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jimnyc
07-18-2017, 11:22 AM
And of course, as BOTH sides SUCK in congress - they will blame EVERYTHING on Trump. Congress has sucked for MANY years now. They ALL need to go, in my opinion.

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Why the GOP Congress will be the most unproductive in 164 years

Just six months ago, it looked like the Republican Party was about to go on a legislative blitzkrieg, shredding law after law passed by the Obama administration. ObamaCare would be vaporized and replaced with a nickel rattling inside an empty Mountain Dew can. Dodd-Frank was sure to be tossed aside for a transparent giveaway to Wall Street. And Republicans would pass their regressive tax reform, their perplexing border-adjustment tax, and so much more. The GOP hadn't held total power in American politics since 2006, and the party had become much more conservative in the interim. And instead of George W. Bush, a man who recognized at least some theoretical limits on free market fundamentalism, the new Congress would work with a sub-literate tabula rasa named Donald Trump, a man who could probably be persuaded to inject himself with experimental medication if an important-seeming person whispered "do it" in his ear.

But a funny thing happened on the way to libertarian utopia. Indeed, it turns out that the GOP-controlled Congress can't seem to pass any meaningful laws at all. Either they have forgotten how, or the divisions in their own increasingly radicalized caucus are proving too difficult to surmount. Whatever the explanation, thus far these GOP legislators are on track to be the least productive group since at least the Civil War.

Now, okay, technically the Ryan-McConnell 115th Congress is so far actually a bit more active than recent Congresses, if you measure by the 43 laws that President Trump has adorned with his garish signature. Obama was at 40 at this point in 2009. George W. Bush had signed even fewer midway through 2001. But sheer number is not the best way to think about how much is being achieved. As The Washington Post's Philip Bump pointed out, a majority of the bills signed by Trump thus far have been one page long, meaning many are just symbolic or ceremonial.

Rest here - http://theweek.com/articles/711503/why-gop-congress-most-unproductive-164-years

Gunny
07-18-2017, 07:25 PM
And of course, as BOTH sides SUCK in congress - they will blame EVERYTHING on Trump. Congress has sucked for MANY years now. They ALL need to go, in my opinion.

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Why the GOP Congress will be the most unproductive in 164 years

Just six months ago, it looked like the Republican Party was about to go on a legislative blitzkrieg, shredding law after law passed by the Obama administration. ObamaCare would be vaporized and replaced with a nickel rattling inside an empty Mountain Dew can. Dodd-Frank was sure to be tossed aside for a transparent giveaway to Wall Street. And Republicans would pass their regressive tax reform, their perplexing border-adjustment tax, and so much more. The GOP hadn't held total power in American politics since 2006, and the party had become much more conservative in the interim. And instead of George W. Bush, a man who recognized at least some theoretical limits on free market fundamentalism, the new Congress would work with a sub-literate tabula rasa named Donald Trump, a man who could probably be persuaded to inject himself with experimental medication if an important-seeming person whispered "do it" in his ear.

But a funny thing happened on the way to libertarian utopia. Indeed, it turns out that the GOP-controlled Congress can't seem to pass any meaningful laws at all. Either they have forgotten how, or the divisions in their own increasingly radicalized caucus are proving too difficult to surmount. Whatever the explanation, thus far these GOP legislators are on track to be the least productive group since at least the Civil War.

Now, okay, technically the Ryan-McConnell 115th Congress is so far actually a bit more active than recent Congresses, if you measure by the 43 laws that President Trump has adorned with his garish signature. Obama was at 40 at this point in 2009. George W. Bush had signed even fewer midway through 2001. But sheer number is not the best way to think about how much is being achieved. As The Washington Post's Philip Bump pointed out, a majority of the bills signed by Trump thus far have been one page long, meaning many are just symbolic or ceremonial.

Rest here - http://theweek.com/articles/711503/why-gop-congress-most-unproductive-164-yearsDoes this mean really but not really?:cuckoo:

aboutime
07-18-2017, 07:51 PM
jim. We have to be an EQUAL OPPORTUNITY forum here. OVER THE LAST 8 YEARS...CONGRESS hasn't progressed at all. Remember. They are called CONgress, and not PROgress!

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Kathianne
07-19-2017, 07:16 AM
The schism I spoke about during the primaries is now evident. It's not 'all Trump,' it's also the people that vote. There are some that want the Obamacare lite version. There are some that want 'repeal' and forget, let the two years run out. There are some that want some of the things like portability and addressing pre-existing conditions and that's that.

For the most part, the votes in Congress reflect that.

One thing seems certain to me though, the days of just voting for any "R" are over for many. I don't know about the more liberal, but they seem to be having even more problems with ideas.

pete311
07-19-2017, 09:57 AM
"Obama's complaints about Republicans stopping his agenda are BS since he had full control for two years. He can never take responsibility."
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/250975772083380226