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Balu

12-26-2016, 09:24 AM

December 21, 2016
Trump Begins To Move 370 Elite Troops From Russia To Protect His Life And Family
By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers
An intriguing Federal Security Service (FSB (http://www.fsb.ru/)) information bulletin circulating in the Kremlin today reports that the Security Council (SC (http://en.kremlin.ru/structure/security-council)) has authorized the Monarch Air Group (http://monarchairgroup.com/moscow-private-jet-and-air-charter-flights/) to use 7 private charter flights to move “special resources” to New York City and Washington D.C. beginning on 20 January 2017 in order to fulfill a contract with the Moscow based private security company RSB-Group (http://rsb-group.org/)—and who, in turn, were contracted with this past week by President-elect Donald Trump to “protect his person, family and properties” from the “demonic globalist elites (http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/24173-globalism-is-demonic-theologians-say)” seeking his destruction. [Note: Some words and/or phrases appearing in quotes in this report are English language approximations of Russian words/phrases having no exact counterpart.]

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According to this bulletin, on 12 December, two senior advisors to President-elect Trump, former US Congressman Jack Kingston (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Kingston) and American oil industry consultant Carter Page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carter_Page), arrived in Moscow with Congressman Kingston conducting a briefing with Federation business executives on the incoming Trump administration (http://www.npr.org/2016/12/14/505581348/trumps-men-in-moscow-trump-disciples-suddenly-showing-up-in-russia), and Mr. Carter meeting with top officials of the Sputnik News organization (https://sputniknews.com/world/201612121048459671-carter-page-trump-adviser-presentation-moscow/).
After completing their separate duties, this bulletin continues, Congressman Kingston and Mr. Carter then met privately with RSB Group CEO Oleg Krinitsyn—whom Mr. Carter was long acquainted with from when he served as a US Marine intelligence officer in the Western Saharan African nation of Senegal (https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/trump-advisers-public-comments-ties-to-moscow-stir-unease-in-both-parties/2016/08/05/2e8722fa-5815-11e6-9aee-8075993d73a2_story.html?utm_term=.159841840d8d) where the RSB Group maintains one of its many global offices (http://rsb-group.org/contacts) fighting Islamic terrorists throughout the Middle East and Africa (https://southfront.org/10-20000-employees-of-private-military-russian-companies-will-reverse-the-course-of-history-in-syria/).

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From the non-classified portions of this FSB bulletin we’re allowed to report on, the “deal/agreement/contract” signed by President-elect Trump’s two representatives allow the RSB Group to integrate “manpower and resources” with a shadowy American private security named KS Global Group LLC (https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_de/5842960) that was established on 5 October 2015 and that US press reports state provides security to President-elect Trump and his family (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/inside-trumps-security-juggernaut-221543).
From the “main/initial” agreement signed between President-elect Trump’s representatives and the RSB Group, this bulletin further details, additional agreements were signed with the private American private security companies Black Tie Protection Services (http://www.btpsinc.com/), ASIT Consulting (http://firearm-dealers.armsrack.com/l/119526/Asit-Consulting-LLC), XMark LLC (http://xmark2.com/) and Ultra Electronics USSI (http://www.ultra-ussi.com/) (that has an existing relationship with the RBS Group (http://rsb-group.org/news/rsb-groups-in-united-states))—all of whom are part the astounding 11 private mercenary companies now guarding Trump (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/09/12/11-private-security-firms-guarding-donald-trump.html), and that American leftists are now comparing to the Waffen-SS that protected Adolf Hitler’s Nazi Party (http://dailycaller.com/2016/12/20/salon-compares-trumps-private-security-to-hitlers-ss/) in pre-World War II Germany.

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Important to note about President-elect Trump’s American private security companies, this bulletin continues, is that XMark LLC specializes in the use of special forces troops, ASIT Consulting is one of the United States top experts on the importing of specialized weapons, and Ultra Electronics USSI has the reputation of being a global leader in the futuristic use of electronic and acoustic weapons—and when all combined under RBS Group leadership, presents one of the most formidable private mercenary armies the world has ever known.
Though the exact number of RBS Group personnel and types of military equipment (weapons, communication systems, etc.) being flown out of Moscow on 20 January to the United States to protect President-elect Trump are not contained in this FSB bulletin, we find it more than curious that just two days ago the Ministery of Defense (MoD (http://eng.mil.ru/)) sent out an advisory notice that disappeared 370 ultra-elite GRU Special Forces troops from its active troop role—and who are known as one of the most renowned, formidable, and deeply respected special forces soldiers in the world (http://russia-insider.com/en/military/rare-interview-ex-officer-russian-elite-military-intelligence-service-spetsnaz-gru/ri7575).

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With it being entirely possible that these elite GRU Special Forces have been tasked somewhere else (Syria/Iraq/Turkey) by the MoD, their perfect English language abilities, and knowledge of America, make it much more likely that they are now working for the RBS Group to protect the life of President-elect Trump with direct Security Council approval—at least in our opinion.
And as President-elect Trump’s war against the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA (https://www.cia.gov/index.html)) has now escalated to the point that America’s new leader won’t even allow his wife and young child to come anywhere near the White House when he assumes power (http://theweek.com/speedreads/665545/melania-trump-stay-behind-new-york-ivanka-trump-jared-kushner-move-dc), this FSB bulletin concludes, Trump has most certainly learned the “cold/frozen” lesson of what happened to President’s John Kennedy (publically executed (https://www.maryferrell.org/pages/The_CIA_and_the_JFK_Assassination.html)) and Ronald Reagan (survived execution but was never the same again (https://chemtrailsplanet.net/2014/12/27/hinckley-reagan-assassination-hit-man-for-the-shadow-government/)) when they, likewise, attempted to stop the CIA and its elite warmonger backers from making perpetual war on the world (http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2011/05/how-perpetual-war-became-us-ideology/238600/) for sake of arms sales that have enriched these monsters by the trillions-of-dollars for over two generations, while at the same killing millions.

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Balu

12-26-2016, 09:51 AM

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About the companyPrivate Military Company is a company, which implements statutory tasks in the high risk areas, specifically in the areas with combat operations. The actions of the company’s stuff are not assailant, but restrictive; it allows arranging preventive actions. These actions are needed for supporting main armed forces of the country, according to the general command.
Private Military Company RSB-Group (Russian Security Systems) was founded by a professional military man, reserve officer of the Russian Border Service. He has a great practical battle and command experience gained on the Tajik-Afghan border.
The company’s activities are strictly carried out according to the Russian Laws and also according to the Laws of the countries, where we protect the interests of the Russian companies. Essentially we do not take part in the armed conflicts like mercenaries and we do not organize consultations for the companies and groups, which might be related to the terrorist organizations. We also do not take part in the overthrows of government and other actions, which can break International laws and Conventions.
There is a licensed private security company for implementing the tasks on the territory of the Russian Federation and a private intelligence company for the information and analytical work. There is over 30 stuff workers operation on different directions (operational managers, lawyers, team leaders, and heads of different departments). RSB-Group starts working only after the official agreement of the controlling authorities, and after we get all the needed documents and licenses in the country of residence.
For implementing of the most difficult task, that need the first response and acts in every part of the world, RSB-Group is actively cooperating with the private military company from New Zealand NavSec International Ltd.
Why should you choose rsb-group as a basic provider of security services:RSB-Group works according to the following legislative frames:

UNO Security Council Resolution N 1816;
UNO Security Council Resolution N 1838;
UNO United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (Art. 105)
Charter of the UNO (Art.51)
Code of conduct of the International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement.

We have considerable advantages over other russian and international security companies:

We are an official partner and supplier of security services for the United Nations. Our registration number: 403872
RSB-Group has a third party liability insurance for $ 5 000 000.
We are working according to the signed International Code of Conduct for Private Security Companies, signed in Geneve, Switzerland.
RSB-Group is working strictly according to the needed agreements and permits which are needed for the storage of weapon abroad.
Pur officers have Seafarers’ identity cards, and finished special courses SOLAS and ship security officer.
We have a certificate of conformity of quality management system ISO 9001-2008 (9001: 2011), which confirms our high standards in the conduct of ground and naval operations and armed protection of ships against pirates in areas with a high terrorist activity.
None of the vessels protected by maritime security teams RSB-Group was captured by the pirates.
Our maritime security team comply with the requirements given by Insurance company Ingosstrakh, that means that those clients who have insured military and some other risks concerning the transits through the High Risk Areas in the Indian Ocean, have the right to lessen the insurance premium in Insurance company Ingosstrakh in case they present a contract.
Only in RSB-Group are working reserve officers and high professionals, who have a unique experience of working in Iraq, Afghanistan, Middle East, Tajikistan, West Africa, North Caucasus and Serbia, etc.
Our specialists have unique knowledge concerning the disclosure and mine cleaning of the homemade explosive devices.

24 Hours per day, 7 days per week a well-coordinated and professional team RSB-Group is working for you.
RSB-Group is an exclusive official dealer of the acoustic hailing devices in the former USSR countries and in Sri Lanka, which is produced by American corporation ULTRA ELECTRONICS USSI.

http://rsb-group.org/

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot

12-26-2016, 10:43 AM

Gunny

12-26-2016, 01:58 PM

On this I have not a clue what it means.
However, if it means a group is going to take on the globalists- then I say more power to them regardless of what nation they hail from.
And that is because I firmly believe that the globalists are allied with muslims.
Both working together to weaken America.
And that I can not abide..--Tyr

I hear ya. what the Hell does this thread mean? If it is referring to evacuating noncombatant personnel, that is standard operating procedure in areas considered a risk. I can recall getting whipped out of Turkey so fast in 63 I think I got whiplash. As a Marne (or Sailor as a few can attest) we've sat off the coast more than twice waiting for an evac order.

I don't know what the rest of that gibberish means.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot

12-26-2016, 02:16 PM

I hear ya. what the Hell does this thread mean? If it is referring to evacuating noncombatant personnel, that is standard operating procedure in areas considered a risk. I can recall getting whipped out of Turkey so fast in 63 I think I got whiplash. As a Marne (or Sailor as a few can attest) we've sat off the coast more than twice waiting for an evac order.

I don't know what the rest of that gibberish means.

To me, I get that its about a private military force, type services and what that entails.
My thing is, if Putin and/or this private group takes on to fight the globalists-then count me in as a supporter- just as I support Putin aiding Assad against the muslim radical terrorists in the Syrian conflict= muslims the traitor obama supported!
Islam is our enemy, not Russia, just as China poses a far greater threat to us than Russia does, - IMHO..--Tyr

fj1200

12-26-2016, 02:20 PM

Who are these globalists who have a standing army? :confused:

Gunny

12-26-2016, 02:38 PM

Who are these globalists who have a standing army? :confused:

You going to pick 1 or 3, or make me do it?

fj1200

12-26-2016, 02:40 PM

You going to pick 1 or 3, or make me do it?

You're up to bat.

Gunny

12-26-2016, 02:51 PM

You're up to bat.

All of the major powers have standing armies. The only swerve to them is alliances that seem to change when the wind blows. Compare WWI alliances to present day. A ;ot of self interest involved.

As far a standing global army goes, it exists, but again is based on self interest.

aboutime

12-26-2016, 03:01 PM

Now that we are about to finally get a REAL Commander-in-Chief to lead our Military. All of the possible suggestions, or threats of a GLOBAL military taking over anything is...as we say here in America...BULLSHIT.
Our new president will use OUR military, and all of it's power to PREVENT any other nation, or collection of nations who DARE to create, or use what you call a GLOBAL Military.

IT IS "NOT" GOING TO HAPPEN, now that Obama is on his way out, and making noises like he plans to UNDERMINE the Trump Presidency...bordering on TREASON from the supporter, and pretender of the Muslim Brotherhood, with George Soros...all of whom need to have their MEDICAL RECORDS..."TERMINATED".

CSM

12-27-2016, 06:48 AM

Balu

12-27-2016, 07:02 AM

Interesting but not surprising. Once you get past the propaganda crap (Trump's war with the CIA??? LOL) it makes sense that Trump would hire security firms to protect his global business interests. I seriously doubt the Secret Service is just going to step aside for a bunch of former Russian soldiers turned mercenary. Does anyone really believe that Trump moved 370 elite active duty troops from Russia? I wonder how Putin feels about that?

That's why the title of the thread is "What does it mean?"
I understand our Special Forces in Washington or your Marines in Moscow are to guard our Embassies, but to provide a guard to the Head of such a country as the USA... it sounds very strange and even puzzle me, if it is True.

CSM

12-27-2016, 07:14 AM

That's why the title of the thread is "What does it mean?"
I understand our Special Forces in Washington or your Marines in Moscow are to guard our Embassies, but to provide a guard to the Head of such a country as the USA... it sounds very strange and even puzzle me, if it is True.

I suspect that some of this is mistranslated (I presume from Russian to English) but to me, after reading through the article and the follow-up you posted, this more about Trump beefing up his business organization's security. It certainly makes sense from that perspective. Make no mistake, there is a lot of propaganda bullshit in the first article as well. I have no doubt some will buy into it.

Balu

12-27-2016, 07:32 AM

I suspect that some of this is mistranslated (I presume from Russian to English) but to me, after reading through the article and the follow-up you posted, this more about Trump beefing up his business organization's security. It certainly makes sense from that perspective. Make no mistake, there is a lot of propaganda bullshit in the first article as well. I have no doubt some will buy into it.
I've already said that all this sounds strange for me. And I don't think that there could be any 'mistranslation' of a phrase “protect his person, family and properties”. It is simple even for a schoolboy of the 4th Grade. So, I am just wondering.

CSM

12-27-2016, 07:48 AM

I've already said that all this sounds strange for me. And I don't think that there could be any 'mistranslation' of a phrase “protect his person, family and properties”. It is simple even for a schoolboy of the 4th Grade. So, I am just wondering.

I understand.

Obviously, Trump has had private security firms protecting himself, his family and his properties all along. Now that he is to be POTUS, it only makes sense that he would beef up that security. Let me say again, I do not believe that Trump hired ANY private security firm (Russian or otherwise) to protect him in the White House. I would certainly expect him and others of his ilk to hire security firms to protect his businesses across the globe. He would be foolish not to.

Balu

12-27-2016, 08:04 AM

I understand.

Obviously, Trump has had private security firms protecting himself, his family and his properties all along. Now that he is to be POTUS, it only makes sense that he would beef up that security. Let me say again, I do not believe that Trump hired ANY private security firm (Russian or otherwise) to protect him in the White House. I would certainly expect him and others of his ilk to hire security firms to protect his businesses across the globe. He would be foolish not to.

It is becoming more clear. Thanks. To enforce the protection of his property by Russian "Spetsnaz" may look reasonable. But I don't think that they may be engaged in his personal protection as routs and time of any president moving and structure and organization of a president security is a 'Top secret information', 'For eyes only'.

CSM

12-27-2016, 08:14 AM

It is becoming more clear. Thanks. To enforce the protection of his property by Russian "Spetsnaz" may look reasonable. But I don't think that they may be engaged in his personal protection as routs and time of any president moving and structure and organization of a president security is a 'Top secret information', 'For eyes only'.

Agreed.

I will say however, that one could speculate that some employees of a private security firm may be former Russian Spetsnaz, US Green Beret or other special operations personnel, I sincerely doubt that ANY are currently active duty. I also sincerely doubt that the KGB will be replacing the Secret Service, FBI or CIA any time soon or vice versa.

Balu

12-27-2016, 08:37 AM

Agreed.

I will say however, that one could speculate that some employees of a private security firm may be former Russian Spetsnaz, US Green Beret or other special operations personnel, I sincerely doubt that ANY are currently active duty. I also sincerely doubt that the KGB will be replacing the Secret Service, FBI or CIA any time soon or vice versa.
For your information. There is no KGB in Russia since 1991(!). There is 'FSB' and 'FSO', directly engaged in security of top level State persons.

CSM

12-27-2016, 08:40 AM

For your information. There is no KGB in Russia since 1991(!). There is 'FSB' and 'FSO', directly engaged in security of top level State persons.

I used KGB intentionally BECAUSE it no longer exists.... and because many Americans would not understand FSB and FSO....

CSM

12-27-2016, 08:46 AM

For those who don't know, the FSB is one of few organizations that replaced the KGB. It appears to be a combination of the FBI and CIA. The FSO is more akin to the US Secret Service.

fj1200

12-27-2016, 09:17 AM

All of the major powers have standing armies. The only swerve to them is alliances that seem to change when the wind blows. Compare WWI alliances to present day. A ;ot of self interest involved.

As far a standing global army goes, it exists, but again is based on self interest.

Seems to be the same shadow army for the shadow globalists and their shadow agenda.

Balu

12-27-2016, 09:32 AM

For those who don't know, the FSB is one of few organizations that replaced the KGB. It appears to be a combination of the FBI and CIA. The FSO is more akin to the US Secret Service.
Well...
Judging by the fragments of his posts in quotes of the others, our Honey-Gunny looks rather funny trying to jump from his skin in his eagerness to show how cool he is. But all his skills are a bullshit for that who is an expert in so-called 'non-contact fight'. Have a look. No translation is necessary. Everything is clear without it. http://s19.rimg.info/aee19e2775457d135efdf745e7d94e15.gif (http://smayliki.ru/smilie-1224821991.html)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4DsLUObRfc

CSM

12-27-2016, 09:48 AM

Well...
Judging by the fragments of his posts in quotes of the others, our Honey-Gunny looks rather funny trying to jump from his skin in his eagerness to show how cool he is. But all his skills are a bullshit for that who is an expert in so-called 'non-contact fight'. Have a look. No translation is necessary. Everything is clear without it. http://s19.rimg.info/aee19e2775457d135efdf745e7d94e15.gif (http://smayliki.ru/smilie-1224821991.html)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4DsLUObRfc

I am a bit confused. What the hell does trolling Gunny with a supposed training video have to do with this thread?

Balu

12-27-2016, 09:58 AM

I am a bit confused. What the hell does trolling Gunny with a supposed training video have to do with this thread?
This tread is dedicated to the possible security of President Trump and his family by Russians. And this video gives the slightest possible hint of the capabilities of persons, who may be engaged in this. And that the rough dull muscular strength does not solve anything in protecting even own asses from 'deep penetration with double envelope' (mil.term). http://s19.rimg.info/aee19e2775457d135efdf745e7d94e15.gif (http://smayliki.ru/smilie-1224821991.html)

CSM

12-27-2016, 10:02 AM

aboutime

12-27-2016, 06:30 PM

Maybe Balu can explain his trolling of Gunny?
http://icansayit.com/images/putintroll.jpg

Gunny

12-27-2016, 06:37 PM

This tread is dedicated to the possible security of President Trump and his family by Russians. And this video gives the slightest possible hint of the capabilities of persons, who may be engaged in this. And that the rough dull muscular strength does not solve anything in protecting even own asses from 'deep penetration with double envelope' (mil.term). http://s19.rimg.info/aee19e2775457d135efdf745e7d94e15.gif (http://smayliki.ru/smilie-1224821991.html)

Got news for slick, there's a time for brute force and it works like a charm. You can talk yourself to death until you ge hit in the mouth and shut down. You really whould work on how you talk down to people. Most of us here made rank and they don't just hand it out. We have to know our shit and it starts with out-thinking you.

Try listening sometime. First choice of weapon for me.

Drummond

12-27-2016, 06:50 PM

Maybe Balu can explain his trolling of Gunny?
http://icansayit.com/images/putintroll.jpg
:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

Yet another example of where you get straight to the nub of the matter, and with very few words, Aboutime.

Gunny

12-27-2016, 07:00 PM

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

Yet another example of where you get straight to the nub of the matter, and with very few words, Aboutime.

I don't think he's a troll. He's a dangerous person. What he doesn't get with talking as much as he does he says too much. If he thinks no one's paying attention, he's on the wrong bus.

aboutime

12-27-2016, 07:27 PM

I don't think he's a troll. He's a dangerous person. What he doesn't get with talking as much as he does he says too much. If he thinks no one's paying attention, he's on the wrong bus.

Better to Remain Silent and Be Thought a Fool than to Speak and Remove All Doubt

Gunny

12-27-2016, 07:51 PM

Better to Remain Silent and Be Thought a Fool than to Speak and Remove All Doubt

One thing I've noticed, and just can't help looking for, is we vets tlk a lot but say very little. There's no technical info from us. Just general stuff. This guy has put more technical crap on this board since he's been here than any I've ever seen. And I watch every move.

aboutime

12-27-2016, 08:35 PM

One thing I've noticed, and just can't help looking for, is we vets tlk a lot but say very little. There's no technical info from us. Just general stuff. This guy has put more technical crap on this board since he's been here than any I've ever seen. And I watch every move.

Gunny. Agreed. But the sad thing is, if you think about it, and where Balu is; is that he has only recently discovered...there's a whole NEW world out there all of us are familiar with...called the Internet. He's only now discovering some of his own History, and happily sharing it with...what he must believe....is all of us UNINFORMED, UNEDUCATED Americans who only think, and talk like LIBERALS who follow Democrats that prevent most Americans from gaining Educations, or access to knowledge.
Balu must believe we are part of the GREAT UNWASHED Americans who follow only the liberal lies...and Liars like Obama, Hillary, and Nancy (four knee's) Pelosi.
If you want to know why I call her Four Knee's....Think about it, or...have you ever seen the LAND O' LAKES Indian Woman on their Butter packages?
http://icansayit.com/images/landolakes.jpg
This is just like the LAND O LAKES Box for Butter.
FOUR KNEE'S??????