Trump Wants to Build 30-Foot-High Wall at Mexican Border

[jimnyc]

I'll be curious to see what bids are put in for this. But more curious, how much the cost will be, and how the funds will be paid for. I have read perhaps through the military bill. Then I read via confiscations. No matter how, that's the difficult part, and I hope it happens. I'm not letting Trump off the hook by any means, but he also unfortunately needs some help from the congress bastards.

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Trump Wants to Build 30-Foot-High Wall at Mexican Border

The Trump administration wants to build a 30-foot-high border wall that looks good from the north side and is difficult to climb or cut through, according to a pair of contract notices posted to a government website further detailing President Donald Trump's promise to build a "big, beautiful wall" at the Mexican border.

The notices were made public late Friday by Customs and Border Protection, the Homeland Security Department agency that will oversee the project and eventually patrol and maintain the wall. The proposals are due to the government by March 29.

One of the CBP contract requests calls for a solid concrete wall, while the other asks for proposals for a see-through structure. Both require the wall to sunk at least six feet into the ground and include 25- and 50-foot automated gates for pedestrians and vehicles. The proposed wall must also be built in a such a way that it would take at least an hour to cut through it with a "sledgehammer, car jack, pick axe, chisel, battery operated impact tools, battery operated cutting tools, Oxy/acetylene torch or other similar hand-held tools."

The government will award a contract based on 30-foot-wide sample walls that are to be built in San Diego.

This is the second time the Trump administration has asked for private companies to bid on building the wall. Last month CPB put out a call for "concept papers" to design and build prototypes by March 10.

Rest here - http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/US-Border-Wall/2017/03/18/id/779468/

[Abbey Marie]

You just know that whatever company builds will be vilified and boycotted like we've never seen before. Called racist, etc.

[Elessar]

Cannot do it with a 'military' tag on it.

Homeland Security, yes.

[gabosaurus]

A 30-foot border wall? :laugh2:

If you add in all the costs, a wall of such proportions could cost up to $40 billion of your tax dollars.

Compiled from multiple sources. Feel free to look them up.

[jimnyc]

A 30-foot border wall? :laugh2:

If you add in all the costs, a wall of such proportions could cost up to $40 billion of your tax dollars.

Compiled from multiple sources. Feel free to look them up.

I don't mind the cost. The cost of NOT doing something is much higher. Put up a HUGE wall. Then send anyone back with a criminal record, especially felons. Then bombard employers that are hiring illegals for their own gain and shut them down.

I am going to be THRILLED to fork over some of my tax dollars to see this sucker go up, I have absolutely no issue with that.

[jimnyc]

Here's a fairly recent estimate showing it at $21 well spent billion dollars.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-immigration-wall-exclusive-idUSKBN15O2ZN

[gabosaurus]

I don't mind the cost. The cost of NOT doing something is much higher. Put up a HUGE wall. Then send anyone back with a criminal record, especially felons. Then bombard employers that are hiring illegals for their own gain and shut them down.

I am going to be THRILLED to fork over some of my tax dollars to see this sucker go up, I have absolutely no issue with that.

You want to REALLY stop immigration? Give money to Mexico and help them arrest the coyotes who head up human smuggling rings. Most immigrants can't manage by themselves. The coyotes are the ones that bribe border agents and stuff produce trucks with people. Mexico can't keep up with them.
You won't need ANY wall if you shut down the employers who hire illegals. Trump won't do that because it is anti-business.

[jimnyc]

You want to REALLY stop immigration? Give money to Mexico and help them arrest the coyotes who head up human smuggling rings. Most immigrants can't manage by themselves. The coyotes are the ones that bribe border agents and stuff produce trucks with people. Mexico can't keep up with them.
You won't need ANY wall if you shut down the employers who hire illegals. Trump won't do that because it is anti-business.

I would say do that in ADDITION to the wall. Nail them in every aspect and angle possible. Get those helping folks get across the border, of course build the wall (there's a reason SO many nations have walls), get rid of criminals, come down hard on employers...

If the illegals can't get here because of a wall and other methods of stopping illegals from entering the country, then those employers won't get to employ them... so it's stupid to say Trump is anti-business as a result, when he will be the one stopping these folks from getting employed by these businesses.

[Gunny]

A 30-foot border wall? :laugh2:

If you add in all the costs, a wall of such proportions could cost up to $40 billion of your tax dollars.

Compiled from multiple sources. Feel free to look them up.

Be a lot easier if you lefty losers would just enforce the law.

[Abbey Marie]

You want to REALLY stop immigration? Give money to Mexico and help them arrest the coyotes who head up human smuggling rings. Most immigrants can't manage by themselves. The coyotes are the ones that bribe border agents and stuff produce trucks with people. Mexico can't keep up with them.

You won't need ANY wall if you shut down the employers who hire illegals. Trump won't do that because it is anti-business.


From what I understand, Mexico isn't really trying that hard to stop these guys. I suspect that we could literally burn that money, and it will be just as well spent.

And as to the second point, the worst sorts will still come happily here and do illegal stuff. They don't want legit jobs anyway.

[Black Diamond]

You want to REALLY stop immigration? Give money to Mexico and help them arrest the coyotes who head up human smuggling rings. Most immigrants can't manage by themselves. The coyotes are the ones that bribe border agents and stuff produce trucks with people. Mexico can't keep up with them.
You won't need ANY wall if you shut down the employers who hire illegals. Trump won't do that because it is anti-business.
And you won't enforce the law because you hate America.

Also, if trump only cared about business, he would have wide open borders.

[jimnyc]

The only $40 billion I see was an earlier estimate from MIT. Here is what I see as the latest:

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Trump wants to build 30-foot-high wall at Mexican border

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Trump administration wants to build a 30-foot-high border wall that looks good from the north side and is difficult to climb or cut through, according to a pair of contract notices posted to a government website further detailing President Donald Trump's promise to build a "big, beautiful wall" at the Mexican border.

The notices were made public late Friday by Customs and Border Protection, the Homeland Security Department agency that will oversee the project and eventually patrol and maintain the wall. The proposals are due to the government by March 29.

One of the CBP contract requests calls for a solid concrete wall, while the other asks for proposals for a see-through structure. Both require the wall to sunk at least six feet into the ground and include 25- and 50-foot automated gates for pedestrians and vehicles. The proposed wall must also be built in a such a way that it would take at least an hour to cut through it with a "sledgehammer, car jack, pick axe, chisel, battery operated impact tools, battery operated cutting tools, Oxy/acetylene torch or other similar hand-held tools."

The government will award a contract based on 30-foot-wide sample walls that are to be built in San Diego.

This is the second time the Trump administration has asked for private companies to bid on building the wall. Last month CPB put out a call for "concept papers" to design and build prototypes by March 10.

Trump has bragged in recent days that the wall is ahead of schedule, though it's unclear from the latest contract notices if any firms have submitted wall proposals or if any such submissions have been rejected.

The government has not said where the wall will be built, though the contract notices suggest some pieces of a new wall could replace existing fencing that stretches over about 700 miles of the roughly 2,000-mile border. The current fencing of mixed construction, including 15-foot steel posts set inches apart that are designed to keep people from crossing and shorter posts that are intended to block cars. Border Patrol agents are constantly repairing holes in the structure.

Trump has long promised that Mexico would pay for the wall, which he has said is necessary to stop the flow of immigrants crossing the border illegally and drug smugglers.

This week the president sent a budget proposal to Congress that included a $2.6 billion down payment for the wall. The total cost for the project is unclear, but the Government Accountability Office estimates it would cost about $6.5 million a mile for fence to keep pedestrians from crossing the border and about $1.8 million a mile for a vehicle barrier.

Congressional Republicans have said Trump's wall would cost between $12 billion and $15 billion and Trump has suggested $12 billion.

An internal report prepared for Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly estimated the cost of building a wall along the entire U.S.-Mexico border at about $21 billion, according to a U.S. government official who is involved in border issues. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the report has not been made public.

That report proposed an initial phase that would extend fences 26 miles and a second wave that would add 151 miles, plus 272 "replacement" miles where fences are already installed, according to the official. Those two phases would cost $5 billion.

It is unclear how soon Congress might act on that request or how much money lawmakers will ultimately approve for the wall. Democrats and some Republicans have said a border-long wall is unnecessary.

The Department of Homeland Security reported earlier this month that the number of border arrests dropped about 44 percent from January to February, the lowest monthly tallies since at the least the start of the 2012 budget year.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_BORDER_WALL?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-03-18-11-33-28

[LongTermGuy]

You just know that whatever company builds will be vilified and boycotted like we've never seen before. Called racist, etc.


Who cares...besides leftist....and Parasites...We need it....Put the thing up...make it high tech...with plenty of Man power...cut parasite Benefits ...fine companies that hire Parasites... and take it day by day...Let ICE do their job...search and find... day in day out...

[LongTermGuy]

A 30-foot border wall? :laugh2:

If you add in all the costs, a wall of such proportions could cost up to $40 billion of your tax dollars.

Compiled from multiple sources. Feel free to look them up.

Knowing Trump...wall just went up 10 more feet....for Liberal Ignorance..

What ever it takes...keep the parasites out and shut down their expensive Benefits...No more....Make the SnoFlakes cry some more...defund sanctuary cities... arrest and Prosecute the ignorant Leftist running California for breaking the law...and not complying....

[Little-Acorn]

A 30-foot border wall? :laugh2:

If you add in all the costs, a wall of such proportions could cost up to $40 billion of your tax dollars.

Compiled from multiple sources. Feel free to look them up.

In other words, less than half of what we spend on welfare for illegal aliens, hospital care for illegal aliens, "free" schooling for their children, jailing and court costs for the illegal aliens who commit crimes, every year. Plus whatever you want to claim it "costs" in lives of those killed by illegal aliens, trauma suffered by those assaulted, injured, robbed etc. by illegal aliens, etc.

Sounds like a bargain!

[gabosaurus]

Several of the budgets projected are the cost of building the wall itself. Doesn't take into account the cost of buying the land or cost of the labor itself. Not to mention the cost of security when drug cartels start sniping at workers from the mountains.

http://fortune.com/2017/01/25/donald-trump-mexico-wall-cost/

[Abbey Marie]

Several of the budgets projected are the cost of building the wall itself. Doesn't take into account the cost of buying the land or cost of the labor itself. Not to mention the cost of security when drug cartels start sniping at workers from the mountains.

http://fortune.com/2017/01/25/donald-trump-mexico-wall-cost/


I'll bet the ranchers on the border will happily donate the land.

[Gunny]

You want to REALLY stop immigration? Give money to Mexico and help them arrest the coyotes who head up human smuggling rings. Most immigrants can't manage by themselves. The coyotes are the ones that bribe border agents and stuff produce trucks with people. Mexico can't keep up with them.
You won't need ANY wall if you shut down the employers who hire illegals. Trump won't do that because it is anti-business.

Oh, THERE's a plan *rolls eyes*. Let's give the country bitching the most about busting its illegals some money. That's as brilliant as it's okay for Iran to have nukes.