First charges filed in Mueller investigation

[pete311]

First charges filed in Mueller investigation

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/27/politics/first-charges-mueller-investigation/index.html

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

First charges filed in Mueller investigation

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/27/politics/first-charges-mueller-investigation/index.html

CNN, ----:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
Communist
News
Network!

So the assholes that themselves re going to be charged in their Russia Uranium One scandal are now rushing to strike first!

How about Trump sends Federal Marshals to arrest those vermin-- and break up that nest of vipers?

I hope he does--because obama's Washington is as corrupt as any government in this natin ever has been.
And obama himself should be arrested TOO, IMHO.--TYR

[Black Diamond]

CNN, ----:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
Communist
News
Network!

So the assholes that themselves re going to be charged in their Russia Uranium One scandal are now rushing to strike first!

How about Trump sends Federal Marshals to arrest those vermin-- and break up that nest of vipers?

I hope he does--because obama's Washington is as corrupt as any government in this natin ever has been.
And obama himself should be arrested TOO, IMHO.--TYR
Brood of vipers. :)

Be hilarious if Obama and Hillary got in legal trouble after the left went after trump with this Russia stuff

[High_Plains_Drifter]

The "charges" better be on Hitlery, or Comey, or Lynch, or someone in the DNC... or this is an absolute JOKE, and will NOT be well received. Mueller will just be digging his OWN hole even deeper.

[pete311]

The "charges" better be on Hitlery, or Comey, or Lynch, or someone in the DNC... or this is an absolute JOKE, and will NOT be well received. Mueller will just be digging his OWN hole even deeper.

Charge details haven't even been released yet and you're claiming it a joke. That kool aid is strong stuff! It's likely Manafort goes down first. I guess it's not important whatever he did.

[hjmick]

Well, we all know what Sol Wachtler said about grand juries...

pete, may I recommend you supplement your meals with saltpeter? That should help with the uncontrollable erections the Mueller investigation and this news must be giving you...

You Trump supporters, might I suggest you not scoff at the sources? Like it or not, convicted or not, none of this is good for anyone and the source of the news is the least of the administration's worries...


I'd be willing to bet that whoever is being indicted, probably one of three (Flynn, Page, or Manafort... I can't see Kushner or Jr. getting the call), will be facing charges that have little or nothing to do with what the investigation was originally supposed to be about...


As for the compromised Mueller, he should probably start investigating who the leak is in his little hit squad...

[pete311]

pete, may I recommend you supplement your meals with saltpeter? That should help with the uncontrollable erections the Mueller investigation and this news must be giving you...


Please don't use my name with the word erections again. Creeps me out coming from you. All I did was present the story. You make up the rest.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

Charge details haven't even been released yet and you're claiming it a joke. That kool aid is strong stuff! It's likely Manafort goes down first. I guess it's not important whatever he did.
I see you've chosen to play IGNORANT to what I actually WROTE this time. I see the LIBERAL JACKASSERY is strong with you.

I said it "COULD" be a joke, and I find it interesting that you already know who it is and that they're GOING DOWN. So tell me oh wise snowflake, exactly when and where did you get your CRYSTAL BALL?

What's even MORE interesting is the TIMING of these purported "charges," and why it was LEAKED on a FRIDAY NIGHT. They wanted to give the DEMOCRAT PROPAGANDA WING the weekend to FROTH AT THE MOUTH and shoot BLOOD OUT OF THEIR EYES with HYSTERICAL STATEMENTS about the DAM BURSTING, and they have, right on que, and it's LAUGHABLE. Just when the HEAT is about as HOT as it can get on the DEMS, Heir Mueller pulls this stunt, and it is a STUNT.

You don't think people don't know what this ass clown is doing? You don't think republicans didn't see this coming? This is shitty, get down in the mud, roll in the filth tactics that democrats love to use, but everything they've done so far has BACKFIRED on them, and I'll tell you what, THIS WILL TOO. Mueller will be lucky if he can keep his OWN ass out of JAIL at this point.

Yeah, you can QUOTE me on that one.

[pete311]

I see you've chosen to play IGNORANT to what I actually WROTE this time. I see the LIBERAL JACKASSERY is strong with you.

I said it "COULD" be a joke, and I find it interesting that you already know who it is and that they're GOING DOWN. So tell me oh wise snowflake, exactly when and where did you get your CRYSTAL BALL?

What's even MORE interesting is the TIMING of these purported "charges," and why it was LEAKED on a FRIDAY NIGHT. They wanted to give the DEMOCRAT PROPAGANDA WING the weekend to FROTH AT THE MOUTH and shoot BLOOD OUT OF THEIR EYES with HYSTERICAL STATEMENTS about the DAM BURSTING, and they have, right on que, and it's LAUGHABLE. Just when the HEAT is about as HOT as it can get on the DEMS, Heir Mueller pulls this stunt, and it is a STUNT.

You don't think people don't know what this ass clown is doing? You don't think republicans didn't see this coming? This is shitty, get down in the mud, roll in the filth tactics that democrats love to use, but everything they've done so far has BACKFIRED on them, and I'll tell you what, THIS WILL TOO. Mueller will be lucky if he can keep his OWN ass out of JAIL at this point.

Yeah, you can QUOTE me on that one.

Wow, dude, you the one who is hysterical. Get a grip.

[Black Diamond]

Wow, dude, you the one who is hysterical. Get a grip.
As if you weren't looking for a fight.

[pete311]

As if you weren't looking for a fight.

Nope, just reporting the news. Put your gun down.

[aboutime]

First charges filed in Mueller investigation

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/27/politics/first-charges-mueller-investigation/index.html

How dumb you and the rest of the liberals are gonna look on Monday, when you learn that NOBODY connected to Trump, other than Mannafort will be indicted.

You and CNN are so sure your BOUGHT/PAID FOR Buddy Mueller is gonna indict a Republican....your mouths are watering, and the little brain you have...just dripped from your ears.
WHAT WILL YOU DO? WHAT WILL YOU DO....If you are all WRONG?

[pete311]

How dumb you and the rest of the liberals are gonna look on Monday, when you learn that NOBODY connected to Trump, other than Mannafort will be indicted.

You and CNN are so sure your BOUGHT/PAID FOR Buddy Mueller is gonna indict a Republican....your mouths are watering, and the little brain you have...just dripped from your ears.
WHAT WILL YOU DO? WHAT WILL YOU DO....If you are all WRONG?

Why would I look dumb? I've made no predictions other than Manafort being involved since it's pretty widely known. The communities reactions are disturbingly tribal. I am not your enemy.

[aboutime]

Why would I look dumb? I've made no predictions other than Manafort being involved since it's pretty widely known. The communities reactions are disturbingly tribal. I am not your enemy.


Funny you should ask WHY? We all know by now. It takes very little effort for you to look that way. Just keep posting. The sad entertainment value coming from you is priceless. And...as usual...like the good liberal you are...You asked another question, rather than answer any you were asked. You sound so DNC TRAINED it's comical.

[Black Diamond]

Funny you should ask WHY? We all know by now. It takes very little effort for you to look that way. Just keep posting. The sad entertainment value coming from you is priceless. And...as usual...like the good liberal you are...You asked another question, rather than answer any you were asked. You sound so DNC TRAINED it's comical.
Is he under wassermann Schultz spell ?

[pete311]

Funny you should ask WHY? We all know by now. It takes very little effort for you to look that way. Just keep posting. The sad entertainment value coming from you is priceless. And...as usual...like the good liberal you are...You asked another question, rather than answer any you were asked. You sound so DNC TRAINED it's comical.

I'm going to go out and carve a pumpkin. Enjoy your day.

[hjmick]

Please don't use my name with the word erections again. Creeps me out coming from you. All I did was present the story. You make up the rest.


The truth about your masturbatory stimuli makes you uncomfortable.



Got it.

[Black Diamond]

I'm going to go out and carve a pumpkin. Enjoy your day.
You'll probably carve muellers face on it and then penetrate the eyes and mouth.

[pete311]

The truth about your masturbatory stimuli makes you uncomfortable.



Got it.


You'll probably carve muellers face on it and then penetrate the eyes and mouth.

#MAGA, class acts, got it!

[PostmodernProphet]

is it Awan or Debbie.......

[High_Plains_Drifter]

Wow, dude, you the one who is hysterical. Get a grip.
What's the matter... too much reality for ya there, son?

[aboutime]

I'm going to go out and carve a pumpkin. Enjoy your day.


Do it while looking in a BROKEN MIRROR. That should please your liberal idiocy.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

As if right on cue, and Madison, WI being the massive liberal toilet that it is, the 6:00PM local news reported on this coming stunt with absolutely unconstrained frothing at the mouth, wide eyed, erection waving exuberance and excitment, and made it sound as diabolically bad as they possibly could. But being the leftist trash they are I haven't heard ONE PEEP about Fusion GPS and Hitlery and the DNC, OR uranium 1.

Democrats are as predictable as the sun coming up, and nowadays they don't even TRY and hide their hypocrisy and double standard. This is bad AND good. Bad because stupid people, ie. leftists, listen to it and think nothing of it, but good because anyone with a functioning brain sees the BLATANT hypocrisy and knows ALL ABOUT the leftist propaganda machine, and will continue to VOTE AGAINST THEM.

[pete311]

As if right on cue, and Madison, WI being the massive liberal toilet that it is, the 6:00PM local news reported on this coming stunt with absolutely unconstrained frothing at the mouth, wide eyed, erection waving exuberance and excitment, and made it sound as diabolically bad as they possibly could. But being the leftist trash they are I haven't heard ONE PEEP about Fusion GPS and Hitlery and the DNC, OR uranium 1.

Democrats are as predictable as the sun coming up, and nowadays they don't even TRY and hide their hypocrisy and double standard. This is bad AND good. Bad because stupid people, ie. leftists, listen to it and think nothing of it, but good because anyone with a functioning brain sees the BLATANT hypocrisy and knows ALL ABOUT the leftist propaganda machine, and will continue to VOTE AGAINST THEM.

Maybe you forget that your guy won. Of course he gets the spotlight. The probe just started on U1. What is there to report yet?

[jimnyc]

My best guess is Manafort, and if so, adios!

And putting aside this investigation, which IS important to finalize - they really need to get someone going the other way around on this Uranium story. Put any of the crooked bastards in the slammer.

[jimnyc]

And ten seconds later I read this. Could mean shit, could mean more. It comes from "buzzfeed" after all. But they have found news before others previously.

--

MORE LEAKS: Deep State Focusing on Paul Manafort and “Suspicious” Wire Transfers

Amid reports Special Counsel Robert Mueller is set to file charges on Monday, we now learn the FBI’s investigation into former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort is centered around “suspicious” wire transfers.

The series of transfers were previously unreported and caught the attention of law enforcement “as far back as 2012,” — Three years before Donald Trump announced his candidacy for President. The report on Manafort comes from BuzzFeed News, and therefore, should be read with a grain of salt.

Buzzfeed claims:

The FBI’s investigation of Donald Trump’s former campaign manager, Paul Manafort, includes a keen focus on a series of suspicious wire transfers in which offshore companies linked to Manafort moved more than $3 million all over the globe between 2012 and 2013.

Much of the money came into the United States.

These transactions — which have not been previously reported — drew the attention of federal law enforcement officials as far back as 2012, when they began to examine wire transfers to determine if Manafort hid money from tax authorities or helped the Ukrainian regime close to Russian President Vladimir Putin launder some of the millions it plundered through corrupt dealings.

As the political world waits with with bated breath for Mueller’s charges, the identity of the individual (s) charged is not known at this time. It is plausible former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort is among them. The former Trump campaign manager says he knows nothing about Mueller possibly filing charges against him.

Independent UK reports:

Donald Trump’s former campaign Paul Manafort has said he has not been informed of any possible criminal charges against him, after it was reported the first indictments had been filed by the team investigating Russia’s alleged meddling in the 2016 election.

Reports said a grand jury working with Special Prosecutor Robert Mueller, had approved the first charges to result from the ongoing probe that is looking at possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia. The reports, which have not specified what the charges are or who they were filed against, said a suspect could be taken into custody as soon as Monday.

Rest - http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/10/report-fbi-investigation-paul-manafort-focuses-suspicious-wire-transfers/

[High_Plains_Drifter]

Wire transfers with Russia aren't illegal, in fact they happen every minute of every day.

This is still one huge fishing expedition, and the most stupid thing about it is, they won't allow it to end unless they fry someone, a sacrificial lamb, a scapegoat, someone to take a bullet just to seemingly justify the investigation, whether that person is actually guilty of any wrong doing or not. There's not going to be any way to get rid of Mueller unless they give him someone to put in jail, even though there's never been a more gross conflict of interest on an investigation before in history, and with the progression of the dossier and uranium one investigations, Mueller will have his hands full trying to keep his own ass out of prison.

My guess is, if they make a scapegoat out of Manafort and he's actually convicted for some drummed up charges, president Trump will pardon him anyway. This entire Trump collusion investigation from the start has been an absolute FARCE, all predicated on lies and deceit from the democrats.

[pete311]

Wires transfers with Russia aren't illegal, in fact they happen every minute of every day.

This is still one huge fishing expedition, and the most stupid thing about it is, they won't allow it to end unless they fry someone, a sacrificial lamb, a scapegoat, someone to take a bullet just to seemingly justify the investigation, whether that person is actually guilty of any wrong doing or not. There's not going to be any way to get rid of Mueller unless they give him someone to put in jail, even though there's never been a more gross conflict of interest on an investigation before in history, and with the progression of the dossier and uranium one investigations, Mueller will have his hands full trying to keep his own ass out of prison.

My guess is, if they make a scapegoat out of Manafort and he's actually convicted for some drummed up charges, president Trump will pardon him anyway. This entire Trump collusion investigation from the start has been an absolute FARCE, all predicated on lies and deceit from the democrats.

Come back to earth. You are on planet hyberbole. Let the process play out.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

Come back to earth. You are on planet hyberbole. Let the process play out.
Go suck a big dick, you ignorant little prick.

[pete311]

Go suck a big dick, you ignorant little prick.

Yes that attitude will #MAGA :salute:

[jimnyc]

Yes that attitude will #MAGA :salute:

Somehow using Trump's campaign slogan, in response to one supporter your going back and forth with, makes little sense to me. Seems to me, that nothing whatsoever surrounding Trump has been found as of yet. A lot of stuff surrounding Manafort was personal stuff that started in 2012, long before Trump. Like you said, let the process play out. We'll have news within the next 24 on at least one person, or who knows, maybe even more. And if they have evidence on said person, like I said - adios! I just don't see it as of yet having any connection to Trump himself, his slogan, his agenda and his work thus far.

And Hillary and the others behind this uranium one are next, right? You do agree an equivalent style of special prosecutor should investigate?

[Abbey Marie]

CNN, ----:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
Communist
News
Network!

So the assholes that themselves re going to be charged in their Russia Uranium One scandal are now rushing to strike first!

How about Trump sends Federal Marshals to arrest those vermin-- and break up that nest of vipers?

I hope he does--because obama's Washington is as corrupt as any government in this natin ever has been.
And obama himself should be arrested TOO, IMHO.--TYR


Or CNN - "Certainly Not News". :laugh2:

[NightTrain]

What's this?

0bama was paying Perkins Coie a million dollars last year too? I wonder, was that also reported according to FEC laws?

Ohhh myyyyy.


http://thefederalist.com/2017/10/29/obamas-campaign-gave-972000-law-firm-funneled-money-fusion-gps/


Yeah, I think Perkins Coie and Fusion GPS need to supply all bank records from the last 10 years to Congress. It's time to take out the trash.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

Yes that attitude will #MAGA :salute:
You're acting like a little smart ass, so that's the way I'll treat you.

You lay off the twit act, I'll treat you normal.

[pete311]

Somehow using Trump's campaign slogan, in response to one supporter your going back and forth with, makes little sense to me. Seems to me, that nothing whatsoever surrounding Trump has been found as of yet. A lot of stuff surrounding Manafort was personal stuff that started in 2012, long before Trump. Like you said, let the process play out. We'll have news within the next 24 on at least one person, or who knows, maybe even more. And if they have evidence on said person, like I said - adios! I just don't see it as of yet having any connection to Trump himself, his slogan, his agenda and his work thus far.

And Hillary and the others behind this uranium one are next, right? You do agree an equivalent style of special prosecutor should investigate?

Someone who wants to make america great gain but then acts like a total asshole is funny. If that kind of behavior is our american gold standard, then count me out. That is my point.

I still don't understand the U1 situation well enough. If Sessions wants to pursue it, then go ahead. Why aren't you ticked off at Sessions? The dems are not in control.

[Black Diamond]

Someone who wants to make america great gain but then acts like a total asshole is funny. If that kind of behavior is our american gold standard, then count me out. That is my point.

I still don't understand the U1 situation well enough. If Sessions wants to pursue it, then go ahead. Why aren't you ticked off at Sessions? The dems are not in control.
that's debatable

[pete311]

You're acting like a little smart ass, so that's the way I'll treat you.

You lay off the twit act, I'll treat you normal.

Yes dad

[aboutime]

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[pete311]

where petey came from...http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/1200x/ac/04/4a/ac044ae5265a1512509b53a81fcb1f6a.jpg


#maga

[jimnyc]

#maga

From someone who declares Trump Jr. as colluding with Russia with no evidence, then couldn't care less now that the tables have turned.

#Hypocrisy

[High_Plains_Drifter]

Yes dad
Do you think you look cool or what? You think you're scoring points or furthering your argument here with all these people acting like a little twat?

I don't suppose you're smart enough to understand that's why most normal people dislike you leftists. You all act like a bunch of spoiled, petulant little smart ass cock roaches.

I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt, and tried to treat you with some respect. Well guess what, skippy, you flushed that down the toilet. Now I'm going to treat you just like I do any other cocky little leftist prick... hope you enjoy that... dumbass.

[LongTermGuy]

Where petey came from...http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/1200x/ac/04/4a/ac044ae5265a1512509b53a81fcb1f6a.jpg





http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v642/shakespeares_sister/shakes6/obama-smiling-looking-down.jpg
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[Black Diamond]

#maga
We are working on it. In spite of the opposition from the left, media, and RINOs

[aboutime]

Whoever released the information about the Grand Jury proceedings, in any form, should be held in contempt of court. Grand Jury decisions, and even their existence are, by law...supposed to be secret.

.................................................. .....................................
https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcrmp/rule_6
(2) Secrecy.

(A) No obligation of secrecy may be imposed on any person except in accordance with Rule 6(e)(2)(B).

(B) Unless these rules provide otherwise, the following persons must not disclose a matter occurring before the grand jury:

(i) a grand juror;

(ii) an interpreter;

(iii) a court reporter;

(iv) an operator of a recording device;

(v) a person who transcribes recorded testimony;

(vi) an attorney for the government; or

(vii) a person to whom disclosure is made under Rule 6(e)(3)(A)(ii) or (iii).

(3) Exceptions.

(A) Disclosure of a grand-jury matter—other than the grand jury's deliberations or any grand juror's vote—may be made to:

(i) an attorney for the government for use in performing that attorney's duty;

(ii) any government personnel—including those of a state, state subdivision, Indian tribe, or foreign government—that an attorney for the government considers necessary to assist in performing that attorney's duty to enforce federal criminal law; or

(iii) a person authorized by 18 U.S.C. §3322.

(B) A person to whom information is disclosed under Rule 6(e)(3)(A)(ii) may use that information only to assist an attorney for the government in performing that attorney's duty to enforce federal criminal law. An attorney for the government must promptly provide the court that impaneled the grand jury with the names of all persons to whom a disclosure has been made, and must certify that the attorney has advised those persons of their obligation of secrecy under this rule.

(C) An attorney for the government may disclose any grand-jury matter to another federal grand jury.

(the remaining information is contained in the link provided)
Somebody WILL GO TO JAIL.

[Kathianne]

At least that is what is now being widely reported:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/30/us/politics/paul-manafort-indicted.html

[High_Plains_Drifter]

At least that is what is now being widely reported:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/30/us/politics/paul-manafort-indicted.html
Yup, just heard it on the news. He's going to turn himself in.

But at least now he can defend himself. This isn't going to be some slam dunk for Mueller. It could back fire on him just like everything else Russia has already for the dems.

[NightTrain]

Yeah, Manafort and Rick Gates.

Supposedly the charges have nothing to do with the 2016 election and are tax fraud & other white collar crimes from years back.

I guess it makes sense to spend millions investigating Tax Fraud when the IRS would have done it for free.

[pete311]

"The 12-count indictment is on "conspiracy against the United States, conspiracy to launder money, unregistered agent of a foreign principal, false and misleading FARA statements, false statements, and seven counts of failure to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts."The charges do not cover any activities related to the campaign, though superceding indictments remain possible."

Pretty good news for the WH.

[pete311]

Good lord he sounds like a real piece of shit. I hope he gets life!

Hacked text messages allegedly sent by Paul Manafort's daughter discuss 'blood money' and killings

http://www.businessinsider.com/paul-manafort-daughter-text-messages-ukraine-2017-3

[NightTrain]

Indictment :

https://www.justice.gov/file/1007271/download


And if he's guilty, then lock them up.

Mueller has a pretty shady reputation for bogus charges, though, so we'll see. Manafort's certainly got enough money to hire the best lawyers.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

"The 12-count indictment is on "conspiracy against the United States, conspiracy to launder money, unregistered agent of a foreign principal, false and misleading FARA statements, false statements, and seven counts of failure to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts."The charges do not cover any activities related to the campaign, though superceding indictments remain possible."

Pretty good news for the WH.

And you give no comment on how this was used by the usual liberal/dem/vermin suspects, to brand, tarnish and vilify President Trump and try to destroy him..
Not much on being fair are you??--Tyr

[pete311]

And you give no comment on how this was used by the usual liberal/dem/vermin suspects, to brand, tarnish and vilify President Trump and try to destroy him..
Not much on being fair are you??--Tyr

Would you like me to write a book? Would that satisfy you? I already said it's good news for the WH. However the investigation is not over.

[NightTrain]

Would you like me to write a book? Would that satisfy you? I already said it's good news for the WH. However the investigation is not over.


It would appear that the moonbats breathlessly awaiting their elusive GOTCHA!!! moment are going to be disappointed yet again.

If there were any actual wrongdoings from the Trump campaign, Mueller wouldn't be fucking around with Tax Evasion from years ago. But feel free to think otherwise and cling to that rapidly evaporating hope with a deathgrip.

And let's be honest, Petey, this whole thing was designed to find some collusion between Trump and Russia. Like the hilarious Corrupt-The-Electors escapade, this also has backfired spectacularly with the recent enlightenment of Hellary & DNC of actual Russian collusion.

Personally, I'm thoroughly enjoying this. I like justice being served.

[pete311]

Former Trump Foreign Policy Adviser Pleaded Guilty in Mueller Probe
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-30/ex-trump-campaign-foreign-advisor-george-papadopoulos-secretly-pleaded-guilty

[pete311]

It would appear that the moonbats breathlessly awaiting their elusive GOTCHA!!! moment are going to be disappointed yet again.


Nah, it was pretty well known for weeks that Manafort was the likely first target and reports over the past week indicated tax issues. And yes it was designed to find collusion. If it happened it should be handled, if not, great.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

Good lord he sounds like a real piece of shit. I hope he gets life!

Hacked text messages allegedly sent by Paul Manafort's daughter discuss 'blood money' and killings

http://www.businessinsider.com/paul-manafort-daughter-text-messages-ukraine-2017-3
"Hacking" is highly illegal, and I'm sure any purported hacked content would be inadmissible in court, not to mention they could easily be faked, and if the hacker could be identified, his ass would be in jail.

So even though you've convicted Manafort before he even makes an opening statement in his own defense, any charge against him needs to be proven beyond any shadow of a doubt in front of a judge and jury.

And Business Insider is another one of these websites that have a SHIT FIT that you're using an AD BLOCKER. They won't let you read their crap unless you unblock their website... fuck them.

[jimnyc]

Good lord he sounds like a real piece of shit. I hope he gets life!

Hacked text messages allegedly sent by Paul Manafort's daughter discuss 'blood money' and killings

http://www.businessinsider.com/paul-manafort-daughter-text-messages-ukraine-2017-3

So just like you did with Trump Jr, you're calling for this kind of stuff right from the get go, not completely knowing all the facts. But when it's Hillary and the Dems and Obama and the Fbi and Russia and Uranium...... you can barely find the energy to even find any wrongdoing at all.

#Comical_Hypocrisy

And on the other case, Manafort and his crap prior to any Trump business - if found guilty - adios!

But once again, and further - Trump is once again not involved. And this far into it, and not a single piece of evidence against him about this supposed collusion.

So while you can't find any wrongdoing with uranium one, Pete - care to retract accusations and what not about Trump and collusion, since you haven't seen ANY evidence/proof?

[jimnyc]

Former Trump Foreign Policy Adviser Pleaded Guilty in Mueller Probe
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-30/ex-trump-campaign-foreign-advisor-george-papadopoulos-secretly-pleaded-guilty

And one of the things involved with this one:

Russian professor told adviser he had dirt on Hillary Clinton

I wonder if this dossier, and those involved, will get similar treatment?

[pete311]

So just like you did with Trump Jr, you're calling for this kind of stuff right from the get go, not completely knowing all the facts. But when it's Hillary and the Dems and Obama and the Fbi and Russia and Uranium...... you can barely find the energy to even find any wrongdoing at all.

#Comical_Hypocrisy

And on the other case, Manafort and his crap prior to any Trump business - if found guilty - adios!

But once again, and further - Trump is once again not involved. And this far into it, and not a single piece of evidence against him about this supposed collusion.

So while you can't find any wrongdoing with uranium one, Pete - care to retract accusations and what not about Trump and collusion, since you haven't seen ANY evidence/proof?

I have yet to see any proof of wrong doing in the uranium one story. Help me out if you have it.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

So just like you did with Trump Jr, you're calling for this kind of stuff right from the get go, not completely knowing all the facts. But when it's Hillary and the Dems and Obama and the Fbi and Russia and Uranium...... you can barely find the energy to even find any wrongdoing at all.

#Comical_Hypocrisy

And on the other case, Manafort and his crap prior to any Trump business - if found guilty - adios!

But once again, and further - Trump is once again not involved. And this far into it, and not a single piece of evidence against him about this supposed collusion.

So while you can't find any wrongdoing with uranium one, Pete - care to retract accusations and what not about Trump and collusion, since you haven't seen ANY evidence/proof?
Yeah it's comical alright... funny how Pete hasn't made the same sort of comments about Hitlery. I guess 'accusations' against someone who knows president Trump is plenty good enough for Pete to want them STRUNG UP, but 'proof' against one of his messiahs corruption is ho-hum... nothing to see there... move along.

Yep, the epitome of hypocrisy on display for all to see.

[jimnyc]

I have yet to see any proof of wrong doing in the uranium one story. Help me out if you have it.

Let's put it this way - I see WAY much more "wrongdoing" that warrants an investigation - than Trump himself being involved in any type of collusion. But you call for an investigation for as long as it takes in one - and couldn't care less about the other.

You can keep stating you don't see evidence, all that proves is that you're blind. Even CNN and liberal crap news is finding wrongdoing and enough to warrant an investigation. You don't care because you're a hack. I said Manafort was likely guilty a LONG time ago, and said if evidence is found via an investigation, he needs to be jailed. A shame you can't be as "honest" when it comes to politics.

[pete311]

Let's put it this way - I see WAY much more "wrongdoing" that warrants an investigation - than Trump himself being involved in any type of collusion. But you call for an investigation for as long as it takes in one - and couldn't care less about the other.

You can keep stating you don't see evidence, all that proves is that you're blind. Even CNN and liberal crap news is finding wrongdoing and enough to warrant an investigation. You don't care because you're a hack. I said Manafort was likely guilty a LONG time ago, and said if evidence is found via an investigation, he needs to be jailed. A shame you can't be as "honest" when it comes to politics.

How many times do you I need to say if the house probe determines an investigation is warranted I will support it. Until then, I trust the probe and sessions don't think it's warranted and I trust them more than you to know.

[jimnyc]

How many times do you I need to say if the house probe determines an investigation is warranted I will support it. Until then, I trust the probe and sessions don't think it's warranted and I trust them more than you to know.

I suppose that's the best we'll get from you. Hopefully Sessions, or some other way, a detailed investigation will be completed. But from what I've seen in the past 18 months or so, I wouldn't expect the DOJ or FBI to do anything.

[Black Diamond]

I suppose that's the best we'll get from you. Hopefully Sessions, or some other way, a detailed investigation will be completed. But from what I've seen in the past 18 months or so, I wouldn't expect the DOJ or FBI to do anything.
Do you want Hillary put on trial? She will walk. Guilty or not.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

Do you want Hillary put on trial? She will walk. Guilty or not.
I'd like to see that lying, corrupt, thieving old skank hung by the neck in the public square. I'd drive 1,000 miles and pay to see that.

She's as guilty as SIN, and everyone knows it. IF they can collar the old WHORE with anything is the real question, and it's an absolute travesty of justice.

Too bad we don't have vigilantes anymore.

[jimnyc]

If found guilty, Manafort potentially could take his last breaths in prison! Damn, potentially up to 80 years! Say bye bye if you're guilty ya fucker!

--

Manafort and Gates face decades in prison, millions in fines

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump's former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, and Manafort's business associate Rick Gates face decades in federal prison and millions of dollars in potential fines if convicted on all counts in a sprawling federal indictment unsealed Monday.

Manafort potentially faces up to 80 years in prison, according to a review of the federal charges and the relevant statutes by The Associated Press. Gates, who also worked for the Trump campaign, faces up to 70 years.

Prosecutors could still file additional charges against the pair. If convicted at trial, the law gives federal judges wide latitude in imposing prison sentences and fines.

Prosecutors allege that Manafort and Gates worked as unregistered agents of the government of Ukraine and the Party of Regions, a pro-Russian political party led by Victor Yanukovych. While serving as president of the former Soviet republic from 2010 to 2014, Yanukovych was closely aligned with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Rest - https://www.yahoo.com/news/manafort-gates-face-decades-prison-millions-fines-162217177--politics.html

[High_Plains_Drifter]

"If convicted"... I see that story was written by the same TDS radical bunch of leftist pussy hat wearing mouth breathers Pete hangs out with, breathlessly salivating over someone close to president Trump possibly going to prison, and the irony of it all is the person leading this fishing expedition should be indicted and wind up in jail himself.

I've never seen such corruption in all of my life, and I've rubbed elbows with outlaw motorcycle gangs for the better part of three decades.

[aboutime]

I have yet to see any proof of wrong doing in the uranium one story. Help me out if you have it.


You come here and actually admit you really are that dumb? Of course YOU wouldn't see any wrong doing. You have your liberal, hypocritical eyes closed whenever anyone shows you actual FACTS that cannot be disputed. Then again. You have been coerced for so many years as a lib, that you are forbidden to be honest, and call a SPADE...A SPADE.

[jimnyc]

"If convicted"... I see that story was written by the same TDS radical bunch of leftist pussy hat wearing mouth breathers Pete hangs out with, breathlessly salivating over someone close to president Trump possibly going to prison, and irony of it all is the person leading this fishy expedition should be indicted and wind up in jail himself.

I've never seen such corruption in all of my life, and I've rubbed elbows with outlaw motorcycle gangs for the better part of three decades.

I do believe Manafort is guilty, I had thought that for many months now and predicted he would be the one to go down somehow.

But NO DOUBT that the Clinton/Holder/Lynch/Obama/FBI/Russia would be much much worse if the accusations are true. There is way more than enough impropriety out front to warrant an investigation. The fact that the FBI was potentially involved alone is enough. As I read, it has the potential to be the biggest scandal ever in politics.

Unlike folks like Pete, I will say that there is of course the possibility that if they investigate, that magically somehow everything was on the up and up and was all legit, but I HIGHLY doubt that. But there is so so much shit going on that we are now finding out, that contrary to the "debunked" BS, wasn't revealed before. And now we also have a potential witness that was for some reason under a gag order. But it ALL needs to be investigated. Oh, and let's not forget the "dossier" and how much that also may have played a part in getting this whole thing against the Trump team started - when it may have been BS to begin with. And as the Dems said when they thought Trump Jr had simply spoken with a lawyer to get dirt on Hillary - it was "treason" it was "collusion" and all kinds of other accusations.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

I do believe Manafort is guilty, I had thought that for many months now and predicted he would be the one to go down somehow.

But NO DOUBT that the Clinton/Holder/Lynch/Obama/FBI/Russia would be much much worse if the accusations are true. There is way more than enough impropriety out front to warrant an investigation. The fact that the FBI was potentially involved alone is enough. As I read, it has the potential to be the biggest scandal ever in politics.

Unlike folks like Pete, I will say that there is of course the possibility that if they investigate, that magically somehow everything was on the up and up and was all legit, but I HIGHLY doubt that. But there is so so much shit going on that we are now finding out, that contrary to the "debunked" BS, wasn't revealed before. And now we also have a potential witness that was for some reason under a gag order. But it ALL needs to be investigated. Oh, and let's not forget the "dossier" and how much that also may have played a part in getting this whole thing against the Trump team started - when it may have been BS to begin with. And as the Dems said when they thought Trump Jr had simply spoken with a lawyer to get dirt on Hillary - it was "treason" it was "collusion" and all kinds of other accusations.
I saw on fox news this morning that the OBAMA CAMPAIGN PAID THE LEGAL FIRM THAT PAID FUSION GPS for the dossier, almost a MILLION DOLLARS, so the little MUSLIM DOG TURD could have his ass in a jam before this is all said and done too. It could take YEARS to sort this all out.

But I just heard that Manafort and Davis plead not guilty to all charges, and now the government will have to PROVE their case.

[jimnyc]

I saw on fox news this morning that the OBAMA CAMPAIGN PAID THE LEGAL FIRM THAT PAID FUSION GPS for the dossier, almost a MILLION DOLLARS, so the little MUSLIM DOG TURD could have his ass in a jam before this is all said and done too. It could take YEARS to sort this all out.

But I just heard that Manafort and Davis plead not guilty to all charges, and now the government will have to PROVE their case.

Yup, and Clinton I believe was like $6 million? And it started with Jeb Bush I believe I read? So quite a few guilty most likely right there. And Hillary and Podesta and all want to act like they knew nothing about it. LOL

And WHY was Obama's team involved with them AT ALL? THAT is something that needs answering as well. And we all know that we ain't finding out shit by asking them, and the FBI may even be compromised and useless. There is an awful lot that needs another investigation.

[NightTrain]

Yup, and Clinton I believe was like $6 million? And it started with Jeb Bush I believe I read? So quite a few guilty most likely right there. And Hillary and Podesta and all want to act like they knew nothing about it. LOL

Nope, it was one of Rubio's backers, some billionaire that's funding the Free Beacon - which, is a pretty good site, really. Was kind of surprised to see them involved - but his payments ended before the dossier began, so Hellary, 0bama and the DNC own that baby 100% - and then lied about it on the FEC filings, which is quite a few felonies involved.

I have to wonder who Hellary is going to toss under the bus on this... I guarantee she isn't going to admit to shit. She needs a fall guy, and Vince Foster is already out of reach.

Is Podesta about to tragically shoot himself in the back of the head with a rifle? Skydiving accident? Run off a cliff?

[Gunny]

I do believe Manafort is guilty, I had thought that for many months now and predicted he would be the one to go down somehow.

But NO DOUBT that the Clinton/Holder/Lynch/Obama/FBI/Russia would be much much worse if the accusations are true. There is way more than enough impropriety out front to warrant an investigation. The fact that the FBI was potentially involved alone is enough. As I read, it has the potential to be the biggest scandal ever in politics.

Unlike folks like Pete, I will say that there is of course the possibility that if they investigate, that magically somehow everything was on the up and up and was all legit, but I HIGHLY doubt that. But there is so so much shit going on that we are now finding out, that contrary to the "debunked" BS, wasn't revealed before. And now we also have a potential witness that was for some reason under a gag order. But it ALL needs to be investigated. Oh, and let's not forget the "dossier" and how much that also may have played a part in getting this whole thing against the Trump team started - when it may have been BS to begin with. And as the Dems said when they thought Trump Jr had simply spoken with a lawyer to get dirt on Hillary - it was "treason" it was "collusion" and all kinds of other accusations.Al that time and money spent on "acted as unofficial agents for the Ukraine". Big whoop.
@jimnyc (http://www.debatepolicy.com/member.php?u=1) ... you can stand by if that's the case, Mr "Unofficial Agent for the Pittsburgh Steelers':rolleyes:

[High_Plains_Drifter]

Al that time and money spent on "acted as unofficial agents for the Ukraine". Big whoop.
@jimnyc (http://www.debatepolicy.com/member.php?u=1) ... you can stand by if that's the case, Mr "Unofficial Agent for the Pittsburgh Steelers':rolleyes:
Exactly... now that the charges have been made public and lawyers have had a chance to get a good look at them and the evidence, this is quickly becoming the sentiment...

The Manafort Indictment: Not Much There, and a Boon for Trump

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/453244/manafort-indictment-no-signs-trump-russia-collusion

What Mueller is doing is hoping he can SQUEEZE Manafort, and scare him, attempting to get him to dish out something he can pin on Trump in return for "going easy on him." My guess is that Manafort already knows Mueller doesn't have much, and he's going to tell him to go pound sand. He's going to fight every single charge and probably tie this up in court so long that by the time it's over, Mueller himself may find he's been indicted for his involvement in cover ups and corruption.

[LongTermGuy]

Yeah, Manafort and Rick Gates.

Supposedly the charges have nothing to do with the 2016 election and are tax fraud & other white collar crimes from years back.

I guess it makes sense to spend millions investigating Tax Fraud when the IRS would have done it for free.


​Yup...Muller and his expensive... "yes we can" hired obama / clinton lawyers having a hard time finding anything on Trump....just desperately scrapping old... hardened shit off the side-walk and staying away from the Obama / Hillary Corruption...

https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/FBFB-102517-Trump-Dossier.jpg
https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/FBFB-102717-Mueller.jpg

"So Mueller is looking at other things. And the things that he has indicted Manafort on have literally nothing to do with anything to do with Trump or the election in 2016 or the collusion with Russia.

In fact, the things that Manafort’s been indicted for I’m told everybody knew that he was doing. It’s a long-known secret and that he’s not the only one, that Podesta… The Podesta brothers are doing exactly this kind of thing every day, every week in Washington. This is the way it operates. Peter King, the congressman from New York was on Fox earlier today.


He was resolute in saying there was zilch, zero, nada evidence anywhere that there was any collusion with Russia by the Trump campaign. We still don’t have any of that evidence..... it’s not there, and this indictment of Manafort doesn’t produce anything. Nothing..!! Nothing has been shown to any congressional committee yet, House or Senate. Nothing!

There’s not a shred of evidence that’s been produced in hours, days, months of investigation by these two committees. There’s more than two.

There’s the committees in the House and the Senate........**All this Manafort stuff ... was leaked to CNN on Friday to distract the effervescing news about the Clinton involvement in all of this. The years of the charges in the indictment of Manafort are 2006 to 2015!!..

....There is no boundary..... Mueller can go wherever he wants. This whole Mueller investigation is occurring outside the guidelines that the Justice Department has set up for the special counsel and any special counsel investigation.....There must be a crime that is designated by the attorney general, in this case deputy AG, in impaneling the special counsel. There’s gotta be a crime that’s instructed to go find out about, investigate......

No crime here. No crime has been specified. You could look at the document that charters the Mueller special counsel investigation team. You won’t find a crime.

There are no limits on the number of people they can hire. There’s no limit on the amount of money he can spend. And there’s no limit on the amount of time.

All he can do and go wherever he wants. And for Manafort, he went back from 2006 to 2015. And that’s what he’s gonna do with Trump because there isn’t any evidence of Trump-Russia collusion. There just isn’t anything.

The only thing there is is the Trump dossier, and that’s fake and made up!"

https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/FB-080717-Swamp-Mueller.jpg

[Gunny]

I love my tax dollars being spent this way. How much time and money did they spend Hillary didn't send e-mails on an unsecure server when she sent e-mails on her unsecure server?

[pete311]

I saw on fox news this morning that the OBAMA CAMPAIGN PAID THE LEGAL FIRM THAT PAID FUSION GPS for the dossier, almost a MILLION DOLLARS, so the little MUSLIM DOG TURD could have his ass in a jam before this is all said and done too. It could take YEARS to sort this all out.

But I just heard that Manafort and Davis plead not guilty to all charges, and now the government will have to PROVE their case.


President Donald Trump claimed in a Monday morning tweetstorm that Barack Obama's campaign organization paid almost $1 million to the firm that produced the infamous Trump dossier alleging the existence of a "pee tape"—but that's not entirely true.


The FEC records found by The Federalist just connect Obama's campaign with Perkins Coie, which it was already known to do business with. In 2009, Obama appointed (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/13/AR2009111302143.html) Perkins Coie partner Bob Bauer to be White House counsel. In 2011, Perkins Coie attorney Judith Corley even traveled to Hawaii (http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/14529568/president-obamas-birth-certificate-delivers-news-to-doctors-family) to pick up copies of Obama's long-form birth certificate in a bid to prove that he was born in the U.S.

http://www.newsweek.com/trump-dossier-obama-clinton-funded-golden-shower-tape-696402

[Gunny]

http://www.newsweek.com/trump-dossier-obama-clinton-funded-golden-shower-tape-696402Somw questions for you, pete311 ... Don't think because I'm rubbing the Trumpy fur the wrong way doesn't mean I forgot YOU.

When is enough enough? And don't give me the usual bullshit one-liner. You act all philosophical and all-knowing one minute -- right until someone sticks a pin in our bubble -- then run and hide the next. Let's play the non-partisan fairness test here.

Hillary got busted cold using an unclassified/unsecure server for official US Gov't business. That's a felony(ies). Dog and pony show investigation wrapped up in time for her to run for President with no finding by a corrupt Obama Administration. Teapot Dome had nothing on Obama.

Hitlery gets caught with her pants down and people died at Bengazi. Negligence. Dereliction of duty. In competence. And had more excuses than Bigfoot has hair. Nothing.

They've been after Trump for how long? Even got potty pics from this dossier they paid for. Guess they got their money's worth. Been fishing for shark for year and your big A-HA! moment is you caught an irrelevant minnow. Is this the neverending quest by the Dems? Does it just never end?

At WHAT point do y'all just accept the fact you lost. Got the MSM, Hollyweird, Soros, the Clinton smear machine and The Dem smear machines and you LOST. You're wasting my fucking tax dollars.

[pete311]

Somw questions for you, @pete311 (http://www.debatepolicy.com/member.php?u=1821) ... Don't think because I'm rubbing the Trumpy fur the wrong way doesn't mean I forgot YOU.

When is enough enough? And don't give me the usual bullshit one-liner. You act all philosophical and all-knowing one minute -- right until someone sticks a pin in our bubble -- then run and hide the next. Let's play the non-partisan fairness test here.

Hillary got busted cold using an unclassified/unsecure server for official US Gov't business. That's a felony(ies). Dog and pony show investigation wrapped up in time for her to run for President with no finding by a corrupt Obama Administration. Teapot Dome had nothing on Obama.

Hitlery gets caught with her pants down and people died at Bengazi. Negligence. Dereliction of duty. In competence. And had more excuses than Bigfoot has hair. Nothing.

They've been after Trump for how long? Even got potty pics from this dossier they paid for. Guess they got their money's worth. Been fishing for shark for year and your big A-HA! moment is you caught an irrelevant minnow. Is this the neverending quest by the Dems? Does it just never end?

At WHAT point do y'all just accept the fact you lost. Got the MSM, Hollyweird, Soros, the Clinton smear machine and The Dem smear machines and you LOST. You're wasting my fucking tax dollars.

You seem to think I have any power over what happens in Washington. Thanks for your opinions. Have a good night!

[Gunny]

You seem to think I have any power over what happens in Washington. Thanks for your opinions. Have a good night!Not a very good dodge. I think you are the spokesman for the loony left on DP. Gabby's actually more intelligent at times but she's more of a drive-by artist.

Now for one who is quick to act like every conservative/Republican on the board agrees with each and every thing Trump and/or the current Congress does, just take your medicine. Besides, YOU have stated on many an occasion in multiple threads that you supported the investigation.

Do the DNC know how quickly you threw them under the bus? Or is that just common practice to be expected?:laugh:

[aboutime]

You seem to think I have any power over what happens in Washington. Thanks for your opinions. Have a good night!



petey. We don't have to think that about you. Liberal, Democrat Robots like yourself, programmed to repeat DNC talking points, buried in liberal hatred for the Truth, and Honest facts you deny...tells us you have LESS intelligence, or ability to have any kind of power....even over yourself.
Your hypocrisy, built on misinformation as dictated by your Liberal Lying Heros is all the more obvious, every time you pretend to sound even close to being smart.

[pete311]

Will Clovis flip on Sessions?

Top Trump Campaign Aide Clovis Spoke to Mueller Team, Grand Jury
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/amp/top-trump-campaign-aide-clovis-spoke-mueller-team-grand-jury-n816106

[aboutime]

Will Clovis flip on Sessions?

Top Trump Campaign Aide Clovis Spoke to Mueller Team, Grand Jury
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/amp/top-trump-campaign-aide-clovis-spoke-mueller-team-grand-jury-n816106


Typical liberal petey....again. And you see nothing wrong with the disclosure of SECRET information being leaked from a Grand Jury? How Obama of you.

[Black Diamond]

Typical liberal petey....again. And you see nothing wrong with the disclosure of SECRET information being leaked from a Grand Jury? How Obama of you.
He had no problem with Hillary. Kinda fits.

[pete311]

Typical liberal petey....again. And you see nothing wrong with the disclosure of SECRET information being leaked from a Grand Jury? How Obama of you.

What I think means nothing. That is what you guys seem to not get here. This stuff moves on no matter what anyone of us thinks. I don't control any of it.

[aboutime]

What I think means nothing. That is what you guys seem to not get here. This stuff moves on no matter what anyone of us thinks. I don't control any of it.


SURE THING PETEY. That's what all of us have been trying to tell you since you first dropped your Liberal, Hatred here for the rest of us to laugh at every day.

Besides, as you describe your purpose here....why not simply stop coming here to tell us what you think means nothing. We get it. YOU DON'T!

[Gunny]

What I think means nothing. That is what you guys seem to not get here. This stuff moves on no matter what anyone of us thinks. I don't control any of it.Here's what YOU don't get: We ALL have opinions. We don't ALL run from them when someone turns up the burner. You posted your disclaimer, THEN popped in a little quip about some aide rolling over, then hopped back on your disclaimer. It's called peanut gallery cheap shotting. If you got something to say, then back it up.