North Korea promises to punish China and Russia

[reedak]

1. The following are excerpts from a Reuters news report, by Ben Blanchard in Beijing and Hyonhee Shin in Seoul on December 24, 2017, under the headline "North Korea says new U.N. sanctions an act of war" at https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles/north-korea-says-new-u-n-sanctions-an-act-of-war-idUSKBN1EI03D

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BEIJING/SEOUL (Reuters) - The latest U.N. sanctions against North Korea are an act of war and tantamount to a complete economic blockade against it, North Korea’s foreign ministry said on Sunday, threatening to punish those who supported the measure....

“The U.S. should not forget even a second the entity of the DPRK which rapidly emerged as a strategic state capable of posing a substantial nuclear threat to the U.S. mainland,” it added.

North Korea said those who voted for the sanctions would face its wrath.

“Those countries that raised their hands in favor of this ‘sanctions resolution’ shall be held completely responsible for all the consequences to be caused by the ‘resolution’ and we will make sure for ever and ever that they pay heavy price for what they have done.”

The North’s old allies China and Russia both supported the latest U.N. sanctions.... (End excerpts)

2. North Korea promised that all the countries (including China and Russia of course) that supported the US-sponsored resolution will have a taste of the wrath of North Korea. In a statement carried by the official KCNA news agency, North Korea’s foreign ministry said: "We will make sure for ever and ever that they pay heavy price for what they have done." There is no doubt from the news report that North Korea has promised to punish China and Russia. Let's wait and see whether the rogue state will keep its promise.

Most people will laugh at the threats of the devil incarnate, taking them as vile ravings of a lunatic. However, suppose we could go back to the late 13th century through the "time tunnel" to look at the rise of the Mongol Empire, the Chinese emperor and the Russian czar would have been rolling on the ground with laughter had Genghis Khan, a then-unknown leader of an "uncivilized" nomadic tribe, made similar threats to punish them.

If North Korea's missiles could strike the entire US as claimed by the rogue regime, the whole of China, Russia and Europe should also be within striking range. If North Korea fires a few nuclear missiles at some major cities in China or Russia, it is questionable whether the two countries can do anything to avert the potential disasters. North Korea's nuclear missiles are too close for comfort to all its neighbours. The rogue state is holding its neighbours at gunpoint, literally pointing a gun at the forehead.

http://www.nan.ng/news/north-korea-declares-war-new-un-sanctions/

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-40760583

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genghis_Khan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_invasion_of_Rus%27

http://epicworldhistory.blogspot.sg/2012/10/mongol-rule-of-russia.html

[LongTermGuy]

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[reedak]

Thank you for thanking my post. Best of luck to you to stay long term.

[Little-Acorn]

What exactly are these new sanctions against NK? I heard something about limiting the exports of gasoline, diesel etc., among other things.

Limiting the EXPORTS? Do they mean, other countries won't export these fuels to North Korea very much? Or do they mean that NK itself has been exporting them to other countries, and now it's being told not to? (Or more accurately, other countries are being told not to buy gas or diesel from NK?)

Does NK have its own oil wells? Or do they buy crude oil from other countries by the tanker-load, refine it into gasoline and diesel etc., and sell those refined products to other countries?

I'm so confused.

[reedak]

What exactly are these new sanctions against NK? I heard something about limiting the exports of gasoline, diesel etc., among other things.

Limiting the EXPORTS? Do they mean, other countries won't export these fuels to North Korea very much? Or do they mean that NK itself has been exporting them to other countries, and now it's being told not to? (Or more accurately, other countries are being told not to buy gas or diesel from NK?)

Does NK have its own oil wells? Or do they buy crude oil from other countries by the tanker-load, refine it into gasoline and diesel etc., and sell those refined products to other countries?

I'm so confused.

1. To be less confused in the future, please do some google search for whatever you want to know at google.com.

North Korea is routinely suspected of violating international sanctions by trading arms, smuggling drugs, counterfeiting US dollars and other crimes. These activities would be expected to refill the impoverished state with badly needed foreign exchange. It was the main suspect behind the global WannaCry ”ransomware” cyber attack which hit hundreds of thousands of computers in 150 countries in May this year (2017). When ransomware infects your computer, it encrypts all the data in the computer after getting activated by a central server. Once all the files are encrypted, it will display a message asking for a sum of money as ransom to unlock the encrypted data. The WannaCry hackers are asking for $300 in bitcoin to unlock affected files. It was suspected as another way for the rogue state to get badly needed foreign exchange. Usually, a timer is attached with the message to ramp up the pressure. If the timer stops, you will be permanently locked out of your files forever.

2. North Korea's most successful export industry is the garment industry. Production is by a North Korean firm for a European or other foreign partner, by a Chinese firm operating in North Korea with a North Korean partner, or by North Korean workers working in Chinese or other foreign factories. Wages are the lowest in northeastern Asia.

3. North Korea is rich in natural resources such as coal, lead, tungsten, zinc, graphite, magnesite, iron ore, copper, gold, pyrites, salt, fluorspar and hydropower.

According to http://www.themontrealreview.com/2009/Rare-Earth-Metals-North-Korea-New-Trump-Card.php

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....North Korea is sitting on the goldmine. The northern side of the Korean peninsula is well known for its rocky terrain with 85% of the country composed of mountains. It hosts sizeable deposits of more than 200 different minerals, of which deposits of coal, iron ore, magnesite, gold ore, zinc ore, copper ore, limestone, molybdenum, and graphite are the largest and have the potential for the development of large-scale mines. After China, North Korea's magnesite reserves are the second largest in the world, and its tungsten deposits are almost the sixth-largest in the world. Still the value of all these resources pales in comparison to prospects which promise the exploration and export of rare earth metals. (End excerpts)

4. According to http://www.38north.org/2015/07/jbermudez071015/

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...the country’s lack of significant proven oil reserves has forced it to import all of its crude oil and many of its finished petroleum products, while relying largely on coal and hydropower for energy. As a result, North Korea’s petroleum infrastructure remains rudimentary in design and capability.

North Korea presently runs only one of its two primary oil refineries, giving the single operational refinery a critical role in the nation’s economy and defense. That site, called the Ponghwa Chemical Factory, was built with Chinese support and reportedly uses imported crude to produce refined oil products for North Korea’s government, military, transportation, agricultural and fishing sectors.

The factory is also one of the country’s leading petrochemical research institutions, a distinction that places it alongside the Namhung Youth Chemical Complex and the Hungnam Fertilizer Complex. The achievements of these facilities are reflected in published notifications of awards, academic papers and reports by its scientists and researchers... (End excerpts)

5. However, according to http://nationalinterest.org/feature/could-north-korea-be-the-next-energy-superpower-14471

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...Yet with reports emerging of the hard-line Communist state’s potential oil and gas resources, South Korea and other U.S. allies in the region may soon face a far more capable military adversary.

Writing in the petroleum geoscience publication GEOExPro, exploration consultant Mike Rego suggests that the secretive Asian state offers “good hydrocarbon potential, both on and offshore…for those who are prepared to take ‘first mover advantage’ the rewards are there to be had.” (End excerpts)

6. Like all previous resolutions, the latest US resolution has been reportedly watered down in attempt to win support from China and Russia at UN security council meeting. It doesn’t include even harsher sanctions sought by the Trump administration, such as prohibiting all oil imports and freezing the international assets of North Korea’s government and its leader, Kim Jong Un.

The following are details of the latest US sanctions resolution, according to http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/12/22/un-votes-for-new-sanctions-against-north-korea/

(a) The resolution targets North Korea’s export, import, and maritime sectors, in addition to its energy security.

(b) It includes a measure to reduce the import of refined petroleum products into North Korea by almost 90 percent.

(c) It requires all countries employing North Korean guest workers and their security monitors to send them home within 24 months, and effectively bans the country’s citizens from working abroad. Approximately 93,000 North Koreans are working in foreign countries. Historically, North Korean workers abroad have served as a source of hard currency for the regime, sending home up to $500 hundred million annually, according to US Ambassador to the UN Nikki Haley.

(d) It bans all remaining categories of major North Korean exports including textiles.

(e) It forbids North Korea from importing heavy machinery, industrial equipment and transportation vehicles.

(f) It stipulates that all countries stopping North Korean ships caught smuggling illicit items, including oil and coal, seize and impound those vessels.

(g) It singles out 16 additional individuals and one entity connected to the financing and development of North Korea’s nuclear and ballistic missile programs for special designation on the UN sanctions list.

http://nationalinterest.org/feature/could-north-korea-be-the-next-energy-superpower-14471

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-usa-oil/how-north-korea-gets-its-oil-from-china-lifeline-in-question-at-u-n-meeting-idUSKBN17U1I1

https://www.nknews.org/2015/07/n-korean-oil-tankers-movement-indicates-refinery-power-plant-presence/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/01/north-korea-oil-gas-exploration

https://www.indexmundi.com/north_korea/natural_resources.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_North_Korea

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/11/north-korea-warns-us-greatest-pain-if-trump-pursues-oil-sanctions-threat

https://nypost.com/2017/12/22/un-security-council-approves-sanctions-against-north-korea/

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/15/wannacry-ransomware-north-korea-lazarus-group

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2017/05/16/north-korean-hacking-group-suspected-launching-wannacry-ransomware-attack/

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/805227/North-Korea-WannaCry-hacking-cyber-attack-Kim-Jong-Un

https://www.itproportal.com/features/hello-im-wannacry-pay-me-to-decrypt-your-files/

[GravyBoat]

The North Koreans make excellent kim-chi which is really delicious and good for you. Any country that has kim-chi we should be looking to do business with them not war. The United States needs to go back to Coca Cola Diplomacy since there's no possible way we could ever hope to defeat North Korea in a fair military fight. We lost it before and we can lose it again.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

... we could ever hope to defeat North Korea in a fair military fight.

What PLANET do you fucking LIVE ON?

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[jimnyc]

The North Koreans make excellent kim-chi which is really delicious and good for you. Any country that has kim-chi we should be looking to do business with them not war. The United States needs to go back to Coca Cola Diplomacy since there's no possible way we could ever hope to defeat North Korea in a fair military fight. We lost it before and we can lose it again.

Did you ever step on a land mine before?

[Gunny]

[QUOTE=reedak;889975]1. The following are excerpts from a Reuters news report, by Ben Blanchard in Beijing and Hyonhee Shin in Seoul on December 24, 2017, under the headline "North Korea says new U.N. sanctions an act of war" at https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles/north-korea-says-new-u-n-sanctions-an-act-of-war-idUSKBN1EI03D

(Begin excerpts)
BEIJING/SEOUL (Reuters) - The latest U.N. sanctions against North Korea are an act of war and tantamount to a complete economic blockade against it, North Korea’s foreign ministry said on Sunday, threatening to punish those who supported the measure....

“The U.S. should not forget even a second the entity of the DPRK which rapidly emerged as a strategic state capable of posing a substantial nuclear threat to the U.S. mainland,” it added.

North Korea said those who voted for the sanctions would face its wrath.

“Those countries that raised their hands in favor of this ‘sanctions resolution’ shall be held completely responsible for all the consequences to be caused by the ‘resolution’ and we will make sure for ever and ever that they pay heavy price for what they have done.”

The North’s old allies China and Russia both supported the latest U.N. sanctions.... (End excerpts)

2. North Korea promised that all the countries (including China and Russia of course) that supported the US-sponsored resolution will have a taste of the wrath of North Korea. In a statement carried by the official KCNA news agency, North Korea’s foreign ministry said: "We will make sure for ever and ever that they pay heavy price for what they have done." There is no doubt from the news report that North Korea has promised to punish China and Russia. Let's wait and see whether the rogue state will keep its promise.

Most people will laugh at the threats of the devil incarnate, taking them as vile ravings of a lunatic. However, suppose we could go back to the late 13th century through the "time tunnel" to look at the rise of the Mongol Empire, the Chinese emperor and the Russian czar would have been rolling on the ground with laughter had Genghis Khan, a then-unknown leader of an "uncivilized" nomadic tribe, made similar threats to punish them.

If North Korea's missiles could strike the entire US as claimed by the rogue regime, the whole of China, Russia and Europe should also be within striking range. If North Korea fires a few nuclear missiles at some major cities in China or Russia, it is questionable whether the two countries can do anything to avert the potential disasters. North Korea's nuclear missiles are too close for comfort to all its neighbours. The rogue state is holding its neighbours at gunpoint, literally pointing a gun at the forehead.

http://www.nan.ng/news/north-korea-declares-war-new-un-sanctions/

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-40760583

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genghis_Khan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_invasion_of_Rus%27

For ever and ever, huh?:laugh:

Un should have his own comedy show on Comedy Central. That channel hates the US (when a Republican is Prez anyway).

[High_Plains_Drifter]

For ever and ever, huh?:laugh:

Un should have his own comedy show on Comedy Central. That channel hates the US (when a Republican is Prez anyway).
He's trying to unseat BAGHDAD BOB as the biggest GAS BAG in history.

[Gunny]

Did you ever step on a land mine before?He looks like a perfect candidate for "Land Mine Finder" to me. "Take this magnetized bayonet, and probe fr mines across that field ....":laugh:

[LongTermGuy]

Did you ever step on a land mine before?

Im sure Gravy has...were just talking to...butt-hurt "Ghost in the machine" :laugh:

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[darin]

wonder if he will punish them using his fake weapons.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3343213/kim-jong-uns-terrifying-new-missiles-are-fake-and-north-korea-is-trying-to-fool-the-world/

[GravyBoat]

Did you ever step on a land mine before?

Yeah, when I was a kid. The next door neighbor had a german shepherd, I stepped on a few land mines.

[LongTermGuy]

Yeah, when I was a kid. The next door neighbor had a german shepherd, I stepped on a few land mines.


.....Go to bed Gravy...its getting late...good night!:laugh:

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

.....Go to bed Gravy...its getting late...good night!:laugh:

NK is doing exactly what China wants---so the lie that it is also becoming China's enemy is just that, a lie.
Why would China want a nation state like NK, that close to its borders to have nukes and delivery capabilities????-TYR

[reedak]

NK is doing exactly what China wants---so the lie that it is also becoming China's enemy is just that, a lie.
Why would China want a nation state like NK, that close to its borders to have nukes and delivery capabilities????-TYR

My friend, let me see whether you have a chance to lie to me after you let your supposedly close friend store tons of gunpowder next to your house. Let me see whether you have a chance to tell me a lie after you let your supposedly gun-toting close friend share the same bedroom with you at night.

Similarly, any regime that "would want a nation state like NK, that close to its borders to have nukes and delivery capabilities" is urgently in need of mental examination. The failure of China to nip the North Korean nuclear threat in the bud proves the stupidity of Chinese leaders.

Many years ago, I came across an article in a Chinese newspaper saying that Kim Jong-il (Fatboy Kim's late father), even as a student, had a very low opinion of Chinese leaders, calling them idiots or dotards. The late Korean leader managed to outplay the three nuclear powers (the US, China and Russia) and succeeded to advance his nuclear programme by taking advantage of the mistrust and hostility between China and the US, and the power rivalry between China and Russia in East Asia. This shows that Kim Jong-il was a brilliant military strategist in his time.

[reedak]

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