Why are we afraid of a Clinton Presidency?

[Abbey Marie]

Interesting take on why we should be very, very afraid.


Conservatives, Republicans, and independents around the country are panicked over the possibility of a Hillary Clinton (https://www.conservativereview.com/2016-presidential-candidates/candidates/hillary-clinton)presidency.It is inarguably true that America is in desperate need of a conservative president. Voters have waited and waited, and the havoc Trump has wreaked on the party on his path to the nomination may take a while to heal. This was not the 2016 we deserved. It is, however, the one we got.
But why is everyone so scared of a Clinton presidency? Put simply: The reason everyone is so afraid of Hillary is because Congress sucks.

With polls looking unfavorable for Donald Trump, the sense of dread at having to face four years under Hillary’s watch is compounded by the knowledge that these will be another four years of unmitigated defeat and progressive disaster. Clinton will undoubtedly consolidate more power and tip the delicately balanced scales of checks and balances ever more toward the executive branch. After all, that is what progressives do — it’s in their nature to transform institutions and centralize power.
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Read more at: https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/10/why-the-nation-is-scared-of-hillary-clinton

[bullypulpit]

Interesting take on why we should be very, very afraid.



Read more at: https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/10/why-the-nation-is-scared-of-hillary-clinton

Why are y'all afraid of a Clinton presidency? Because you've consumed every fabrication, exaggeration, prevarication and obfuscation the GOP, FOX Noise and the Alt-Right media have excreted, as if it were manna from heaven. But then their stock-in-trade is appealing to your fears, your insecurities, your prejudices. That coupled with the authoritarian bent, the fear of change, the desire for a static and unchanging environment, and the wish to be ruled...not governed, are all part and parcel of your fears of a Clinton presidency.

I do pity you if you truly see Donald J. Trump as the savior you and your fellow travelers are making him out to be.

[jimnyc]

Why are y'all afraid of a Clinton presidency? Because you've consumed every fabrication, exaggeration, prevarication and obfuscation the GOP, FOX Noise and the Alt-Right media have excreted, as if it were manna from heaven. But then their stock-in-trade is appealing to your fears, your insecurities, your prejudices. That coupled with the authoritarian bent, the fear of change, the desire for a static and unchanging environment, and the wish to be ruled...not governed, are all part and parcel of your fears of a Clinton presidency.

I do pity you if you truly see Donald J. Trump as the savior you and your fellow travelers are making him out to be.

Did Hillary Clinton break the law with her email server - did she lie to the congress, did she lie to the American people and then did she lie to the FBI? I'm just curious as to your answer on these, yes or no to all is quite fine.

[aboutime]

Why are y'all afraid of a Clinton presidency? Because you've consumed every fabrication, exaggeration, prevarication and obfuscation the GOP, FOX Noise and the Alt-Right media have excreted, as if it were manna from heaven. But then their stock-in-trade is appealing to your fears, your insecurities, your prejudices. That coupled with the authoritarian bent, the fear of change, the desire for a static and unchanging environment, and the wish to be ruled...not governed, are all part and parcel of your fears of a Clinton presidency.

I do pity you if you truly see Donald J. Trump as the savior you and your fellow travelers are making him out to be.


bully. There ain't that much pity any of us can fear from someone who is so convinced the Democrat, Obama, Hillary Lies are actually facts. Truth is. We don't pity you, or the Dems, Libs, because there is no cure for Stupid, and all of you ran out of that kind of saving grace, back when LBJ was fooling you.

[aboutime]

Maybe BOTH OF YOU should be good, honest Americans, and explain why this video should SCARE YOU too???
http://youtu.be/bLw34PMzcrU

[Elessar]

Interesting take on why we should be very, very afraid.
Read more at: https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/10/why-the-nation-is-scared-of-hillary-clinton

She follows a pattern.

CIC's I served under:

Gerald Ford....good man that wanted to heal the Nation.

Jimmy Carter...good man that had no spine to stand up to Iran and Iraq.

GHW Bush...great leader who fell short by abiding to the UN over Iraq.

Bill Clinton...good in ways but a chicken-shit draft dodger, could not do
anything after assaults but shoot missiles... harmlessly.

GWB...stood by his pledge to support and enforce our laws.

BHO...backs down on every threat in foreign policy, but injects his
own opinion on domestic strife - leaning to the criminal element and
making excuses. Good job as a 'Community Organizer' - what ever that is!

[aboutime]

http://youtu.be/Y7Fd3ZEUsRo

[bullypulpit]

Did Hillary Clinton break the law with her email server - did she lie to the congress, did she lie to the American people and then did she lie to the FBI? I'm just curious as to your answer on these, yes or no to all is quite fine.

A simple black and white answer to a complex question...It's sadly typical of those enamored of authoritarian politics and world view. So to adequately answer your question I must, perforce, provide an answer other than the simplistic binary choice you are requesting.

1. Did she break the law with her e-mail server?
Not according to the director of the FBI. And not from any of the evidence presented by her GOP accusers.
2. Did she lie to Congress?
Probably not.
3. Did she lie to the American people?
I have yet to see a politician that hasn't, at some point or another, lied to the voters. Trump is probably one of the, if not the worst in terms of the scope and breadth of his prevarications.
4. Did she lie to the FBI?
Again, probably not.

Complex questions, complex issues...they do not yield to simple answers. Answers like those provided by an authoritarian populist like Trump. No matter how much you wish it otherwise, Jimmy, your predilection for simplistic answers to complex issues will yield you little more than ashes in your mouth.

[bullypulpit]

bully. There ain't that much pity any of us can fear from someone who is so convinced the Democrat, Obama, Hillary Lies are actually facts. Truth is. We don't pity you, or the Dems, Libs, because there is no cure for Stupid, and all of you ran out of that kind of saving grace, back when LBJ was fooling you.

None so blind as those who will not see...none so deaf as those who will not hear.

[aboutime]

None so blind as those who will not see...none so deaf as those who will not hear.


Wow bully. You really know how to quote famous lines. But you should tell us why you ignored my previous words. Unless you really do FEAR being told the truth.

[gabosaurus]

First of all, why isn't Trump a "chicken shit draft dodger?" He obtained five different deferments during the Viet Nam era.

I wouldn't support Hillary if I had a decent alternative. I don't. I am casting my vote for a liberal Supreme Court.

[bullypulpit]

Wow bully. You really know how to quote famous lines. But you should tell us why you ignored my previous words. Unless you really do FEAR being told the truth.

Given that you wouldn't know what truth is even if it bit you on the butt, got lockjaw and died, I don't have anything at all to fear from you. And the truth is not something I fear. Project much?

[fj1200]

Why are y'all afraid of a Clinton presidency?

I'm afraid of either NY liberal Presidency that apparently seeks to consolidate power in the Executive.

[Bilgerat]

A simple black and white answer to a complex question...It's sadly typical of those enamored of authoritarian politics and world view. So to adequately answer your question I must, perforce, provide an answer other than the simplistic binary choice you are requesting.

1. Did she break the law with her e-mail server?
Not according to the director of the FBI. And not from any of the evidence presented by her GOP accusers.
2. Did she lie to Congress?
Probably not.
3. Did she lie to the American people?
I have yet to see a politician that hasn't, at some point or another, lied to the voters. Trump is probably one of the, if not the worst in terms of the scope and breadth of his prevarications.
4. Did she lie to the FBI?
Again, probably not.

Complex questions, complex issues...they do not yield to simple answers. Answers like those provided by an authoritarian populist like Trump. No matter how much you wish it otherwise, Jimmy, your predilection for simplistic answers to complex issues will yield you little more than ashes in your mouth.

To quote you


None so blind as those who will not see...none so deaf as those who will not hear.

[jimnyc]

A simple black and white answer to a complex question...It's sadly typical of those enamored of authoritarian politics and world view. So to adequately answer your question I must, perforce, provide an answer other than the simplistic binary choice you are requesting.

1. Did she break the law with her e-mail server?
Not according to the director of the FBI. And not from any of the evidence presented by her GOP accusers.
2. Did she lie to Congress?
Probably not.
3. Did she lie to the American people?
I have yet to see a politician that hasn't, at some point or another, lied to the voters. Trump is probably one of the, if not the worst in terms of the scope and breadth of his prevarications.
4. Did she lie to the FBI?
Again, probably not.

Complex questions, complex issues...they do not yield to simple answers. Answers like those provided by an authoritarian populist like Trump. No matter how much you wish it otherwise, Jimmy, your predilection for simplistic answers to complex issues will yield you little more than ashes in your mouth.

All the lies, right here- PROVEN. You are delusional!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek8mr8zodk4

[aboutime]

Given that you wouldn't know what truth is even if it bit you on the butt, got lockjaw and died, I don't have anything at all to fear from you. And the truth is not something I fear. Project much?



Thank you bully. You must have forgotten about so many other members here....also reading what you continue to say. Of course you don't fear me. As for the truth. Most of us know from experience over many years. YOUR VERSION of the truth is like Obama's, and Hillary's. So the denial is the first sign we recognize from you. Your idle arrogance makes you look even less informed, and educated than the average Liberal, Easily-led, Democrat voter who has learned to believe Lies, and call them truth.

[Elessar]

A simple black and white answer to a complex question...It's sadly typical of those enamored of authoritarian politics and world view. So to adequately answer your question I must, perforce, provide an answer other than the simplistic binary choice you are requesting.

1. Did she break the law with her e-mail server?
Not according to the director of the FBI. And not from any of the evidence presented by her GOP accusers.
2. Did she lie to Congress?
Probably not.
3. Did she lie to the American people?
I have yet to see a politician that hasn't, at some point or another, lied to the voters. Trump is probably one of the, if not the worst in terms of the scope and breadth of his prevarications.
4. Did she lie to the FBI?
Again, probably not.

Complex questions, complex issues...they do not yield to simple answers. Answers like those provided by an authoritarian populist like Trump. No matter how much you wish it otherwise, Jimmy, your predilection for simplistic answers to complex issues will yield you little more than ashes in your mouth.

If you would care to read back, I have completely refuted the "not guilty" whine you are posting about classified information
and systems.

If you would read back, more than one person has cited evidence of her crimes.

You tell me why she was close to getting sanctioned from Watergate Investigation.

You tell me why she claimed to dodge sniper fire in Kosovo, yet was filmed walking calmly along the tarmac.

You tell me why in 2007 she asked "who would you want answering the phone at 3 a.m.?" Yet she did
NOT answer it during the Benghazi attack and did not respond to requests for better security for 6 months prior.
She called it a riot over a video for days publicly.... but told her daughter it was a terrorist attack privately within 24 hours
of the event.

You need to wake up.

[Elessar]

First of all, why isn't Trump a "chicken shit draft dodger?" He obtained five different deferments during the Viet Nam era.

I wouldn't support Hillary if I had a decent alternative. I don't. I am casting my vote for a liberal Supreme Court.

I missed the draft by 3 numbers.

Bill Clinton dodged the draft by having his draft board hide his induction papers, and
never even wore his ROTC uniform.

[bullypulpit]

Thank you bully. You must have forgotten about so many other members here....also reading what you continue to say. Of course you don't fear me. As for the truth. Most of us know from experience over many years. YOUR VERSION of the truth is like Obama's, and Hillary's. So the denial is the first sign we recognize from you. Your idle arrogance makes you look even less informed, and educated than the average Liberal, Easily-led, Democrat voter who has learned to believe Lies, and call them truth.

It's sad, really. I mean watching you try to string your entire vocabulary together into two or three sentences.

[aboutime]

It's sad, really. I mean watching you try to string your entire vocabulary together into two or three sentences.


No it's not as sad, as you are Funny. Trying to sound like an English, Vocabulary Cop on the internet is usually a sign many of us have seen over the years. A sign we are all familiar with as a Diversion, or Distraction from remaining on the subject.

bully-T-pulpit. And the 'T' stands for Troll, and that rhymes with a Hole. Thanks for the laughs.:laugh:

[aboutime]

I missed the draft by 3 numbers.

Bill Clinton dodged the draft by having his draft board hide his induction papers, and
never even wore his ROTC uniform.


Elessar. Sounds like gabby might be related to John PURPLE HEART Kerry, Vietnam WAR Hero, Liar, and Context Scrambler Extraordinaire. Bet gabby doesn't want us to think about Bubba Clinton right now, so she accuses Trump of doing what SHE MIGHT HAVE DONE.....as well if she was intelligent enough to qualify for Service to Our Nation.

[Bilgerat]

I missed the draft by 3 numbers.

Bill Clinton dodged the draft by having his draft board hide his induction papers, and
never even wore his ROTC uniform.


It's the only lottery I've ever won

Number one on my years drawing, enlisted in the Coast Guard the next day.

My recruiter met me and laughingly gave ME my birthdate.

[Russ]

1. Did she break the law with her e-mail server?
Not according to the director of the FBI. And not from any of the evidence presented by her GOP accusers.
2. Did she lie to Congress?
Probably not.
3. Did she lie to the American people?
I have yet to see a politician that hasn't, at some point or another, lied to the voters. Trump is probably one of the, if not the worst in terms of the scope and breadth of his prevarications.
4. Did she lie to the FBI?
Again, probably not.


Wow, if I were ever on trial, I'd love to have someone as gullible or as blind as you on the jury. Did she lie to Congress? - "Probably not." Hahahahaha! Did she lie to the FBI? - "Probably not." Lolololol! Wow, I guess if you can say it, then you just expect us all to believe it. Bully, she contradicted her own previous sworn statements with later sworn statements. Therefore, she lied in at least one of the sworn statements (probably both, I'm thinking)

Did she break the law with her email server? - "Not according to the director of the FBI". While this is technically true, if you couldn't tell the Comey was dancing a political dance in order to keep his career, then you need to buy a clue. Comey's statement about not breaking the law but being "extremely careless with national security" was a thinly veiled codephrase for "she broke the law with her email server."

[gabosaurus]

I believe the original topic to be "Why are we afraid of a Clinton presidency."
I have noticed that recent replies have deviated into off topic territory.
So...what are you afraid of?

Well, besides the obvious.

https://i.imgflip.com/1ciu7o.jpg

[Elessar]

I believe the original topic to be "Why are we afraid of a Clinton presidency."
I have noticed that recent replies have deviated into off topic territory.
So...what are you afraid of?

Well, besides the obvious.

https://i.imgflip.com/1ciu7o.jpg

Off Topic?

Full topic, Gabby.

She's been lying to and deceiving the Nation since Watergate!

[Elessar]

It's sad, really. I mean watching you try to string your entire vocabulary together into two or three sentences.
All you do is insult.

That does not pass as vocabulary.

You are being a whiny piece of liberal shit.

I love Gabby to death as a friend. She is reasonable for a liberal.
You are just miserable and carry no substance.

[gabosaurus]

On the topic of the upcoming election, I believe in the words written by the great Dave Mason:


So let's leave it alone, 'cause we can't see eye to eye
There ain't no good guy, there ain't no bad guy
There's only you and me and we just disagree

[Abbey Marie]

All you do is insult.

That does not pass as vocabulary.

You are being a whiny piece of liberal shit.

I love Gabby to death as a friend. She is reasonable for a liberal.
You are just miserable and carry no substance.

Yup. The amount of times he calls others pathetic tells me he himself has vast insecurities.

[Little-Acorn]

Why are we afraid of a Clinton Presidency?


Because she will nominate more "judges" who regard the Constitution, not as a framework we must adhere to and/or modify by the states' consent as laid out in the document, but as an obstacle in the path to the socialist government they want to impose on the rest of us.

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[jimnyc]

All the lies, right here- PROVEN. You are delusional!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek8mr8zodk4

Bully says she didn't lie. 100% proof is given. He returns to thread - and of course AGAIN avoids answering the tough stuff, the FACTS.

[Kathianne]

Just my opinion, but the behavior of the media on all fronts has sort of muted criticism of other outlets. Got the Politico reporter colluding with Podesta; WaPo announcing they've assigned 20 reporters to uncovering dirt on Trump, while treating Clinton differently; little reporting on Wikileaks-until the quid pro quo...

[JessStress]

Hill yes? Hell NO! #stopkillary

http://www.debatepolicy.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9434&stc=1

[gabosaurus]

The election where everyone loses:

https://pajamasmed.hs.llnwd.net/e1/victordavishanson/user-content/2/files/2016/03/king_kong_godzilla_trump_hillary_article_banner_3-20-16-1.sized-770x415xc.jpg

[Sir Evil]

Bully says she didn't lie. 100% proof is given. He returns to thread - and of course AGAIN avoids answering the tough stuff, the FACTS.

Perfectly normal for Bulltit! Some things never change...:rolleyes:

[Sir Evil]

On the topic of the upcoming election, I believe in the words written by the great Dave Mason:

Hi box of rocks, still haven't figured out how to form your own opinions so found it necessary to use someone else?..... Again, some things never change! :laugh2:

[aboutime]

If the MSM refuses to answer these questions....and Gabby insists she is smarter than all of us, and the media. How bout it gabby? Can you answer any of the questions on the video?

Show us....
http://youtu.be/iaNl2tVAhPY

[KarlMarx]

1. Did she break the law with her e-mail server?
Not according to the director of the FBI. And not from any of the evidence presented by her GOP accusers.

ANSWER: That goes to show you just how gullible you are. The head of the FBI reports to the Attorney General who reports to the President. And let's say this, the Obama White House had no intention of prosecuting the presumptive Democratic Presidential Nominee. You assume that the FBI director came up with this conclusion objectively when, in fact, he was likely coerced by his boss, the AG to do otherwise. Just what was discussed on the tarmac between the AG and the Clintons anyway?

There is more....

Setting up an email server to store and disseminate classified information without authorization is a violation of 18 U.S. Code § 798 - Disclosure of classified information

By the FBI's own admission, Hillary Clinton acted in a careless manner when it came to handling classified information. She pleads complete ignorance of the nature of the information she mishandled. When in fact, anyone who receives a clearance is given a security briefing on how to handle classified information.

If I, or anyone else, had done the things she did, we'd be facing a grand jury at the very least. Just to prove my point, a Marine General was sentenced to hard time in prison for disclosing classified information to someone writing a book.... Why? Because the FBI is trying to regain its credibility that it lost during the Clinton email scandal. And further, why was it a punishable offense when the general did it but not a punishable offense when Hillary Clinton did the same thing?

People like Hillary Clinton will always be in power so long as they have people like you that will believe her every word and give her the benefit of the doubt.