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Kathianne
08-18-2017, 10:30 AM
Losing a voice that was created to promote you:

http://time.com/4906054/julius-krein-donald-trump-vote-regret/


Prominent Supporter of President Trump Admits He Regrets His Vote Katie Reilly (http://time.com/author/katie-reilly/) Aug 17, 2017

One of President Donald Trump's (http://time.com/4904270/will-nation-succeed-after-charlottesville/?xid=homepage&pcd=hp-magmod) most vocal supporters confessed Thursday that he now regrets his vote (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/17/opinion/sunday/i-voted-for-trump-and-i-sorely-regret-it.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur), saying Trump "continues to prove his harshest critics right."
In a New York Times column (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/17/opinion/sunday/i-voted-for-trump-and-i-sorely-regret-it.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur) published Thursday, Julius Krein, the founder and editor of pro-Trump political journal American Affairs (https://americanaffairsjournal.org/author/julius/), criticized Trump for failing to fulfill campaign promises.

"Those of us who supported Mr. Trump were never so naïve as to expect that he would transform himself into a model of presidential decorum upon taking office. But our calculation was that a few cringe-inducing tweets were an acceptable trade-off for a successful governing agenda," Krein wrote.

"Yet after more than 200 days in office, Mr. Trump’s behavior grows only more reprehensible. Meanwhile, his administration has no significant legislative accomplishments — and no apparent plan to deliver any."

"Far from making the transformative 'deals' he promised voters, his only talent appears to be creating grotesque media frenzies — just as all his critics said," he added.

Krein also criticized Trump's reaction to the violence at a white supremacy rally (http://time.com/4904281/bigots-boosted-by-the-bully-pulpit-charlottesville/) in Charlottesville, Va. Trump defended those associated with white supremacist groups and said "both sides" were to blame for the clashes that left one counter-protester dead (http://time.com/4904099/charlottesville-heather-heyer-mother-speech/). Trump's remarks earned praise from white supremacists, but were criticized by members of both parties. CEOs responded by withdrawing from Trump's advisory councils (http://time.com/4903380/donald-trump-strategy-ceo-council-disbanding/), and two charities canceled events (http://fortune.com/2017/08/17/charities-cancel-mar-a-lago-events-donald-trump/) that had been scheduled to take place at Trump's Mar-a-Lago Club.

"It is now clear that we were deluding ourselves," Krein wrote. "Either Mr. Trump is genuinely sympathetic to the David Duke types, or he is so obtuse as to be utterly incapable of learning from his worst mistakes. Either way, he continues to prove his harshest critics right."

The column immediately sparked debate on social media, as some Trump critics praised Krein's honesty, while others criticized it as too little, too late.

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revelarts
08-18-2017, 11:10 AM
So he's just saying that BOTH SIDES ,
those for and against Trump... have good people... with points to make?
and he's now agreeing with the GOOD PEOPLE that have known Trump was generally bad news from the start.

Kathianne
08-18-2017, 11:27 AM
So he's just saying that BOTH SIDES ,
those for and against Trump... have good people... with points to make?
and he's now agreeing with the GOOD PEOPLE that have known Trump was generally bad news from the start.

Yeah, which is why so many are saying, 'too late.'

There are 'good' people that supported Trump, though I never understood their reasoning. I have said that there are things he has said that I agree with, though he often changes his mind. I do like the court appointments I've seen, but those choices appeared to me more from a right legal think group than from Trump himself. Still, he followed the list.

I've never understood the 'we're mad and want to 'shake things up' or something. The idea of draining the swamp appealed to me, I just didn't see how a guy that had his disposition was going to do any such thing. In favor of Kelo decision and taking property without trials on suspicions just doesn't set well with me.

When it came time to vote, I just couldn't vote for either major candidate, they were not acceptable choices for myself.

I'm in favor of removing the maze of regulations and for simplifying/lowering taxes, shrinking federal powers in general, returning or rather kicking back Congressional duties. I don't think this President though is going to get much more done than he has. The really sad thing, he's done it to himself.

revelarts
08-18-2017, 11:38 AM
Yeah, which is why so many are saying, 'too late.'

There are 'good' people that supported Trump, though I never understood their reasoning. I have said that there are things he has said that I agree with, though he often changes his mind. I do like the court appointments I've seen, but those choices appeared to me more from a right legal think group than from Trump himself. Still, he followed the list.

I've never understood the 'we're mad and want to 'shake things up' or something. The idea of draining the swamp appealed to me, I just didn't see how a guy that had his disposition was going to do any such thing. In favor of Kelo decision and taking property without trials on suspicions just doesn't set well with me.

When it came time to vote, I just couldn't vote for either major candidate, they were not acceptable choices for myself.

I'm in favor of removing the maze of regulations and for simplifying/lowering taxes, shrinking federal powers in general, returning or rather kicking back Congressional duties. I don't think this President though is going to get much more done than he has. The really sad thing, he's done it to himself.

mmm, yep. pretty much the same here,

I have nothing to add at this point your honor...

Kathianne
08-18-2017, 02:13 PM
Since I try to avoid the NYT for links, in the interest of folks just blowing it off, here's a bit of writing that adds clarity to what he wrote:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/the-premier-pro-trump-intellectual-says-he-regrets-voting-for-him/article/2009341#!


The Premier Pro-Trump Intellectual Says He Regrets Voting For Him


Julius Krein, who gravitated toward Trump out of frustration with "stupidity and corruption of American politics," disavows his support for the president.
3:52 PM, AUG 17, 2017 | By MICHAEL WARREN (http://www.weeklystandard.com/author/michael-warren)



One of the leading public intellectuals who formulated and argued on behalf of a coherent ideology around Donald Trump now says he “sorely regrets” supporting the Republican president. Writing Thursday in the New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/17/opinion/sunday/i-voted-for-trump-and-i-sorely-regret-it.html?_r=1), Julius Krein says his optimism about Trump and Trumpism was “unfounded.”

“I can’t stand by this disgraceful administration any longer, and I would urge anyone who once supported him as I did to stop defending the 45th president,” he writes.

Krein is no run-of-the-mill Trump supporter. He was one of the earliest intellectuals to gravitate toward Trump. Here in THE WEEKLY STANDARD, he wrote a piece published in September 2015—when Trump was leading in the Republican primary polls but was months from winning his first contest—praising Trump as a "traitor to his class (http://www.weeklystandard.com/traitor-to-his-class/article/1020527)" who deserved to be taken more seriously as a force on behalf of a popular movement. Harvard educated and with a short career in finance, Krein began the anonymous Journal of American Greatness blog during the 2016 election, which evolved into an intellectual journal, American Affairs, that began publishing shortly after Trump’s victory.

What Krein and his other JAG contributors argued was that American conservatism, as then constituted, had failed to stem the cultural and political shifts leftward in recent decades. “We are American patriots aghast at the stupidity and corruption of American politics, particularly in the Republican Party, and above all in what passes for the ‘conservative’ intellectual movement,” the original JAG website (which has since been shut down) wrote of its writers and purpose. “We support Trumpism, defined as secure borders, economic nationalism, interests-based foreign policy, and above all judging every government action through a single lens: does this help or harm Americans? For now, the principal vehicle of Trumpism is Trump.”

Among the pseudonymous contributors to JAG was Publius Decius Mus, whose essays critiquing the modern conservative movement were originally rejected by the Claremont Review of Books. The CRB did eventually publish Decius’s most famous pro-Trump essay, "The Flight 93 Election, (http://www.claremont.org/crb/basicpage/the-flight-93-election/)" in September 2016. Decius was actually Michael Anton (http://www.weeklystandard.com/the-anonymous-pro-trump-decius-now-works-inside-the-white-house/article/2006623), a former communications aide in the George W. Bush White House. Anton is now the top spokesman for Donald Trump’s National Security Council.

In founding American Affairs, Krein set out to “fill the void left by a conservative intellectual establishment more focused on opposing” Trump, as a New York Timesprofile of him in March 2017 described it. At the time, Krein cautioned that his journal did not take “intellectual cues” from the new president.

“These are our ideas,” he told the Times. “We hope there’s some overlap, but we aren’t going to sit around cheerleading the administration.”
Writing in the same paper just five months later, Krein notes he had found in candidate Trump a “willingness to move past partisan stalemates [that] could begin a process of renewal.” That renewal, which he says he still hopes for, isn’t happening under President Trump.

“Far from making America great again, Mr. Trump has betrayed the foundations of our common citizenship. And his actions are jeopardizing any prospect of enacting an agenda that might restore the promise of American life,” writes Krein.