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Kathianne
11-01-2016, 07:12 AM
I've blamed the primary voters for Trump, I do think that is correct. Understandable to lose one's temper with all the disappointment, but nominating him has been a huge mistake, even if he wins.

Still, that probably pales in comparison to what the DNC did with Hillary. She may still win, especially due to early voting. She will not be able to govern though.

Both are still unacceptable, both appear to have campaign staff that are under investigation, but one of them is going to win in a week. The US however is going to lose.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/441636/hillary-clinton-email-scandal-fbi-director-comey-didnt-create-mess?utm_source=nr&utm_medium=facebook%3Futm_content%3Dlowry%3Futm_ca mpaign%3Dasked


The Democrats Asked for This by RICH LOWRY November 1, 2016 12:00 AM

The only one Hillary and the Democrats can blame for this mess is Hillary herself.

Before Democrats burn James Comey in effigy, they should think about how the FBI director came to have an outsized influence in the election in the first place.

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Once upon a time — namely any presidential election prior to this one — this enormous political and legal vulnerability would have disqualified a candidate. Not this year, and not in the case of Hillary Clinton.

The country has clearly lowered its standards in this election, and Donald Trump’s madcap candidacy provides evidence of that almost every day. But Hillary’s nomination was itself an offense against American political norms and an incredibly reckless act. And the Democrats were supposed to be the party acting rationally.

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They did it, in part, because they could never bring themselves to fully acknowledge the seriousness of the e-mail scandal and, relatedly, the ethical miasma around the Clinton Foundation. They considered it all another desperate trick of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy.

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Comey’s conduct is open to criticism, but there is no way to please everyone when handling an investigation with such high political stakes. His notification to Congress last weekend is another case in point. All that can be said is that if Democrats didn’t want the FBI to have any part in the election, they could have considered that before handing Hillary Clinton their nomination.

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Just how vulnerable is she? If it weren’t for the new trove of Huma Abedin e-mails, the blockbuster news this week would come via a Wall Street Journal report that the FBI is investigating the Clinton Foundation — although Fox News reported the same thing at the beginning of the year, and Hillary, of course, dismissed it as an “unsourced and irresponsible claim that has no basis.”

The e-mail scandal and Clinton Foundation will dog Hillary until Election Day and, should she win, into her presidency. For this, she has no one to blame but herself — and her irresponsible enablers.

OCA
11-01-2016, 07:26 AM
I've blamed the primary voters for Trump, I do think that is correct. Understandable to lose one's temper with all the disappointment, but nominating him has been a huge mistake, even if he wins.

Still, that probably pales in comparison to what the DNC did with Hillary. She may still win, especially due to early voting. She will not be able to govern though.

Both are still unacceptable, both appear to have campaign staff that are under investigation, but one of them is going to win in a week. The US however is going to lose.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/441636/hillary-clinton-email-scandal-fbi-director-comey-didnt-create-mess?utm_source=nr&utm_medium=facebook%3Futm_content%3Dlowry%3Futm_ca mpaign%3Dasked

Why will she not be able to govern? We know why he would not be able to, he's alienated everyone.

Bilgerat
11-01-2016, 07:35 AM
Why will she not be able to govern? We know why he would not be able to, he's alienated everyone.


You have the uncanny ability to turn a blind eye to anything Clinton, one has to marvel

fj1200
11-01-2016, 10:25 AM
Why will she not be able to govern? We know why he would not be able to, he's alienated everyone.

She lacks moral authority, will endure unending investigations, will likely have the Congress against her... She may have to be more pragmatic than bill was to get anything done especially when Republicans increase their House and Senate margins in two years.

OCA
11-01-2016, 10:31 AM
She lacks moral authority, will endure unending investigations, will likely have the Congress against her... She may have to be more pragmatic than bill was to get anything done especially when Republicans increase their House and Senate margins in two years.

She will have Demos to work with who are poised to take back the senate and make significant gains in the house.

Will there even be a Repub party in 2 yrs? I think that is a real possibility that it will be dissolved.

fj1200
11-01-2016, 11:12 AM
She will have Demos to work with who are poised to take back the senate and make significant gains in the house.

Will there even be a Repub party in 2 yrs? I think that is a real possibility that it will be dissolved.

A bare majority in the Senate does little good for her especially with no majority in the House. And yes, there will be a Republican party in two years and it'll make large off-season gains as it does whenever it doesn't hold the Presidency.

OCA
11-01-2016, 11:23 AM
A bare majority in the Senate does little good for her especially with no majority in the House. And yes, there will be a Republican party in two years and it'll make large off-season gains as it does whenever it doesn't hold the Presidency.

Not with it's record low approval ratings and perception, rightfully so, of being nothing more than obstructionists.

fj1200
11-01-2016, 11:29 AM
Not with it's record low approval ratings and perception, rightfully so, of being nothing more than obstructionists.

"Record low ratings" and Republicans are still virtually tied with Democrats with an awful POTUS candidate hanging around their necks like an anchor not to mention that they control the majority of the state governorships and/or state legislatures, I don't think that is likely to change. I'll argue it is the job of the opposition party to be obstructionist and Republicans do better at their job when things look the bleakest. Who else will the populace rally around in opposition to hrc? And rally they will if history is any guide; '94, '98, '10, '14.