CNN Admits Trump Campaign Was Wiretapped

[jimnyc]

I do recall the fury when Trump made his tweet. Much of the shit he he has stated has ultimately found to be the truth.

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CNN Admits Trump Campaign Was Wiretapped: Breitbart News and Mark Levin Right, Mainstream Media Wrong

CNN reported Monday evening that the U.S. government, under President Barack Obama, had wiretapped Donald Trump’s former campaign manager, Paul Manafort — both during after the 2016 presidential campaign.

https://i.imgur.com/dylYVO6.png

The report vindicates earlier reporting by conservative talk radio host Mark Levin, and by Breitbart News, which the entire mainstream media attempted to dismiss at the time as a “conspiracy theory” to mock Trump and to protect Obama.

The media pounced after President Trump tweeted on March 4: “Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my “wires tapped” in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!”

Rest - http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2017/09/18/wiretapped-cnn-admits-trump-campaign-breitbart-news-right-mainstream-media-wrong/

[pete311]

CNN didn't admit, they are just reporting news. Also Manafort was wiretapped (legally), not Trump. It's a BIG difference and one not to be abused. This should not be seen as some victory. When the FBI wiretaps someone it's because of some bad shit going down.

[jimnyc]

CNN didn't admit, they are just reporting news. Also Manafort was wiretapped (legally), not Trump. It's a BIG difference and one not to be abused.

Do you know for sure that Manafort was never speaking with Trump? As for the title, I didn't write it, so complain to someone else.

As for abuse, this on top of Rice getting busted lying about the 'unmasking', sounds like the Dem side was pretty busy.

[pete311]

Do you know for sure that Manafort was never speaking with Trump? As for the title, I didn't write it, so complain to someone else.

As for abuse, this on top of Rice getting busted lying about the 'unmasking', sounds like the Dem side was pretty busy.

It doesn't matter. People caught up in the wiretap aren't considered wiretapped. Manafort was the one wiretapped. End of story.

[jimnyc]

It doesn't matter. People caught up in the wiretap aren't considered wiretapped. Manafort was the one wiretapped. End of story.

Nope, not the end. It only vindicates Trump and shows what the Dems were up to prior to the election. Even CNN states it...

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Trump tweeted in March that phones in Trump Tower were wiretapped by President Barack Obama, a claim that was wholly denied by the Justice Department.

However, Brown explained why the new report could give Trump’s claims some validation.

“What is possible, Don, is that [Trump] was picked up on the Manafort surveillance and we should note that Manafort does have a residence in Trump Tower,” Brown explained to CNN host Don Lemon, “but it is not clear if the FBI did surveillance on him there.”

The new revelations may give some credence to Trump’s past claims of wiretapping.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/19/cnn-trump-may-have-been-part-of-manafort-wiretapping-video/

[pete311]

Jim, you know the FBI doesn't work for the dems right? Politics are everywhere yes, but seriously, if we have lost total trust in our intel community, I'm getting the fuck outta here. You only trust the intel community when a "republican" is in office? Tell me, do you think the wiretap on Manafort was unjustified?

[jimnyc]

Jim, you know the FBI doesn't work for the dems right? Politics are everywhere yes, but seriously, if we have lost total trust in our intel community, I'm getting the fuck outta here. You only trust the intel community when a "republican" is in office? Tell me, do you think the wiretap on Manafort was unjustified?

If you have watched the FBI, DOJ and other intel agencies in the past 2 years, you would know that they have hardly been acting without fault, and the DOJ has done quite a few questionable things. I wouldn't trust either as far as I can toss them. Fact is, PEOPLE in these agencies are political, and it's been proven.

I've said ALL along that I had no trust for them, regardless of "sides". I think something is fishy with Manafort, hence me saying awhile back that he would be the first one to fall if anything was wrong. I can easily believe that while FISA warrants and wiretaps like the above were justified, they can very easily be used for abuse. There were far too many "unmasking" for my liking - and then the LIES proves something was up. Same with this - WHY was there a need to lie?

You only see what you want to. I've been condemning our intel agencies for at least a year now. No longer trust them, nor the majority of the media.

[pete311]

If you have watched the FBI, DOJ and other intel agencies in the past 2 years, you would know that they have hardly been acting without fault, and the DOJ has done quite a few questionable things. I wouldn't trust either as far as I can toss them. Fact is, PEOPLE in these agencies are political, and it's been proven.

I've said ALL along that I had no trust for them, regardless of "sides". I think something is fishy with Manafort, hence me saying awhile back that he would be the first one to fall if anything was wrong. I can easily believe that while FISA warrants and wiretaps like the above were justified, they can very easily be used for abuse. There were far too many "unmasking" for my liking - and then the LIES proves something was up. Same with this - WHY was there a need to lie?

You only see what you want to. I've been condemning our intel agencies for at least a year now. No longer trust them, nor the majority of the media.

Curious how you live not being able to trust anything. How does the paranoia not take over? What in your opinion can be done to restore your faith in our intel agencies? Trump is the one person on earth you trust? Why?

[Kathianne]

Curious how you live not being able to trust anything. How does the paranoia not take over? What in your opinion can be done to restore your faith in our intel agencies? Trump is the one person on earth you trust? Why?

I don't trust Trump. I don't trust the FBI or DOJ either, because of 'rule of law.' They proved during the Obama years, along with the IRS that they are far from non-partisan and certainly not always working in the public interest.

Those departments actively worked to make the public not trust them, why?

[CSM]

I don't trust Trump. I don't trust the FBI or DOJ either, because of 'rule of law.' They proved during the Obama years, along with the IRS that they are far from non-partisan and certainly not always working in the public interest.

Those departments actively worked to make the public not trust them, why?

methinks some of us need to read up on J. Edgar Hoover... just sayin

[aboutime]

We must admit, finally; that everything related to, connected to, and everyone around OBAMA...has been tainted with Illegality, Ignorance, and Abuse of the Laws, and the Constitution.

Just like FOLLOW THE MONEY. If Obama is mentioned. Something Illegal took place.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

Trump tweets that Trump Tower was wire tapped.
The left has a complete melt down and calls Trump a liar.
Manafort has apartment in Trump Tower.
Manafort was wire tapped.

What do we learn from that?

That president Trump was right again, and now the left, once again, is in full damage control mode eating crow.

[jimnyc]

Curious how you live not being able to trust anything. How does the paranoia not take over? What in your opinion can be done to restore your faith in our intel agencies? Trump is the one person on earth you trust? Why?

I live just fine. I'm just not an idiot that takes everything at face value. I question things. I'm not naive and I see when there is wrongdoing. I don't bury my head in the sand when things come up over and over to show the shit and shenanigans from our intel agencies at times - ok, individuals working for said agencies at times. This isn't a theory, this is factual about both the FBI and the DOJ, unless you refuse to open your eyes.

What can restore my faith? I suppose a long period of honesty and transparency when possible. Not being caught up in political "sides", or perhaps actually investigate and/or dismiss anyone they find involved in any of the above, no matter how high the position.

I don't trust Trump further than I can toss him either. But each person has their job to do. I trust Trump at the job he does. I question certain things on certain issues, but admittedly not a lot.

He's not the "one person on earth". Why even be a 'tard and question things as such? It's just me and Trump, that's it, huh? Why is it that the only person you ever admit tells the truth is Hillary Clinton? Isn't that a tad odd to lay your hat on a career liar? :rolleyes:

I trust a lot of folks, including you ya schmuck. I trust a lot of our politicians, on both sides. But in the past 2 years I've seen GREAT evidence to question all of our politicians of course. But more so, I'm saddened at what I saw from our intel agencies and have lost a LOT of trust and faith in them. Why does this sound so shocking to you? Why do you act as if me stating as much is equivalent to a conspiracy theory tinfoil hat wearing person?

[High_Plains_Drifter]

Why does this sound so shocking to you? Why do you act as if me stating as much is equivalent to a conspiracy theory tinfoil hat wearing person?
Because... when a leftist runs out of truth and knows they don't have a legitimate leg to stand on, they start with the insults.

Wash, rinse, repeat.

[pete311]

Trump tweets that Trump Tower was wire tapped.
The left has a complete melt down and calls Trump a liar.
Manafort has apartment in Trump Tower.
Manafort was wire tapped.

What do we learn from that?

That president Trump was right again, and now the left, once again, is in full damage control mode eating crow.

Here is his exact tweet. He clearly was claiming he was personally wire tapped.

"Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!"

[jimnyc]

Here is his exact tweet. He clearly was claiming he was personally wire tapped.

"Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!"

I read that to believe wires in the Trump building. And this sounds like it was Manafort directly. Does that include his home number? Cell? Number he had at Trump Tower?

I admit freely that it's not the same. But between fisa warrants and this, I have little doubt that they were being watched in various ways. And by they I mean the Trump "team". That's my opinion. I'm sure yours is that it was all on the up and up and everything was for good governmental and security reasons.

[Black Diamond]

I read that to believe wires in the Trump building. And this sounds like it was Manafort directly. Does that include his home number? Cell? Number he had at Trump Tower?

I admit freely that it's not the same. But between fisa warrants and this, I have little doubt that they were being watched in various ways. And by they I mean the Trump "team". That's my opinion. I'm sure yours is that it was all on the up and up and everything was for good governmental and security reasons.
If it's against trump, it's all good. By all means necessary. Stop the bigot misogynist.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

Here is his exact tweet. He clearly was claiming he was personally wire tapped.

"Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!"
Who owns "Trump Tower?"

"Clearly ALL the wires in Trump Tower are HIS."

[jimnyc]

If it's against trump, it's all good. By all means necessary. Stop the bigot misogynist.

You forgot racist.

[pete311]

Who owns "Trump Tower?"

"Clearly ALL the wires in Trump Tower are HIS."


mmmmm I don't think you really want to go down this rabbit hole. It's not the same thing legally. No landlord would consider themselves wire tapped if one of their tenants were.

This is exactly the danger of Trump's ambiguous tweets. What a waste of time we are having here debating what he meant.

[jimnyc]

mmmmm I don't think you really want to go down this rabbit hole. It's not the same thing legally. No landlord would consider themselves wire tapped if one of their tenants were.

This is exactly the danger of Trump's ambiguous tweets. What a waste of time we are having here debating what he meant.

I agree that the specifics are dumb to debate.... not because they aren't important though. Regardless of being spot on correct or not - the fact is, America was lied to about unmasking crap, as it turned out to be the truth. America was lied to about wire-tapping, as it did happen, but we don't know to the full extent just yet.

MY concern here is the intel agencies and what's truly going on behind the scenes. Being lied to, and scandals and such, makes me nervous to go down THAT rabbit hole.

[pete311]

I agree that the specifics are dumb to debate.... not because they aren't important though. Regardless of being spot on correct or not - the fact is, America was lied to about unmasking crap, as it turned out to be the truth. America was lied to about wire-tapping, as it did happen, but we don't know to the full extent just yet.

MY concern here is the intel agencies and what's truly going on behind the scenes. Being lied to, and scandals and such, makes me nervous to go down THAT rabbit hole.

It's not that simple. First obama didn't order anything. FBI and DOJ can act on that themselves. Second most questions were about trumps literal tweets. Trump Tower was not literally tapped. Manafort in Trump Tower was tapped. This has all been reported and examined before. Even Sessions DOJ came out with a statement that no wiretaps existed that are consistent with the march 4th tweets. This is why it's so difficult to discuss because we are arguing meaning and specifics.

[aboutime]

It's not that simple. First obama didn't order anything. FBI and DOJ can act on that themselves. Second most questions were about trumps literal tweets. Trump Tower was not literally tapped. Manafort in Trump Tower was tapped. This has all been reported and examined before. Even Sessions DOJ came out with a statement that no wiretaps existed that are consistent with the march 4th tweets. This is why it's so difficult to discuss because we are arguing meaning and specifics.


How do you know that? Anything you said above petey? Unless you are a member of the FBI, or DOJ. You can't even read, or understand your own words above. If Manafort was IN TRUMP TOWER....Then...YOU should be able to reason that TRUMP TOWER was tapped. Unless you have some super Liberal Powers that make your lies...Only true for you.

[jimnyc]

It's not that simple. First obama didn't order anything. FBI and DOJ can act on that themselves. Second most questions were about trumps literal tweets. Trump Tower was not literally tapped. Manafort in Trump Tower was tapped. This has all been reported and examined before. Even Sessions DOJ came out with a statement that no wiretaps existed that are consistent with the march 4th tweets. This is why it's so difficult to discuss because we are arguing meaning and specifics.

Where did I blame Obama? And yes, they can act by themselves - and now you see my hesitancy to trust them instantly at face value.

Again, I agree, those specifics don't matter. Let me even extend myself, which I don't believe, but let's just believe that I think Trump was 100% wrong.

With that said, the things about unmasking and wiretapping still happened. And that's merely just a tad on a long list of things that make them 'suspect' at times.

Holder, Lynch, Comey - the faces - all corrupt IMO, in one way or another. Lordy only knows what lies beneath.

[pete311]

How do you know that? Anything you said above petey? Unless you are a member of the FBI, or DOJ. You can't even read, or understand your own words above. If Manafort was IN TRUMP TOWER....Then...YOU should be able to reason that TRUMP TOWER was tapped. Unless you have some super Liberal Powers that make your lies...Only true for you.

If you read the reports and don't make assumptions then we can debate, if you're into pure conspiracy theory, then we are done.

[pete311]

Where did I blame Obama? And yes, they can act by themselves - and now you see my hesitancy to trust them instantly at face value.

Again, I agree, those specifics don't matter. Let me even extend myself, which I don't believe, but let's just believe that I think Trump was 100% wrong.

With that said, the things about unmasking and wiretapping still happened. And that's merely just a tad on a long list of things that make them 'suspect' at times.

Holder, Lynch, Comey - the faces - all corrupt IMO, in one way or another. Lordy only knows what lies beneath.

Once charges are announced from Mueller's team I'll be interested to see which "corruption" you end up defending.

[jimnyc]

Once charges are announced from Mueller's team I'll be interested to see which "corruption" you end up defending.

Unlike you, if there is evidence there, I will soundly condemn that person. Why would you think otherwise? Do I make a habit of defending corruption where there's proof? I don't think so, Pete, so unsure why you care to simply make things up. We may disagree politically, but that doesn't mean instantly that I am a hack when it comes to legalities. I think ANYONE that's ever crossed these parts will tell you how I feel about the rule of law, facts & evidence.

And it's very odd that you immediately come back with this - because I condemned Holder/Lynch/Comey. Why? Are they Democrats? Is there not lies and scandals to be found?

I'm sorry, Pete, but it's you who is burying your head & obfuscating the issues. Shit, no one was even discussing Mueller and yet you find a way to move there because you had no defense for what I wrote?

[aboutime]

If you read the reports and don't make assumptions then we can debate, if you're into pure conspiracy theory, then we are done.


BS. Until you decide to honestly answer some, or all of the questions I have asked of you over time. Nothing you say means anything, nor does it require a reply. Changing the subject to 'conspiracy theory', and 'assumptions' only makes you look worse, and proves how dedicated you are to avoid honestly answering any questions.
You also do not get to decide, without answering questions...when WE are done.

[aboutime]

Remember When James Clapper Categorically Denied Any Wiretap Against Trump Campaign?
by Larry O'Connor | 12:08 pm, September 19th, 2017

https://www.mediaite.com/columnists/remember-when-james-clapper-categorically-denied-any-wiretap-against-trump-campaign/

[pete311]

Remember When James Clapper Categorically Denied Any Wiretap Against Trump Campaign?
by Larry O'Connor | 12:08 pm, September 19th, 2017

https://www.mediaite.com/columnists/remember-when-james-clapper-categorically-denied-any-wiretap-against-trump-campaign/

It does appear he either misspoke, was uninformed, or lied. I would be interested in a follow up with him.

[Kathianne]

Considering Clapper's record, I'd go with lying.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/national-intelligence-chief-clapper-resigns-231547


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The most controversial aspect of Clapper's tenure may have been his statement to a Senate panel in 2013 that U.S. spy agencies were not collecting data on American citizens — a claim later contradicted by information leaked by National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden.

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[aboutime]

It does appear he either misspoke, was uninformed, or lied. I would be interested in a follow up with him.



petey. How did I know you would come here to defend Clapper? You only believe what you want to believe, and never honestly tell us anything in ANY of your posts.
In other words petey. You are NOT to be trusted by anyone here, unless you decide to begin telling the truth, and answering questions with anything other than more questions. You make more excuses than OBAMA, and HILLARY combined.

[pete311]

petey. How did I know you would come here to defend Clapper? You only believe what you want to believe, and never honestly tell us anything in ANY of your posts.
In other words petey. You are NOT to be trusted by anyone here, unless you decide to begin telling the truth, and answering questions with anything other than more questions. You make more excuses than OBAMA, and HILLARY combined.

When did I defend him? Jumping to hysterical conclusions is your bit.

[aboutime]

When did I defend him? Jumping to hysterical conclusions is your bit.

So, you aren't even sure what you said? Try this: YOUR WORDS in the quote:

"Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
It does appear he either misspoke, was uninformed, or lied. I would be interested in a follow up with him"

Sounds very much like a defensive statement to me.

[Black Diamond]

If you read the reports and don't make assumptions then we can debate, if you're into pure conspiracy theory, then we are done.
So Russia didn't put trump in office..

[pete311]

So Russia didn't put trump in office..

I don't think anyone serious is claiming that exact statement.

[Gunny]

CNN didn't admit, they are just reporting news. Also Manafort was wiretapped (legally), not Trump. It's a BIG difference and one not to be abused. This should not be seen as some victory. When the FBI wiretaps someone it's because of some bad shit going down.This would be that same FBI Hillary's server and and found no wrong-doing? Yeah. Bad shit going down.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

mmmmm I don't think you really want to go down this rabbit hole. It's not the same thing legally. No landlord would consider themselves wire tapped if one of their tenants were.

This is exactly the danger of Trump's ambiguous tweets. What a waste of time we are having here debating what he meant.
Well, yeah I would, because it's not a rabbit hole. How else would Trump refer to HIS tower other than "mine?" And he is technically, absolutely correct when he says, "my wires were tapped." He owns them, they're in his tower, they were tapped, end of story.

I realize you leftys like to play word games when you have nothing else to grasp to, but, I can't play those games.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

I don't think anyone serious is claiming that exact statement.
Then what the hell is Mueller doing?

[aboutime]

I don't think anyone serious is claiming that exact statement.


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[jimnyc]

I don't agree with the conclusion of prison so quickly, but I do believe it warrants looking into all of this crap much further on the democrat side, including Comey, Hillary, Lynch, Obama...

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More Comey Lies=> James Comey Openly Lies About Deep State Wiretapping Trump Tower

James Comey told investigators under oath that the deep state did not wiretap Trump Tower.

James Clapper told NBC the deep state did not wiretap Trump Tower or the Trump campaign.

We now know these were both lies.

James Comey has lied under oath several times.

** The former FBI Director testified to Congress that he decided not to recommended charges in relation to handling of classified information, after the FBI interviewed Hillary Clinton on July 2, 2016. However, a new report reveals Comey penned a memo exonerating Clinton in the Spring.

** James Comey told the House Intelligence Committee that the Republican Party emails were not released during the 2016 election campaign. They were.

** And James Comey perjure himself after he just testified under oath in front of the House Intelligence Committee claiming that there was no truth to Trump’s wiretap claims. He lied then too.

** Former FBI Director James Comey said there were no documents on Bill Clinton and Loretta Lynch’s tarmac meeting. Investigators later uncovered hundreds of documents.

James Comey should be in prison.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/09/flashback-video-james-comey-james-clapper-openly-lie-deep-state-wiretapping-trump-tower/

[High_Plains_Drifter]

I don't agree with the conclusion of prison so quickly, but I do believe it warrants looking into all of this crap much further on the democrat side, including Comey, Hillary, Lynch, Obama...

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More Comey Lies=> James Comey Openly Lies About Deep State Wiretapping Trump Tower

James Comey told investigators under oath that the deep state did not wiretap Trump Tower.

James Clapper told NBC the deep state did not wiretap Trump Tower or the Trump campaign.

We now know these were both lies.

James Comey has lied under oath several times.

** The former FBI Director testified to Congress that he decided not to recommended charges in relation to handling of classified information, after the FBI interviewed Hillary Clinton on July 2, 2016. However, a new report reveals Comey penned a memo exonerating Clinton in the Spring.

** James Comey told the House Intelligence Committee that the Republican Party emails were not released during the 2016 election campaign. They were.

** And James Comey perjure himself after he just testified under oath in front of the House Intelligence Committee claiming that there was no truth to Trump’s wiretap claims. He lied then too.

** Former FBI Director James Comey said there were no documents on Bill Clinton and Loretta Lynch’s tarmac meeting. Investigators later uncovered hundreds of documents.

James Comey should be in prison.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/09/flashback-video-james-comey-james-clapper-openly-lie-deep-state-wiretapping-trump-tower/
As you mentioned...

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/31/politics/comey-clinton-investigation/index.html

The son of a bitch is as corrupt as they come, as is Clinton, Lynch, Rice, Obama and Mueller.

DEMOCRATS... seems as though corruption is how they play all their games. Mueller should be fired and Sessions should appoint another S.C. to look into this entire, Clinton, Comey, Lynch, Rice, Obama, Clinton Foundation, wire tapping, unmasking, on and freakin' on... it's mind numbing.