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jimnyc
08-03-2017, 04:00 PM
That's all I could get from the article since I'm not a paying member. I'll find more after this one...

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Special Counsel Robert Mueller Impanels Washington Grand Jury in Russia Probe

Expansion beyond Flynn grand jury is a sign the investigation in election meddling is ramping up

Special Counsel Robert Mueller has impaneled a grand jury in Washington to investigate Russia’s interference in the 2016 elections, a sign that his inquiry is growing in intensity and entering a new phase, according to people familiar with the matter.

The grand jury, which began its work in recent weeks, signals that Mr. Mueller’s inquiry will likely continue for months. Mr. Mueller is investigating Russia’s efforts to influence...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/special-counsel-mueller-impanels-washington-grand-jury-in-russia-probe-1501788287

jimnyc
08-03-2017, 04:03 PM
Perhaps they are onto something big? Trump? An associate? I'll post more as I see it...

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Mueller launches grand jury in Russia investigation - report

Washington (CNN)Justice Department Special Counsel Robert Mueller has launched a grand jury in his investigation of Russian influence in the 2016 election, The Wall Street Journal reported Thursday.

Citing unnamed people familiar with the matter, the Journal said Mueller had impaneled the grand jury in Washington, where his team of investigators continue to look into whether President Donald Trump or any of his campaign associates colluded with Russia during the presidential contest.

The move would signal a new step in the investigation, which Trump has lambasted as a "witch hunt." Trump has denied any collusion between his team and the Russians. US intelligence agencies have concluded that Russia attempted to sway the presidential contest in Trump's favor.

In May, CNN reported that federal prosecutors had issued grand jury subpoenas to some associates of former national security adviser Michael Flynn as part of the ongoing FBI probe into the Russian meddling.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/03/politics/mueller-grand-jury/index.html

jimnyc
08-03-2017, 04:05 PM
Vox is generally "out there", but I'm going to post all I see on this for now...

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Exclusive: top FBI officials could testify against Trump

The acting head of the bureau told top officials to prepare.

Shortly after the appointment of special counsel Robert Mueller in May, acting FBI Director Andrew McCabe told several of the highest-ranking managers of the bureau they should consider themselves possible witnesses in any investigation into whether President Donald Trump engaged in obstruction of justice, according to two senior federal law enforcement officials.

McCabe has told colleagues that he too is a potential witness in the probe of whether Trump broke the law by trying to thwart the FBI's Russia investigation and the investigation into whether the Trump campaign colluded with the Russian government to defeat Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election.

Two senior federal law enforcement officials have told me that the new revelations illustrate why they believe the potential case against Trump is stronger than outsiders have thought.

“What you are going to have is the potential for a powerful obstruction case,” a senior law enforcement official said. “You are going to have the [former] FBI director testify, and then the acting director, the chief of staff to the FBI director, the FBI’s general counsel, and then others, one right after another. This has never been the word of Trump against what [James Comey] has had to say. This is more like the Federal Bureau of Investigation versus Donald Trump.”

Rest here - https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/8/3/16084246/mueller-obstruction-case-stronger-trump-surrogates

Black Diamond
08-03-2017, 04:06 PM
Trump isn't going anywhere. The leftists can wake up and wipe themselves off.

jimnyc
08-03-2017, 04:08 PM
So maybe it's not Trump - but Trump Jr. involving the grand jury? Then again, could be both. Then again, it could be a fact finding mission. Things are heating up!

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Exclusive: Grand jury subpoenas issued in relation to Russian lawyer, Trump Jr. meeting - sources

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Grand jury subpoenas have been issued in connection with the June 2016 meeting between Donald Trump Jr., a Russian lawyer and others, two sources familiar with the matter told Reuters on Thursday.

The sources also said special counsel Robert Mueller had convened a grand jury in Washington to investigate allegations of Russia’s interference in the 2016 elections.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-sessions-idUSKBN1AJ026

jimnyc
08-03-2017, 04:09 PM
Trump isn't going anywhere. The leftists can wake up and wipe themselves off.

I agree. I think, that many think, that every little thing that someone like Maxine Waters rants about, are things that are crimes that can actually have him impeached, or even removed from office. Methinks they don't understand the law on such. I don't claim to be any type of expert, but my little bit of knowledge laughs at that much.

Kathianne
08-03-2017, 04:24 PM
I saw something about how this takes the investigation into the criminal, not just foreign involvement. Meanwhile:


http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/450139/special-counsel-robert-mueller-reportedly-impanels-second-grand-jury-few-thoughts


Special Counsel Robert Mueller Reportedly Impanels a Second Grand Jury: A Few ThoughtsBy David French — August 3, 2017
The Wall Street Journal just barged into the news cycle (https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/special-counsel-mueller-impanels-washington-grand-jury-in-russia-probe-1501788287?mg=prod/accounts-wsj). Special Counsel Robert Mueller has reportedly impaneled a second grand jury:



Special Counsel Robert Mueller has impaneled a grand jury in Washington to investigate Russia’s interference in the 2016 elections, a sign that his inquiry is growing in intensity and entering a new phase, according to people familiar with the matter.


The grand jury, which began its work in recent weeks, is a sign that Mr. Mueller’s inquiry is ramping up and that it will likely continue for months. Mr. Mueller is investigating Russia’s efforts to influence the 2016 election and whether President Donald Trump’s campaign or associates colluded with the Kremlin as part of that effort.


Mueller had already inherited a pre-existing grand jury investigation of former national security adviser Michael Flynn. This second grand jury is likely to have a far broader focus. In addition, CNN is reporting this afternoon (http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/03/politics/mueller-investigation-russia-trump-one-year-financial-ties/index.html) that Mueller’s investigators are scrutinizing the Trump team’s alleged financial ties to Russia:



One year after the FBI opened an investigation, the probe is now managed by special counsel Robert Mueller. Sources described an investigation that has widened to focus on possible financial crimes, some unconnected to the 2016 elections, alongside the ongoing scrutiny of possible illegal coordination with Russian spy agencies and alleged attempts by President Donald Trump and others to obstruct the FBI investigation. Even investigative leads that have nothing to do with Russia but involve Trump associates are being referred to the special counsel to encourage subjects of the investigation to cooperate, according to two law enforcement sources.


What does this all mean? First, it just became more likely that Trump attempts to fire Mueller. In an interview with the New York Times, Trump affirmed (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/19/us/politics/trump-interview-transcript.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur) that the special counsel would cross a “red line” if he looked into “family finances, unrelated to Russia.” The CNN report isn’t the first to claim that Mueller was examining Trump team business dealings, but coming on the heels of the Wall Street Journal report, it’s almost certain to increase presidential fury.


Second, special counsels are gonna special counsel. In other words, their investigations always expand. Our own Andrew McCarthy has called for more “tightly and appropriately defining Mueller’s jurisdiction (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/448639/robert-mueller-special-counsel-investigation-jurisdiction-should-be-limited).” That’s not happening. At least not yet. Instead, Mueller’s operating under an extraordinarily broad counterintelligence and criminal justice mandate (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/05/17/us/politics/document-Robert-Mueller-Special-Counsel-Russia.html), and he’s apparently engaging in classic prosecutorial tactics — attempting to accumulate broad evidence of wrongdoing to pressure witnesses to cooperate.


Third, this sounds trite, but it’s worth saying anyway: The investigation is serious, and no one should just blithely assume it’s a “witch hunt.” No Republican or conservative should bank any portion of their reputation on defending a team that included Michael Flynn and Paul Manafort until we have greater awareness of the facts. Remember it was just one month ago that Republicans were confidently declaring that there was “no evidence of collusion.” That was before we saw emails (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/449376/donald-trump-jr-e-mails-proof-trump-campaign-attempted-collusion-russia) indicating that Donald Trump Jr. would “love” to meet a purported Russian representative who intended to share “official documents” as part of a Russian government effort to support Trump. That was before we knew a meeting actually took place.


There is just too much we don’t know to draw any conclusions on the merits, but a man like Mueller does not impanel grand juries lightly. This story is only just beginning.

jimnyc
08-03-2017, 04:32 PM
I saw something about how this takes the investigation into the criminal, not just foreign involvement. Meanwhile:


http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/450139/special-counsel-robert-mueller-reportedly-impanels-second-grand-jury-few-thoughts


There is just too much we don’t know to draw any conclusions on the merits, but a man like Mueller does not impanel grand juries lightly.

That was after the story made some of those conclusions! LOL

This will indeed change the aspect of things, and heighten interest. At this point of the investigation, we really don't even know what he may be seeking from the GJ, or about whom. It really is guessing and taking stabs in the dark for now. Hopefully, sooner than later, we'll start getting official information out there. The worst is just the knowledge of the GJ alone. Now every media agency and pundit is going to run to the keyboards and microphones and go crazy with what we're seeing!!

jimnyc
08-03-2017, 04:37 PM
White House Responds To Mueller Enlisting Grand Jury in Russia Investigation

The Trump administration has released a statement in relation to the Wall Street Journal’s report revealing Special Counsel Robert Mueller has impaneled a Washington Grand Jury in his Russia probe.

White House Press Sec. Sarah Huckabee Sanders issued the following statement:

https://i.imgur.com/pO9GPbs.png

CNBC reports: (https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/03/special-counsel-mueller-impanels-grand-jury-in-russia-probe-wsj-reports.html)


Ty Cobb, special counsel to the president, said he wasn’t aware that Mr. Mueller had started using a new grand jury. “Grand jury matters are typically secret,” Mr. Cobb said. “The White House favors anything that accelerates the conclusion of his work fairly….The White House is committed to fully cooperating with Mr. Mueller.”

Former FBI Director Jim Comey said three times the President is not under investigation and we have no reason to believe that has changed.

Trump lawyer John Dowd told NBC News the president’s legal team has been “cooperating with Bob Mueller and his staff since the first of June because we’re trying to get this thing over and done with.”

Separately, CNN reported that Mueller’s team has looked toward Trump and his associates’ possible financial relationships with Russia. It “could offer a more concrete path toward potential prosecution” than the question of collusion with Moscow, according to the news network.

Trump previously told The New York Times he considers Mueller looking at his finances a “red line” in the investigation.

Concerns have grown that Trump could try to find a mechanism to remove Mueller. Bipartisan senators even put forth new legislation to legally protect the special counsel.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/08/white-house-responds-mueller-enlisting-grand-jury-russia-investigation/

jimnyc
08-03-2017, 04:40 PM
Another angle to consider... Perhaps this is done so that he could simply utilize the powers that come with having a grand jury? As if he didn't have enough powers yet, I believe he'll have even more authority now.

Kathianne
08-03-2017, 04:41 PM
It would be very good if Trump would just refer everything to his lawyers and not say anything more. A good indication that this may be happening is what you just posted and he has not tweeted on any of this, so far.

Here's what really sucks for him, he really shouldn't talk about this anymore with his kids or their spouses.

jimnyc
08-03-2017, 04:44 PM
It would be very good if Trump would just refer everything to his lawyers and not say anything more. A good indication that this may be happening is what you just posted and he has not tweeted on any of this, so far.

Here's what really sucks for him, he really shouldn't talk about this anymore with his kids or their spouses.

I agree. Anyone even thinking they may be under any type of investigation should STFU on any of these matters.

PostmodernProphet
08-04-2017, 06:37 AM
its for Loretta Lynch.....