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Drummond
01-13-2017, 07:18 AM
Offered for general debate ... but of course ... but aimed also specifically at Balu, for his insight(s).

So ... @Balu (http://www.debatepolicy.com/member.php?u=3557) ... tell us your thoughts on the following report ...

https://meduza.io/en/news/2017/01/11/russian-duma-approves-bill-on-decriminalization-of-domestic-violence-in-first-reading


The State Duma approved a bill on the decriminalization of domestic violence in its first reading on Wednesday with 368 pro-votes, 1 vote against, and 1 abstention. The bill – which will now be prepared for its second reading – would exclude domestic violence from Russia’s Criminal Code, thereby no longer making it a felony.

The bill proposes making domestic violence – specifically defined as the beating of a relative – an civil offense, with criminal liability applicable in only those cases when the offense is committed two or more times in the same year.

It will still be considered a criminal offense if domestic violence is perpetrated as an act of hooliganism or is motivated by hatred or enmity. In such cases, perpetrators could be sentenced to compulsory work or to up to two years in prison.

Whether or not this could have any bearing on the subject, especially considering the political stranglehold Putin exercises over life in Russia ... again, maybe Balu could comment (I acknowledge that this is an old report) ... ?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/8865545/Vladimir-Putin-a-wife-beater-and-philanderer-documents-allege.html


Vladimir Putin abused his wife and "had numerous sexual affairs" when he was a high-ranking KGB officer in Dresden, German secret service documents have alleged.

The documents from the archive of the BND, Germany's spy agency, paint a dark picture of the Russian prime minister, who plans to return to the presidency next year.

Gathering information through the work of an agent posing as an interpreter for Ludmilla Putina, Mr Putin's wife, the BND heard that the then youthful 33-year-old spy chief was a "wife beater and a philanderer" during his stint in the German city from 1985 to 1990.

The information surfaced in a story run by the newspaper Berliner Zeitung based on documents found by Erich Schmidt-Eenboom, a respected BND expert who has published books and papers on the agency.

Balu
01-13-2017, 08:27 AM
Drummond,
First, do read yourself the article you give a link to.

Articles about perpetrating domestic violence without giving reasons were transferred to Russia’s Civil Code in the summer of 2016 to correct what was seen as discrepancy between punishment for domestic violence and beatings on the street, as the latter were already considered a civil offense.

I don't think that this subject is of your professional interest as it is not about 'wife beating' but about elimination of inconsistencies of application of Article 116 of the Criminal Code in respect of third parties and members of a family of a person violating the Law.
If you are interested, please use the electronic translator and delve deeper into the issue. I have neither intention, nor wish to translate it for you.
Regards.

http://rapsinews.ru/legislation_news/20170111/277545383.html

Drummond
01-13-2017, 10:14 AM
Drummond,
First, do read yourself the article you give a link to.


I don't think that this subject is of your professional interest as it is not about 'wife beating' but about elimination of inconsistencies of application of Article 116 of the Criminal Code in respect of third parties and members of a family of a person violating the Law.
If you are interested, please use the electronic translator and delve deeper into the issue. I have neither intention, nor wish to translate it for you.
Regards.

http://rapsinews.ru/legislation_news/20170111/277545383.html

I first learned of this news this morning ... on LBC, which is London's radio news station. They are in no doubt that wife beating is included, and this is how they introduced the entire subject. So I consider my thread title, even if it doesn't include all aspects of the story, as accurate.

Why do you say this falls outside of my 'professional interest' .. ? Am I not entitled to raise the matter as a discussion subject ? You give the impression of disapproving of my thread. Which is curious, as I was unaware that I needed your approval in the first place !!

But all of this aside, you can surely not deny that issues of domestic violence in Russia ARE actually being downgraded in law, and are losing their previous criminal status. Unless, of course, you just dismiss this all as an attempt at anti-Russian 'propaganda' .. ?

What I'd now like from you is your insight as to WHY this is happening in Russia. Why now ? Why isn't it possible for domestic violence to be officially regarded with the same criminal severity as it was before ?