DNC and MSM avoiding discussion of Seth Rich

[jimnyc]

The amount of hatred coming from this discussion, and the amount towards Hannity for daring to bring it up. "Kim Dotcom" is a hacker, and I'll believe his word about Rich 7 days a week over democrats. Can you imagine if this was traced back to someone?

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DNC, Media and John Podesta Block Discussion of Seth Rich’s Murder… Even Using ‘Bots’ to Trash Hannity on Rich Coverage

Mainstream Media (MSM) is pushing invalidated, unsubstantiated and crazy conspiratorial stories about President Trump colluding with Russia to win last year’s election. But liberal media won’t touch the story about former DNC staffer Seth Rich being gunned down in Washington DC last year.

Democrats and their media continue to push the false tale that Trump worked with Russia to steal the 2016 Presidential election. This lie is being promoted on all media outlets as a matter of fact even though there is no evidence to support the accusation. Democrats and the MSM have argued that Trump somehow supplied DNC emails to WikiLeaks that impacted the election and gave the victory to Trump. This is of course is false on all levels. For example, DNC emails were released by WikiLeaks before the election but for the most part the MSM ignored them. Also, the emails did contain information that showed unethical, if not criminal, actions by John Podesta and Hillary Clinton before the campaign, but there is no information to date that proves that the emails released were in any way false or made up.

Hillary Clinton’s creepy former Campaign Manager John Podesta has a history of seedy and alleged illegal activity. The late Andrew Breitbart, entrepreneur and creator of Breitbart.com knew this back in 2012 (warning on language):

(video at site)

Breitbart was ahead of his time.

The WikiLeaks emails proved that the Clinton campaign was in cahoots with the media. At least 65 MSM reporters were meeting with and/or coordinating offline with top Hillary advisers. The emails also showed that as early as December 2015 Podesta discussed Trump’s “bromance with Putin” and the potential for using it as a means to slander Trump.

https://i.imgur.com/XjhCrjl.png

https://i.imgur.com/kJxrJUv.png

The day after Hillary’s loss to President Trump, it is reported that Podesta and the Clinton campaign put the Trump/Russia smear campaign into full swing. Podesta and Clinton led this smear campaign in spite of having multiple connections with Russia themselves.

Hillary, through the Clinton Foundation, received millions from Russia in return for providing a large percentage of US uranium to Russia while Secretary of State under President Obama. As for Podesta, his own emails released by WikiLeaks show that he received 75,000 shares in a Russia President Vladimir Putin connected energy company and then in an apparent move to cover this up, gave the shares to his daughter.

Rest here - http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/05/why-are-the-dnc-and-john-podesta-doing-all-they-can-to-silence-the-seth-rich-story-and-probable-unsolved-murder/

[gabosaurus]

The whole "Seth Rich was assassinated" thing is a hoax concocted by Sean Hannity and picked up by right wing "sources." Every facet of the hoax has been debunked. Hannity's refusal to give up on the sham is costing him multiple advertisers, just like O'Reilly was sunk by his sexual misconduct shenanigans.
Fox is totally digging its own grave with this one.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/335077-advertisers-flee-hannity-over-debunked-seth-rich-conspiracy

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/05/22/the-seth-rich-conspiracys-biggest-myths-explained/

(Yes, I know the MSM will never match up to the amazing Gateway Pundit. You don't even need to tell me. :rolleyes: )

[revelarts]

Hannity?

the Sane PROGRESSIVE...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhQ_kuAcItI
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Here's the link CIA Intelligence Debunking 'HACKING' Claims:
https://consortiumnews.com/2016/12/12... (https://consortiumnews.com/2016/12/12/us-intel-vets-dispute-russia-hacking-claims/)
Narrative of Russia Created by Clinton/Podesta According to Campaign Insiders:
http://www.worldtribune.com/shattered... (http://www.worldtribune.com/shattered-clinton-expose-reveals-russian-narrative-was-spun-within-hours-of-trump-win/)
On Seth Rich Murder and Newspaper Report Links at Time:
https://off-guardian.org/2016/08/10/s... (https://off-guardian.org/2016/08/10/seth-rich-murder-the-facts-so-far/)
Zero Hedge Report:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05... (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-16/murdered-dnc-staffer-)
Daily Mail:
seth-rich-was-contact-wikileaks-says-former-dc-homicide-detecti
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/artic... (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4509952/DNC-staffer-Seth-Rich-DID-links-Wikileaks.html)
Assange Retweets Story:
https://twitter.com/fox5dc/status/864... (https://twitter.com/fox5dc/status/864311209276960769)
Family's private investigator: There is evidence Seth Rich had contact with WikiLeaks prior to death
http://www.fox5dc.com/news/local-news... (http://www.fox5dc.com/news/local-news/254852337-story)
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/mur... (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/murdered-dnc-staffer-seth-rich-had-sent-44000-internal-emails-to-wikileaks-report/article/2623186)
Information on Rich's family denouncing significance of evidence, watch fb video:
https://www.facebook.com/saneprogress... (https://www.facebook.com/saneprogressive/videos/1488385357878608/)
Family Spokesman is high level Dem party spokesperson, NO WONDER it sounded like a statement from DNC:
http://www.netrootsnation.org/profile... (http://www.netrootsnation.org/profile/brad-bauman/)


what the investigator said and didn't say.
H. A. Goodman (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDB5XReUyyqt-FTNdkzFN-A)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Esl1utHrzA

Progressive Jimmy Dore
DNC Staffer Seth Rich’s Murder Tied To WikiLeaks (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKawchvHsEg)

FYI
http://kim.com

[NightTrain]

On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 6:12 PM, John Podesta <john.podesta@gmail.com>wrote:


> Agree. Happy to talk to the David's. Call me crazy, but I think if we can
> survive the next month, it will be possible, maybe even straightforward to
> get our arms around this once there is an actual campaign. I'm definitely
> for making an example of a suspected leaker whether or not we have any real
> basis for it.
>
> JP
> --Sent from my iPad--
> john.podesta@gmail.com

https://www.wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/36082

[aboutime]

Does anyone remember VINCE FOSTER?

http://www.wnd.com/2016/10/clinton-fixer-hillarys-affair-with-vince-foster-an-open-secret/

Seth Rich too?????

[BoogyMan]

Wrong. Wikileaks and others expressed concern immediately after it happened but only recently began to speak out loudly.


The whole "Seth Rich was assassinated" thing is a hoax concocted by Sean Hannity and picked up by right wing "sources." Every facet of the hoax has been debunked. Hannity's refusal to give up on the sham is costing him multiple advertisers, just like O'Reilly was sunk by his sexual misconduct shenanigans.
Fox is totally digging its own grave with this one.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/335077-advertisers-flee-hannity-over-debunked-seth-rich-conspiracy

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/05/22/the-seth-rich-conspiracys-biggest-myths-explained/

(Yes, I know the MSM will never match up to the amazing Gateway Pundit. You don't even need to tell me. :rolleyes: )

[jimnyc]

The whole "Seth Rich was assassinated" thing is a hoax concocted by Sean Hannity and picked up by right wing "sources." Every facet of the hoax has been debunked. Hannity's refusal to give up on the sham is costing him multiple advertisers, just like O'Reilly was sunk by his sexual misconduct shenanigans.
Fox is totally digging its own grave with this one.

Ummmm, no. Hannity is WAY late, and certainly not something "concocted" by him. And I suppose a guy in a completely different country, a hacker, somehow works with Hannity?

And somehow just picked up by right wing sources? LOL Its been around for a LONG time, dumbass. Did you just read this crap somewhere else again? Maybe even just read the title only, again, as usual?

[gabosaurus]

Ummmm, no. Hannity is WAY late, and certainly not something "concocted" by him. And I suppose a guy in a completely different country, a hacker, somehow works with Hannity? And somehow just picked up by right wing sources? LOL Its been around for a LONG time, dumbass. Did you just read this crap somewhere else again? Maybe even just read the title only, again, as usual? I am talking about the current spin of the story. Past reports have been thoroughly debunked by numerous sources. Rich's family have disclaimed the entire affair and begged Fox News to drop the story. I don't know how/why Hannity continues to run with this without a shred of credible evidence. Meanwhile, his show continues to lose advertisers.

[jimnyc]

I am talking about the current spin of the story. Past reports have been thoroughly debunked by numerous sources. Rich's family have disclaimed the entire affair and begged Fox News to drop the story. I don't know how/why Hannity continues to run with this without a shred of credible evidence. Meanwhile, his show continues to lose advertisers.

Are you saying that the supposed 43k+ emails supposedly sent from him to Wikileaks is a lie? I haven't seen definitive proof of this being true... but a detective apparently found proof that he was emailing Wikileaks in the weeks prior to dying. That's the source of the emails. You say that's been debunked? Can you provide sources? And that's not Hannity to blame at the very least.

[gabosaurus]

Did you even bothering reading the links I posted in this thread? If you did, it would save you a lot of trouble.


Are you saying that the supposed 43k+ emails supposedly sent from him to Wikileaks is a lie? I haven't seen definitive proof of this being true... but a detective apparently found proof that he was emailing Wikileaks in the weeks prior to dying.

This is merely an allegation. Not unlike the Trump contacts with Russia. Which right-wing sites have been furiously working to discredit.

You can pick and choose what you wish to believe, I suppose.

[Russ]

The whole "Seth Rich was assassinated" thing is a hoax concocted by Sean Hannity and picked up by right wing "sources." Every facet of the hoax has been debunked. Hannity's refusal to give up on the sham is costing him multiple advertisers, just like O'Reilly was sunk by his sexual misconduct shenanigans.
Fox is totally digging its own grave with this one.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/335077-advertisers-flee-hannity-over-debunked-seth-rich-conspiracy

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/05/22/the-seth-rich-conspiracys-biggest-myths-explained/

(Yes, I know the MSM will never match up to the amazing Gateway Pundit. You don't even need to tell me. :rolleyes: )

Gabby - check out how well your post works if I just change a few words...

The whole "Seth Rich was assassinated" "Trump-Russia collusion" thing is a hoax concocted by Sean Hannity Hillary/John Podesta/the DNC and picked up by right wing "sources." CNN, the Washington Post and the NYTimes. Every facet of the hoax has been debunked. Hannity's CNN, the Washington Post and the NYTimes refusal to give up on the sham is costing him them multiple advertisers, just like O'Reilly Bill Clinton was sunk by his sexual misconduct shenanigans.
Fox is CNN, the Washington Post and the NYTimes are totally digging their own grave with this one.

[gabosaurus]

So why do you believe one of them and not the other?

[revelarts]

So why do you believe one of them and not the other?

Because those associated with wikileaks are correct nearly 98%+ of the time.
And have no agenda. While the us Intel groups, the WAPO and the DNC have much spottiter record if telling the truth.
In fact one of the DNC IT guys ran off to Pakistan for some reason and has avoided questions.
Plus Assange and associate s have said FROM THE BEGINNING that the source was a DNC leak and NOT any govt .

[Kathianne]

Because those associated with wikileaks are correct nearly 98%+ of the time.
And have no agenda. While the us Intel groups, the WAPO and the DNC have much spottiter record if telling the truth.
In fact one of the DNC IT guys ran off to Pakistan for some reason and has avoided questions.
Plus Assange and associate s have said FROM THE BEGINNING that the source was a DNC leak and NOT any govt .


and therein lies a problem:

https://www.wired.com/2017/05/russian-hackers-using-tainted-leaks-sow-disinformation/


Russian Hackers Are Using ‘Tainted’ Leaks to Sow Disinformation

OVER THE PAST year, the Kremlin’s strategy of weaponizing leaks to meddle with democracies around the world has become increasingly clear, first in the US and more recently in France. But a new report by a group of security researchers digs into another layer of those so-called influence operations: how Russian hackers alter documents within those releases of hacked material, planting disinformation alongside legitimate leaks.


A new report (https://citizenlab.org/2017/05/tainted-leaks-disinformation-phish/) from researchers at the Citizen Lab group at the University of Toronto’s Munk School of Public Affairs documents a wide-ranging hacking campaign, with ties to known Russian hacker groups. The effort targeted more than 200 individuals, ranging from Russian media to a former Russian prime minister to Russian opposition groups, and assorted government and military personnel from Ukraine to Vietnam. Noteworthy among the leaks: A Russia-focused journalist and author whose emails were not only stolen but altered before their release. Once they appeared on a Russian hactivist site, Russian state media used the disinformation to concoct a CIA conspiracy.


The case could provide the clearest evidence yet that Russian hackers have evolved their tactics from merely releasing embarrassing true information to planting false leaks among those facts. “Russia has a long history of experience with disinformation,” says Ron Deibert, the political science professor who led Citizen Lab’s research into the newly uncovered hacking spree. “This is the first case of which I am aware that compares tainted documents to originals associated with a cyber espionage campaign.”

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[jimnyc]

Did you even bothering reading the links I posted in this thread? If you did, it would save you a lot of trouble.



This is merely an allegation. Not unlike the Trump contacts with Russia. Which right-wing sites have been furiously working to discredit.

You can pick and choose what you wish to believe, I suppose.

I no longer bother with the Washington Post after they repeatedly posted apparently false and unsubstantiated and anonymous stories. I also don't consider a blog to be MSM.

I don't pick and choose, I gather information. Wikileaks was all over this LONG before Hannity came along. Kim has no reason to lie, and I'll believe Wiki and him at this point, as far as the EMAILS are concerned.

[revelarts]

WAPO ...more than most MSM papers.... need to be viewed with a critical eye.
As ALWAYS what's the INTIAL source? what's the RAW evidence.
And what are the influences connections owners POV of news source.
WAPO owner get 6 million from CIA (http://www.hangthebankers.com/washington-post-owner-receives-600-million-cia/)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDF1kDhHDEI

doesn't mean that EVERYTHING THEY SAY is false.
but you've got to bring your critical thinking skills to the table.

[revelarts]

and therein lies a problem:

https://www.wired.com/2017/05/russian-hackers-using-tainted-leaks-sow-disinformation/

Yes and the rest of the article goes on to say that they can find no evidence that the wiki leaks emails have been tampered with.
Plus Assange has addressed this issue as well. Saying that their experts vet ... as the Toronto Munk school did... the emails for traces of outside/hacked editing as well as other things that might indicate anomalies or forgeries. they are extremely scrupulous because they don't want to post false info and lose their rep or trust.

side bar here
it's interesting that a Canadian School is revealing this most up to date info about Russia upgrade in hacking. and that so far they've only confirmed ONE set of emails where this has been done.

[revelarts]

Here's the other thing about the HACKING in general.
1st of all the NewYork Times and others all admit that the Russian's hacking various political networks is to be expected as a part of spy craft. Not long ago it was revealed that our ally Israel was spying on various U.S. gov't entities and more recently that the NSA was caught spying our own allies, recording their phone calls no less.

"...Such intrusions, while troublesome, are within the expected bounds of international spycraft. The case took a surprising turn in June, after Democratic Party officials, perhaps seeing an opportunity to paint Mr. Trump as Moscow’s favored candidate, revealed the apparent Russian infiltration to The Washington Post...."
NYTIMES (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/27/world/europe/russia-dnc-hack-emails.html)

....Former CIA and NSA Director Michael Hayden on Tuesday implied that the United States, too, has hacked foreign political parties.
The difference between the U.S.’s actions and Russia in the 2016 presidential election, Hayden said, was that “once they got that information, they weaponized it.”
But up until they weaponized information, Hayden said their actions were par for the course.
“I have to admit my definition of what the Russians did [in hacking the Democratic National Committee] is, unfortunately, honorable state espionage," Hayden said during an on-stage interview at the Heritage Foundation.
"A foreign intelligence service getting the internal emails of a major political party in a major foreign adversary? Game on. That’s what we do. By the way, I would not want to be in an American court of law and be forced to deny that I never did anything like that as director of the NSA,” he said.....
Ex-NSA head suggests US also hacks political parties | TheHill (http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/301667-former-cia-and-nsa-head-suggests-us-also-hacks-political-parties)
So Even IF Russia Hacked the DNC the intel community knows that it is "unfortunately, honorable state espionage". And we have to remember that according to wikileak's Assange and his open contacts they state emphatically that they never got any information from Russia. They got it from a DNC insider.
So Hayden's "...they weaponized information..." accusation is false.

At best... when you push all of the experts, agencies and politicians... they will admit that all the info against Russia is CIRCUMSTANTIAL.

[revelarts]

http://media.breitbart.com/media/2016/12/dhsdisclaimer2.jpg


“We can say, we have said, repeatedly that over the last two months that our source is not the Russian government and it is not a state party,”
Julian Assange


“Hillary Clinton has stated multiple times, falsely, that 17 US intelligence agencies had assessed that Russia was the source of our publications. That’s false – we can say that the Russian government is not the source.”
Julian Assange

[pete311]

whoopise

Lawsuit: Fox News concocted Seth Rich story with oversight from White House
http://money.cnn.com/2017/08/01/media/rod-wheeler-seth-rich-fox-news-lawsuit/index.html

[jimnyc]

whoopise

Lawsuit: Fox News concocted Seth Rich story with oversight from White House
http://money.cnn.com/2017/08/01/media/rod-wheeler-seth-rich-fox-news-lawsuit/index.html

Sad and fucked up. I'll be very curious to see how this lawsuit pans out and all the facts with it. :(

[gabosaurus]

http://www.npr.org/2017/08/01/540783715/lawsuit-alleges-fox-news-and-trump-supporter-created-fake-news-story

The Fox News Channel and a wealthy supporter of President Trump worked in concert under the watchful eye of the White House to concoct a story about the death of a young Democratic National Committee aide, according to a lawsuit filed Tuesday.

The explosive claim is part of a lawsuit filed against Fox News by Rod Wheeler, a longtime paid commentator for the news network. The suit was obtained exclusively by NPR.

Wheeler alleges Fox News and the Trump supporter intended to deflect public attention from growing concern about the administration's ties to the Russian government. His suit charges that a Fox News reporter created quotations out of thin air and attributed them to him to propel her story.

Fox's president of news, Jay Wallace, told NPR on Monday that there was no "concrete evidence" that Wheeler was misquoted by the reporter, Malia Zimmerman. The news executive did not address a question about the story's allegedly partisan origins. Fox News declined to allow Zimmerman to comment for this story.

The story, which first aired in May, was retracted by Fox News a week later. Fox News has, to date, taken no action in response to what it said was a failure to adhere to the network's standards.

The lawsuit focuses particular attention on the role of the Trump supporter, Ed Butowsky, in weaving the story. He is a wealthy Dallas investor and unpaid Fox commentator on financial matters who has emerged as a reliable Republican surrogate in recent years. Butowsky offered to pay for Wheeler to investigate the death of the DNC aide, Seth Rich, on behalf of his grieving parents in Omaha, Neb.

On April 20, a month before the story ran, Butowsky and Wheeler — the investor and the investigator — met at the White House with then-press secretary Sean Spicer to brief him on what they were uncovering.

The first page of the lawsuit quotes a voicemail and text from Butowsky boasting that Trump himself had reviewed drafts of the Fox News story just before it went to air and was published.

Spicer now tells NPR that he took the meeting as a favor to Butowsky. Spicer says he was unaware of any contact involving the president. And Butowsky tells NPR that he was kidding about Trump's involvement.

"Rod Wheeler unfortunately was used as a pawn by Ed Butowsky, Fox News and the Trump administration to try and steer away the attention that was being given about the Russian hacking of the DNC emails," says Douglas Wigdor, Wheeler's lawyer.

The back story

On May 16, the Fox News Channel broke what it called a "bombshell" story about an unsolved homicide: the July 2016 shooting of 27-year-old Democratic Party staffer Seth Rich.

Unfounded conspiracy theories involving Rich abounded in the months after his death, in part because WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange cryptically suggested that Rich's death may have been related to the leaks of tens of thousands of emails from Democratic Party officials and their allies at the peak of the presidential campaign.

Fox News' story, which took flight online and ran in segments across major shows, breathed fresh life into the rumors. Fox reported that the leaks came from inside the party and not from hackers linked to Russia — despite the conclusions of the nation's most senior intelligence officials. The network suggested that Democrats might have been connected to Rich's death and that a cover-up had thwarted the official investigation.

[jimnyc]

Rod Wheeler Explains Fox News Controversy, Claims Seth Rich Brother BLOCKED WikiLeaks Inquiries

The MSM spent a tireless 24-hours attempting to lead the public away from knowing the truth about the Seth Rich case. NPR led the charge publishing a piece titled “Behind Fox News’ Baseless Seth Rich Story: The Untold Tale”, a piece they will no doubt have to HEAVILY retract and apologize for. NPR attempts to disprove the story after they had gained access to a lawsuit against Fox News by Rod Wheeler. Wheeler is a former Fox contributor and the D.C. detective hired by Ed Butowsky, at the request of the Rich family, to investigate their son’s murder.

The NRP report alleges that on April 20th, after uncovering disturbing leads in the case, Butowsky and Wheeler met in the White House with Sean Spicer to brief him on what they were uncovering. Wheeler believed, and expressed to FOX 5, that there is tangible evidence on Rich’s laptop that confirms he was communicating with WikiLeaks prior to his death.

NOW THIS: As NPR was attempting to stop the inquires once and for all, Big League Politics reporter, Cassandra Fairbanks, released a leaked audio of Rod Wheeler explaining the Fox coverage of Rich and how Aaron Rich, Seth’s brother, was adamantly trying to stop all inquiries into the WikiLeaks connection.

VIA BIG LEAGE POLITICS:

On August 1, Wheeler filed a lawsuit in New York City alleging White House involvement in pushing the story. But in this recording, he explains that he acted on his own in contacting Fox News reporters — and exactly how that all went down. The White House being involved is not mentioned once.

“The story has already blown up, this will only give credence to the story. If Fox News channel broke it, it would seem like conspiracy theories,” Wheeler says the Fox 5 DC reporter texted him. “So she decided that she was going to run with this story, in her mind, so it didn’t seem like a conspiracy theory from Fox News.”

Wheeler said that brother Aaron Rich tried to block Wheeler from looking at Seth’s computer, even though there could be evidence on it. “He said no, he said I have his computer, meaning him,” Wheeler said. “I said, well can I look at it?…He said, what are you looking for? I said anything that could indicate if Seth was having problems with someone. He said no, I already checked it. Don’t worry about it.”

Wheeler said that Seth’s girlfriend told him that Aaron Rich had possession of Seth’s cell phones, but Aaron denied it and said “we’re not going to worry about the cell phones.”

Aaron also blocked Wheeler from finding out about who was at a party Seth attended the night of the murder.

“All I want you to do is work on the botched robbery theory and that’s it,” Aaron told Wheeler, according to Wheeler’s claim on the audio. Wheeler said that Seth’s father Joel “does not appear to have any hidden agenda.”

Rest here - http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/08/breaking-rod-wheeler-explains-fox-news-fiasco-claims-brother-blocked-wikileaks-inquiries/

[gabosaurus]

NPR had nothing to do with the story except reporting it.
I figured it would only be a matter of times before the right-wing blogs countered with their own alternative facts.

[jimnyc]

Jerome Corsi: Seth Rich was John Brennan Sanctioned CIA Hit

On July 10, 2016, 27 year-old Democratic staffer Seth Conrad Rich was murdered in Washington DC about a block from his apartment. The killer or killers took nothing from their victim, leaving behind his wallet, watch and phone.

On Tuesday The Gateway Pundit reported on new audio of Seymour Hersh at Big League Politics stating that not only was Seth Rich in contact with WikiLeaks, but that he managed to get his hands on some of the original communications between Rich and Wikileaks.

Wikileaks tweeted out the report on Tuesday.

If they didn’t agree with the report then they certainly would not promote it.

https://i.imgur.com/vS0BFm4.png

Wikileaks has also gone on record several times stating that Russia was NOT the source of their Hillary Clinton email leaks.

On Wednesday morning Jerome Corsi from Infowars tweeted out that Seth Rich’s murder was a CIA hit.

Rest here - http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/08/jerome-corsi-seth-rich-brennan-sanctioned-cia-hit/

[jimnyc]

Here's CNN's take on the supposed chronological order of events. But they don't show anything whatsoever prior to his murder. Wouldn't that be important?

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The tragic death and horrible politicization of Seth Rich, explained

(CNN)In a lawsuit filed earlier this week, former homicide detective and Fox News analyst Rod Wheeler alleged that Fox News Channel and a Republican donor made up quotes attributed to him to drum up a retracted news story suggesting that the death of a Democratic National Committee staffer named Seth Rich had something to do with the hack of the DNC's email server during the 2016 election.

The suit has pushed the story of Rich -- and the conspiracy theories surrounding his death -- into the national spotlight.

But, there remains tons of confusion and misinformation about what actually happened to Rich, what Wheeler said about it and what, allegedly, Fox News, a Dallas-area businessman named Ed Butowsky and the White House had to do with it.

In an attempt to clear up that confusion, here's a timeline of the entire episode -- from Rich's murder to the lawsuit being filed on Tuesday. This timeline is built on CNN's published reporting as well as that of the Washington Post and other mainstream news outlets. It also relies on details used in the suit brought by Wheeler against Fox News.

* July 10, 2016: Rich, 27, is shot to death in the Bloomingdale neighborhood of Washington, DC. He was shot several times including at least once in the back just after 4 am. Police said at the time of the murder they believed Rich was murdered after resisting an attempted robbery. Rich was involved in voter participation activities at the DNC.

* July 12, 2016 The conspiracy theories of Rich's death begin to circulate -- primarily via Reddit. The fact that the valuables Rich was carrying were not taken in the attempted robbery are seen as the key to the conspiracy, although it could also be because the robbery was botched.

* July 22, 2016: WikiLeaks releases more than 19,000 DNC emails obtained via a hack. A few of the emails paint DNC Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz as dismissive of Bernie Sanders' presidential campaign, confirming what many Sanders' supporters had long believed. (Wasserman Schultz is later forced to resign.)

* July 25, 2016: The FBI announces it is opening an investigation into the DNC hack. Word also leaks out that federal investigators had warned the DNC about the possibility of a hack back in 2015.

* July 27, 2016: Trump holds a press conference during the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia in which he openly urges Russia to hack into Hillary Clinton's private email server. "Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing," Trump says.

* Fall 2016: Jack Burkman, a Republican lobbyist, gets in touch with the Rich family. He puts up more than $100,000 in reward money for anyone with knowledge of Seth's murder.

* Jan 3. 2017: WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange tells Fox News' Sean Hannity that Russia didn't provide his organization with the hacked DNC emails. (By this time, the CIA, FBI and NSA are all unanimous in their belief that the WikiLeaks' hacks originated in Russia with the express purpose of helping to elected Trump.) One way the emails could have gotten from Russia to Wikileaks is through a "cut-out" or middle man.

* Jan. 4, 2017: Trump tweets this: "Julian Assange said 'a 14 year old could have hacked Podesta' - why was DNC so careless? Also said Russians did not give him the info!"

* February 2017: Butowsky, the Dallas businessman, calls Wheeler and, it appears from the lawsuit, offers to pay him to look into the circumstances surrounding Rich's death. Separately, according to the lawsuit, Wheeler shows up at a February 28 meeting with Butowsky and is "surprised" that Malia Zimmerman, the Fox News reporter, is there as well. He's then told Butowsky and Zimmerman are working together.

* April 20, 2017: Butowsky and Wheeler meet with White House press secretary Sean Spicer. Wheeler says in his complaint that they provided the press secretary with a summary of Wheeler's investigation's finding to date.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/02/politics/seth-rich-death-fox-news-trump/index.html

[aboutime]

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CONSPIRACY THEORY OR COINCIDENCE???
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<img src="http://defiantamerica.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/steven-wasserman-and-debbie-wasserman-schultz-640x378.jpg">

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http://youtu.be/dGoUFxh6pzk

[revelarts]

2 problems with the CNN MSM "bombshell" of the white-house-meeting-lawsuit-murder-cover-up-story-retraction-FOX etc. story.

1. it's pot calling the kettle black.
CNN, Msnbc, the Wash Post, the guardian, etc etc all have run with HALF baked and concocted "news" stories about Russia and Trump that they've either had to retract or severely correct. not to mention the CNN colluding with Hillary Clinton people during the Campaign
ALL of the MSM are in bed with Politicians and corporations with various stories and issues.
everyone has to scratch DEEP to get past the BS that passes for "news"

Having said that I'm glad it's been exposed. however what's been exposed isn't exactly that horrific.
seems to me the question still stands ... "Who Killed Seth Rich and why?" the police have no good answer and there are still many odd and too coincidental things about it.

2. But the REAL QUESTION that this "FOX WhiteHouse collusion Bombshell" obfuscates is;
Were the DNC files that exposed the DNCs corruption and vote rigging Hacked by Russia or Leaked By a DNC Insider.

the Answer to that is that old and NEW evidence shows that the DNC server info was LEAKED BY AN INSIDER!
And that info has nothing to do with the Seth Rich's-Murder-White-House-FOX-law-suit concoction story

But there are in fact several lines of evidence that do point to Seth Rich as the LEAKER, and evidence of the files themselves shows that it was SOMEONE INSIDE the DNC that collected the DNC server emails.
NOT Russia.
Most of that the MSM seemed to have ignored this and STILL promote the "RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA" narratives ... which they retract and/or correct days later.

As well as IGNORING the CLEAR CORRUPTION of the DNC and Hillary Clintons people in Screwing over the Democratic Primaries.
there's an ongoing lawsuit by Democratic party members against the DNC for it's CLEARLY REVEALED uncontested Corruption.
but the MSM would rather promote thin speculations about Russia with evidence free, circumstantial "connections" between Trump and "RUSSIA RUSIA RUSSIA!! http://www.politicalwrinkles.com/images/smilies/eek.gif"


Bottom line Someone at the DNC LEAKED the DNC info. that's the important part of the OVERALL narrative.
the next point should be WHO leaked it.
And there is some evidence that points to Seth Rich as the likely candidate. (better evidence than "RUSSIA DOOD IT!!!")

Who killed Seth Rich and why will probably be a question like the murder of Lee Harvey Oswald, the DC Madam, Vince Foster... etc etc etc etc etc
But that doesn't change the FACT of the DNC's Corruption, or that the DNC info was leaked... and RUSSIA DIDn't do it... despite the MSMs 8-month crap storm of BS stories.

[aboutime]

The DNC is running out of funds to control their PUPPETS.....
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[revelarts]

People submitted a FOIA request of the FBI for Seth Rich's information and computer.
But the
FBI Demands 66 YEARS Before Releasing Seth Rich Laptop Data!?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzAXfOvlQl4

nothing to see here.

[Black Diamond]

People assume the worst when things are covered up.

[fj1200]

People assume the worst when things are covered up.

Cover up?
Seth Rich conspiracy theorists retract and apologize for false statements as they settle lawsuit (https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/14/media/seth-rich-lawsuit-settlement-ed-butowsky/index.html)Fox News Reaches Settlement With Parents of Seth Rich (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/24/business/media/fox-news-seth-rich.html)
What is with this incessant need to try and find conspiracies where there aren't any and is no upside for keeping it alive?

[SassyLady]

People submitted a FOIA request of the FBI for Seth Rich's information and computer.
But the
FBI Demands 66 YEARS Before Releasing Seth Rich Laptop Data!?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzAXfOvlQl4

nothing to see here.

I thought they didn't have that info to begin with ... now they want 66 years to reveal data they don't have. Ugh!

They probably think everyone involved will be dead by then.

[SassyLady]

Cover up?
Seth Rich conspiracy theorists retract and apologize for false statements as they settle lawsuit (https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/14/media/seth-rich-lawsuit-settlement-ed-butowsky/index.html)Fox News Reaches Settlement With Parents of Seth Rich (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/24/business/media/fox-news-seth-rich.html)
What is with this incessant need to try and find conspiracies where there aren't any and is no upside for keeping it alive?

Then explain why the FBI needs 66 years to to publish the data? Seems they are the ones keeping the story alive.

[Black Diamond]

Cover up?
Seth Rich conspiracy theorists retract and apologize for false statements as they settle lawsuit (https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/14/media/seth-rich-lawsuit-settlement-ed-butowsky/index.html)Fox News Reaches Settlement With Parents of Seth Rich (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/24/business/media/fox-news-seth-rich.html)
What is with this incessant need to try and find conspiracies where there aren't any and is no upside for keeping it alive?
Was actually a general comment. I am seeing this in work environment. And it doesn't do any good for FBI or other agencies to lock things up for 66 years. That is what fuels speculation and "conspiracy theories" (I hate that term)

[fj1200]

Then explain why the FBI needs 66 years to to publish the data? Seems they are the ones keeping the story alive.

No idea. It's a whole bag full of stupid.


Was actually a general comment. I am seeing this in work environment. And it doesn't do any good for FBI or other agencies to lock things up for 66 years. That is what fuels speculation and "conspiracy theories" (I hate that term)

Maybe so but it doesn't take much to fuel speculation these days.

[revelarts]

Cover up?
Seth Rich conspiracy theorists retract and apologize for false statements as they settle lawsuit (https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/14/media/seth-rich-lawsuit-settlement-ed-butowsky/index.html)
Fox News Reaches Settlement With Parents of Seth Rich (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/24/business/media/fox-news-seth-rich.html)
What is with this incessant need to try and find conspiracies where there aren't any and is no upside for keeping it alive?

the CNN link is very light on what the lawsuit was about... "pain and suffering" for a "sham" story.
Maybe i'm not seeing it all (cause it aint there even in the embedded links of the CNN story) but it looks like Fox and the 2 "investigators/reporters" they relied on actually made up & or misrepresented some portions of the story. By claiming one investigator said things that he didn't. That seems to be the primary "sham" portion the lawsuit turns on.

I suspect that if they had all simply stuck to the facts available the lawsuit would have failed.

But no one proved that Rich Didn't get the info from the DNC, & no one's proved that he did.
But there is still circumstantial evidence that makes it possible that he did.
Speculation is not a crime.
As painful as i might be to the family.

SO If the the local LEOs & or the FBI would release the info on Rich's Laptop and other media we could all be a bit closer to knowing what's what.



I thought they didn't have that info to begin with ... now they want 66 years to reveal data they don't have. Ugh!
They probably think everyone involved will be dead by then.

ok so Seth Rich was innocent but we can't see his laptop for 66 years.
and the FBI Didn't have it anyway just a copy of the drives... but maybe they did have it.
but it doesn't matter because theres nothing to see... for 66 years.

It's not like there was anything suspicious about his murder.
& It's not like the FBi ever hides anything, or they lied about various aspects of russiagate, or that any portion of the FBI was working against Trump leading up to and after 2016. Or that the FBi ever even looked at the DNC servers to prove Russia dood it.
So we can totally trust them... right?

Sorry FJ, it makes to sense to just 'tut tut' this away & assume the best here.

[fj1200]

Sorry FJ, it makes to sense to just 'tut tut' this away & assume the best here.

There's always something that will keep some folks insisting that there's something there. They didn't prove the negative which proves the positive right? :rolleyes:

[Gunny]

There's always something that will keep some folks insisting that there's something there. They didn't prove the negative which proves the positive right? :rolleyes:I'm not going to read this whole thing. Is there some conspiracy going on about a dead Dem? I can't seem to get my "give-a-shitter" working again :)

[revelarts]

There's always something that will keep some folks insisting that there's something there.


And there are always some people who just believe the gov't line.
Until the officials tell them the "new truth".
sad that 1984 is so dead on.



They didn't prove the negative which proves the positive right? :rolleyes:
And you somehow overlooked/haven't looked/don't see the evidence presented over the years that points in the direction of the positive.
"prove a negative". :rolleyes:

Look FJ, honest doubt is one thing but trusting the FBI's word on the issue the Rich case touches on at this point is ridiculous.
So please don't pretend there's nothing to see here.
When half of the reason we don't see as clearly as we could is because the known liars of FBI have decided not show us.

[fj1200]

^I'm pretty much going to put this with pizzagate, stolen elections, and how the Durham probe was going to exonerate all the trump stuff. Big fat nothings. I'll short the Seth Rich assassination story and retire a millionaire.

[SassyLady]

^I'm pretty much going to put this with pizzagate, stolen elections, and how the Durham probe was going to exonerate all the trump stuff. Big fat nothings. I'll short the Seth Rich assassination story and retire a millionaire.
Again, if it's a big fat nothing why did FBI ask to wait 66 years to publish it?

[fj1200]

Again, if it's a big fat nothing why did FBI ask to wait 66 years to publish it?

No idea other than pat FBI answers. I just can't compete with the conpiratorial minded.

[SassyLady]

No idea other than pat FBI answers. I just can't compete with the conpiratorial minded.
I'm sure you can't. Linear thinking is limiting.

[fj1200]

I'm sure you can't. Linear thinking is limiting.

:laugh: Do you ever go back and read the stuff you post? :laugh:

But really, how is this ridiculous exercise going to be different than the other ones I mentioned?

[SassyLady]

:laugh: Do you ever go back and read the stuff you post? :laugh:

But really, how is this ridiculous exercise going to be different than the other ones I mentioned?


It probably won't but you always want to have the last little dig and I like playing that game with you. I'm pretty stubborn and even though you've run off most of the posters here with your passive aggressive attitude I'm not going anywhere.

[fj1200]

It probably won't but you always want to have the last little dig and I like playing that game with you. I'm pretty stubborn and even though you've run off most of the posters here with your passive aggressive attitude I'm not going anywhere.

I'm sorry, who have I run off? Are you keeping a scorecard of folks who have been run off and who did the "running off"? I'd like to see that list.

But I must take issue, I know you're surprised, with my alleged "passive aggressive attitude." What I do is try to make logic based arguments and ask a lot of questions. Sometimes open ended statements are made that I feel need to be inquired about. Other times statements are made that are not exactly supported by the evidence. Those are two things that indicate a lack of logical basis for the arguments in question.

I suppose I don't shy away from getting in some digs but I tend to think they're in response to digs to me. As far as this Seth Rich thing goes, I don't see any upside to this cottage industry of seeing a conspiracy beyond a couple of people continuing to dig away with the FOIA request. If you can explain that to this "linear thinker" then I'd be most appreciative.