Bye Bye California!

[jimnyc]

I'm sure there may be a negative or 2 about this happening, but I can't find them :)

Oh, and being a HUGE Democrat state, and the supposed Russian involvement... just saying!

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CalExit II Approved to Gather Signatures for Right to Secede

For the second time in less than a year, the CalExit effort in California will gather signatures for the right to secede from the United States.

According to the Sacramento Bee, California’s Attorney General Xavier Becerra granted the remaining CalExit group the right to gather signatures to put a referendum on the ballot:


The state attorney general issued an official ballot measure title and summary Tuesday. The campaign can now start gathering the more than 585,000 signatures it will need to qualify for the 2018 ballot.

The initiative would form a commission to recommend avenues for California to pursue its independence and delete part of the state constitution that says it is an inseparable part of the U.S. The measure would also instruct the governor and California congressional delegation to negotiate more autonomy for the state.

This will be the second attempt to put a secession measure on the 2018 ballot. The first attempt failed, and was subsequently withdrawn from consideration in April.

The original initiative was clouded by rumors of Russian involvement and irreconcilable differences among leadership.

This latest initiative, which will be titled “California Autonomy From Federal Government,” according to Becerra’s press release, must gather 585,000 valid signatures to qualify for the 2018 ballot.

The Los Angeles Times is reporting that CalExit II, as it’s come to be known, has been modified substantially from the original CalExit effort:


The proposal, scaled back from an initially more aggressive version, would direct California’s governor to negotiate more autonomy from the federal government, including potentially putting forward a ballot measure to declare independence.

The initiative wouldn’t necessarily result in California exiting the country, but could allow the state to be a “fully functioning sovereign and autonomous nation” within the U.S.

Rest here - http://www.breitbart.com/california/2017/07/26/calexit-approved-to-gather-signatures-for-the-right-to-secede/

[aboutime]

I love it. Let them try. Let them go. Let them see if any FEDERAL aid comes their way should the BIG ONE suddenly strike with that 9.0 Quake.
How bout all of the FEDERAL, U.S. Military bases in CA?
They are not the property of California. So the bordering states who remain will suck up all of the progress being removed from the THAN FRAN THISCO world of Hollyweirdo's.

This may, and should become CA's new flag....<img src="https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQtKaDFKM1alha-5KtJ8Fk_ZMVT9AqhbG1jlJROglxUekTvgTBa">

[Gunny]

Problemo Numero Uno for Californication ...

States do not have a Right to secede as decided in TX v White, 1868, by the US Supreme Court.

As far as I am concerned, they can go and take their deficit that is more than all other state deficits combined with them. But we KNOW this is just grandstanding by the Commie-Cal's. They want some attention and concessions same as Yng Fat Cow in N Korea does.

[aboutime]

Problemo Numero Uno for Californication ...

States do not have a Right to secede as decided in TX v White, 1868, by the US Supreme Court.

As far as I am concerned, they can go and take their deficit that is more than all other state deficits combined with them. But we KNOW this is just grandstanding by the Commie-Cal's. They want some attention and concessions same as Yng Fat Cow in N Korea does.


You are right gunny. But I enjoy humoring them, and letting them all be dumb enough to actually think they will get anywhere.

Kinda makes me wonder how all of those who WANT this could even consider HOW they would manage without the FED. Since the state is nearly, and literally Broke without the other 49 states chipping in on their Stupidity.

[Black Diamond]

Such a beautiful state. Full of psychos

[darin]

Such a beautiful state. Full of psychos

Well said.

[gabosaurus]

Such a beautiful state. Full of psychos

Sounds like Alaska to me. :cool:

[aboutime]

Sounds like Alaska to me. :cool:



Thank you gabby. Sounds like YOU can't see the "FOREST for the TREE'S" yourself.

Pretty low of you, blaming another state for the PSYCHO's???

[Black Diamond]

Thank you gabby. Sounds like YOU can't see the "FOREST for the TREE'S" yourself.

Pretty low of you, blaming another state for the PSYCHO's???
Texas is a long way from California....

[aboutime]

Texas is a long way from California....

:clap::clap::clap:

[Bilgerat]

Such a beautiful state. Full of psychos


It because of all them mountain ranges on the State border.

The nuts and fruits try to climb them to get out, fail, then roll on back into the State :laugh2:

[PostmodernProphet]

the good news is this would probably eliminate the Social Security and Medicare deficits......

[Ricky Tavy]

My, how the talk has changed from when Texas was talking of seceding. California, of course, contributes more to support America's third world made up of the Rightard states than it gets from the federal government. Hey, any of you Deplorables wanta talk about what happened when rightards were able to implement their full loony on the supply-side paradise of Kansas?

I saw trump was able to rescue the governor, dead-man-walking Brownback, making him Christian ambassador to the world, or some such silliness.

[moondoggie]

I love it. Let them try. Let them go. Let them see if any FEDERAL aid comes their way should the BIG ONE suddenly strike with that 9.0 Quake.
How bout all of the FEDERAL, U.S. Military bases in CA?
They are not the property of California. So the bordering states who remain will suck up all of the progress being removed from the THAN FRAN THISCO world of Hollyweirdo's.

This may, and should become CA's new flag....https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQtKaDFKM1alha-5KtJ8Fk_ZMVT9AqhbG1jlJROglxUekTvgTBa
Cute, this ignoramus conflates San Francisco and Hollywood (Los Angeles) as being the same.

[aboutime]

Cute, this ignoramus conflates San Francisco and Hollywood (Los Angeles) as being the same.


Didn't need to conflate anything. Today, in CA. They are ONE and the SAME.

Too bad you had to let all of us know so much about you so soon. It might have been fun if you didn't find the instant need to be so defensive as a liberal.

[Gunny]

My, how the talk has changed from when Texas was talking of seceding. California, of course, contributes more to support America's third world made up of the Rightard states than it gets from the federal government. Hey, any of you Deplorables wanta talk about what happened when rightards were able to implement their full loony on the supply-side paradise of Kansas?

I saw trump was able to rescue the governor, dead-man-walking Brownback, making him Christian ambassador to the world, or some such silliness.Did you miss the "California's debt alone is larger than the combined debt of the other 49 states combined? Mighty magnanimous of them giving away money that isn't theirs to give. CA can't even support itself because of all its leftard policies that equate to tossing money in a burn barrel.

And what exactly was the "other talk" when it was Texas? I don't recall the State of Texas even putting forth such a proposal. I'm sure I'd have known. Somebody'd want my vote.

Oh, I bet you mean some blabbermouth sh*t proposed by some moron with just enough IQ to believe what they hear on f*ckfacebook. Regrettably even we have kooks. They won't quit moving to this loathsome, backwards, redneck place from other states.

[O E]

Did you miss the "California's debt alone is larger than the combined debt of the other 49 states combined? Mighty magnanimous of them giving away money that isn't theirs to give. CA can't even support itself because of all its leftard policies that equate to tossing money in a burn barrel.

It would appear that California's state debt is $136.8 bn (http://www.usgovernmentdebt.us/compare_state_spending_2017bH0C). All States' debt combined is $1,166.8 bn. Excluding California, that amounts to about a trillion dollars in State debt.

Rightards know one hell of a lot of things. Rarely is one among these to be found that actually is so.

[hjmick]

California is not going anywhere.

Texas is not going anywhere.

Discussion over, lock thread.

[jimnyc]

California is not going anywhere.

Texas is not going anywhere.

Discussion over, lock thread.

We can't toss them out quickly, prior to locking? Sure would solve a chunk of issues in one 'floating away' if we cut the cord. :)

[aboutime]

We can't toss them out quickly, prior to locking? Sure would solve a chunk of issues in one 'floating away' if we cut the cord. :)

jimnyc: We just need to be patient, and wait for THE BIG ONE to take care of CA.
<img src="https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHKjNl5UYAEVtBD.jpg" width="400" height="400">

[hjmick]

We can't toss them out quickly, prior to locking? Sure would solve a chunk of issues in one 'floating away' if we cut the cord. :)


The loss of California's agriculture production alone would cause a world of hurt to the rest of the U.S.

[Kathianne]

The loss of California's agriculture production alone would cause a world of hurt to the rest of the U.S.

Indeed. It's the new normal though, everyone who isn't with the side is against it. There's no room for differences on issues or people. Some of those that have screamed 'sheep' over and over, are now just that.

I do think this too will end, just not sure what will take it's place or whom.

[aboutime]

The loss of California's agriculture production alone would cause a world of hurt to the rest of the U.S.


hjmick. Of course it would, and Californian's know it. They believe leaving the way they are talking would solve their problems. So..I see it this way. Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Waters, Barbara Boxer, Diane Feinstein, and Kamela Harris would guarantee that CA fails with their EXPERTISE at politics.

[jimnyc]

The loss of California's agriculture production alone would cause a world of hurt to the rest of the U.S.

Perhaps, perhaps. But the amount of idiots given to the world, from Cali alone, is mind boggling. I don't believe the likes of Pelosi speak for everyone either.

[jimnyc]

Indeed. It's the new normal though, everyone who isn't with the side is against it. There's no room for differences on issues or people. Some of those that have screamed 'sheep' over and over, are now just that.

I do think this too will end, just not sure what will take it's place or whom.

My comments which drew HJ's comments were tongue in cheek, based on another retarded attempt to think they can secede anyway. I've always spoke of Cali as such. There's no new norm as a result of my comment. :)

[Kathianne]

My comments which drew HJ's comments were tongue in cheek, based on another retarded attempt to think they can secede anyway. I've always spoke of Cali as such. There's no new norm as a result of my comment. :)

I was actually just responding to Mick's comment, not what precipitated it. I'm cranky, too much to do and the shoulders are hurtin'.

[gabosaurus]

You guys are just silly. :slap:
California is not going anywhere. Texas will secede before California does. Despite its faults (and faulty politicos), California will remain the greatest state in the union. Great weather, awesome beaches, wonderful people.

Best yet, we have my beloved DODGERS, who (I'm convinced) will make the World Series this season for the first time since I have been old enough to root for them. And I will finally achieve my dream of taking my dad to a World Series game in Dodger Stadium.

Screw politics. Screw Trump. Screw the economy and healthcare and all the idiots in Congress. It's all about the Dodgers now.
Because baseball is America. :salute:

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS_jMOFsE6UI4ao_JTt6tolc1p2Ztnjn eM2HHUT-86kxm2jFnfN

[aboutime]

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[Gunny]

You guys are just silly. :slap:
California is not going anywhere. Texas will secede before California does. Despite its faults (and faulty politicos), California will remain the greatest state in the union. Great weather, awesome beaches, wonderful people.

Best yet, we have my beloved DODGERS, who (I'm convinced) will make the World Series this season for the first time since I have been old enough to root for them. And I will finally achieve my dream of taking my dad to a World Series game in Dodger Stadium.

Screw politics. Screw Trump. Screw the economy and healthcare and all the idiots in Congress. It's all about the Dodgers now.
Because baseball is America. :salute:

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS_jMOFsE6UI4ao_JTt6tolc1p2Ztnjn eM2HHUT-86kxm2jFnfNCalifornia sucks. So do the Dodgers.

[gabosaurus]

California sucks. So do the Dodgers.

Them's fighting words, infidel disbeliever! :guns2:

[aboutime]

Them's fighting words, infidel disbeliever! :guns2:

Gee gabby. You let your Liberalness loose again. Truth really does bother you, huh?

[Drummond]

You guys are just silly. :slap:
California is not going anywhere. Texas will secede before California does. Despite its faults (and faulty politicos), California will remain the greatest state in the union. Great weather, awesome beaches, wonderful people.

Best yet, we have my beloved DODGERS, who (I'm convinced) will make the World Series this season for the first time since I have been old enough to root for them. And I will finally achieve my dream of taking my dad to a World Series game in Dodger Stadium.

Screw politics. Screw Trump. Screw the economy and healthcare and all the idiots in Congress. It's all about the Dodgers now.
Because baseball is America. :salute:

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS_jMOFsE6UI4ao_JTt6tolc1p2Ztnjn eM2HHUT-86kxm2jFnfN

Fascinating.

I'll have to learn from this.

It appears ... that, if ever America suffers anything like a new '9/11' .. or .. it has economic woes .. or .. N Korea, say, manages to successfully launch a missile against mainland America .. you've nothing to fear from any of that. California's 'Dodgers' will come to the rescue, by Jingo !!!

Ain't Leftie thinking 'wonderful' ?:laugh::laugh::laugh:

[Kathianne]

Never underestimate sports and Americans, total capitalism and escapism:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/fullpage/baseball-yankees-helped-york-heal-post-911-president-33663881

[Abbey Marie]

I would miss the wines. But not the whines.

[Little-Acorn]

There are always a few fruitcakes after every election, who solemnly announce that California will leave the union in less than six months.

Happens after every election, like clockwork, for at least the last 30 years.

We’re still in the union.

They’re just hoping you don’t remember the last dozen-plus such announcements. If people remembered them, the announcers would look exceedingly silly.

[PostmodernProphet]

The loss of California's agriculture production alone would cause a world of hurt to the rest of the U.S.
let 'em eat beef.......

[PostmodernProphet]

don't wait for them to leave......throw them out....

[NightTrain]

They won't leave.

There's a few idiots running around here in AK trying to do the same thing. They're dismissed as nutters, as they should be.