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jimnyc
07-06-2016, 08:01 AM
WASHINGTON (AP) — Key assertions by Hillary Clinton in defense of her email practices have collapsed under FBI scrutiny.

The agency's yearlong investigation found that she did not, as she claimed, turn over all her work-related messages for release. It found that her private email server did carry classified emails, also contrary to her past statements. And it made clear that Clinton used many devices to send and receive email despite her statements that she set up her email system so that she only needed to carry one.

FBI Director James Comey's announcement Tuesday that he will not refer criminal charges to the Justice Department against Clinton spared her from prosecution and a devastating political predicament. But it left much of her account in tatters and may have aggravated questions of trust swirling around her Democratic presidential candidacy.

A look at Clinton's claims since questions about her email practices as secretary of state surfaced and how they compare with facts established in the FBI probe:

CLINTON: "I did not email any classified material to anyone on my email. There is no classified material." News conference, March 2015.

THE FACTS: Actually, the FBI identified at least 113 emails that passed through Clinton's server and contained materials that were classified at the time they were sent, including some that were Top Secret and referred to a highly classified special access program, Comey said.

Most of those emails — 110 of them — were included among 30,000 emails that Clinton returned to the State Department around the time her use of a private email server was discovered. The three others were recovered from a forensic analysis of Clinton's server. "Any reasonable person in Secretary Clinton's position or in the position of those with whom she was corresponding about the matters should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that conversation," Comey said. Clinton and her aides "were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information," he said.

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CLINTON: "I never received nor sent any material that was marked classified." NBC interview, July 2016.

THE FACTS: Clinton has separately clung to her rationale that there were no classification markings on her emails that would have warned her and others not to transmit the sensitive material. But the private system did, in fact, handle emails that bore markings indicating they contained classified information, Comey said.

He said the marked emails were "a very small number." But that's not the only standard for judging how officials handle sensitive material, he added. "Even if information is not marked classified in an email, participants who know, or should know, that the subject matter is classified are still obligated to protect it."

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CLINTON: "I responded right away and provided all my emails that could possibly be work related" to the State Department. News conference, March 2015.

THE FACTS: Not so, the FBI found.

Comey said that when his forensic team examined Clinton's server it found there were "several thousand work-related emails that were not in the group of 30,000" that had been returned by Clinton to the State Department.

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CLINTON: "I thought it would be easier to carry just one device for my work and for personal emails instead of two." News conference, March 2015.

THE FACTS: This reasoning for using private email both for public business and private correspondence didn't hold up in the investigation. Clinton "used numerous mobile devices to view and send email" using her personal account, Comey said. He also said Clinton had used different servers.

More lies here - http://www.bigstory.ap.org/article/588c1ba16f51484e8e0010b12b9e8b28/ap-fact-check-clinton-email-claims-collapse-under-fbi-probe

CSM
07-06-2016, 08:14 AM
Absolutely none of these FACTS will make an iota of difference. Words like "honesty" or "integrity" or "trust worthy" are not in the lib's/Dem's lexicon and have no meaning. Facts have no bearing on their thought process. The Queen of Corruption will be elected. Once that is done, the bread and circus charade will escalate and we peons will be told how much better off we are ... even better than when the jackass currently in office ruled the land.

gabosaurus
07-06-2016, 10:30 AM
Come on, Jim. Don't you know that you can never trust anything in the blamestream media? :rolleyes:

Elessar
07-06-2016, 10:35 AM
It's just amazing that all this spill out yet Comey refuses to say there is nothing to charge her with.
Democratic cover-up attempt is what it is.

I know for certain that personal electronic devices are prohibited inside a secure area.
Unless that device is cleared, encrypted, and provided by the government it has no
business carrying secure information to conduct government functions.

Not enough to charge her? Bullshit. He just completely let the People down and should resign.
Should put Trey Gowdy on his sorry ass.

jimnyc
07-06-2016, 11:01 AM
It's just amazing that all this spill out yet Comey refuses to say there is nothing to charge her with.
Democratic cover-up attempt is what it is.

I know for certain that personal electronic devices are prohibited inside a secure area.
Unless that device is cleared, encrypted, and provided by the government it has no
business carrying secure information to conduct government functions.

Not enough to charge her? Bullshit. He just completely let the People down and should resign.
Should put Trey Gowdy on his sorry ass.

Listen to the Giuliani video I posted in the other thread. He worked with Comey at one point in the Justice department. The code is clear as day - or WAS - before he added "intent". She's 100% guilty as sin and Comey admitted as much.

Kathianne
07-06-2016, 11:04 AM
AP listed the lies, so they can say they did. Most people will only hear, 'no recommendation to prosecute.'

Comey made the case for charges, then inexplicably brought up intent, after making sure that it was clear that was unnecessary. He's voluntarily going to oversight committee tomorrow, perhaps we'll know more.

Elessar
07-06-2016, 03:10 PM
Listen to the Giuliani video I posted in the other thread. He worked with Comey at one point in the Justice department. The code is clear as day - or WAS - before he added "intent". She's 100% guilty as sin and Comey admitted as much.

I did, Jim. Rudi is no fool, that's for sure.

Trying to play "Intent" versus "Negligence and Carelessness" is contrary to the farkin' Law. He should resign.

Abbey Marie
07-06-2016, 03:20 PM
Here's the thing about this FBI debacle that simultaneously infuriates my sense of justice, and still makes me able to get past it:

Almost every Dem would have voted for Hillary either way.

gabosaurus
07-06-2016, 04:14 PM
Hillary Clinton is like every other politicians. She lies when it suits her. The she'll smile at you while she stabs you in the back.
But if the charges don't fit, you must acquit.

The question is: will the GOP move on to more important things in the campaign? I am beginning to believe that Republicans will continue to attack this issue as an excuse not to have to endorse Donald Trump.
The leading member of the GOP, Paul Ryan, attacks Trump as often as he attacks Hillary.

jimnyc
07-06-2016, 07:13 PM
Here's the thing about this FBI debacle that simultaneously infuriates my sense of justice, and still makes me able to get past it:

Almost every Dem would have voted for Hillary either way.





That's a fact. Look at the FACTS of the article in this one thread alone, showing how Hillary lied to congress and the entire nation, perjury and criminal actions related to releasing confidential emails. And they literally shrug it off and move onto the next scandal they can deny and stick their heads in the sand over. The majority of these folks only reflect how they are in real life, no morals and such, and are basically scummy people.

Elessar
07-06-2016, 07:20 PM
Hillary Clinton is like every other politicians. She lies when it suits her. The she'll smile at you while she stabs you in the back.
But if the charges don't fit, you must acquit.

The question is: will the GOP move on to more important things in the campaign? I am beginning to believe that Republicans will continue to attack this issue as an excuse not to have to endorse Donald Trump.
The leading member of the GOP, Paul Ryan, attacks Trump as often as he attacks Hillary.

What is more important than National Security, both here and abroad?

I expect no less from Paul Ryan. He is a teacher and not a follower.

aboutime
07-06-2016, 07:49 PM
Hillary Clinton is like every other politicians. She lies when it suits her. The she'll smile at you while she stabs you in the back.
But if the charges don't fit, you must acquit.

The question is: will the GOP move on to more important things in the campaign? I am beginning to believe that Republicans will continue to attack this issue as an excuse not to have to endorse Donald Trump.
The leading member of the GOP, Paul Ryan, attacks Trump as often as he attacks Hillary.


And gabby. I'd be willing to bet....YOU think O.J. is innocent, much like Charles Manson.