Trump says now is the time to borrow more money

[crin63]

Apparently, the plan isn't to cut the debt but to add to it.



Trump demurred when asked just how much debt he was comfortable with taking on, but he argued that ideally the U.S. would borrow even more than the $500 billion in new infrastructure spending he pledged last week (http://fortune.com/2016/08/03/donald-trump-infrastructure/). That would only compound the problem Trump already faces in his proposed tax cuts adding to the debt and deficit. Previous analyses of Trump’s tax plan said that it would add $9.5 trillion (http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/publications/analysis-donald-trumps-tax-plan/full) in debt over 10 years, although the revisions he announced earlier this week would likely bring that figure down.

http://fortune.com/2016/08/11/donald-trump-national-debt-cnbc/

[DLT]

Apparently, the plan isn't to cut the debt but to add to it.



Trump demurred when asked just how much debt he was comfortable with taking on, but he argued that ideally the U.S. would borrow even more than the $500 billion in new infrastructure spending he pledged last week (http://fortune.com/2016/08/03/donald-trump-infrastructure/). That would only compound the problem Trump already faces in his proposed tax cuts adding to the debt and deficit. Previous analyses of Trump’s tax plan said that it would add $9.5 trillion (http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/publications/analysis-donald-trumps-tax-plan/full) in debt over 10 years, although the revisions he announced earlier this week would likely bring that figure down.

http://fortune.com/2016/08/11/donald-trump-national-debt-cnbc/

Is there any doubt......that Trump is 'still' a big-government loving liberal? With 23 liens against one of his golf clubs....

http://www.miamiherald.com/entertainment/ent-columns-blogs/jose-lambiet/article94916657.html

and with how many bankruptcies again....?.....

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Trump is by no means fit to run our economy. It has already been run into the ground by the 'other' liberal elites.

[Kathianne]

Well it seems he's going with the Obama belief that spending public money will result in an improved economy and the improvements will result in increased taxes to pay down the debt. I know, :laugh2:

Hillary uses the word 'investing' to describe the same spending.

[fj1200]

Have Republicans embraced Keynes now? Smith, Ricardo, Friedman, et al don't seem to be embraced anymore.

[Kathianne]

Have Republicans embraced Keynes now? Smith, Ricardo, Friedman, et al don't seem to be embraced anymore.

Republicans maybe. Those who are more classical conservatives? No way.

[fj1200]

Republicans maybe. Those who are more classical conservatives? No way.

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[Gunny]

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I don't get why people think you can spend your way out of debt. I get why Obama did it. Everything he's done has been to pass the buck. Truman would be a proud Democrat. :rolleyes: He's passing off an unprecedented debt and a fiasco in the ME.

Trump is a developer which means he's a gambler. The problem is the flip side of the coin is a criminal no one will prosecute. While we're blaming the left we need to take a look in the mirror. We had plenty of more qualified candidates than Trump.

Now it's just about damage control.

[Kathianne]

Oh Lordy, here's more on his spending ideas. $500B on infrastructure, doubling Hillary's $250B. He's making her look like a cheap progressive. He doesn't seem to have anymore specifics in mind than when Obama unleashed his trillion in 'shovel ready' jobs for infrastructure. Money gone, no jobs, no infrastructure. Trump throws out, "beautiful airports, like Dubai, ours aren't like that. They're like 3rd world..." Actually they are not like 3rd world, they are like airports. Get in, get out, when weather permits. Works of art? Nope, more like warehouses, but that's ok. In and out. Trump wants "Vegas, baby!" He also, like Obama seems partial to trains-a known failure for long distance, check Amtrak.

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/08/12/trump-goes-full-bernie-again-with-pro-borrowing-comments/


Trump goes full Bernie (again) with pro-borrowing comments

POSTED AT 6:41 PM ON AUGUST 12, 2016 BY TAYLOR MILLARD


Donald Trump is going full Bernie Sanders, again! While a lot of people are focusing on his comments calling President Barack Obama the founder of ISIS, Trump also told CNBC yesterday how he believes government spending will solve the nation’s economic issues. Transcript via (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/08/11/the-donald-trump-interview-that-should-terrify-national-republicans-annotated/)The Washington Post:


WILFRED FROST: In your businesses, you’ve used leverage in the past. When you look at the shape of the yield curve for U.S. Treasury debt at the moment, how low interest rates are, is this a moment for the U.S. To borrow and spend in order to stimulate growth that you spoke about infrastructure spending? Are you happy to boost the balance sheets it were of the U.S. economy at the moment?

TRUMP: Well, I’ve always loved leverage. As Becky can tell you. I’ve always, you know, respected leverage but I’ve always loved it. But a country is a different thing. However, with that being said, the interest rates are so low, I mean, the numbers are so low, that yes this is a time to borrow and borrow long-term. So that we have the money and rebuild our infrastructure. We could have the money – we have things we have no choice.


What does Trump want to use the money for? Rebuilding the military AND infrastructure. Again, via WaPost: (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/08/11/the-donald-trump-interview-that-should-terrify-national-republicans-annotated/)

We have to fix our military. We have to take care of our vets. It’s a disaster what’s going on with our vets. And the veterans administration. We have to fix our infrastructure. Our country’s infrastructure is in horrible condition. Worst condition it’s ever been in. Bridges are in — I mean, in dangerous shape. I think 50% of the bridges are actually in dangerous shape. When you think of that, that’s incredible. Where they could fall. Roads, tunnels, hospitals. I mean, everything. We have to fix the airports. Our airports are like third world countries. You go into some of these beautiful airports, you go into Dubai and you go into different places throughout the world and you see airports that are unbelievable. That we’ve never had in this country. And then you fly into La Guardia or you fly into LAX. Or you fly into Kennedy, any of them. You fly into these airports, it’s like a third world country. So we have to fix our airports and our transportation system and our trains which are, you know, a hundred years old. We have trains from a hundred years ago. Those are the good ones. And you go to China and you go to these other places and you see the bullet trains. They go hundred miles an hour .

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[debater]

Does anyone feel like the US is the Twilight Zone today?
The USA is a bankrupt warmongering police state, but no one wants to talk about the collapse.
Americans would rather cover their ears and put their heads in the sand.
Now you know how the Germans must have felt in 1939.
Scary.
http://www.desototimes.com/opinion/columns_editorials/could-the-fourth-reich-happen-here/article_cb7cb93c-efbc-11e6-8a1f-5b019805ede4.html

[LongTermGuy]

Does anyone feel like the US is the Twilight Zone today?
The USA is a bankrupt warmongering police state, but no one wants to talk about the collapse.
Americans would rather cover their ears and put their heads in the sand.
Now you know how the Germans must have felt in 1939.
Scary.
http://www.desototimes.com/opinion/columns_editorials/could-the-fourth-reich-happen-here/article_cb7cb93c-efbc-11e6-8a1f-5b019805ede4.html

The only twilight-zone thing going on is the damage done by obama and crew.....Repub establishment....and the drooling at the mouth (my guy didn't win) Trump haters who are looking for anything...anything they can spin...and start saying ...see...see...see....

...Trump has cacaroaches from all sides attacking him....none of the others Trump BEAT...could stand the pressure.....they were all weak...Cruz`s was the only one that might of stood a chance of the continues onslaught for awhile.....Trump is perfect for the position and...>>> what he has to work with to make things happen....Trump has good people working with him now...




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJaNG7MUwfA

[debater]

How can Americans sleep at night while the USA is collapsing?


Soros, Obama, Clinton, and Trump all support endless wars, debt, and tyranny. What's the difference?

Has Trump opposed trade wars, starting wars with Iran, Mexico, China, Russia, and North Korea, driving up the debt, ending minimum wages, opening concentration camps, banning free speech, religious freedom, freedom from warrantless searches, freedom from torture, security cameras, license plate readers, checkpoints, redlight cameras, speed cameras, FBI facial and voice recognition, curfews, gun bans, NSA wiretapping, the end to the right to silence, searches without warrants, private prisons, mandatory minimums, 3 strikes laws, DNA databases, CISPA, SOPA, IMBRA, private prison quotas, no knock raids, take down notices, no fly lists, terror watch lists, Constitution free zones, stop and frisk, 3 strikes laws, kill switches, National Security Letters, DNA databases, kill lists, FBAR, FATCA, Operation Chokepoint, TSA groping, civil forfeiture, CIA torture, NDAA indefinite detention, secret FISA courts, FEMA camps, laws requiring passports for domestic travel, IRS laws denying passports for tax debts, gun and ammo stockpiles, laws outlawing protesting, police militarization, and Jade Helm?

Has Trump arrested the bankers, decreased taxes, kicked out the illegal aliens, ended the Fed, ended the wars, ended welfare, ended Obamacare, and restored the Bill of Rights?

Trump doesn't work for you. He works for the elites.

The time for supporting Trump has ended and the time for buying gold, guns, and food has arrived.

Wake up. Think. Spread the word. Dark times are coming.

[NightTrain]

How can Americans sleep at night while the USA is collapsing?


Soros, Obama, Clinton, and Trump all support endless wars, debt, and tyranny. What's the difference?

Has Trump opposed trade wars, starting wars with Iran, Mexico, China, Russia, and North Korea, driving up the debt, ending minimum wages, opening concentration camps, banning free speech, religious freedom, freedom from warrantless searches, freedom from torture, security cameras, license plate readers, checkpoints, redlight cameras, speed cameras, FBI facial and voice recognition, curfews, gun bans, NSA wiretapping, the end to the right to silence, searches without warrants, private prisons, mandatory minimums, 3 strikes laws, DNA databases, CISPA, SOPA, IMBRA, private prison quotas, no knock raids, take down notices, no fly lists, terror watch lists, Constitution free zones, stop and frisk, 3 strikes laws, kill switches, National Security Letters, DNA databases, kill lists, FBAR, FATCA, Operation Chokepoint, TSA groping, civil forfeiture, CIA torture, NDAA indefinite detention, secret FISA courts, FEMA camps, laws requiring passports for domestic travel, IRS laws denying passports for tax debts, gun and ammo stockpiles, laws outlawing protesting, police militarization, and Jade Helm?

Has Trump arrested the bankers, decreased taxes, kicked out the illegal aliens, ended the Fed, ended the wars, ended welfare, ended Obamacare, and restored the Bill of Rights?

Trump doesn't work for you. He works for the elites.

The time for supporting Trump has ended and the time for buying gold, guns, and food has arrived.

Wake up. Think. Spread the word. Dark times are coming.

Is that what your Commie masters are telling you?

We're doing just fine. Don't worry about us.


Hey, you still haven't thanked us for saving you from that tiny nation of Japan a while back. They were all over you chinese like a Pitbull on a Poodle and you haven't shown your gratitude for saving you. That's not very nice. :no:

[aboutime]

As useful as a box full of CONDOMS with holes in them. PAY ATTENTION DeBater:

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[debater]

If you could print all the money you wanted, and steal all the money you wanted, couldn’t you manage to stay out of debt?

[Gunny]

If you could print all the money you wanted, and steal all the money you wanted, couldn’t you manage to stay out of debt?Why do that? We borrowed from you. Now talk shit and start a war. Guess where YOUR economy's going? Hold your breath waiting on getting more than that interest check in mail:laugh:

[High_Plains_Drifter]

If you could print all the money you wanted, and steal all the money you wanted, couldn’t you manage to stay out of debt?
If you used one word to describe yourself, what would be?

A) Insane
B) Lunatic
C) Retarded
D) Disturbed
E) Psychotic
F) Crazy
E) Deranged
F) Unhinged
G) ____________________ (fill in the blank)

[Drummond]

How can Americans sleep at night while the USA is collapsing?


Soros, Obama, Clinton, and Trump all support endless wars, debt, and tyranny. What's the difference?

Has Trump opposed trade wars, starting wars with Iran, Mexico, China, Russia, and North Korea, driving up the debt, ending minimum wages, opening concentration camps, banning free speech, religious freedom, freedom from warrantless searches, freedom from torture, security cameras, license plate readers, checkpoints, redlight cameras, speed cameras, FBI facial and voice recognition, curfews, gun bans, NSA wiretapping, the end to the right to silence, searches without warrants, private prisons, mandatory minimums, 3 strikes laws, DNA databases, CISPA, SOPA, IMBRA, private prison quotas, no knock raids, take down notices, no fly lists, terror watch lists, Constitution free zones, stop and frisk, 3 strikes laws, kill switches, National Security Letters, DNA databases, kill lists, FBAR, FATCA, Operation Chokepoint, TSA groping, civil forfeiture, CIA torture, NDAA indefinite detention, secret FISA courts, FEMA camps, laws requiring passports for domestic travel, IRS laws denying passports for tax debts, gun and ammo stockpiles, laws outlawing protesting, police militarization, and Jade Helm?

Has Trump arrested the bankers, decreased taxes, kicked out the illegal aliens, ended the Fed, ended the wars, ended welfare, ended Obamacare, and restored the Bill of Rights?

Trump doesn't work for you. He works for the elites.

The time for supporting Trump has ended and the time for buying gold, guns, and food has arrived.

Wake up. Think. Spread the word. Dark times are coming.

... eh ?????

Good God. This is as bizarrely fantasist an offering on this forum as I think I've ever seen ...

I see you're not from America (.. it shows !! ..). Neither am I.

Even so ... from my own 'foreign' perspective, I cannot perceive what you apparently 'do'.

In my part of the world, the US's President gets plenty of criticism of many varying kinds. Nobody I'm aware of, however, is interpreting the current state of America to be either weak, or, likely to become so, much less in any danger of 'collapse' (!!). In fact ... some fear President Trump's efforts to STRENGTHEN America (.. this from critics from the Left, but of course).

I am in no doubt that the US is on a course which will see it become a stronger and altogether more robust player on the international scene. It will do this from leadership determined to make America as strong as it can be. It will manage this from a leadership which will succeed in that aim.

THE WORLD NEEDS SUCH AN AMERICA TO SHINE AS A LAUDABLE BEACON OF FREEDOM AND DECENCY. CHINA COULD LEARN MUCH FROM AMERICA'S EXAMPLE.

I think, 'Debater', that yours is a wish-list, one invented by people indulging in fantasies generated from a fundamentally antagonistically-minded political opposition. This is propaganda from a political rival.

Nothing more.

But as for your so-called description ... is its repressiveness so far removed from the nature of regime currently ruling China ? H'mm ... ??

[Drummond]

How can Americans sleep at night while the USA is collapsing?


Soros, Obama, Clinton, and Trump all support endless wars, debt, and tyranny. What's the difference?

Has Trump opposed trade wars, starting wars with Iran, Mexico, China, Russia, and North Korea, driving up the debt, ending minimum wages, opening concentration camps, banning free speech, religious freedom, freedom from warrantless searches, freedom from torture, security cameras, license plate readers, checkpoints, redlight cameras, speed cameras, FBI facial and voice recognition, curfews, gun bans, NSA wiretapping, the end to the right to silence, searches without warrants, private prisons, mandatory minimums, 3 strikes laws, DNA databases, CISPA, SOPA, IMBRA, private prison quotas, no knock raids, take down notices, no fly lists, terror watch lists, Constitution free zones, stop and frisk, 3 strikes laws, kill switches, National Security Letters, DNA databases, kill lists, FBAR, FATCA, Operation Chokepoint, TSA groping, civil forfeiture, CIA torture, NDAA indefinite detention, secret FISA courts, FEMA camps, laws requiring passports for domestic travel, IRS laws denying passports for tax debts, gun and ammo stockpiles, laws outlawing protesting, police militarization, and Jade Helm?

Has Trump arrested the bankers, decreased taxes, kicked out the illegal aliens, ended the Fed, ended the wars, ended welfare, ended Obamacare, and restored the Bill of Rights?

Trump doesn't work for you. He works for the elites.

The time for supporting Trump has ended and the time for buying gold, guns, and food has arrived.

Wake up. Think. Spread the word. Dark times are coming.

:cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo::confused::confused::uhoh: :uhoh::believecrap:

[aboutime]

If you used one word to describe yourself, what would be?

A) Insane
B) Lunatic
C) Retarded
D) Disturbed
E) Psychotic
F) Crazy
E) Deranged
F) Unhinged
(fill in the blank)
G) Shit For Brains_(for debater/petey)_

[debater]

This feels like Obama's 3rd term.

[LongTermGuy]

This feels like Obama's 3rd term.




Obama is / was....too weak..scared and to stupid to achieve anything `Americans` want....and need...Obama is a muslim and his wife is a man....his poor sweet children were kidnapped ......obama made all his butt-hurt lemmings submit to his Ignorance....(that was easy) :)

[debater]

The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted.

[LongTermGuy]

The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted.


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[debater]

Every class is unfit to govern.

[darin]

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