WaPo: Clinton Campaign and DNC Paid For Dossier

[Kathianne]

anyone surprised?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/clinton-campaign-dnc-paid-for-research-that-led-to-russia-dossier/2017/10/24/226fabf0-b8e4-11e7-a908-a3470754bbb9_story.html?tid=sm_tw&utm_term=.3de92700c33b


Clinton campaign, DNC paid for research that led to Russia dossier
By Adam Entous (https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/adam-entous/), Devlin Barrett (https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/devlin-barrett) and Rosalind S. Helderman (https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/rosalind-s-helderman/) October 24 at 7:21 PM





The Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee helped fund research that resulted in a now-famous dossier containing allegations about President Trump’s connections to Russia and possible coordination between his campaign and the Kremlin, people familiar with the matter said.


Marc E. Elias, a lawyer representing the Clinton campaign and the DNC, retained Fusion GPS, a Washington firm, to conduct the research.


After that, Fusion GPS hired dossier author Christopher Steele, a former British intelligence officer with ties to the FBI and the U.S. intelligence community, according to those people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.


Elias and his law firm, Perkins Coie, retained the firm in April 2016 on behalf of the Clinton campaign and the DNC. Before that agreement, Fusion GPS’s research into Trump was funded by a still unknown Republican client during the GOP primary.


The Clinton campaign and the DNC, through the law firm, continued to fund Fusion GPS’s research through the end of October 2016, days before Election Day.

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[pete311]

So... WaPo is not fake news now?

[Kathianne]

So... WaPo is not fake news now?

Ha. I said that when?

[aboutime]

I don't trust the WAPO any more than I can trust CNN. I need to hear it from a reliable, known, honest source.
It could be a hint that the WAPO is hurting so badly with circulation, and online advertising that they FINALLY SAW THE LIGHT...and are trying, or experimenting with the TRUTH for a change.

Otherwise...I will wait. Unlike petey. I suspect, most of us already knew WHO paid for the Russian Dosier.

[Black Diamond]

So... WaPo is not fake news now?
Are you ready to neg Kath again?

[Bilgerat]

anyone surprised?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/clinton-campaign-dnc-paid-for-research-that-led-to-russia-dossier/2017/10/24/226fabf0-b8e4-11e7-a908-a3470754bbb9_story.html?tid=sm_tw&utm_term=.3de92700c33b


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[NightTrain]

LOL! Ahhhh Schadenfreude.


I knew Hellary and the DNC were behind it, I think every person here knew it. It's nice to have it out in the open, though.


The DNC isn't even trying to deny it :


“Tom Perez and the new leadership of the DNC were not involved in any decision-making regarding Fusion GPS, nor were they aware that Perkins Coie was working with the organization," DNC Communications Director Xochitl Hinojosa said in a statement following the report's publication.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/24/clinton-campaign-dnc-helped-fund-research-that-led-to-salacious-trump-dossier-report-says.html

DNC : Whoops! Yeah, you caught us. But it was the old DNC crew that did that naughty stuff.

Looking forward to Hellary, Huma and Podesta's excuses.

[NightTrain]

What I'm more curious about more than anything is who the Republican was that started the ball rolling with Fusion before Hellary & DNC ran with it.

I have a hunch it was Kasich. Possibly Bush, but I'm leaning toward Kasich.
Whoever it is, they're huddling with an expensive PR team right now trying to get ahead of the cannonball headed their way shortly. :popcorn:

[pete311]

Just want to point out anonymous sources are used. No one cares now? Huh, interesting.

[darin]

So... WaPo is not fake news now?

SeattleTimes reporting that too.

[NightTrain]

Just want to point out anonymous sources are used. No one cares now? Huh, interesting.


When the DNC admits within a couple hours of the story breaking that it was them, then no. No one cares.

This whole Russia thing is about to bite you moonbats in your asses hard and you totally deserve it. How many warrants and investigations have been cooked up based at least partially on the bogus dossier that you guys created in the first place? More than a few, and it's quite interesting that Mueller's attention has turned to Bill/Hellary/Podesta/0bama and the Uranium scandal bribery.

Russia indeed.

Thank you, Democrats. This fallout will REALLY help you guys in 2018 and beyond.

[jimnyc]

So... WaPo is not fake news now?

That was never Kathianne, who started this thread. I am the one who got angry and mostly condemned them, along with CNN, rightfully when they were both busted and admitted to lies being used. I'll question anything they write, and verify 2x before I would believe it or post things to share. I still feel this way - trust and verify. Or better yet - do not trust them and then verify.


Just want to point out anonymous sources are used. No one cares now? Huh, interesting.

What specific claims are being made, that is controversial and needs support, and was being made because of anonymous sources? I too would question that, or at least verify certain facts - which I've done here and I don't see any crazy revelations that need backing up. DNC spokesman replied and distanced themselves from it, but not once was anything denied. A lot of information - it states - comes from an email sent by a lawyer from 'Perkins Coie'.

What is written, or being discussed here, that you think needs more questioning as a result of anonymous sources?

Are you truly wanting to know about these anonymous sources, and claims made and the truth behind it?

Or are you tossing out these 2 questions, just because of prior comments, and now trying to reverse it somehow? A small trolling of sorts? :)

I go with door #2.

[jimnyc]

More news...

FEC complaint accuses Clinton campaign, DNC of violating campaign finance law with dossier payments

Hillary Clinton’s campaign and the Democratic National Committee violated campaign finance law by failing to disclose payments for a dossier on Donald Trump, according to a complaint filed Wednesday with the Federal Election Commission.

The complaint from the nonprofit Campaign Legal Center said the Democrats effectively hid the payments from public scrutiny, contrary to the requirements of federal law. By law, campaign and party committees must disclose the reason money is spent and its recipient.

“By filing misleading reports, the DNC and Clinton campaign undermined the vital public information role of campaign disclosures,” said Adav Noti, senior director of trial litigation and strategy at CLC and a former FEC official. “Voters need campaign disclosure laws to be enforced so they can hold candidates accountable for how they raise and spend money. The FEC must investigate this apparent violation and take appropriate action.”

Media reports on Tuesday alleged that a lawyer for the Clinton campaign hired Fusion GPS to investigate Mr. Trump in April 2016. The private research firm reportedly hired Christopher Steele, a former British spy with ties to the FBI, to conduct the opposition research, and he compiled a dossier containing allegations about Mr. Trump’s connections to Russia.

Rest - https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/oct/25/fec-complaint-accuses-clinton-dnc-violations/

[jimnyc]

FLASHBACK: HOW THE MEDIA WENT HYSTERICAL OVER DON JR.’S WILLINGNESS TO ACCEPT RUSSIAN DIRT ON HILLARY

The Washington Post's blockbuster report that the Hillary Clinton campaign, in partnership with the DNC, hired the firm that utilized gossip from various unnamed Russian government officials to create the so-called Trump Dossier, marks a key turning point into the investigation into Russia's attempts at influencing American politics.

The DNC not only accepted this second-hand, uncorroborated information, but actually sought it out, financed it, and disseminated it through Washington.

Now rewind the clock to July, after The New York Times reported that Donald Trump Jr. had been approached by a mysterious Russian lawyer with an offer of dirt on Hillary Clinton.

Trump Jr. accepted the meeting but by all accounts, the lawyer had misrepresented her intent, and no anti-Hillary intel was exchanged.

Nonetheless, the media and many prominent Democrats fell fit into a fit of hysteria.

Trump Jr. was quickly accused "treason" and "colluding" with a hostile actor. Some said he would certainly be going to jail.

CNN's Jake Tapper said, "It’s rather momentous: This can’t just be — this can’t be dismissed as people out to get Donald J. Trump Jr. or fake news. This is evidence of willingness to commit collusion.”

The former chairwoman of the DNC, Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, said the meeting fits the definition of collusion.

"Clearly, what we learned today is that the president’s son, his namesake, a senior advisor and someone who was in the top tier of the Trump campaign colluded, which is the classic dictionary definition of what that means," Wasserman Schultz said. "There is no question what Donald Trump Jr. agreed to do -- with relish, I might add -- is meet with a lawyer who he believed was affiliated with the Russian government to assist his father’s campaign and collect dirt on Hillary Clinton. If that is not the definition of collusion, I don’t know what is."

Rest - https://news.grabien.com/story-flashback-how-media-went-hysterical-over-don-jrs-willingness

[Black Diamond]

Tapper is a rather momentous ass clown.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

Are you ready to neg Kath again?
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[High_Plains_Drifter]

What I'm more curious about more than anything is who the Republican was that started the ball rolling with Fusion before Hellary & DNC ran with it.

I have a hunch it was Kasich. Possibly Bush, but I'm leaning toward Kasich.
Whoever it is, they're huddling with an expensive PR team right now trying to get ahead of the cannonball headed their way shortly. :popcorn:
My money is on McLame. He's the one that paid for a private plane and sent someone to Europe to retrieve the garbage.

[NightTrain]

My money is on McLame. He's the one that paid for a private plane and sent someone to Europe to retrieve the garbage.


I thought about that, and I don't think it was McCain.

Remember he was handed the dossier, read it, couldn't really make heads or tails of it, so he forwarded it to Comey. Thus, he was an unwitting stooge in all this and it was part of the devious plan by Hellary / DNC to muddy the water as to the origin. It immediately would have looked very suspicious if any democrat or the Hellary campaign gave it to the FBI.

The kicker is that Comey was well aware of it already. Turns out that the FBI was also lining up to pay Fusion / Steele for the info, and that needs to be investigated pronto.

McCain is a NeverTrumper and he could be relied upon to do exactly what he did : assist in publicly delivering cooked up bullshit to the FBI in order to bog down Trump with this Russia stuff that the democrats created.

It begs the question - did he know this mysterious dossier was bogus but assisted it anyway? I think it's possible. He's been in politics for decades and should have smelled a rat from the outset.

That makes him one of two things : either he's enthusiastically helping the moonbats try to sabotage this administration, or he's completely incompetent and should be no where near Washington. I think the latter is true, and that he's a bumbling idiot that's easily manipulated into working for the enemy.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

I thought about that, and I don't think it was McCain.

Remember he was handed the dossier, read it, couldn't really make heads or tails of it, so he forwarded it to Comey. Thus, he was an unwitting stooge in all this and it was part of the devious plan by Hellary / DNC to muddy the water as to the origin. It immediately would have looked very suspicious if any democrat or the Hellary campaign gave it to the FBI.

The kicker is that Comey was well aware of it already. Turns out that the FBI was also lining up to pay Fusion / Steele for the info, and that needs to be investigated pronto.

McCain is a NeverTrumper and he could be relied upon to do exactly what he did : assist in publicly delivering cooked up bullshit to the FBI in order to bog down Trump with this Russia stuff that the democrats created.

It begs the question - did he know this mysterious dossier was bogus but assisted it anyway? I think it's possible. He's been in politics for decades and should have smelled a rat from the outset.

That makes him one of two things : either he's enthusiastically helping the moonbats try to sabotage this administration, or he's completely incompetent and should be no where near Washington. I think the latter is true, and that he's a bumbling idiot that's easily manipulated into working for the enemy.
True, and the fake smear document sat around Washington for months, until someone at Buzzfeed decided to publish it with the excuse that they thought everyone should know about it, even though they knew it was all unsubstantiated, then that opened the flood gate for ALL the leftist propaganda wing to report on it because they could use the excuse that they were reporting on what BUZZFEED had said, and not the fake smear document.

I'm not holding my breath, but I hope heads roll, and I mean all the way up to Barry. That muslim twit is every bit as involved with all this and Uranium One as anyone.

[Kathianne]

NightTrain this pretty much sums up my feelings about the 'Russian Thing' which is likely to add to the cynicism:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-met-trump-dossier-clinton-kass-1026-story.html

[NightTrain]

@NightTrain (http://www.debatepolicy.com/member.php?u=89) this pretty much sums up my feelings about the 'Russian Thing' which is likely to add to the cynicism:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-met-trump-dossier-clinton-kass-1026-story.html



That's a great article.

The only 2 items I disagree with are these :


And Republicans demand — what else? — more congressional investigations, as if we don’t have enough already.

You damn right, John Kass. I expect and demand that there are investigations and the guilty punished harshly.

This lawlessness with overlooking blatant illegal activity has to stop. I want indictments, jail time and crushing financial fines to every single corrupt sonofabitch and organization involved.

And I want it yesterday.



President Donald Trump, like a Visigoth on the throne of empire, thumps his chest and claims vindication, while branding anything he doesn’t like to read as “fake news.”

It was fake news! Trump called a spade a spade - oh, the horror!

This guy does a great job but then can't help himself with that snarky, unsubstantiated line. This is the problem - if Kass had looked impartially on the events and reactions of those underhanded events, he would conclude that it was completely reasonable to lash out and fight back.

Righteous self defense is not unethical. Rather, it is to be admired.

Only a coward would not fight back when maligned. And no one can possibly claim Trump has not been the victim of a coordinated, widespread all-out effort to malign him.

[jimnyc]

Clinton’s collusion: Who will investigate the new Russia scandal?

After more than a year of lying denials, Hillary Clinton’s campaign and the Democratic National Committee now stand exposed as the funders of that salacious dossier alleging years of collusion between the Kremlin and Donald Trump.

The FBI stands exposed, too — as having agreed to keep paying for the same research after Trump was elected.

All of which raises lots of disturbing questions, plus the possibility that if anyone colluded with Moscow, it was Team Hillary.
The Washington Post reported that Clinton and the DNC paid millions to a DC law firm, Perkins Coie, which in turn hired Fusion GPS to investigate Trump.

Fusion GPS then hired Christopher Steele, a former British intelligence officer who compiled the 35-page dossier containing information he claimed came from Russian government and intel officials.

But Fusion has its own Kremlin ties, having done paid work to try to reverse the sanctions imposed in the Magnitsky Act, named for a Russian whistleblower tortured and killed in Moscow — work that allegedly included smear campaigns against Magnitsky and Bill Browder, his top champion in the West.

Rest - http://nypost.com/2017/10/25/clintons-collusion-who-will-investigate-the-new-russia-scandal/

[Black Diamond]

be quite the twist if Obama and/or Hillary were indicted.

[aboutime]

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