View Full Version : Jill Stein Demands Recount in Wisconsin
NightTrain
11-25-2016, 09:15 PM
This will get very interesting, but not for the reasons that are motivating Jill Stein.
There's a very good reason Hillary didn't demand a recount and closer inspection of WI, PA and MI. How many deceased and illegals cast a vote a couple weeks ago?
We'll soon find out, and the moonbats are paying for it. Win/Win. :popcorn:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/25/green-partys-stein-files-for-wisconsin-recount.html
Black Diamond
11-25-2016, 09:33 PM
Why isn't Stein demanding a recount in new Hampshire and Nevada?
Elessar
11-25-2016, 11:35 PM
Why isn't Stein demanding a recount in new Hampshire and Nevada?
Simple. She's an idiot.
NightTrain
11-26-2016, 03:16 AM
Simple. She's an idiot.
Yeah... she IS the leader of the green party, after all.
aboutime
11-26-2016, 06:23 PM
In a way. I think this may be a good thing. Demanding a recount in those states just might EXPOSE the workings....denied workings....of the Hillary fans, and Democrat liars, once and for all.
Whoever first said "Be careful what you ask for...." Would probably have told Stein to "BE CAREFUL" as well. When you open a garbage can full of rotting democrats, you get more than flies, maggots, and stink. You even expose the TRUTH that stinks too!
Elessar
11-26-2016, 10:19 PM
Yeah... she IS the leader of the green party, after all.
Oh..the Greens have some good intentions, but they are more attached to the liberal
side of the house than the mainstream.
NightTrain
11-27-2016, 08:55 AM
Oh..the Greens have some good intentions, but they are more attached to the liberal
side of the house than the mainstream.
Well, you guys must have a different flavor of Greenie down there. Up here their main focus is to turn the whole State of AK into a national park, and any kind of development anywhere is bogged down in endless lawsuits with no merit.
What really gets my goat is their campaigns are run from liberals in places like CT, FL, CA, etc. All they really are here are puppets on the ground here to do their bidding for the Sierra Club or PETA or any other mob of eco-hippies.
This will get very interesting, but not for the reasons that are motivating Jill Stein.
There's a very good reason Hillary didn't demand a recount and closer inspection of WI, PA and MI. How many deceased and illegals cast a vote a couple weeks ago?
We'll soon find out, and the moonbats are paying for it. Win/Win. :popcorn:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/25/green-partys-stein-files-for-wisconsin-recount.html
I hope you're right about it being a win/win, NT. It sound kooky to me, though, that a candidate is demanding a recount after receiving 1% of the popular vote and zero electoral votes. It seems to me she has no standing. She's either a shill for Hillary, or she's doing it as a scam to make money, like Trump says.
I also remain slightly nervous about the recounts, not because a legitimate recount might overturn the results, but because I wouldn't put it past the Obama administration to tamper with the recount. Or to fabricate a case of "Russian hacking" in order to invalidate a bunch of votes. Let's face it, Obama has a lot of motivation to give the office to Hillary.
I'd considered donating to the Greens recount fund when I got directed to its page about a week ago, glad to see they made enough to putin the challenge- given what I've read/watched about votes in your system it can only be good to have and indepth look.
Bilgerat
11-27-2016, 12:47 PM
I'd considered donating to the Greens recount fund when I got directed to its page about a week ago, glad to see they made enough to putin the challenge- given what I've read/watched about votes in your system it can only be good to have and indepth look.
But Hillary disagreed not that long ago
http://www.debatepolicy.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9507&stc=1
NightTrain
11-27-2016, 01:03 PM
I hope you're right about it being a win/win, NT. It sound kooky to me, though, that a candidate is demanding a recount after receiving 1% of the popular vote and zero electoral votes. It seems to me she has no standing. She's either a shill for Hillary, or she's doing it as a scam to make money, like Trump says.
I also remain slightly nervous about the recounts, not because a legitimate recount might overturn the results, but because I wouldn't put it past the Obama administration to tamper with the recount. Or to fabricate a case of "Russian hacking" in order to invalidate a bunch of votes. Let's face it, Obama has a lot of motivation to give the office to Hillary.
I haven't read even one article that quotes a professional in this sort of thing saying they've got a snowball's chance.
I really do think it's a way for Stein to grab money from the desperate moonbats, and it appears to be working remarkably well... almost $7 million collected so far! Not a bad racket, since the WI recount was estimated at about $1 million the last time I saw.
I don't think there's a statement from Jill anywhere saying she'll give back any monies that isn't applied to the recount(s). She gets free PR and makes a few million off the hapless liberals sobbing about the election. :happy0203:
But Hillary disagreed not that long ago
Oh no! Because I care so much about Hillarys opinion!!!
jimnyc
11-27-2016, 01:21 PM
Let them waste their money, and that of the beanheads willing to donate for the recounts. Money they spend, money then no longer have - and more stuff for me to continue to giggle at!! :laugh:
Bilgerat
11-27-2016, 01:32 PM
I haven't read even one article that quotes a professional in this sort of thing saying they've got a snowball's chance.
I really do think it's a way for Stein to grab money from the desperate moonbats, and it appears to be working remarkably well... almost $7 million collected so far! Not a bad racket, since the WI recount was estimated at about $1 million the last time I saw.
I don't think there's a statement from Jill anywhere saying she'll give back any monies that isn't applied to the recount(s). She gets free PR and makes a few million off the hapless liberals sobbing about the election. :happy0203:
The PR's the thing. She's elevating her status from a relative unknown to up close & personal.
Gunny
11-27-2016, 01:38 PM
I haven't read even one article that quotes a professional in this sort of thing saying they've got a snowball's chance.
I really do think it's a way for Stein to grab money from the desperate moonbats, and it appears to be working remarkably well... almost $7 million collected so far! Not a bad racket, since the WI recount was estimated at about $1 million the last time I saw.
I don't think there's a statement from Jill anywhere saying she'll give back any monies that isn't applied to the recount(s). She gets free PR and makes a few million off the hapless liberals sobbing about the election. :happy0203:
I still don't even know who she is, and don't really care. If any -- and I mean ANY -- legitimacy is given to any of this recount crap especially at the Federal level (electoral college crap) it'll throw our entire voting system into chaos. Glad I got lots of lead.
jimnyc
11-27-2016, 01:49 PM
The PR's the thing. She's elevating her status from a relative unknown to up close & personal.
She'll then become a "known" nitwit and whiner. And at the same time, as one of the most famous women in the world goes down in flames for good, she'll have a few tears to drop on that fire in a wasted effort.
The presidential race has been decided, it's over and done with. Nothing is going to change this. Just like 2000, all that's left apparently is to determine how much of a whining shithead we get to remember them as, depending on how far they are willing to push things.
But who can blame them? The very though, and a realistic thought, of THREE supreme court justices being put into place, has GOT to hurt, I know it does. I was VERY afraid of it happening in the opposite direction. But now the liberals can deal with the fact that very likely, the SC will have a right leaning bent to it for at least the next generation, if not 2-3 of them. :) :) :)
NightTrain
11-27-2016, 01:49 PM
I still don't even know who she is, and don't really care. If any -- and I mean ANY -- legitimacy is given to any of this recount crap especially at the Federal level (electoral college crap) it'll throw our entire voting system into chaos. Glad I got lots of lead.
She managed to come in less voted-for than Johnson, and that takes effort.
No worries, this is just a money scam. If anything it'll expose some more democrat fraud, and I'm all for that.
jimnyc
11-27-2016, 02:00 PM
She managed to come in less voted-for than Johnson, and that takes effort.
No worries, this is just a money scam. If anything it'll expose some more democrat fraud, and I'm all for that.
I laughed a few months ago and leading up to the election when Johnson was flailing at about 7-8% in the polls. I suppose he did better than RP dropping out, or his 0.2% of voting - but falling down to 3.29% was laughable! It may have been best for him to just stay stoned. His screwups and stonerism only harmed the libertarians, IMO. Made them once again look like a 'cuckoo for cocoa puffs marijuana' party.
NightTrain
11-27-2016, 02:04 PM
I laughed a few months ago and leading up to the election when Johnson was flailing at about 7-8% in the polls. I suppose he did better than RP dropping out, or his 0.2% of voting - but falling down to 3.29% was laughable! It may have been best for him to just stay stoned. His screwups and stonerism only harmed the libertarians, IMO. Made them once again look like a 'cuckoo for cocoa puffs marijuana' party.
Yeah, I'm thinking that the Libertarians are probably taking a good, hard look at their vetting process in selecting a candidate.
2016 was a golden opportunity to be a real political player, but if anything, 2016 made them a complete laughingstock with Johnson... except with the hardcore stoner crowd, of course - his actions won't phase them.
But that's like, just my opinion, man.
jimnyc
11-27-2016, 02:13 PM
Yeah, I'm thinking that the Libertarians are probably taking a good, hard look at their vetting process in selecting a candidate.
2016 was a golden opportunity to be a real political player, but if anything, 2016 made them a complete laughingstock with Johnson... except with the hardcore stoner crowd, of course - his actions won't phase them.
But that's like, just my opinion, man.
I have pretty much no issues with the party depending on the candidate. And the candidate this year blew it for them. Trump was widely disliked until he kept winning. Suppose he still wins the primaries, and the elites are still acting as if the world is about to end. They are still all speaking out about him.
And then the libertarians put someone forward that is great on all counts. THAT is the year they win finally. Someone else may have had somewhat of a legit shot this year if not for Johnson.
tailfins
11-27-2016, 02:20 PM
Let them waste their money, and that of the beanheads willing to donate for the recounts. Money they spend, money then no longer have - and more stuff for me to continue to giggle at!! :laugh:
YOU should send Jill Stein a donation in a Christmas card. Jill Stein handed Donald Trump the White House. Add Jill Stein's votes to Hillary's and see what happens to the election results.
Gunny
11-27-2016, 02:22 PM
Yeah, I'm thinking that the Libertarians are probably taking a good, hard look at their vetting process in selecting a candidate.
2016 was a golden opportunity to be a real political player, but if anything, 2016 made them a complete laughingstock with Johnson... except with the hardcore stoner crowd, of course - his actions won't phase them.
But that's like, just my opinion, man.
Johnson's about as libertarian, and bright, as tyhis dumb cat still stalking around for a bug I killed 2 hours ago. He's a socialist and was governor of a socialist state. I lived in "shangra-la" for awhile. Saved a lot of tax money moving back home. He was sold as some "alternate choice" but he was just another lefty in sheep's clothing. He'd have been a bigger disaster than Hillary.
NightTrain
11-27-2016, 02:27 PM
YOU should send Jill Stein a donation in a Christmas card. Jill Stein handed Donald Trump the White House. Add Jill Stein's votes to Hillary's and see what happens to the election results.
How many electoral votes did Jill Stein get?
Zero, wasn't it?
jimnyc
11-27-2016, 02:30 PM
YOU should send Jill Stein a donation in a Christmas card. Jill Stein handed Donald Trump the White House. Add Jill Stein's votes to Hillary's and see what happens to the election results.
Sorry, but 1 million votes spread out around the nation didn't change the election. I wouldn't waste the price of a stamp on either her or Johnson.
But maybe I can find email, so that I can just send a picture of that HUGE laughing smiley to them both?
http://i.imgur.com/5kbQYry.jpg
tailfins
11-27-2016, 02:50 PM
Sorry, but 1 million votes spread out around the nation didn't change the election. I wouldn't waste the price of a stamp on either her or Johnson.
But maybe I can find email, so that I can just send a picture of that HUGE laughing smiley to them both?
Jill Stein's votes would flip WI and MI and almost flip PA and FL, which would make this recount business plausible. Do keeping in mind that I'm doing because I enjoy contingency analysis, not that I wanted that outcome.
Considering Jill Stein's electoral vote count would be a faulty analysis.
jimnyc
11-27-2016, 03:04 PM
Jill Stein's votes would flip WI and MI and almost flip PA and FL, which would make this recount business plausible. Do keeping in mind that I'm doing because I enjoy contingency analysis, not that I wanted that outcome.
Considering Jill Stein's electoral vote count would be a faulty analysis.
She got 1% of the vote in WI. 1% in Michigan. 0.8% in Pa. 0.6% in Florida.
She's not remotely changing anything. Even if every last vote of hers were given to Hillary in those states - the only state that would change instantly would be Florida. Her votes aren't enough to put Hillary over the edge in the other 3.
But it matters not. Other for them to whine, and for their voters to continue their agony, and be dumb enough to think anything will change - other than perhaps making your wallet a little lighter if you give Stein money to help with this stupidity.
Bilgerat
11-27-2016, 03:05 PM
Jill Stein's votes would flip WI and MI and almost flip PA and FL, which would make this recount business plausible. Do keeping in mind that I'm doing because I enjoy contingency analysis, not that I wanted that outcome.
Considering Jill Stein's electoral vote count would be a faulty analysis.
Yes, if Stein hadn't run, it could be"assumed" that some of her votes would have gone to the Hildabeast.
Just as easy to assume that some would have gone to Trump.
However, unlike the Bernie giveaway at the Democrap "Love the Hildabeast" Convention, the vote are not transferable
So we basically endure an exercise in stupidity, whilst Stein poses and gets rich. :coffee:
NightTrain
11-27-2016, 03:09 PM
Jill Stein's votes would flip WI and MI and almost flip PA and FL, which would make this recount business plausible. Do keeping in mind that I'm doing because I enjoy contingency analysis, not that I wanted that outcome.
Considering Jill Stein's electoral vote count would be a faulty analysis.
Would it?
Where's your info of Stein's voters being 100% democrat defectors?
What about the now-sheepish Cruzbots who voted for Johnson and Stein?
You assume much. I'd think you'd have less confidence in your crystal ball after the last election.
jimnyc
11-27-2016, 03:17 PM
Would it?
Where's your info of Stein's voters being 100% democrat defectors?
What about the now-sheepish Cruzbots who voted for Johnson and Stein?
You assume much. I'd think you'd have less confidence in your crystal ball after the last election.
Exactly. That's about what would be needed in a couple of them - finding out that EVERY SINGLE one of her votes being switched over for Hillary.
Fwiw, I read earlier that Cruz is done as far as a WH position is concerned.
Black Diamond
11-27-2016, 06:28 PM
I'd considered donating to the Greens recount fund when I got directed to its page about a week ago, glad to see they made enough to putin the challenge- given what I've read/watched about votes in your system it can only be good to have and indepth look.
Why would you support an effort geared toward only recounting states Hillary lost by a thin margin? No inclusion of new Hampshire or Nevada or even Minnesota?
And if you are concerned about tampering on November 8, why would you assume there would be no tampering in a recount?
Why would you support an effort geared toward only recounting states Hillary lost by a thin margin? No inclusion of new Hampshire or Nevada or even Minnesota?
And if you are concerned about tampering on November 8, why would you assume there would be no tampering in a recount?
BD - Because they're hoping to add tampering in their favor during the recount. As usual, they're not looking for truth, they're just looking for advantage.
gabosaurus
11-27-2016, 07:36 PM
Now that Trump has mentioned all the potential "illegal votes" cast, perhaps there should be a recount in every state.
I remember Trump stating that he would only accept the election verdict if he won. Meaning that he was going to launch the same offensive that Jill Stein is doing if he lost.
Doesn't that make Trump an enormous hypocrite for questioning the recount effort, since he planned to do the same thing?
aboutime
11-27-2016, 07:49 PM
Now that Trump has mentioned all the potential "illegal votes" cast, perhaps there should be a recount in every state.
I remember Trump stating that he would only accept the election verdict if he won. Meaning that he was going to launch the same offensive that Jill Stein is doing if he lost.
Doesn't that make Trump an enormous hypocrite for questioning the recount effort, since he planned to do the same thing?
gabby. Having BUYERS REMORSE? You should be demanding that Stein RETURN all the useless funds you contributed to a JOKE, or HOAX.
Look at how Stein is playing all of the dumbest of the dumb liberals like yourself.
She's collecting money from people who would SELL THEIR MOTHER, or CHILDREN if they could be convinced to believe Hillary wouldn't lie, and FOOL all of you.
By the way. Guess you need a refresher on the U.S. Constitution. The ELECTION IS OVER. Hillary LOST. Trump WON.
jimnyc
11-27-2016, 07:49 PM
Now that Trump has mentioned all the potential "illegal votes" cast, perhaps there should be a recount in every state.
I remember Trump stating that he would only accept the election verdict if he won. Meaning that he was going to launch the same offensive that Jill Stein is doing if he lost.
Doesn't that make Trump an enormous hypocrite for questioning the recount effort, since he planned to do the same thing?
Actually, no. He did state as much, but then they had plans worked out ahead of time, where both agreed that the other would call to concede within 15 minutes after the associated press called the election.
hjmick
11-27-2016, 07:56 PM
I think you have all missed the point and purpose of the demand for a recount...
To further delegitimize Trump..,
The recount efforts will most likely not end in Wisconsin. There is a likelihood that they will extend to Pennsylvania and Michigan. Should a hand count be requested, which can be demanded, the recounts could take longer than the last day for completing the official counts in a state and thus directing Electoral College voters. If all 3 states miss the deadline, no one hits 270. Trump would be at 260, Hillary at 232.
Then, for the first time since 1824, it all goes to Congress. Trump will be President in the end, but now he will not have won the popular vote, he will not have won the Electoral college, and he will have been inserted into the Presidency by his own party.
Talk about illegitimate...
aboutime
11-27-2016, 07:57 PM
Just listened, and watched a video that announced part of what Trump said, at his meeting with the NEW YORK SLIMES last week.
Trump was asked if he would still want Hillary to get away without an investigation, or indictment....And..Trump said "NO!"
The dems are gonna soon learn. "It's not nice to fool with Donald Trump!"
Remember? The dems insisted he lies like Hillary? Of course, Dems call the Truth..lies.
http://youtu.be/dXpXLK_tM1k
Elessar
11-27-2016, 07:58 PM
I hear fingernails scratching desk and tabletops in desperation with this bullshit move.:laugh:
aboutime
11-27-2016, 08:08 PM
I hear fingernails scratching desk and tabletops in desperation with this bullshit move.:laugh:
ABOUT NOW....all of this crap makes the OBAMA shovel ready idea seem fitting. The more they create the Divisiveness of Liberal Stupidity...the deeper they must go. So....for Stein, and every other crying Democrat.
Here. This is for you, compliments of Obama.
http://icansayit.com/images/shovelready.jpg
Elessar
11-27-2016, 08:17 PM
ABOUT NOW....all of this crap makes the OBAMA shovel ready idea seem fitting. The more they create the Divisiveness of Liberal Stupidity...the deeper they must go. So....for Stein, and every other crying Democrat.
Here. This is for you, compliments of Obama.
http://icansayit.com/images/shovelready.jpg
Oh...there is one Obama's promised 'shovel ready jobs'? - Which never happened, by the way. :laugh:
Black Diamond
11-27-2016, 08:38 PM
I think you have all missed the point and purpose of the demand for a recount...
To further delegitimize Trump..,
The recount efforts will most likely not end in Wisconsin. There is a likelihood that they will extend to Pennsylvania and Michigan. Should a hand count be requested, which can be demanded, the recounts could take longer than the last day for completing the official counts in a state and thus directing Electoral College voters. If all 3 states miss the deadline, no one hits 270. Trump would be at 260, Hillary at 232.
Then, for the first time since 1824, it all goes to Congress. Trump will be President in the end, but now he will not have won the popular vote, he will not have won the Electoral college, and he will have been inserted into the Presidency by his own party.
Talk about illegitimate...
Yes I have been expecting recounts in those states. But these bitches say it's all about accuracy but have said nothing of new Hampshire, Minnesota, or Nevada.
Black Diamond
11-27-2016, 08:39 PM
BD - Because they're hoping to add tampering in their favor during the recount. As usual, they're not looking for truth, they're just looking for advantage.
Yes.
I wonder if noir is on this bandwagon.
Black Diamond
11-27-2016, 08:41 PM
In 2004, they recounted in Ohio when Bush had a 100,000 vote lead. The recount gave Kerry and extra 300.
aboutime
11-27-2016, 08:47 PM
I suspect that Stein, and now Hillary getting into this recount crap; have an ulterior motive. Not to prove Hillary won, but to EXPOSE the Crooked Democrat, Liberal tactics of Illegals voting, dead people voting, and duplicate Democrat votes.
Anyone remember Obama telling people to VOTE or else (many times if they want)?
http://youtu.be/nX6E2Ucv7S8
http://youtu.be/vQAcSpKqDPM
Elessar
11-27-2016, 10:15 PM
Yes.
I wonder if noir is on this bandwagon.
And why is Noir significant? He's not. I don't care what he thinks.
He does not reside in or vote in the USA.
Just a sideline panty-waist whiner.
revelarts
11-27-2016, 10:25 PM
As far as I can tell It seems like Stein is asking for a recount based on the fact that EVERYONE seems to know that the voting has had problems and is "rigged".
Sad thing no matter which side wins they claim it's just sour grapes to question much less recount the votes.
but next election cycle if the shoes on the other foot the voter fraud is "obvious" and highly criminal.
seems to me that mandatory recount of federal elections for the next 12 years might shine some light on a lot of things.
Plus mandatory paper ballot copies at the least.
revelarts
11-27-2016, 10:26 PM
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w17/rubicon666/15171006_1314805305217114_724502551666453128_n_zps f2qklkzf.png
Not sure if this is real, but sure seems like something that would come from him.
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NightTrain
11-27-2016, 11:57 PM
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w17/rubicon666/15171006_1314805305217114_724502551666453128_n_zps f2qklkzf.png
Not sure if this is real, but sure seems like something that would come from him.
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That's exactly right, and what I've been saying. You can't tell me that all the illegals that have State-Issued IDs haven't been voting.
...if an ID is required at all wherever they are.
After we clean up the illegals mess, our political outcomes will be greatly adjusted on every level. Some say up to 30 million illegals here in the country, and I don't think that's unreasonable. 15 million is generally acknowledged, which tells me it's far greater. And those voters know which side of their bread is buttered.
Black Diamond
11-28-2016, 12:40 AM
http://www.allenbwest.com/analytical-economist/oh-yes-still-might
Lol.
Why would you support an effort geared toward only recounting states Hillary lost by a thin margin? No inclusion of new Hampshire or Nevada or even Minnesota?
And if you are concerned about tampering on November 8, why would you assume there would be no tampering in a recount?
Maybe Hillary was only close in those states because of tampering in her favour in the first place?
Recounting in states she won would be just as reasonable imo, the point is applying scrutiny to what appears to be a very poor system.
bullypulpit
11-28-2016, 06:10 AM
As the Great Orange Man Baby's tweets become more and more unhinged, it begs the question...
http://www.debatepolicy.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9509&stc=1
bullypulpit
11-28-2016, 06:12 AM
Maybe Hillary was only close in those states because of tampering in her favour in the first place?
Recounting in states she won would be just as reasonable imo, the point is applying scrutiny to what appears to be a very poor system.
Given the margin by which Clinton has won the popular vote, 2.2 million and counting, a recount in those states with razor thin margins for Drumpf's win only seems reasonable.
Given the margin by which Clinton has won the popular vote, 2.2 million and counting, a recount in those states with razor thin margins for Drumpf's win only seems reasonable.
Hillary doesn't seem to think so, otherwise her team would be pushing for recounts, as it stands I think both Clinton and Trump know a recount will drag up mud for both of them.
Kathianne
11-28-2016, 08:09 AM
Actually with folks on both sides disbelieving the fairness of the election process, I would say that while the results should stand, the recount should proceed and voter reforms should be adopted in order to return faith in the system:
1. No motor voter
2. Citizen positive photo id needs to be adopted countrywide
3. No early voting and absentee voting returned to previous rules.
Gunny
11-28-2016, 09:14 AM
Actually with folks on both sides disbelieving the fairness of the election process, I would say that while the results should stand, the recount should proceed and voter reforms should be adopted in order to return faith in the system:
1. No motor voter
2. Citizen positive photo id needs to be adopted countrywide
3. No early voting and absentee voting returned to previous rules.My opinion on this is simple:
1. I've had dog tags since I was 2, and a military ID since I was 10. I could care less about all the whining about who has to register for what. Unless you live in a cave or are illegally here, you're already registered somewhere. Those people need to quit whining, and looking for loopholes to defraud voters. This whole issue is about those of us that are honest and do it right versus the scumbags that want to cheat at every turn.
2. Goes back to my usual rant about Fed vs State responsibility. This is another issue where the Feds should be running one show. Not 50. It's the Federal (clue there) election. Instead they're too busy sticking their noses in whatever issues the ACLU, BLM and/or every other loser, attention whoring organization are squealing about to do the simple stuff they're supposed to.
tailfins
11-28-2016, 09:25 AM
Yes, if Stein hadn't run, it could be"assumed" that some of her votes would have gone to the Hildabeast.
Just as easy to assume that some would have gone to Trump.
However, unlike the Bernie giveaway at the Democrap "Love the Hildabeast" Convention, the vote are not transferable
So we basically endure an exercise in stupidity, whilst Stein poses and gets rich. :coffee:
I hope the Green party raises lots of money and fields a whole slate of US Senate candidates in 2018. I want them to give new meaning to "The Green Party", cha-ching.
aboutime
11-28-2016, 02:56 PM
Given the margin by which Clinton has won the popular vote, 2.2 million and counting, a recount in those states with razor thin margins for Drumpf's win only seems reasonable.
bully....Once again..this is for, and sounds like you. http://icansayit.com/images/crybabys.jpg
Bilgerat
11-28-2016, 03:07 PM
Oh oh, the plan to delay the Electoral Vote might be falling off the tracks
Wisconsin rejects doing recount by hand
http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/11/28/elections-staff-layout-recount-timeline/94539210/
aboutime
11-28-2016, 03:16 PM
Oh oh, the plan to delay the Electoral Vote might be falling off the tracks
Wisconsin rejects doing recount by hand
http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/11/28/elections-staff-layout-recount-timeline/94539210/
Oh,no! What will BULLY, PETE, GABBY, and OCA DO NOW????:laugh:
NightTrain
11-28-2016, 03:19 PM
Oh oh, the plan to delay the Electoral Vote might be falling off the tracks
Wisconsin rejects doing recount by hand
http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/11/28/elections-staff-layout-recount-timeline/94539210/
That'll ratchet up the moaning a few notches.
:popcorn:
Bilgerat
11-28-2016, 03:36 PM
Oh,no! What will BULLY, PETE, GABBY, and OCA DO NOW????:laugh:
:panicsmiley::panicsmiley: :panicsmiley: :panicsmiley: :panicsmiley::panicsmiley: :panicsmiley: :panicsmiley:
Elessar
11-28-2016, 03:51 PM
I think it is preposterous. She got roughly 1% of the vote, and is demanding
a recount?
Now Hillary's followers are riding the coattails of this, even though she conceded?
Seems to me that Jill Stein is actually in the DNC's pocket.
I think it is preposterous. She got roughly 1% of the vote, and is demanding
a recount?
Now Hillary's followers are riding the coattails of this, even though she conceded?
Seems to me that Jill Stein is actually in the DNC's pocket.
meh...more likely Soros is behind it or at least providing some funding and I have no doubt that Hillary is in the mix too... more than the media is telling us for sure. I do believe that Stein has done this before.
hjmick
11-28-2016, 04:02 PM
Oh oh, the plan to delay the Electoral Vote might be falling off the tracks
Wisconsin rejects doing recount by hand
http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/11/28/elections-staff-layout-recount-timeline/94539210/
I just saw a headline that indicated Stein missed the Pennsylvania deadline for a recount...
Elessar
11-28-2016, 04:06 PM
Perhaps Soros should provide free highchairs, bibs, playpens, and comfort animals
to the libs that keep this going.
After all, libs love freebies!:laugh:
Black Diamond
11-28-2016, 04:07 PM
I just saw a headline that indicated Stein missed the Pennsylvania deadline for a recount...
That alone keeps Trump in the white house.
Black Diamond
11-28-2016, 04:08 PM
Perhaps Soros should provide free highchairs, bibs, playpens, and comfort animals
to the libs that keep this going.
After all, libs love freebies!:laugh:
Don't forget the coloring books you evil capitalisto.
jimnyc
11-28-2016, 04:13 PM
"I see dumbasses"
Bully, you KNOW you're just going to disappear and avoid threads when this is done, just as you did with EO's. Stein and Clinton have ZERO chance of ANYTHING changing. Trump is YOUR next president, get used to it.
This is the longest Christmas ever!! :lol: :coffee:
Bilgerat
11-28-2016, 04:15 PM
Don't forget the coloring books you evil capitalisto.
And the play-doh and legos :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Black Diamond
11-28-2016, 04:16 PM
"I see dumbasses"
Bully, you KNOW you're just going to disappear and avoid threads when this is done, just as you did with EO's. Stein and Clinton have ZERO chance of ANYTHING changing. Trump is YOUR next president, get used to it.
This is the longest Christmas ever!! :lol: :coffee:
Haley Joel Osment?
Black Diamond
11-28-2016, 04:17 PM
And the play-doh and legos :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Yes. Thanks for the correction. I keep forgetting to give these morons their toys
hjmick
11-28-2016, 04:18 PM
And the play-doh and legos :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
No Play Doh, they'll eat that shit...
And if there are going to be Legos, shoes are mandatory. Have you ever stepped on one of those fuckers in your bare feet? I'd rather pass a kidney stone...
Bilgerat
11-28-2016, 04:32 PM
No Play Doh, they'll eat that shit...
And if there are going to be Legos, shoes are mandatory. Have you ever stepped on one of those fuckers in your bare feet? I'd rather pass a kidney stone...
At last! Lego creates extra-padded slippers to prevent adults from getting injured by stepping on bricks lying around the house!
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/11/17/11/2E86987800000578-3321877-image-m-12_1447759299554.jpg
aboutime
11-28-2016, 04:33 PM
meh...more likely Soros is behind it or at least providing some funding and I have no doubt that Hillary is in the mix too... more than the media is telling us for sure. I do believe that Stein has done this before.
CSM. I read somewhere yesterday that PUTIN, and UNNAMED Americans have issued an ARREST WARRANT for SOROS.
Not sure about the American involved, but...since SOROS is supposedly an American. He violated the LAW, the Constitution when he spoke of assassinating Trump, and his attempts to Overthrow our government.
Article 3 - The Judicial Branch
Section 3 - Treason
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Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.
The Congress shall have power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attained.
Article III
Section 1.
The judicial power of the United States, shall be vested in one Supreme Court, and in such inferior courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The judges, both of the supreme and inferior courts, shall hold their offices during good behaviour, and shall, at stated times, receive for their services, a compensation, which shall not be diminished during their continuance in office.
Section 2.
The judicial power shall extend to all cases, in law and equity, arising under this Constitution, the laws of the United States, and treaties made, or which shall be made, under their authority;--to all cases affecting ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls;--to all cases of admiralty and maritime jurisdiction;--to controversies to which the United States shall be a party;--to controversies between two or more states;--between a state and citizens of another state;--between citizens of different states;--between citizens of the same state claiming lands under grants of different states, and between a state, or the citizens thereof, and foreign states, citizens or subjects.
In all cases affecting ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, and those in which a state shall be party, the Supreme Court shall have original jurisdiction. In all the other cases before mentioned, the Supreme Court shall have appellate jurisdiction, both as to law and fact, with such exceptions, and under such regulations as the Congress shall make.
The trial of all crimes, except in cases of impeachment, shall be by jury; and such trial shall be held in the state where the said crimes shall have been committed; but when not committed within any state, the trial shall be at such place or places as the Congress may by law have directed.
Section 3.
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.
The Congress shall have power to declare the punishment of treason, but no attainder of treason shall work corruption of blood, or forfeiture except during the life of the person attainted.
CSM. I read somewhere yesterday that PUTIN, and UNNAMED Americans have issued an ARREST WARRANT for SOROS.
Not sure about the American involved, but...since SOROS is supposedly an American. He violated the LAW, the Constitution when he spoke of assassinating Trump, and his attempts to Overthrow our government.
Article 3 - The Judicial Branch
Section 3 - Treason
<<Back | Table of Contents | Next>>
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.
The Congress shall have power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.
Had not heard that. Would not surprise me but it sounds more like something from Facebook than real news.
aboutime
11-28-2016, 04:42 PM
Had not heard that. Would not surprise me but it sounds more like something from Facebook than real news.
CSM. Have not been able to verify it, but this is what I heard yesterday. It is questionable until it can be proven.
You decide:
http://youtu.be/TjDXZEYhfZg
jimnyc
11-28-2016, 05:33 PM
I think it is preposterous. She got roughly 1% of the vote, and is demanding
a recount?
Now Hillary's followers are riding the coattails of this, even though she conceded?
Seems to me that Jill Stein is actually in the DNC's pocket.
They'll all be riding into the sunset as losers. They were wrong about the election. Now they want to threaten and be dumb enough to believe electors will ignore the nation and bring Hillary on in. Then they'll go with Stein and think they can reverse states.
I couldn't have asked for anything more!! I can imagine some of them, literally praying and reading and reading and reading, and deluding themselves into believing there's still some way to keep Trump out of office. Just look at a few threads from OCA, Gabby and Bully. And their delusions are like comedy gold!
hjmick
11-28-2016, 05:52 PM
Had not heard that. Would not surprise me but it sounds more like something from Facebook than real news.
Don't go around repeating the Soros arrest warrant story. There is not a single reputable website reporting the story. I went so far as to scour Alex Jones' Infowars (shudders), and not a single mention of it there. And I think we can all agree, if there were an ounce of truth to the story, that nutjob Jones would run with it...
jimnyc
11-28-2016, 05:56 PM
Don't go around repeating the Soros arrest warrant story. There is not a single reputable website reporting the story. I went so far as to scour Alex Jones' Infowars (shudders)
, and not a single mention of it there. And I think we can all agree, if there were an ounce of truth to the story, that nutjob Jones would run with it...
It's covered by nothing but the cuckoo sites out there. Infowars is legit compared to some of the others, and some of those others have been used here before, as conspiracies, by some unmentionables. :) :)
While I would like to see it be true, there isn't an ounce of truth to it as you state. I believe this is where it started...
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Putin Soros in a Bind
Articles reporting that the Russian president issued an international arrest order for the billionaire philanthropist are completely false.
Origin:In mid-November 2016, various fake news sites began sharing a claim that George Soros, (a Hungarian-American billionaire, philanthropist, and frequent target of conspiracy theories) was in deep trouble with the Russian government — so much so that Russian president Vladimir Putin had issued an international arrest warrant for him:
Russia have officially declared that Billionaire George Soros is a wanted man in their country, citing him and his organizations as a “threat to Russian national security”.
Putin banned Soros from Russia last year due to the fact that Soros helped to nearly destroy the Russian economy in the early 1990’s.
Soros, who has attracted so many conspiracy theories that a Wikipedia page has been dedicated to them, is not on Interpol's list of people wanted by Russia for international arrest and extradition. None of the articles, tellingly, say what charges Putin supposedly wants to extradite Soros for, other than a vague claim that he is a "threat to Russian national security."
Rest here - http://www.snopes.com/putin-issues-arrest-warrant-for-george-soros/
aboutime
11-28-2016, 06:17 PM
Don't go around repeating the Soros arrest warrant story. There is not a single reputable website reporting the story. I went so far as to scour Alex Jones' Infowars (shudders), and not a single mention of it there. And I think we can all agree, if there were an ounce of truth to the story, that nutjob Jones would run with it...
hjmick. I said, in my post, that non of it had been verified, or proven to be correct.
There are millions of bogus stories out there on the Internet. I merely wanted others to know what I had heard, and seen in the video.
In reality. I would love to see Soros drop off the Earth, or be targeted by the KGB. Soros is like a BILLIONAIRE CASTRO who doesn't mind spending money to destroy Anyone, or any country.
Hope to learn the truth, like everyone else. FOR SURE!
jimnyc
11-28-2016, 07:01 PM
I just saw a headline that indicated Stein missed the Pennsylvania deadline for a recount...
Not gonna happen unless she pulled affidavits out of her butt!
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Did Jill Stein Get the 27,000 Affidavits Needed for a Pennsylvania Recount?
HARRISBURG, Pa., Nov. 28 (UPI) — Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein officially filed for an election recount in Pennsylvania on Monday, but she needs to do a lot more to actually get elections officials to start reviewing votes — and she doesn’t have much time to do it.
Stein filed a request with the Pennsylvania Bureau of Commissions, Elections and Legislation on Monday, meeting the deadline for a recount. Last week, her campaign successfully filed for similar efforts in Wisconsin, and this week she will file for a recount in Michigan, where the deadline is Wednesday.
Stein is asking for the recount in those three states to ensure election integrity, amid theories that voting machines could have been tampered with. Donald Trump won all three states over Hillary Clinton by slim margins, and a reversal of the results would give Clinton enough electoral votes to win the presidency.
But Stein’s fight in the Keystone State will be a very difficult one.
In order to actually trigger a recount statewide, which is the goal, Stein needs to find nearly 30,000 individual voters and have them submit an affidavit requesting the recount — that’s three voters for all 9,163 precincts in the state. If she does find 27,000-plus voters to do that, they must file their affidavits by the end of business Monday.
“We need volunteers to observe #Recount2016 and voters to fill out affidavits to initiate the Pennsylvania recount,” Stein tweeted on Monday afternoon.
If those requirements are not satisfied, there will be no recount in Pennsylvania — at least not without a lawsuit.
Rest here - http://www.breitbart.com/news/jill-stein-beats-deadline-in-pennsylvania-but-faces-uphill-battle-for-recount/
Black Diamond
11-28-2016, 07:08 PM
Maybe the Cleveland Indians should force a recount.
revelarts
11-28-2016, 07:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le43c7cYeZA
aboutime
11-28-2016, 08:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le43c7cYeZA
rev. Just in case you haven't noticed.
TRUMP WON. HILLARY LOST. End of story. You now have 4 years to cry yourself to sleep.
revelarts
11-28-2016, 09:00 PM
rev. Just in case you haven't noticed.
TRUMP WON. HILLARY LOST. End of story. You now have 4 years to cry yourself to sleep.
AT it's just a post by one "news/commentator" about what they think about the Wisconsin count.
but please notice I never said i agreed or disagreed with the Content.
the post was simply an FYI AT.
And again for the 1000th time i didn't vote for Hillary or Trump. I think they both stink.
But i do care about honest elections.
(Everyone SAYS they care as well unless their horse is being accused of cheating.. then it's NOTHING BUT sore grapes.)
But i thought this report presented some interesting information that should be checked... honestly reviewed... at the least.
aboutime
11-28-2016, 09:23 PM
AT it's just a post by one "news/commentator" about what they think about the Wisconsin count.
but please notice I never said i agreed or disagreed with the Content.
the post was simply an FYI AT.
And again for the 1000th time i didn't vote for Hillary or Trump. I think they both stink.
But i do care about honest elections.
(Everyone SAYS they care as well unless their horse is being accused of cheating.. then it's NOTHING BUT sore grapes.)
But i thought this report presented some interesting information that should be checked... honestly reviewed... at the least.
Sad to hear rev. Guess there's no more reasons for me to attempt any kind of political dialogue with you. I prefer to only talk with responsible citizens who exercise their ONE, and ONLY right to voice your opinion. So, you talking about honesty in elections seems rather MOOT to me now.
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