Hillary To Rename The Oval Office!

[nevadamedic]

It was just announced by Her campaign manager Terry McAuliffe that if Senator Clinton gets elected President that she will rename The Oval Office. The new name that she has come up with is The Ovarian Office. Also in the same press release Senator Clinton said when she get's elected as President that she wants the public to adress former President Bill Clinton as First Lady Clinton or Madam President.

[Gunny]

It was just announced by Her campaign manager Terry McAuliffe that if Senator Clinton gets elected President that she will rename The Oval Office. The new name that she has come up with is The Ovarian Office. Also in the same press release Senator Clinton said when she get's elected as President that she wants the public to adress former President Bill Clinton as First Lady Clinton or Madam President.

This is serious political discussion?

[red states rule]

It was just announced by Her campaign manager Terry McAuliffe that if Senator Clinton gets elected President that she will rename The Oval Office. The new name that she has come up with is The Ovarian Office. Also in the same press release Senator Clinton said when she get's elected as President that she wants the public to adress former President Bill Clinton as First Lady Clinton or Madam President.

Since she will not be elected, there is nothing to worry about

[Gunny]

Since she will not be elected, there is nothing to worry about

If enough morons vote for Guiliani and split the GOP she will be.

[red states rule]

If enough morons vote for Guiliani and split the GOP she will be.

Only if enough idiots have a temper tanturm, and stay home because Rudy is the nominee, will Hillary be able to win

[Gunny]

Only if enough idiots have a temper tanturm, and stay home because Rudy is the nominee, will Hillary be able to win

Not voting for a liberal has nothing to do with "having a temper tantrum." Only a closet liberal will vote for another closet liberal.

[red states rule]

Not voting for a liberal has nothing to do with "having a temper tantrum." Only a closet liberal will vote for another closet liberal.

Yea, you do resemble that remark. Take you ball and go home - Then blame others if Hillary is elected

Given Rudy's entire record in NY - he is far from a liberal.

[Gunny]

Yea, you do resemble that remark. Take you ball and go home - Then blame others if Hillary is elected

Given Rudy's entire record in NY - he is far from a liberal.

He's a fucking liberal. Pro-abortion, gun control = liberal. period.

I'm not "taking my ball and going home." I'm going to vote for the best candidate. He ain't it.

[red states rule]

He's a fucking liberal. Pro-abortion, gun control = liberal. period.

I'm not "taking my ball and going home." I'm going to vote for the best candidate. He ain't it.

Screaming he is a liberal will not make him so

If it is Rudy VS Hillary, will you vote for Rudy or stay home?

[Gunny]

Screaming he is a liberal will not make him so

If it is Rudy VS Hillary, will you vote for Rudy or stay home?

It won't be, so the question is moot.

[red states rule]

It won't be, so the question is moot.

OK MM Jr - whatever you say

[truthmatters]

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[Gunny]

OK MM Jr - whatever you say

Those on the right who actually believe in conservative idealism aren't going to vote for a liberal. Dumbasses like YOU who keep trying to put lipstick in a pig and pass it off as Marilyn Monroe need to figure that out.

It's going to split the GOP, and put Clinton in the White House. And it WILL be your fault for trying to push a fucking liberal off as a conservative.

[red states rule]

Rudy is NO liberal.

Hes all yours.

He is however a corrupt Neocon sleasebag just as bad as Bush.

Why do you people ignore the ONLY real conservitive you have running?

Ron Paul.

Rudy has a long list of great acccomplishments - Hillary has only her last name

[red states rule]

Those on the right who actually believe in conservative idealism aren't going to vote for a liberal. Dumbasses like YOU who keep trying to put lipstick in a pig and pass it off as Marilyn Monroe need to figure that out.

It's going to split the GOP, and put Clinton in the White House. And it WILL be your fault for trying to push a fucking liberal off as a conservative.

So becuase you have a temper tauntrum, sulk at home on Election Day, you will blame others if the libs win in 08?

Sounds like a fucking liberal making excuses to me

[Gunny]

So becuase you have a temper tauntrum, sulk at home on Election Day, you will blame others if the libs win in 08?

Sounds like a fucking liberal making excuses to me

Trying to defelct from the fact you are trying to push a liberal as a conservative and blame conservatives for actually believing in their political ideology?

You're so fucking lame ... besides being just flat-out hitchpost stupid.

[red states rule]

Trying to defelct from the fact you are trying to push a liberal as a conservative and blame conservatives for actually believing in their political ideology?

You're so fucking lame ... besides being just flat-out hitchpost stupid.

I posted all of Rudys acomplishments _ you had a fit over them on the other board - they are far from being liberal

You are such a fucking blowhard that the facts can't get throught to your BB size brain

[Gunny]

I posted all of Rudys acomplishments _ you had a fit over them on the other board - they are far from being liberal

You are such a fucking blowhard that the facts can't get throught to your BB size brain

He's a fucking closet liberal, just like you. And blinding yourself to the truth is just another of your liberal traits. Hypocrite.

[red states rule]

He's a fucking closet liberal, just like you. And blinding yourself to the truth is just another of your liberal traits. Hypocrite.

Ok Blowhard, does this look like a lib's accomplishments?

Here is Rudy's accomplishments

Through robust policing, Giuliani drove overall crime down 56.1 percent, while chopping homicides 66.6 percent, from 1,946 in 1993 to 649 in 2001.

Following national trends, abortions on Giuliani’s watch dropped 16.9 percent, while taxpayer-funded Medicaid abortions plunged 23 percent.

Gotham’s foster-care population fell 38 percent as Giuliani helped loving families adopt 17,804 boys and girls.

By fighting fraud and finding work for legitimate beneficiaries, Giuliani cut welfare rolls 58 percent, starting two years before federal welfare reform. Giuliani renamed welfare offices “Job Centers.”

Giuliani privatized 23,625 previously confiscated, city-owned dwellings, 78 percent of supply, benefiting family and individual homeowners and tenants.

Giuliani dumped Gotham’s 20 percent set-aside and 10 percent overbid bonus for minority and female contractors. “The whole idea of quotas to me perpetuates discrimination,” he explained. He initiated this on his 24th day in office, far exceeding any colorblindness legislation Congress even debated during the 12-year “Republican Revolution.”

Giuliani’s $10 million Charter School Improvement Fund helped 3,286 pupils in 17 new charter schools, up from $0 and zero campuses in 1997. He ended tenure for school principals, so slackers could be sacked. He also stopped social promotion; students needed to complete grade-level work to matriculate.

Ex-pornography mecca Times Square now welcomes families, tourists and locals for fully clothed musicals like “The Lion King” and “Mary Poppins

[Gunny]

Ok Blowhard, does this look like a lib's accomplishments?

Here is Rudy's accomplishments

Through robust policing, Giuliani drove overall crime down 56.1 percent, while chopping homicides 66.6 percent, from 1,946 in 1993 to 649 in 2001.

Following national trends, abortions on Giuliani’s watch dropped 16.9 percent, while taxpayer-funded Medicaid abortions plunged 23 percent.

Gotham’s foster-care population fell 38 percent as Giuliani helped loving families adopt 17,804 boys and girls.

By fighting fraud and finding work for legitimate beneficiaries, Giuliani cut welfare rolls 58 percent, starting two years before federal welfare reform. Giuliani renamed welfare offices “Job Centers.”

Giuliani privatized 23,625 previously confiscated, city-owned dwellings, 78 percent of supply, benefiting family and individual homeowners and tenants.

Giuliani dumped Gotham’s 20 percent set-aside and 10 percent overbid bonus for minority and female contractors. “The whole idea of quotas to me perpetuates discrimination,” he explained. He initiated this on his 24th day in office, far exceeding any colorblindness legislation Congress even debated during the 12-year “Republican Revolution.”

Giuliani’s $10 million Charter School Improvement Fund helped 3,286 pupils in 17 new charter schools, up from $0 and zero campuses in 1997. He ended tenure for school principals, so slackers could be sacked. He also stopped social promotion; students needed to complete grade-level work to matriculate.

Ex-pornography mecca Times Square now welcomes families, tourists and locals for fully clothed musicals like “The Lion King” and “Mary Poppins

He's pro-gun-control jackass. And pro-choice. Explain to me how those are conservative traits?

[red states rule]

He's pro-gun-control jackass. And pro-choice. Explain to me how those are conservative traits?

Unlike a lib, he will not impose his views on America.

[Gunny]

Unlike a lib, he will not impose his views on America.

Right. GMAFB. You ARE as dumb as you look.

[red states rule]

Right. GMAFB. You ARE as dumb as you look.

Like MM you ignore the facts and alow your hate and rage to take over you pea brain and motor mouth

[Gunny]

Like MM you ignore the facts and alow your hate and rage to take over you pea brain and motor mouth

The only one ignoring facts here is you, lameass. Guiliani is not a conservative, and you just ignore it for whatever screwball reasoning is rattling around in your otherwise empty grape.

And I don't hate you RSR ... I look at you the same as I do dogshit in my yard. No purpose to it at all.

[red states rule]

The only one ignoring facts here is you, lameass. Guiliani is not a conservative, and you just ignore it for whatever screwball reasoning is rattling around in your otherwise empty grape.

And I don't hate you RSR ... I look at you the same as I do dogshit in my yard. No purpose to it at all.

So his conservative acomplishments went over your pointy head - no surprise

You are the dogshirt here Gomer

You will either dry up and blow away, someone will step on you, or you will get scraped off the ground

[Guernicaa]

Yeah I'd like to know why this got put in "US Political Discussion"...

And red I would just stop while you're ahead because you have no argument.
Giuliani is quite liberal compared to the average Republican considering that he:

-Favors gay rights
-Is pro-choice
-Wants American to become energy independent (Obviously sees global warming as a problem)
-Wants a timetable for withdrawl from Iraq

[Gunny]

So his conservative acomplishments went over your pointy head - no surprise

You are the dogshirt here Gomer

You will either dry up and blow away, someone will step on you, or you will get scraped off the ground

Odds are that will happen to your useless old ass long before it does me. One of these days you're going to be a little late with the Friskies and one of those cats is going to do the world a favor and slit your throat.

[red states rule]

Yeah I'd like to know why this got put in "US Political Discussion"...

And red I would just stop while you're ahead because you have no argument.
Giuliani is quite liberal compared to the average Republican considering that he:

-Favors gay rights
-Is pro-choice
-Wants American to become energy independent (Obviously sees global warming as a problem)
-Wants a timetable for withdrawl from Iraq

Post #19 goes against you

But facts usually goes against the liberal talking points

[red states rule]

Odds are that will happen to your useless old ass long before it does me. One of these days you're going to be a little late with the Friskies and one of those cats is going to do the world a favor and slit your throat.

All that hot air coming out of your blowhole would help save some energy. Go cry on Shittered's shoulder - but take a bottle of Febreze with you to help keep your empty head clear

[Guernicaa]

Post #19 goes against you

But facts usually goes against the liberal talking points
No it doesn't.
I suggest you actually read the articles you post up.

[Gunny]

All that hot air coming out of your blowhole would help save some energy. Go cry on Shittered's shoulder - but take a bottle of Febreze with you to help keep your empty head clear

You obviously need to brush up on your wit. I realize that would be hard, brushing up something nonexistent, but i have faith in you excelling at pointlessness.

[nevadamedic]

Rudy is NO liberal.

Hes all yours.

He is however a corrupt Neocon sleasebag just as bad as Bush.

Why do you people ignore the ONLY real conservitive you have running?

Ron Paul.

:lol: Thanks I needed a good laugh. Ron Paul isn't a Conservative.

[red states rule]

:lol: Thanks I needed a good laugh. Ron Paul isn't a Conservative.

While Ron Paul is a nut - Rudy is not a liberal

[nevadamedic]

Rudy has a long list of great acccomplishments - Hillary has only her last name

I wouldn't call her last name or anything affiliated with Slick Willy an accomplishment, more like a burden.

What do you get when you mix a bad polititian and a bad lawyer?

Chelsea :laugh2:

[Gunny]

:lol: Thanks I needed a good laugh. Ron Paul isn't a Conservative.

You just prove my point that you don't have any business on a political message board. Ron Paul is most certainly a conservative, and WAY moreso than Guiliani.

[red states rule]

You just prove my point that you don't have any business on a political message board. Ron Paul is most certainly a conservative, and WAY moreso than Guiliani.

and your knowldege of politics would fit in a thimble - or as soon as your girl tells you what to say

[nevadamedic]

People tend to forget that Rudy's Adoption program that he got through in New York drastically cut the Abortion rate. He set that program up as an alternative to abortion. He personally believes abortion is wrong but he believes in it's a womans body, it's her choice.

[red states rule]

People tend to forget that Rudy's Adoption program that he got through in New York drastically cut the Abortion rate. He set that program up as an alternative to abortion. He personally believes abortion is wrong but he believes in it's a womans body, it's her choice.

and unlike the libs, he is not pushing his views on the rest of us - as Hillary would do

[nevadamedic]

You just prove my point that you don't have any business on a political message board. Ron Paul is most certainly a conservative, and WAY moreso than Guiliani.

He is more of a Libertarian then anything. Just because someone who agree with one or two things that someone from the opposite party believes in doesn't make them a member of the opposite party. Every Candidate has trates that are traits of the other Political Party.

[nevadamedic]

and unlike the libs, he is not pushing his views on the rest of us - as Hillary would do

He wouldn't push it on anyone as he feel's that Abortion is morally wrong.

[red states rule]

He wouldn't push it on anyone as he feel's that Abortion is morally wrong.

Rudy is not a lib - and he would not do it anyway

[Gunny]

and your knowldege of politics would fit in a thimble - or as soon as your girl tells you what to say

That "thimble" is an ocean in comparison to your even comprehending the simple shit ... like the difference between a lib and a conservative.

[red states rule]

That "thimble" is an ocean in comparison to your even comprehending the simple shit ... like the difference between a lib and a conservative.

MM Jr and his huge ego speaks - and nobody listens

[Gunny]

MM Jr and his huge ego speaks - and nobody listens

Except the one complete waste of sperm that keeps replying.

[red states rule]

Except the one complete waste of sperm that keeps replying.

for comic relief purposes only

[Gunny]

for comic relief purposes only

Hate to point this out to you, but you're about as funny as Hillary.

[red states rule]

Hate to point this out to you, but you're about as funny as Hillary.

You on the other hand, are as entertaining, and as wonderful, as a train wreck

Which is what happens everytime you post your bullshit

[Gunny]

You on the other hand, are as entertaining, and as wonderful, as a train wreck

Which is what happens everytime you post your bullshit

*yawn*

[red states rule]

*yawn*

took all your powers of reasoning to come up with that one

[Gunny]

took all your powers of reasoning to come up with that one

It's way more effort than you are worth, that's for sure.

[red states rule]

It's way more effort than you are worth, that's for sure.

Then stop responding - it would help clear the air of your worthless crap

[Gunny]

Then stop responding - it would help clear the air of your worthless crap

Wow. The most worthless person on two boards combined has the nerve to even utter the word.

Simply amazing.

[truthmatters]

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[Gunny]

The onlyu real conservitive in this fight is Ron Paul.

The fact that none of you support him says alot about what you really believe.

Coming from you, I'm sure there'll be a rush to reexamine beliefs bt every conservative on the board.:rolleyes:

[red states rule]

Wow. The most worthless person on two boards combined has the nerve to even utter the word.

Simply amazing.

Well then , shut the funk up and make us all happy

[Gunny]

Well then , shut the funk up and make us all happy

Long as you exist, I won't shut up. You're a disgrace to conservatives, and make us all look bad with your rhetorical, one-line drivel.

[red states rule]

Long as you exist, I won't shut up. You're a disgrace to conservatives, and make us all look bad with your rhetorical, one-line drivel.

You a conservative? :lol:

[KarlMarx]

I can think of a few names I'd like to call Hillary Clinton...

the problem is I'd probably violate a few obscenity laws if I posted them here....

but the one I wish I could address her as is "inmate at Fort Leavenworth"...

Hillary Clinton is nothing but a power hungry, lying, onerous person who will do just about anything to get what she wants. She has nothing but contempt for the average person... frankly, I don't know how anyone can consider her for anything more than a street sweeper, let alone the leader of the free world. She has arrived at this point because she slept with the right guy... Bill Clinton and put up with his crap for all these years. The only person Hillary Clinton loves is the person she sees in the mirror in the morning. She should have been an actress because she has played so many parts so well and convinced many that she is something she just simply isn't.... not the least of which is long suffering wife....

The people who support Hillary Clinton are being fooled and I'm sorry to say, I also believe they WANT to be fooled.

A pair of ovaries does not qualify a person for any sort of job, except surrogate mother. Many people think she'll make a great president just because of her plumbing... wow.... if that were the case, I think I can name a lot of other women who are more deserving.

[red states rule]

I can think of a few names I'd like to call Hillary Clinton...

the problem is I'd probably violate a few obscenity laws if I posted them here....

but the one I wish I could address her as is "inmate at Fort Leavenworth"...

Hillary Clinton is nothing but a power hungry, lying, onerous person who will do just about anything to get what she wants. She has nothing but contempt for the average person... frankly, I don't know how anyone can consider her for anything more than a street sweeper, let alone the leader of the free world. She has arrived at this point because she slept with the right guy... Bill Clinton and put up with his crap for all these years. The only person Hillary Clinton loves is the person she sees in the mirror in the morning. She should have been an actress because she has played so many parts so well and convinced many that she is something she just simply isn't.... not the least of which is long suffering wife....

The people who support Hillary Clinton are being fooled and I'm sorry to say, I also believe they WANT to be fooled.

A pair of ovaries does not qualify a person for any sort of job, except surrogate mother. Many people think she'll make a great president just because of her plumbing... wow.... if that were the case, I think I can name a lot of other women who are more deserving.

Not everyone is fooled by Hillary. Check out post #14 and click on the link to see a great picture

[red states rule]

August 11, 2007
Hillary Scares Me
By Kyle-Anne Shiver


Most especially as a woman, I have become more and more concerned that Hillary Rodham Clinton just might be elected as the first female President of the United States in 2008. And that possibility curls my hair, dangerously accelerates my heartbeat and sends shivers down my spine.

I have been following Hillary's "life" since she first made a blip on the national radar during the 1992 election. Back then, my own perception of her was that she was kind of pert, sort of pretty, and that she might even be slightly smarter than that absolutely charming husband of hers - the candidate. When I learned that she had her own Yale law degree and that they were being billed as the "two-for-one" presidency, I actually thought to myself that it might be a good deal for the taxpayers. Pay one President; get two. I do always try to give a new President - and First Lady - the benefit of the doubt, as due respect for our Republic and the electorate dictates.

But that was 15 years ago. In that time, I've read six biographies of Hillary (4admittedly unfavorable, 1 gushingly favorable, and 1 supposedly neutral). With such a preponderance of damning evidence against her already widely disseminated, it strikes me as more than a little strange that this woman is not in prison or a mental institution. That she has managed to remain not only free, but center-stage in the Democratic Party and a Senator from an "adopted" state is an indictment of our press and her Party. If she succeeds in lying and manipulating her way into the White House, it will be an indictment of us all.

Even Carl Bernstein admits (A Woman in Charge; Knopf; 2007; p. 554) that Mrs. Clinton is the human equivalent of a chameleon, changing her colors and her story to suit her audience:
"As Hillary has continued to speak from the protective shell of her own making, and packaged herself for the widest possible consumption, she has misrepresented not just facts but often her essential self." (emphasis mine)
In real life - as opposed to fairytales - misrepresenting facts is called "lying." Constantly changing yourself (and your "truth") according to the company you are in is called "a lack of integrity." A lack of integrity is considered by most normal folks to be a glaring character defect. Now, if even Carl Bernstein is able to admit that Hillary is a liar and has a substantial lack of integrity, why would we even elect her POTUS?

On the other hand, she is a Democrat, and unfortunately, it looks as though they are about to foist her upon the rest of us. William Saffire, in his 1/8/96 NYT editorial, "Blizzard of Lies," cut straight to the chase with a great deal of prescience, when he wrote:

"Americans of all political persuasions are coming to the sad realization that our First Lady (Hillary Rodham Clinton) - a woman of undoubted talents who was a role model for many in her generation - is a congenital liar."
So, let it be said from my all-female mouth now and on the record: If Hillary Clinton is elected as President of the United States, it will set the cause of any sort of feminism back for at least 250 years. Whether we like it or not, she will be the "ruler" by which future female candidates are measured. And she will be judged for the woman she is - not for the man she isn't.

So, just for a moment try to forget Travelgate (cronyism at its vile lowest), Whitewater (phony S&L scheme that cost taxpayers $4 million), campcon (FBI investigation into illegal Chinese government political contributions to Clintons and DNC), Monica-gate (don't even go there), and Pardongate (the final-hour pardons granted by the Clinton "Co-Presidency," including a host of Clinton & Rodham relatives, friends and big contributors). Just forget all about those little "problems" with Hillary's integrity, and think about some of the petty stuff.

Let's take the matter of her faith. You know, the faith that she says sustained her during Monica-gate. Now, I know a lot of Methodists with pretty strong beliefs in Jesus Christ. Yet, I don't believe I've ever heard any of them espousing the benefits of "channeling" the spirits of dead people for guidance. It was Bob Woodward (THE CHOICE) who revealed Hillary's desire to commune with Eleanor Roosevelt in this manner, and that new-age person of note, Jean Houston, facilitated the "conversation." So, when she says that her "faith" got her through "it," is she referring to her faith in God or her faith in Eleanor Roosevelt? Actually, Eleanor Roosevelt would know a thing or two about philandering husbands, but isn't Hillary, devout Methodist that she claims to be, aware that séances are deemed part of the occult (Satan's province) and strictly off-limits for Christians? Seems like a no-brainer to me. So, I'm not too impressed with those "faith" credentials.

Another thing that concerns me - again, this might be construed as petty - is how she has dealt with her husband, Bubba. According to every single book I have read on Mrs. Clinton, she was fully aware of his predilection for rampant promiscuity all the way through their relationship. During courtship. While they were living together out of wedlock. After they married and became the first couple of Arkansas. Through the Presidential elections of 1992 and 1996. Why, according to the volumes that have been written on this one subject alone, there was nary a soul in Arkansas political/business/legal circles that didn't know of the boy Governor's proclivities for "special encounters" with the opposite sex. Of course, Hillary knew; she's no idiot. Obviously, she knew and she didn't care. But she knew that we the public cared about the character - or lack thereof - of our President. So, she lied about not knowing.

And besides the bald-faced lying, here's what rubs me the wrong way. Hillary Clinton's thirst for power has been so great that she has knowingly trampled the feelings and rights of all the women she called "Bimbos," enabled an out-of-control man to escape due punishment, and now dares to play the long-suffering, loving wife with no thought to the real-life consequences borne by all the "other" women that litter the roadside of Bill Clinton's life.

This one issue alone invalidates any claim she ever had to the real Women's vote. Her cadre of elite feminist loyalists can clamor all they wish for solidarity of the "sisterhood," but I don't know a single woman over the age of 18 who is buying it. If Hillary Clinton gave one whit for the respectability of women, she would have trounced Billy boy a long, long, long, long time ago.

And why on earth would an educated electorate buy the simpleminded notion that a woman who cannot even stop a philandering husband from, well, philandering, could ever stop terrorists from, well, terrorizing? Surely, we are too smart to trust this woman with her little manicured finger on the "A-bomb" button.

If not, then we probably deserve what we will get from her. If you have real questions at this point about what that would be, get yourself a copy of Rules for Radicals, by the infamous Saul Alinsky, the left-wing guru of ethical relativity, an avowed means-justify-the-ends Marxist, who was the topic of Hillary's senior thesis at Wellesley. Don't bother trying to get a copy of her paper, though; it's sealed up, though a purported bootleg copy made it onto the web. I have been unable to verify if it is genuine.

I would give just about anything to be able - in good conscience - to vote for a woman for President. Just not this particular woman. She doesn't even know who she is anymore. How could she possibly know who we are? She thinks we are the means to her end. That's all her idea of "sisterhood" has ever been.

It's all about her. And only her.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/08/hillary_scares_me.html

[KarlMarx]

Rudy has a long list of great acccomplishments - Hillary has only her last name
That dog has more common sense than all the liberals I know... combined

[red states rule]

That dog has more common sense than all the liberals I know... combined

Animals are better judges of character then most humans

[glockmail]

If enough morons vote for Guiliani and split the GOP she will be.
Guiliani is likely to win the nomination. If so, you will vote for him. Or wake up hearing the words "President-elect Clinton" for a second time.

[red states rule]

Guiliani is likely to win the nomination. If so, you will vote for him. Or wake up hearing the words "President-elect Clinton" for a second time.

Hillary wil turn out alot of Republican voters

[OCA]

Yea, you do resemble that remark. Take you ball and go home - Then blame others if Hillary is elected

Given Rudy's entire record in NY - he is far from a liberal.

Rudy is a liberal Republican, no better than Arlen Specter.

[OCA]

Screaming he is a liberal will not make him so

If it is Rudy VS Hillary, will you vote for Rudy or stay home?

Why do you insist on avoiding the facts on Rudy the child killer's actual positions on issues?

[mrg666]

amazing !
you can turn a joke into a debate with flames gallore :laugh2:

[red states rule]

Rudy is a liberal Republican, no better than Arlen Specter.

If this is a "liberal" Republican - give me more

Through robust policing, Giuliani drove overall crime down 56.1 percent, while chopping homicides 66.6 percent, from 1,946 in 1993 to 649 in 2001.

Following national trends, abortions on Giuliani’s watch dropped 16.9 percent, while taxpayer-funded Medicaid abortions plunged 23 percent.

Gotham’s foster-care population fell 38 percent as Giuliani helped loving families adopt 17,804 boys and girls.

By fighting fraud and finding work for legitimate beneficiaries, Giuliani cut welfare rolls 58 percent, starting two years before federal welfare reform. Giuliani renamed welfare offices “Job Centers.”

Giuliani privatized 23,625 previously confiscated, city-owned dwellings, 78 percent of supply, benefiting family and individual homeowners and tenants.

Giuliani dumped Gotham’s 20 percent set-aside and 10 percent overbid bonus for minority and female contractors. “The whole idea of quotas to me perpetuates discrimination,” he explained. He initiated this on his 24th day in office, far exceeding any colorblindness legislation Congress even debated during the 12-year “Republican Revolution.”

Giuliani’s $10 million Charter School Improvement Fund helped 3,286 pupils in 17 new charter schools, up from $0 and zero campuses in 1997. He ended tenure for school principals, so slackers could be sacked. He also stopped social promotion; students needed to complete grade-level work to matriculate.

Ex-pornography mecca Times Square now welcomes families, tourists and locals for fully clothed musicals like “The Lion King” and “Mary Poppins

[red states rule]

Why do you insist on avoiding the facts on Rudy the child killer's actual positions on issues?

Not at all, I posted what he did in NY, and he turned the city around