Leftist students to silence their opposition

[jimnyc]

A crackdown on riots and other related violence in NO WAY AT ALL is somehow threatening free speech, as violence and such is NOT speech.

I say break out the rubber bullets.

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Student Fears Crackdown on Anti-Free Speech Riots Threatens Free Speech

Riots at American colleges to prevent unpopular speakers are becoming more and more commonplace. Berkeley and Middlebury may well be the beginning of a new tactic with leftist students to silence their opposition.

Of course, new bills designed to prevent the rioting are being attacked on grounds that they ... infringe on students' freedom of speech:


The intent of these bills isn’t to protect student speech; it’s actually to suppress it in favor of guest speakers who, at times, support white nationalism, LGBTQ discrimination and other hateful worldviews. By funding the Phoenix-based Goldwater Institute, wealthy conservatives are enabling the promotion of hate speech while stifling student dissent.

Whether or not Koch, for example, agrees with the hate speech he indirectly sponsors, he certainly benefits from a more friendly academic environment for far-right ideologues who often deny climate change and praise his extreme brand of tax- and regulation-free capitalism.

The Goldwater Institute’s model bill allegedly ensures “the fullest degree of … free expression,” but it explicitly states that “protests and demonstrations that infringe upon the rights of others to engage in or listen to expressive activity shall not be permitted and shall be subject to sanction.”

It goes on to say, “Any student who has twice been found responsible for infringing the expressive rights of others will be suspended for a minimum of one year, or expelled.”

Under this code, imagine that a student protests a climate change denier and gets a brief suspension. Then the College Republicans group brings in a full-on white nationalist. Will this student do what she thinks is right and protest a racist who’s given a platform at a respected university, or stay home because she's risking expulsion?

This campus "free speech” legislation is essentially an attack on student speech and an elevation of ultra-conservative ideas that many people in university communities think have no place in American society.

Rest here - https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/03/20/student-fears-crackdown-on-anti-free-speech-riots-threatens-free-speech/

[BoogyMan]

A crackdown on riots and other related violence in NO WAY AT ALL is somehow threatening free speech, as violence and such is NOT speech.

I say break out the rubber bullets.

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Student Fears Crackdown on Anti-Free Speech Riots Threatens Free Speech

Riots at American colleges to prevent unpopular speakers are becoming more and more commonplace. Berkeley and Middlebury may well be the beginning of a new tactic with leftist students to silence their opposition.

Of course, new bills designed to prevent the rioting are being attacked on grounds that they ... infringe on students' freedom of speech:



Rest here - https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/03/20/student-fears-crackdown-on-anti-free-speech-riots-threatens-free-speech/

This is getting ridiculous. If you wish to see just HOW ridiculous check out Campus Reform (http://www.campusreform.org/). They chronicle the activities of the snowflake culture.

[jimnyc]

This is getting ridiculous. If you wish to see just HOW ridiculous check out Campus Reform (http://www.campusreform.org/). They chronicle the activities of the snowflake culture.

I've posted things from them before, but only articles I have found from others, I don't think I ever hit the "home page" before. And now I did. The first main article I see is "CA Dem proposes free abortion pills at public universities". And then followed up by "Safe space organizer doesn’t ‘feel safe’ describing event"

Oh my Lord. THIS is what is happening to our world. THIS is why SO MANY of us talk about kids being indoctrinated and what not. Fuck that, that's why we get VERY involved in my kids schooling and homework, and will be extremely involved in his college and where he goes. His choices his life, but he won't be going to those types of schools.

Insanity!

[BoogyMan]

I've posted things from them before, but only articles I have found from others, I don't think I ever hit the "home page" before. And now I did. The first main article I see is "CA Dem proposes free abortion pills at public universities". And then followed up by "Safe space organizer doesn’t ‘feel safe’ describing event"

Oh my Lord. THIS is what is happening to our world. THIS is why SO MANY of us talk about kids being indoctrinated and what not. Fuck that, that's why we get VERY involved in my kids schooling and homework, and will be extremely involved in his college and where he goes. His choices his life, but he won't be going to those types of schools.

Insanity!

This is most assuredly the downfall of what is left of our culture if it is allowed to go unchallenged. Those who seem to be all over Mr. Trump about alleged (read that as made up) collusionist ties to Russia seem to be the ones who are most tied to the ideologies of the old Soviet Union. Troubling for sure.

[Kathianne]

I've posted things from them before, but only articles I have found from others, I don't think I ever hit the "home page" before. And now I did. The first main article I see is "CA Dem proposes free abortion pills at public universities". And then followed up by "Safe space organizer doesn’t ‘feel safe’ describing event"

Oh my Lord. THIS is what is happening to our world. THIS is why SO MANY of us talk about kids being indoctrinated and what not. Fuck that, that's why we get VERY involved in my kids schooling and homework, and will be extremely involved in his college and where he goes. His choices his life, but he won't be going to those types of schools.

Insanity!

Best source I know to check how 'free' a university is. Those that have a good policy regarding free speech are also more likely to be traditional education facilities that encourage discourse whether popular or not.

https://www.thefire.org/

[jimnyc]

Best source I know to check how 'free' a university is. Those that have a good policy regarding free speech are also more likely to be traditional education facilities that encourage discourse whether popular or not.

https://www.thefire.org/

Ok, bookmarked. But help me right off the bat!! I did a search on this school but not sure what I'm looking for here. From what I read elsewhere, it's not easy to get in here, so this may not be an issue anyway! LOL But what do you know or can see about:

rensselaer polytechnic institute

[Kathianne]

Ok, bookmarked. But help me right off the bat!! I did a search on this school but not sure what I'm looking for here. From what I read elsewhere, it's not easy to get in here, so this may not be an issue anyway! LOL But what do you know or can see about:

rensselaer polytechnic institute

They don't fare well regarding 'free speech' and related policies. Several 'red' and 'yellow.' If I had a son I'd be especially watchful of the 'sex language' and 'harassment' policies. Way too much Title IX problems have reared their heads and being charged has basically resulted in convictions without trials or due process.

That's my opinion at least.

Here's University of Chicago: https://www.thefire.org/schools/university-of-chicago/

At one point they got a 'yellow' on a policy, they fixed it.

[jimnyc]

They don't fare well regarding 'free speech' and related policies. Several 'red' and 'yellow.' If I had a son I'd be especially watchful of the 'sex language' and 'harassment' policies. Way too much Title IX problems have reared their heads and being charged has basically resulted in convictions without trials or due process.

That's my opinion at least.

Here's University of Chicago: https://www.thefire.org/schools/university-of-chicago/

At one point they got a 'yellow' on a policy, they fixed it.

Interesting, and thanks! I may need your input as the time gets closer. I think I read that his first choice there you need an SAT of like 1420 or above. I think the boy will score well, but that's an awfully high score! But I thought it would be a good school if he could get in as the distance north of here isn't that crazy. Either that, or UCONN is on the list too.

[Kathianne]

Interesting, and thanks! I may need your input as the time gets closer. I think I read that his first choice there you need an SAT of like 1420 or above. I think the boy will score well, but that's an awfully high score! But I thought it would be a good school if he could get in as the distance north of here isn't that crazy. Either that, or UCONN is on the list too.

Good luck with the whole process! If he chooses a school that doesn't have good 'free speech' and has many restrictive policies, just make doubly sure he understands all the repercussions that may happen.

[gabosaurus]

A school is what you make of it. In every college, there are going to be left-leaning groups and right-leaning groups. When I went to Cal, there were as many conservative organizations as there were liberal organizations. I hung out with a lot of conservative kids, because a lot of smart nerdy kids come from wealthy, conservative families. And we had great discussions. We got mildly intoxicated a few times and complained that jocks had it easier than we did. :cool:

[Gunny]

A school is what you make of it. In every college, there are going to be left-leaning groups and right-leaning groups. When I went to Cal, there were as many conservative organizations as there were liberal organizations. I hung out with a lot of conservative kids, because a lot of smart nerdy kids come from wealthy, conservative families. And we had great discussions. We got mildly intoxicated a few times and complained that jocks had it easier than we did. :cool:

So THAT is your problem? You went to Cal? Your idea of a conservative is a leftist 'round here. And in the Marines. And in most of the world.

[Kathianne]

Universities across the board have changed greatly since even the early 2000's. Speech is but one part. While most of us had many more liberal professors than conservative, it was a given that good questions, substantive arguments were not only encouraged, but expected. Indeed there were reasons to often play 'devil's advocate' if discussions were faltering.

This is no longer the case on the vast majority of campuses. In many handbooks it is becoming normal for students to be advised that they need to check their words with care, to not cause anguish to someone with a very different life experience than themselves. Not even going into the whole student enforced 'privilege' nonsense. Indeed, one has a better chance to find a decent discussion in your local coffee house than on many college campuses.

[BoogyMan]

A school is what you make of it. In every college, there are going to be left-leaning groups and right-leaning groups. When I went to Cal, there were as many conservative organizations as there were liberal organizations. I hung out with a lot of conservative kids, because a lot of smart nerdy kids come from wealthy, conservative families. And we had great discussions. We got mildly intoxicated a few times and complained that jocks had it easier than we did. :cool:

Interesting attempt to avoid discussing the absolute communist bent that we are seeing in schools all over America. Read and weep (http://www.campusreform.org/).

[gabosaurus]

So THAT is your problem? You went to Cal? Your idea of a conservative is a leftist 'round here. And in the Marines. And in most of the world.

You haven't experienced "most of the world." You have only experienced a very narrow portion.

[gabosaurus]

Interesting attempt to avoid discussing the absolute communist bent that we are seeing in schools all over America. Read and weep (http://www.campusreform.org/).

I feel quite refuted by a conservative alarmist site. :rolleyes: I would rather hear personal viewpoints from your college life and activities.

[Gunny]

You haven't experienced "most of the world." You have only experienced a very narrow portion.I got news for you. I've lived on almost every continent in the world. Where have YOU ever been? To the beach? Maybe? You are so out of your league on this one it's below pathetic. I've been just about everywhere. give or take a few.

But I'll narrow this down for your simple little brain because posting where I've been would take forever. I've lived in more places than YOU in California alone. So you can stuff THAT up your backside.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

This is most assuredly the downfall of what is left of our culture if it is allowed to go unchallenged. Those who seem to be all over Mr. Trump about alleged (read that as made up) collusionist ties to Russia seem to be the ones who are most tied to the ideologies of the old Soviet Union. Troubling for sure.

Nothing shocking about that. Wolf in sheep's disguise has always been a part of leftist ideology and the gaining of power by despots.
Socialism has been hard and heavy into changing our higher education system. They have taken control of it, by and large, by the mid eighties, IMHO.
We are very likely to start our son being home-schooled next year--with my the over-all instructor..
As I want him to be raised to be a real man, not some wimpy, plastic crybaby poser (not lib taught to at public school, be a damn coward)..
My son has fire in his blood-line and natural-born courage--I'll not see that tremendous positive, destroyed by morons and idiots that are scared of their own damn shadows.-Tyr