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jimnyc
07-24-2017, 01:38 PM
NOT Russia. That's not to say that any poking around and interference may have been done by Russia, but that it DID NOT change the election or why Hillary lost. Probably one of the rare times I agree with this tard.

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Schumer: Democrats, Not Russia, To Blame For Election Loss

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer said that Democrats can only blame themselves, not Russia, for former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s loss to President Donald Trump in November.

“When you lose to somebody who has 40 percent popularity, you don’t blame other things – Comey, Russia – you blame yourself,” Schumer told The Washington Post Saturday.

Schumer, previewing the Democratic Party’s campaign message heading into 2018, admitted that people are not sure what the party stands for.

“So what did we do wrong? People didn’t know what we stood for, just that we were against Trump. And still believe that,” Schumer explained. The Democratic Party’s plan for 2018 is titled, “A Better Deal” and is meant to contrast the president’s economic message.

Rest here - http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/23/schumer-democrats-not-russia-to-blame-for-election-loss/

jimnyc
07-24-2017, 01:48 PM
And CNN addresses it. Speaking the truth is tossing her under the bus. The bold portion below tells the story. It's also where the Dems stand at this very moment. Most of them have no idea, just that they are blocking Trump and the R's at every turn.

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Chuck Schumer just threw Hillary Clinton under the bus

(CNN)In the 2016 campaign, there was no one more loyal to Hillary Clinton than her one-time Senate colleague Chuck Schumer. He defended his fellow New Yorker and the race she ran at every turn.

Which makes what Schumer said about Clinton over the weekend all the more intriguing.

"When you lose to somebody who has 40% popularity, you don't blame other things -- Comey, Russia -- you blame yourself," Schumer, the top ranking Democrat in the Senate, told The Washington Post over the weekend. "So what did we do wrong? People didn't know what we stood for, just that we were against Trump. And still believe that."

Gauntlet thrown.

Remember that Clinton has laid her defeat in the 2016 election directly at the feet of Russia's meddling -- via a series of hacked emails -- and then-FBI Director James Comey's decision to re-open the investigation into Clinton's private email server.

"I take responsibility for every decision I make -- but that's not why I lost," Clinton told Recode's Kara Swisher and Walt Mossberg in early June. In a May interview with CNN's Christine Amanpour, Clinton said: "I was on the way to winning until a combination of Jim Comey's letter on Oct. 28 and Russian WikiLeaks raised doubts in the minds of people who were inclined to vote for me and got scared off."

Rest here - http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/24/politics/schumer-clinton-2016/index.html

pete311
07-24-2017, 02:31 PM
I don't think anyone is blaming Russia for the dems loss. That's not to say the Russians didn't meddle as that has been proven.

jimnyc
07-24-2017, 02:39 PM
I don't think anyone is blaming Russia for the dems loss. That's not to say the Russians didn't meddle as that has been proven.

Meddling and blaming Russia is 2 wildly different things. And don't say that anyone isn't saying it - Hillary herself did, and blamed her loss on Russia!! She blames higher ups in Russia for the Wikileaks themselves.

And while it's died down some, many on the Dems side were quick to blame Russia for the election loss, before reality and intel smacked them in the faces. The 2 articles below are the 2 that popped up first. Searches on "Hillary blames Russia" and "Democrats blame Russia for election loss" will show a lot.

But meddling - yes.

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"I would be your president’: Clinton blames Russia, FBI chief for 2016 election loss"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hillary-clinton-blames-russian-hackers-and-comey-for-2016-election-loss/2017/05/02/e62fef72-2f60-11e7-8674-437ddb6e813e_story.html?utm_term=.05147bdcf82c

Hillary Clinton blames election loss on 'vast Russian conspiracy'

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/hillary-clinton-blames-election-loss-on-vast-russian-conspiracy/article/2624590

Black Diamond
07-24-2017, 04:26 PM
I thought misogyny and racism were to blame

Black Diamond
07-24-2017, 04:27 PM
Schumer is actually catching on. Let's hope this doesn't spread before 2020.

aboutime
07-24-2017, 05:04 PM
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jimnyc
07-26-2017, 02:22 PM
I don't think anyone is blaming Russia for the dems loss.

Hillary Writing Book About How She Lost Because of Russia

Defeated 2016 presidential candidate Hillary Clinton is not giving up the notion that Russia doomed her White House chances. She's even writing a book about it.

Clinton's friends told The Hill that she is ready to put the whole story out there. Her version of it anyway.

"She really believes that’s why she lost, and she wants to explain why in no uncertain terms,” one longtime ally said. “She wants the whole story out there from her own perspective. I think a lot of people are going to be really surprised by how much she reveals.”

Rest here - https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2017/07/26/hillary-writing-book-about-how-she-lost-because-of-russia-n2360222

pete311
07-26-2017, 02:32 PM
Hillary Writing Book About How She Lost Because of Russia

Defeated 2016 presidential candidate Hillary Clinton is not giving up the notion that Russia doomed her White House chances. She's even writing a book about it.

Clinton's friends told The Hill that she is ready to put the whole story out there. Her version of it anyway.

"She really believes that’s why she lost, and she wants to explain why in no uncertain terms,” one longtime ally said. “She wants the whole story out there from her own perspective. I think a lot of people are going to be really surprised by how much she reveals.”

Rest here - https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2017/07/26/hillary-writing-book-about-how-she-lost-because-of-russia-n2360222

You are so obsessed with Hillary. It's a problem. Let her make her money. Move on.

jimnyc
07-26-2017, 02:39 PM
You are so obsessed with Hillary. It's a problem. Let her make her money. Move on.

How am I obsessed? Suddenly Russia is no longer of a concern to you? Figures, and there are MILLIONS more like you. You guys don't give a shit about any supposed Russia crap, not even from Hillary.

SERIOUS question here - does the law change for FORMER lawmakers when they leave office? Are ALL and ANY laws that they MAY have committed then 100% off the table and can never be prosecuted for?

You hate it when Hillary is brought up. You don't seem to care whether it's HER putting HERSELF in the news as such, NOR if it's stories about her breaking the law. Why doesn't her lawbreaking concern you? Why do you post as if NO ONE should be concerned and we should just forget about her and let her make money?

pete311
07-26-2017, 02:43 PM
How am I obsessed? Suddenly Russia is no longer of a concern to you? Figures, and there are MILLIONS more like you. You guys don't give a shit about any supposed Russia crap, not even from Hillary.

SERIOUS question here - does the law change for FORMER lawmakers when they leave office? Are ALL and ANY laws that they MAY have committed then 100% off the table and can never be prosecuted for?

You hate it when Hillary is brought up. You don't seem to care whether it's HER putting HERSELF in the news as such, NOR if it's stories about her breaking the law. Why doesn't her lawbreaking concern you? Why do you post as if NO ONE should be concerned and we should just forget about her and let her make money?

Actually the only time I see Hillary brought up is on Fox News and Breitbart. The rest of the world doesn't care. She's a has been burned up pop part. She's just your boogyman. Someone you need to blame and focus on. Where is your outrage at Sessions not putting Hillary in jail in the first 100 days? Where did that go? Maybe it's for a reason.

jimnyc
07-26-2017, 02:59 PM
Actually the only time I see Hillary brought up is on Fox News and Breitbart. The rest of the world doesn't care. She's a has been burned up pop part. She's just your boogyman. Someone you need to blame and focus on. Where is your outrage at Sessions not putting Hillary in jail in the first 100 days? Where did that go? Maybe it's for a reason.

Really? They're the only media agencies bringing her up? Are you insane? I put in just one search string to cover them and this was a 30 second search. Out of order and all that as it was a broad search. But she is NON STOP in the news on the liberals sites & also the MSM sites - just not all day attacks like Trump.

This is a quick handful, and this is just the internet sites of the main 3. I could times this by 70,000 if I were to hit the "main" and "respectable" pundit sites. So don't think for a second that these very same aren't aired on the TV and radio as well. Don't act like she disappeared for God's sake. She just disappears when it's time to answer questions!

May: http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/23/politics/clinton-email-2016/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/01/politics/hillary-clinton-2016/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/23/politics/judiciary-committee-loretta-lynch-clinton-emails/index.html

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/hillary-clinton-attacks-donald-trump-wellesley-college-graduation-n765176?cid=sm_npd_ms_tw_ma
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/hillary-clinton/hillary-clinton-explains-why-she-really-lost-trump-n743581
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/hillary-clinton-failure-disastrous-gop-health-bill-victory-all-americans-n739821

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/clinton-trumps-budget-shows-unimaginable-level-of-cruelty/
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-tears-into-trump-in-commencement-address-wellesley/
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-shows-hillary-clinton-is-even-less-popular-than-trump/
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/dnc-data-guru-denies-hillary-clintons-claim-she-inherited-nothing-from-dnc/
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/clinton-plans-to-jump-back-into-political-spotlight-with-new-political-group/
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/clinton-says-worries-trump-may-be-doing-lasting-damage/
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hillary-clinton-womens-voices-vital/story?id=46012074
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hillary-clinton-russians-guided-americans-election-interference/story?id=47756102