Explain this one, "Great Warrior"

[jimnyc]

Very young children. Old folks. The age doesn't matter. All that matters is that it's someone other than a muslim, and that they dared and had the audacity to say something negative about muhammed.

Why can't folks get by without the rage when someone does so? Why such HARSH penalties, many including death?

Why in the world would someone need to be moved for their own safety? WTF is that all about? One must go into the witness protection program if they say muhammed was a disgusting pedophile, many times over?

How DARE you say something bad on facebook - now you MUST DIE!

Savages, animals, that's the only thing that could possibly explain such activity.

---

Pakistan: Authorities Detain Christian Teenager on Charges of ‘Insulting Muhammad’

Police officers in Muslim-majority Pakistan have accused a Christian teenager of committing blasphemy, saying he used derogatory comments against Islam’s Muhammad.

“Umair Ahmed, a police officer in the town of Kharian in eastern Punjab province, said Saturday that the teenager, 16, was booked a day earlier and relocated for his safety,” reports the Associated Press (AP). “Ahmed said the youth was working at a local hospital.”

The strict blasphemy laws in Pakistan are primarily used to target Christians across the country, where dozens of people are detained on blasphemy charges every year.

Pakistani law enforcement officials have arrested Christian children as young as eight years old on allegations of insulting Islam or Mohammed, a crime that is punishable by death in Pakistan.

While the Pakistani government has not carried out a blasphemy-related death sentence, numerous Islamic extremists in the country have taken their version of justice into their hands.

“Earlier this year, a university student was lynched in northwestern Pakistan for alleged blasphemy. The charges were later found to be baseless,” notes AP.

In June, a Pakistani court sentenced a man to death for committing blasphemy on Facebook.

Rest here - http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2017/07/18/pakistan-authorities-detain-christian-teenager-charges-insulting-muhammad/

[jimnyc]

STOP THE PRESSES - a woman dared to "offend" others by wearing a miniskirt. :rolleyes:

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Saudi Woman Arrested After Video Emerges of Her Wearing Miniskirt

A young woman in Saudi Arabia was arrested on Monday for wearing “suggestive clothing” after a Snapchat video emerged of her wearing a miniskirt, state media confirmed.

The video, in which the young woman can be seen strolling through an ancient fort in Ushayqir, Hadj province wearing a miniskirt and a crop top, quickly went viral after being posted to Snapchat by a popular user named Khulood.

The video split opinion across Saudi Arabia, which has strict Islamic laws concerning women’s clothing. Typically, women are expected to wear a niqab as well as full-length robes, despite an average daily temperature of 97 degrees F.

On Sunday, a spokesperson for the Presidency of the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice, which serves as the country’s religious police, confirmed they were investigating the issue and taking the “necessary steps” to address a video depicting a “girl in offensive clothing.”

“Just like we call on people to respect the laws of countries they travel to, people must also respect the laws of this country,” Saudi journalist Ibrahim al-Munayif wrote on Twitter.

Meanwhile on Twitter, angered Saudis called for the woman’s arrest, even initiating the hashtag “Demand_the_trial_of_Model_Khulood.”

However, female academic Amal al-Hazzani warned that the country must adapt if it wants to attract foreigners. “Let’s suppose this is an Italian tourist who wanted to know about our great past as part of our 2030 vision of not relying only on oil. Get used to that,” he wrote.

“If she was a foreigner, they would sing about the beauty of her waist and the enchantment of her eyes… But because she is Saudi they are calling for her arrest,” another tweet read.

Some have speculated that the video might be a deliberate protest against the country’s ingrained misogyny, given that it was filmed in Hadj province, known for its ultra-conservative traditions and array of Wahhabi Islamic leaders.

Rest here - http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2017/07/18/saudi-woman-arrested-after-video-emerges-of-her-wearing-miniskirt/

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

jimnyc (http://www.debatepolicy.com/member.php?1-jimnyc)


You might find the answer you seek in this link.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxoxPapPxXk

The bottom line is hat, --- God is War.

Regard
DL

[revelarts]

Islam is the largest example of bad religion.

But i have to say, the 1st story mentions someone who allegedly blasphemed Mohmed being threatened with death.
It's sad... and wrong.
but i have to ask would it be OK if the mob had just demanded that he'd lose his job over his religious opinion?
What about over his political opinion or disrespect of a national flag or an anthem? Death is extreme of course, but his job that'd be fundmentally different right?

suppression of unpopular religious and political views takes many forms seems to me.

[revelarts]

jimnyc (http://www.debatepolicy.com/member.php?1-jimnyc)


You might find the answer you seek in this link.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxoxPapPxXk

The bottom line is hat, --- God is War.

Regard
DL
Doesn't your version of "christianity" say that YOU are (a) god? (that's a yes or no question BTW)
and or that god is in you? (that's a yes or no question as well)

SO if "god is war"....

[jimnyc]

jimnyc (http://www.debatepolicy.com/member.php?1-jimnyc)


You might find the answer you seek in this link.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxoxPapPxXk

The bottom line is hat, --- God is War.

Regard
DL

As usual, the questions go ignored.

Why kill all the time for apostasy?
Why kill all the time for "honor killings", which very often are young girls?
Why punish women severely for not wearing appropriate clothing?
Why sometimes kill women, often via stoning, for petty crimes, or for example - being seen in public with another man?
Why kill people, women and children as well, for "insulting" the religion or muhammed?

Just a little start.

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

Islam is the largest example of bad religion.

But i have to say, the 1st story mentions someone who allegedly blasphemed Mohmed being threatened with death.
It's sad... and wrong.
but i have to ask would it be OK if the mob had just demanded that he'd lose his job over his religious opinion?
What about over his political opinion or disrespect of a national flag or an anthem? Death is extreme of course, but his job that'd be fundmentally different right?

suppression of unpopular religious and political views takes many forms seems to me.

True.

The suppression of discrimination without a just cause of gays by Christian bakeries that would not bake wedding cakes for gays is a good example of government bringing an immoral Christian and his poor moral tenet to heel is good example of proper suppression of religious immorality though. Right?

Regards
DL

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

Doesn't your version of "christianity" say that YOU are (a) god? (that's a yes or no question BTW)
and or that god is in you? (that's a yes or no question as well)

SO if "god is war"....

Yes, and yes.

Do you disagree with these that show just that.

Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Regards
DL

[jimnyc]

As usual, the questions go ignored.

Why kill all the time for apostasy?
Why kill all the time for "honor killings", which very often are young girls?
Why punish women severely for not wearing appropriate clothing?
Why sometimes kill women, often via stoning, for petty crimes, or for example - being seen in public with another man?
Why kill people, women and children as well, for "insulting" the religion or muhammed?

Just a little start.

Btw, if you plan on or try to say that it doesn't happen, or that it's once in a blue moon, or that I'm wrong in they do so for different reasons... save it. But let's see how honest you are for starters.

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

As usual, the questions go ignored.

Why kill all the time for apostasy?
Why kill all the time for "honor killings", which very often are young girls?
Why punish women severely for not wearing appropriate clothing?
Why sometimes kill women, often via stoning, for petty crimes, or for example - being seen in public with another man?
Why kill people, women and children as well, for "insulting" the religion or muhammed?

Just a little start.

I gave the main reason for all of those.

I can expand on this though.

You seem to want to go after Muslims and Islam, and I agree that they should be your first target as they are they are the least moral religion today, but they are not doing anything that Christianity did not do in the past.

Christian Inquisitions murdered many apostates, honor killed many witches young and old, forced women to wear scarves or hats right up to what, 1980 or so, and lastly, the Inquisition killed many for insulting Christianity by not plating by the orthodox rule book and daring to think independently of it.

Do you see a big difference in the ideologies of Christianity and Islam? I don't.

Both Christianity and Islam have basically developed into intolerant, homophobic and misogynous religions. Both religions have grown themselves by the sword instead of good deeds and continue with their immoral ways in spite of secular law showing them the moral ways.


Jesus said we would know his people by their works and deeds. That means Jesus would not recognize Christians and Muslims as his people, and neither do I. Jesus would call Christianity and Islam abominations.


Gnostic Christians did in the past, and I am proudly continuing that tradition and honest irrefutable evaluation based on morality.


Regards
DL

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

Btw, if you plan on or try to say that it doesn't happen, or that it's once in a blue moon, or that I'm wrong in they do so for different reasons... save it. But let's see how honest you are for starters.

I think I was quite honest but let me know if you agree so that I might see if you are as honest.

Regards
DL

[jimnyc]

I gave the main reason for all of those.

I can expand on this though.

You seem to want to go after Muslims and Islam, and I agree that they should be your first target as they are they are the least moral religion today, but they are not doing anything that Christianity did not do in the past.

Christian Inquisitions murdered many apostates, honor killed many witches young and old, forced women to wear scarves or hats right up to what, 1980 or so, and lastly, the Inquisition killed many for insulting Christianity by not plating by the orthodox rule book and daring to think independently of it.

Do you see a big difference in the ideologies of Christianity and Islam? I don't.

Both Christianity and Islam have basically developed into intolerant, homophobic and misogynous religions. Both religions have grown themselves by the sword instead of good deeds and continue with their immoral ways in spite of secular law showing them the moral ways.


Jesus said we would know his people by their works and deeds. That means Jesus would not recognize Christians and Muslims as his people, and neither do I. Jesus would call Christianity and Islam abominations.


Gnostic Christians did in the past, and I am proudly continuing that tradition and honest irrefutable evaluation based on morality.


Regards
DL

So you CANNOT answer each question individually, you choose to use a Youtube video instead which doesn't give me the answers I seek at all. I'd prefer if you just say "no".

Can you please just answer each question on it's own, please? And also, please don't use videos or lame links. I'd prefer to hear the TRUTH from your own words. Factual backup from sources is cool though.

Why kill all the time for apostasy?

Why kill all the time for "honor killings", which very often are young girls?

Why punish women severely for not wearing appropriate clothing?

Why sometimes kill women, often via stoning, for petty crimes, or for example - being seen in public with another man?

Why kill people, women and children as well, for "insulting" the religion or muhammed?

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

So you CANNOT answer each question individually, you choose to use a Youtube video instead which doesn't give me the answers I seek at all. I'd prefer if you just say "no".

Can you please just answer each question on it's own, please? And also, please don't use videos or lame links. I'd prefer to hear the TRUTH from your own words. Factual backup from sources is cool though.

Why kill all the time for apostasy?

Why kill all the time for "honor killings", which very often are young girls?

Why punish women severely for not wearing appropriate clothing?

Why sometimes kill women, often via stoning, for petty crimes, or for example - being seen in public with another man?

Why kill people, women and children as well, for "insulting" the religion or muhammed?

I touched on each item you put and did not give video link.

I guess my question as to your honesty has bean answered.

So has any question I would have on your reading retention.

As to why your religion and Islam as such immoral and barbaric religions, I don't know.

It is your religion. You should know better than I.

Perhaps it is because your God is a genocidal son murdering prick.

Regards
DL

[jimnyc]

I touched on each item you put and did not give video link.

I guess my question as to your honesty has bean answered.

So has any question I would have on your reading retention.

As to why your religion and Islam as such immoral and barbaric religions, I don't know.

It is your religion. You should know better than I.

Perhaps it is because your God is a genocidal son murdering prick.

Regards
DL

I figured as much, you aren't going to be answering shit, just like EVERY single muslim that's ever come here and just like EVERY muslim I have ever known or come across in my life.

Truth is, I already know the answers, or I wouldn't be asking you. And those answers are SO disgusting. And the fact that these filthy animals are STILL doing this kind of stuff today?

And STOP trying to go back in history to deflect answering or to somehow think TODAY'S filth will disappear.

ENDLESS terror attacks, almost daily around the world. Literally planning more so on a daily basis on how to murder others.

Filthy muslims will kill other muslims if they ever say they no longer believe, or try to switch to Christianity or another religion. Apostasy just simply isn't allowed in many, many areas. Either you believe what you are taught, or you die.

If you're a young gal, and you go out and have a good time with a guy that you are not supposed to be with, simply because he's a guy - you often will learn about "honor killing". Of course no honor involved, only cowards. But many places still kill portions of their families for "honor". Sick fucks.

In far too many areas, if a woman goes out with what some would consider inappropriate clothing, they may get beaten or see a very lengthy jail term. Inappropriate clothing? Not wearing a garbage bag. Pants and a long sleeve shirt.

Get seen in public with another man? Or worse, get caught having sex? Or worse, get caught getting raped!! Now you will be buried to a portion of your body, and they will take turns bombarding you with rocks until your skull is cracked and your face, until you're dead.

Make fun of the prophet? Make fun of islam? Do something others consider insulting or blasphemy? Depends on where you are, you better hope not in many islamic areas!! VERY long prison sentences and/or up to death from various manners.

...

Now, was that all covered in the video?

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

I am not a Muslim. I am a Gnostic Christian and you have been answered quite well on each item.

Your honesty is lacking, Christian because I included your immoral ideology and you do not want to deal with it.

You are trying to bury your history with crap of the new upstart and you do not lie that I want to bury both of your immoral ideologies which both promote slavery to an immoral God and his man made homophobic and misogynous doctrines.

Regards
DL

[jimnyc]

I am not a Muslim. I am a Gnostic Christian and you have been answered quite well on each item.

Your honesty is lacking, Christian because I included your immoral ideology and you do not want to deal with it.

You are trying to bury your history with crap of the new upstart and you do not lie that I want to bury both of your immoral ideologies which both promote slavery to an immoral God and his man made homophobic and misogynous doctrines.

Regards
DL

The only thing you got right there is that I am a Christian. But if you think somehow that other things you point out about history bothers me somehow, you're mistaken. I care about TODAY. And I'm proud to be a part of the religion that I am. And if someone does something wrong, like being a pedophile, then prosecute them to the full extent of the law, and then some. But today, I have no worries about folks in my religion going out and committing terrorist attacks and/or cutting off heads. No one will kill me if I try to leave my religion. The comparison today is hilarious, as there is no comparison.

I've tried to bury nothing whatsoever. I've not even commented on anything outside of the filthy muslims. WHY would I try to bury something as you claim in a thread that has NOTHING to do with the things you claim? :laugh:

The things I wrote about islam are fact. My honesty is 100% intact. I will be happy to condemn any act by christians in the past. I'm just glad that civilization has moved forward and evolved, at least for almost everyone anyway.

[gabosaurus]

I don't understand why this whole thing is so difficult for people to understand.
There are several countries that embrace radical Islam as their form of government. You insult the Prophet, you die. You break their other laws, you get into a lot of trouble. Saudi Arabia is one of those countries. Which is why we do so much business with that. :rolleyes:
It's not much different from other dictatorships. You say bad things about the leaders of Turkey, China, Russia or North Korea, you disappear. You fall into disfavor with the drug bosses in Central and South America, the death squads come for you.

[jimnyc]

I don't understand why this whole thing is so difficult for people to understand.
There are several countries that embrace radical Islam as their form of government. You insult the Prophet, you die. You break their other laws, you get into a lot of trouble. Saudi Arabia is one of those countries. Which is why we do so much business with that. :rolleyes:
It's not much different from other dictatorships. You say bad things about the leaders of Turkey, China, Russia or North Korea, you disappear. You fall into disfavor with the drug bosses in Central and South America, the death squads come for you.

That is correct. And then you have countries that DO NOT kill folks, nor go nutso with sharia. But the things I pointed out, they unfortunately do exist, and are horrid in some places still. But many many muslims will deny it. And not only deny that it exists in such places - but that it's never existed at all!

[aboutime]

I am not a Muslim. I am a Gnostic Christian and you have been answered quite well on each item.

Your honesty is lacking, Christian because I included your immoral ideology and you do not want to deal with it.

You are trying to bury your history with crap of the new upstart and you do not lie that I want to bury both of your immoral ideologies which both promote slavery to an immoral God and his man made homophobic and misogynous doctrines.

Regards
DL


GEE WHIZ Gnostic. With all that you just said above, you actually sound more like a member of ISIS, and as an Islamic Terrorist than you intended for us to learn.
Thank you so much for clearing up any doubt we might have had about you.:clap:

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

The things I wrote about islam are fact. My honesty is 100% intact. I will be happy to condemn any act by christians in the past. I'm just glad that civilization has moved forward and evolved, at least for almost everyone anyway.

My honesty is also 100% and I cannot fathom how you can say your civility has evolved when the God you follow is a genocidal son murdering God who is often shown punishing the innocent instead of the guilty.

You think that God worth following which shows your morals have long way to evolve.

Regards
DL

[aboutime]

My honesty is also 100% and I cannot fathom how you can say your civility has evolved when the God you follow is a genocidal son murdering God who is often shown punishing the innocent instead of the guilty.

You think that God worth following which shows your morals have long way to evolve.

Regards
DL

Gnostic. Please tell me, and other members WHY we think of this whenever YOU post?

<img src="https://endtimesprophecyreport.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/gnosticism.jpg?w=406">

<img src="http://www.enemies.cc/wp-content/uploads/new-gnostic-fb-thumbn-banner23.png">

[Ricky Tavy]

So much ignorant bigotry and so little time.

One of the benefits of being a simp Deplorable is you are too poorly educated to understand the differences between the cultural fascism of Arabs, which you really like, vs the teachings of Islam.

Second, and this really reflects badly on this place, I cannot believe even chauvinists as poorly educated as you all are unaware of the extent of right-wing, Christian terrorism perpetrated in our society with so many fewer provocations of poverty.

[O E]

That is correct. And then you have countries that DO NOT kill folks, nor go nutso with sharia. But the things I pointed out, they unfortunately do exist, and are horrid in some places still. But many many muslims will deny it. And not only deny that it exists in such places - but that it's never existed at all!

After centuries of oppression, foreign occupation, domination, and meddling in their affairs, some Muslim countries have found the vilest strain of political Islam serves their political purposes, helps to keep their artificially delineated countries together and opposing forces in check. It originated in the stone age state of Saudi Arabia and was since spreading, first to Afghanistan, with a lot of help from the U.S. of A., and then to much of the rest of the Muslim world.

It's a political phenomenon, much like witch burning was a political phenomenon, back when the Muslim world was the world's guiding light in arts and sciences. In either case, the political powers that be made (or make) use of their peculiar interpretation of their religion to strengthen their political power. "It's the Islam, dummy!" is as short-sighted and historically and politically ignorant as it gets.

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

Gnostic. Please tell me, and other members WHY we think of this whenever YOU post?





You cannot look at or justify your genocidal son murdering God an decided to deflect instead.

Typical.

Regards
DL

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

So much ignorant bigotry and so little time.

One of the benefits of being a simp Deplorable is you are too poorly educated to understand the differences between the cultural fascism of Arabs, which you really like, vs the teachings of Islam.

Second, and this really reflects badly on this place, I cannot believe even chauvinists as poorly educated as you all are unaware of the extent of right-wing, Christian terrorism perpetrated in our society with so many fewer provocations of poverty.

Expand on this please.

Regards
DL

[revelarts]

True.

The suppression of discrimination without a just cause of gays by Christian bakeries that would not bake wedding cakes for gays is a good example of government bringing an immoral Christian and his poor moral tenet to heel is good example of proper suppression of religious immorality though. Right?

Regards
DL
uh, no it's not.

Are people FREE to participate in homosexual weddings or not?
If the "god withen" leads them not to join or promote the practice. aren't they free to OPT OUT?
or do homosexuals have the power to force people do their bidding when it's against those people's understanding of faith?

Are Jew's forced to make sausage at thier deli because a customer or pig farmers demand it?
Are Muslims forced to sell bacon from their food stores?
Are pet owners forced to sell dogs to some Asians that still like to use them in their traditional celebrations for food? would that be OPPRESSING tht Asian minority. Or might it be adhering to a standard of personal belief that it's cruel to uses dogs for food?
But isn't that just AN OPINION not even backed by any protected or clear religious standard?

so no the Christian's aren't "oppressing" homosexual by not selling them wedding cakes... or participating in their weddings

[revelarts]

Yes, and yes.




thank you for a brief and clear response.

So based on your understanding and your assertion.

YOU are WAR

if "god" is within you/you are god
and you say that "god is war"
then you ARE war as well GCB.

you are war and every human on the planet if you ascribe to the idea that all humans have/are divinity

[jimnyc]

So much ignorant bigotry and so little time.

One of the benefits of being a simp Deplorable is you are too poorly educated to understand the differences between the cultural fascism of Arabs, which you really like, vs the teachings of Islam.

Second, and this really reflects badly on this place, I cannot believe even chauvinists as poorly educated as you all are unaware of the extent of right-wing, Christian terrorism perpetrated in our society with so many fewer provocations of poverty.

Wow, simple deplorable and poorly educated? Not sure why you're labeling the entire place as such already. Give it a chance before tossing out names about all of us. I always say that "I reply in kind". So if folks are cool with me, I tend to be that way in return. But if someone comes in with guns blazing and starts tossing out the names, then they also tend to get it in return. I know many will say "I don't care" - but personally, I'd rather see better debate and discussion as opposed to rhetoric and names. I see this a bit from a few since yesterday. And yeps, no doubt, works both ways. I know that folks here aren't ALL angels. But that's why I think replying to individuals is best, based on how they treat you, as opposed to replying as such and making it appear you're labeling the entire joint here. :)

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

uh, no it's not.

Are people FREE to participate in homosexual weddings or not?
If the "god withen" leads them not to join or promote the practice. aren't they free to OPT OUT?
or do homosexuals have the power to force people do their bidding when it's against those people's understanding of faith?

Are Jew's forced to make sausage at thier deli because a customer or pig farmers demand it?
Are Muslims forced to sell bacon from their food stores?
Are pet owners forced to sell dogs to some Asians that still like to use them in their traditional celebrations for food? would that be OPPRESSING tht Asian minority. Or might it be adhering to a standard of personal belief that it's cruel to uses dogs for food?
But isn't that just AN OPINION not even backed by any protected or clear religious standard?

so no the Christian's aren't "oppressing" homosexual by not selling them wedding cakes... or participating in their weddings

That is not what the law of the land says.

I said nothing of participating in a wedding. I did say something of discrimination without a just case.

Regards
DL

[aboutime]

Wow, simple deplorable and poorly educated? Not sure why you're labeling the entire place as such already. Give it a chance before tossing out names about all of us. I always say that "I reply in kind". So if folks are cool with me, I tend to be that way in return. But if someone comes in with guns blazing and starts tossing out the names, then they also tend to get it in return. I know many will say "I don't care" - but personally, I'd rather see better debate and discussion as opposed to rhetoric and names. I see this a bit from a few since yesterday. And yeps, no doubt, works both ways. I know that folks here aren't ALL angels. But that's why I think replying to individuals is best, based on how they treat you, as opposed to replying as such and making it appear you're labeling the entire joint here. :)

jimnyc: You missed the ulterior motive of that rant above. The new member was simply stating his/her AUTOBIOGRAPHY for all of us to ponder here. We have seen this kind of stuff brought here, many times before. Let it go. It's entertaining, if nothing else.

Ricky loves to talk about himself.

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

thank you for a brief and clear response.

So based on your understanding and your assertion.

YOU are WAR

if "god" is within you/you are god
and you say that "god is war"
then you ARE war as well GCB.

you are war and every human on the planet if you ascribe to the idea that all humans have/are divinity

Yes, with a caveat.

I said nothing of divinity as that is something assigned and not something one labels himself.

Humans love an live for drama. Is war nor the epitome of drama? If not, what is?

Regards
DL

[Drummond]

Wow, simple deplorable and poorly educated? Not sure why you're labeling the entire place as such already. Give it a chance before tossing out names about all of us. I always say that "I reply in kind". So if folks are cool with me, I tend to be that way in return. But if someone comes in with guns blazing and starts tossing out the names, then they also tend to get it in return. I know many will say "I don't care" - but personally, I'd rather see better debate and discussion as opposed to rhetoric and names. I see this a bit from a few since yesterday. And yeps, no doubt, works both ways. I know that folks here aren't ALL angels. But that's why I think replying to individuals is best, based on how they treat you, as opposed to replying as such and making it appear you're labeling the entire joint here. :)

Well said.

I think I know what we're in for, on this forum, in the days and weeks ahead. I hope very much to be proven wrong. Beyond that, I will not comment ...

... other than to simply state this: those who hold 'contrary opinions', shall we say, best serve them by indulging in decent, objective debate ... so that the merits of one OR the other receive a proper test. Left-wingers here who genuinely believe in their viewpoints should consider this forum a valid testing-ground for the views they hold.

To such people, I say .. 'bring it on'. You think you argue from a meritorious standpoint ? Fine. PROVE IT.

[Drummond]

So much ignorant bigotry and so little time.

One of the benefits of being a simp Deplorable is you are too poorly educated to understand the differences between the cultural fascism of Arabs, which you really like, vs the teachings of Islam.

Second, and this really reflects badly on this place, I cannot believe even chauvinists as poorly educated as you all are unaware of the extent of right-wing, Christian terrorism perpetrated in our society with so many fewer provocations of poverty.

'Christian terrorism'. Dear me .....

Very emotively put, if I may say so .. and surely, unfairly ?

So tell me this. Based on the teachings of Christ, can you prepare for us a list of those terrorist organisations to be found in the world who ARE such, because of Christianity ?

A list of their 'terrorist atrocities' in the past couple of decades might also help.

Perhaps Christian terrorists have flown jets into skyscrapers recently ? Blown up embassies ? Downed commercial aircraft ? Committed attacks with knives, etc, on city streets, such as in places like Paris or London ?

Try a comparison list ... one side showing such attacks from the Muslim side (those telling us they act in the name of Islam) .. and the other, making the same point in the 'service' of Christianity. Count up examples on each list you compile, and show any measure of parity between the numeracy of them.

If that's too difficult, just try listing the numbers of terrorist organisations in existence, on the Muslim side, then on the Christian side. Show us a comparable prevalence of them drawing 'justification' from Christianity ...

.. or, try this .... show me a comparable commitment, enshrined in Christianity, to the Muslim concept of 'Jihad'.

How many Christians go around trying to blow people up, expecting a reward of dozens of virgins in heaven, for their efforts ? Since when do they commit the cruelty of strapping bombs on to children, then make them walk around in city streets, knowing that all they have ahead of them is death and carnage ?

How many Christians profess to love 'death' more than life, just before committing an atrocity ??

You see, 'Ricky' ... your assertions just do not scan. An objective assessment of what you'd argue for just isn't possible.

But if you doubt me, then, OK. Prove me wrong !!

[O E]

You think you argue from a meritorious standpoint ? Fine. PROVE IT.


But if you doubt me, then, OK. Prove me wrong !!


I know, right?

[Drummond]

I know, right?

I'm dazzled by the full range of material you've posted !! Wow ... how ... 'convincing' ...... :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: