting for someone to open the gate. Trust me, THEY don't give a damn about all this peace talk BS. They figure a good, compliant enemy is one that's staring up at the sky.

They're well trained :)

As the saying goes, "the proof of the pudding is in the eating," we shall find out the "tastier pudding" in the Second Korean War.

P.S. If no pudding, chocolate or popcorn is okay. :chocolate: :popcorn:

http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/proof-of-the-pudding.html

reedak
01-29-2018, 01:31 PM
Evidently they haven't caught on to what SUBDUED actually is yet, so they're about 30 YEARS behind us.

The funniest thing about their uniforms is their officers dress hats. They look like something out of a Mario Brothers Donkey Kong video game...


Perhaps the fat boy should mass-produce the helmets of all his military officers on the model of his hairstyle. :)

Gunny
01-29-2018, 02:16 PM
As the saying goes, "the proof of the pudding is in the eating," we shall find out the "tastier pudding" in the Second Korean War.

P.S. If no pudding, chocolate or popcorn is okay. :chocolate: :popcorn:

http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/proof-of-the-pudding.htmlWhen you force people to fight to defend their own homes and not get pushed into the sea, you better have overwhelming superiority. Getting to that point is the issue. This Shera Khan, gag-me-with-a-spoon act Un is playing with South IS enough to make you gag.

Un mistakenly believes possessing nuclear weapons makes him one of the "big boy" and he should be treated as such. Nobody's going to screw around with his dumb ass and if he does anything it will be the end of him.

The real casualty will be South Korea, as you stated. They're in No Man's Land.

reedak
02-05-2018, 07:13 PM
Summary

To obtain lasting peace on the Korean Peninsula, denuclearisation of North Korea is just the first step. The second step is to ask Fatboy Kim to step down from his throne and disband the communist party for reunification and free elections. North Korea has said umpteen times that its nuclear programme is non-negotiable. Even when it offered to participate in the Winter Olympics, it had made no secret that it would never give up its nuclear weapons. Hence it is a pipe dream to expect the so-called thaw in Korean relations to bring about denuclearisation of North Korea.

It is evident from North Korea's Winter Olympic diplomacy that sanctions have begun to bite. Under enormous pressure, North Korea has resorted to clutch at the (South Korean) straw like a drowning man. The so-called rapprochement between the two Koreas will give the rogue regime a brief but much-needed respite to develop its nuclear programme and eventually subdue the South with nuclear blackmail. In the face of mounting sanctions, North Korea urgently requires economic aid and the reopening of the Kaesong joint-venture with the South under another “Sunshine Policy”.

Meanwhile, the US and its allies must keep up the momentum of the sanctions and maximise pressure on North Korea. If North Korea succeeds to use the so-called thaw in inter-Korean relations to break the sanctions, not only the US, South Korea and other US allies but the whole world will long regret for missing the long-awaited chance to finally denuclearise North Korea, being outwitted by the rogue regime again at the critical moment.

http://www.eastasiaforum.org/2012/03/12/south-korea-a-return-to-the-sunshine-policy-could-prove-dangerous/

http://theweek.com/articles/687815/growing-nuclear-threat-from-north-korea

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/n-koreas-ceremonial-head-state-visit-south-seoul-152619244.html

aboutime
02-05-2018, 08:06 PM
We are fools if we believe ROCKET MAN for anything.

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