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red states rule
07-28-2007, 10:19 AM
The federal government can send in an infusion of (money) to prevent foreclosure," Senator Schumer said earlier this month.

Dems never stop trying to come up with new ways to spend your tax dollars

What is next? Picking up your car payments and monthly credit card bills?



Why we shouldn't be bailing out subprime lenders or borrowers
Kathleen Pender

Sunday, April 22, 2007

Dumb: Buying a house you can't afford with no down payment and a loan whose monthly payments will explode in a few years.

Dumber: Lending money to people who can't afford a traditional mortgage, especially when they have lousy credit ratings and don't substantiate their income.

Dumbest: Bailing out dumb and dumber, especially with taxpayer money.

State and federal lawmakers, community groups and housing advocates are proposing schemes to prevent the victims of the subprime loan crisis from losing their homes. I hate to sound callous, but it's hard for me to know who the victims are in this mess.

If mortgage brokers or lenders used inflated appraisals or made false or misleading statements, they should be prosecuted or at least forced to restructure the loans. If borrowers lied about their income or assets to get a bigger loan, they too should be prosecuted.

But many people got into the subprime mess because they were willing to believe a fast-talking broker who told them they could buy a home, or a bigger home, or take more cash out of their home than they could with a conventional mortgage.

Keeping people in homes they had no business buying is wrong in many ways.

For starters, there's no easy way to bail out homeowners without bailing out the lenders and investors who were largely responsible for the subprime mess.

Many experts say we are in the early innings of the foreclosure cycle. If we bail out people today, will we be willing and able to help people who fail later in the game?

Propping up borrowers who took a gamble on a house and lost reinforces gambling.

"If people think they can take out a bad mortgage and they get bailed out, that's called moral hazard in social insurance and it's a very bad thing," says Thomas Davidoff, an assistant professor in the Haas Real Estate Group at UC Berkeley.

Bailout advocates say they want to help people who were duped, not gamblers. But even if you could separate the swindled from the speculators, there's no guarantee that people who get a bailout will keep their homes. It could be an expensive form of life support.

Nobody offered to bail out investors who bought tech stocks in 1999. Nobody bailed out Enron employees who lost their jobs and chunks of their 401(k) plans because the company was a fraud. Nobody offers to bail out credit card abusers.

But homes are different, advocates say. It's shelter, not an investment.

Hogwash. The government itself says owning a house is part shelter, part investment.

In calculating the housing portion of the Consumer Price Index, the Bureau of Labor Statistics uses rental costs for leased properties. For owner-occupied housing, it estimates how much homeowners would get if they rented out the house. If the monthly payment exceeds that amount, it is considered an investment, not a cost of living.

The growth in subprime loans made homeownership possible for many more people, including low-income and minority families. Bailout advocates say that door should not be slammed shut because people made mistakes.

The truth is, subprime borrowers could always get loans, but they had to pay higher rates and make a substantial down payment. If they ran into problems, and many did, the house could be sold and the loan repaid, protecting both lender and borrower.

In 2003, with interest rates at historic lows, investor demand for high-yielding subprime mortgages started heating up. To fill the pipeline, lenders started letting subprime borrowers buy or refinance with little or nothing down.

Of course, borrowing 100 percent of a home's purchase price makes for steep monthly payments. To lure or qualify them, brokers offered rates that were low for a couple of months or years, then shot up to normal subprime rates.

They added other features that kept payments abnormally low in the early years, such as interest-only or flexible-payment options.

These ticking time bombs were bound to blow up when rates and payments were adjusted. If brokers disclosed this fact, they told their clients not to worry because they could sell the house and repay the loan, assuming the home's value would go up.

If homeowners wanted to keep their homes, they could refinance the mortgage. This also assumes the value of the house would go up or the borrower's income or credit rating would vastly increase.

Some lenders stopped requiring borrowers to fully document their income.

An estimated 15 percent of subprime loans went to investors who did not plan to live in the home.

This layering of risk is what made subprime loans so toxic.

"Even if you have only two of those factors, you are in trouble," says Ken Rosen, professor of real estate and urban economics at UC Berkeley.

As competition heated up, name-brand lenders got into the subprime game. In 2006, Wells Fargo was the largest originator of subprime loans. It quickly sold most of those loans but retained servicing rights.

The explosion of what were called affordability loans contributed to the run-up in housing prices, which required ever-riskier loans in an upward spiral that came to a halt last year, when home prices stopped rising.

Late last year, lenders started reporting higher-than-expected subprime defaults. Many borrowers were defaulting in the first few months, before their loans had even reached the adjustment period.

Suddenly, investors got cautious, subprime lenders started closing the doors and subprime loans became harder to get, which exacerbated the decline in some areas.

A major fear among politicians is that rising foreclosures will drag down the value of all homes.

A new report from the Joint Economic Committee of Congress cites a study that said "a single-family home foreclosure lowers the value of homes located within one-eighth of a mile (or one city block) by an average of 0.9 percent."

The head of that committee, Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., has been a vocal proponent of a bailout of subprime borrowers.

"The federal government can send in an infusion of (money) to prevent foreclosure," he said earlier this month.

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http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/04/22/BUGU9PB34E1.DTL

red states rule
07-29-2007, 05:25 AM
Hell, I thought the libs would be over this thread - defending Chucky and the increased spending of the Nanny State

red states rule
07-29-2007, 05:27 AM
Why is it libs want to ignore personal responsibility?

It is our personal responsibility to be aware of the fine print and potentials for any contract we enter into it. It is NOT the taxpayers responsibility to bail us out. That's insanity and it's an incredibly slippery slope that we shouldn't ever, ever go near.

Next libs will want the government to pay your car loan before it is taken out of your driveway one night - or your credit card bills before your credit score is shot to hell

actsnoblemartin
08-01-2007, 09:32 AM
the government can give you free money , some guy name lesko

nevadamedic
08-01-2007, 06:19 PM
the government can give you free money , some guy name lesko

Huh?

red states rule
08-01-2007, 06:35 PM
the government can give you free money , some guy name lesko

For the small fee of 49.95

Both are a rip off

red states rule
08-01-2007, 06:36 PM
Huh?

The idiot on TV dressed like the Riddler who says if you buy his book - you can get free money from the US Government