Captain Kirk or Jean-Luc?

[Gunny]

We don't have to guess with me. :laugh: Scotty, divert all power to the photon torpedoes. We're blowing some sh*t up.

[Elessar]

Both had certain unique qualities.

I would take Jean-Luc Picard over Kirk because Patrick Stewart is a much
more 'polished' actor than William Shatner. Shatner forces his lines where
Stewart lets them flow.

[fj1200]

I must admit it's strange to see a choice between James Tiberius Kirk and Jean-Claude Van Damme. :dunno:

[Elessar]

I must admit it's strange to see a choice between James Tiberius Kirk and Jean-Claude Van Damme. :dunno:

I read 'between the lines' on this!:laugh:

[fj1200]

I read 'between the lines' on this!:laugh:

Your loose constructionist to my strict constructionist then. ;)

[Gunny]

Both had certain unique qualities.

I would take Jean-Luc Picard over Kirk because Patrick Stewart is a much
more 'polished' actor than William Shatner. Shatner forces his lines where
Stewart lets them flow.

Why read between he lines? I'm kicking your ass. I will cheat to do it. Kobiashyi Maru?

[revelarts]

http://pre04.deviantart.net/290a/th/pre/i/2013/133/2/0/an_introduction_to_kirk_fu_by_rabittooth-d5jnrdo.jpg

nuff Said!

[revelarts]

the other thing about Kirk,
Kirk: "..Prime Directive Shrime Directive.
We're going to do the right thing here!
..anyone have a problem with that?"

Spock: "um well technical yes , but .. um no not really boss.
And you might want to try..."

[fj1200]

nuff Said!

He hit that Klingon so hard the eventually evolved an exoskeleton forehead.

[Atticus Finch]

Chris Pine blows them both out of the water IMHO

[Elessar]

Why read between he lines? I'm kicking your ass. I will cheat to do it. Kobiashyi Maru?

You said Jean-Claude and not Jean-Luc, Goofy!:laugh:

I do see you edited it for clarity, though.

[hjmick]

How is this even a fucking question?


Kirk.

[revelarts]

Chris Pine blows them both out of the water IMHO

I have to Say Pine Makes a good Young Alternate universe Captain Kirk but he's NOT Kirk.

Pine's Kirk get beat up several times in each film. sorry NOT Kirk

Shatner=Kirk Accept No substitutes

http://cdn.ebaumsworld.com/picture/Rage_A_Holic/CapitanJamesTKirk.png

[Abbey Marie]

Chris Pine blows them both out of the water IMHO


For overall hotness, oh my, yes.

But I have a soft spot for Picard.

"Earl Grey, Hot."

[Gunny]

For overall hotness, oh my, yes.

But I have a soft spot for Picard.

"Earl Grey, Hot."

Nah. The new crap blows.

[Atticus Finch]

Nah. The new crap blows.sorry Gunny..I'm usually a throw back but on this one I love the latest version of Kirk and company......how can you not like a man who gets it on with green chicks and chicks with (literal) tails?...I mean c'mon!

The fact that he gets his ass beat and he just keeps comin" is what I like.....The toughest guy ain't always the one handing out the ass beatin's.

[Black Diamond]

I don't believe in the no win scenario.


Kirk.

[Russ]

Why read between he lines? I'm kicking your ass. I will cheat to do it. Kobiashyi Maru?

Ha! I love the subtlety! :laugh2:

[Russ]

http://pre04.deviantart.net/290a/th/pre/i/2013/133/2/0/an_introduction_to_kirk_fu_by_rabittooth-d5jnrdo.jpg

nuff Said!




This one made me laugh out loud. I love the way all the Kirk Fu 'recipients' look like they're just standing there, with their hands down at their sides and in some cases with their back turned. It sure looks like Kirk Fu involves a lot of sucker punches. ;)

[Note - of course it only appears that way. As we all know, in reality Kirk Fu saved the Enterprise and the whole Federation many times over]

[darin]

Picard benefited from having much, much better writers. Better, more-complex stories.

Plus his accent gave him credibility.

I've been watching the original StarTrek via Amazon video. What strikes me is this: The women on the show have incredible legs. And EVERY TIME there's an Alien chick in the show, they flash to kirk who always looks suddenly horny.

But my vote is Chris Pine. The dude rocks it - because he has the swagger of Shattner with solid acting chops.

[hjmick]

Well shit... Pine wasn't an option in the OP...

[darin]

Well shit... Pine wasn't an option in the OP...

Yes - He's "Kirk". Because of Pine I select Kirk. Although without Pine I select Picard.

[Atticus Finch]

didn't mean to hijack the thread with Pine, but he is the current Kirk and I can't wait for the next movie coming out July 22.

[Drummond]

Not too surprisingly, I like the 'Britishness' of Patrick Stewart's offering as Jean-Luc Picard (which is odd, if he's supposed to be French ??). We also both like Earl Grey tea ...

.. but I still have to say that Kirk is the better choice. An 'action hero' like the Kirk character always seemed a lot more credible in the role of any Starship captain. Stewart never did seem convincing in that way ...

[Gunny]

sorry Gunny..I'm usually a throw back but on this one I love the latest version of Kirk and company......how can you not like a man who gets it on with green chicks and chicks with (literal) tails?...I mean c'mon!

The fact that he gets his ass beat and he just keeps comin" is what I like.....The toughest guy ain't always the one handing out the ass beatin's.

Sorry. My favorite was the original. I liked TNG, but Picard is too PC. I haven't cared for the movies much.

[Gunny]

didn't mean to hijack the thread with Pine, but he is the current Kirk and I can't wait for the next movie coming out July 22.

Didin't hijack anything I'm aware of. I just didn't think of Pine. His dad played on CHIPS. We all remember things from our own time periods. The original Stark Trek was campy. Shatner couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper bag.:laugh: But it was it was what was on when I was a kid.

[Trigg]

I always preferred Jean-Luc, he acted more like a captain than Kirk.

But of course someone had to sleep with all the alien chicks, I strongly believe that's the only reason William Riker was on the ship. :cool:

[Gunny]

I always preferred Jean-Luc, he acted more like a captain than Kirk.

But of course someone had to sleep with all the alien chicks, I strongly believe that's the only reason William Riker was on the ship. :cool:

He acted more like a Captain in the 80s. Not the 60s. PC hadn't been invented yet. We still got to kill Klingons back then.

[fj1200]

He acted more like a Captain in the 80s. Not the 60s. PC hadn't been invented yet. We still got to kill Klingons back then.


... but how on earth can history get past people like me?

;)

[Gunny]

;)

No offense, but I wouldn't follow you into the NCO Club to get a burger. You are WAY to PC for me.

[fj1200]

No offense, but I wouldn't follow you into the NCO Club to get a burger. You are WAY to PC for me.

It's not my fault I'm so good at finding pointed and relevant quotes. :poke:

[Gunny]

It's not my fault I'm so good at finding pointed and relevant quotes. :poke:

You're better at being irrelevant.

[fj1200]

You're better at being irrelevant.

:laugh: So you'd like to think. ;)

[Gunny]

:laugh: So you'd like to think. ;)

Paramount to you is getting under peoples skin. There is no relevancy to the topic. Fun thread. Go with it.

[fj1200]

Paramount to you is getting under peoples skin. There is no relevancy to the topic. Fun thread. Go with it.

It is a fun thread and I like Star Trek. It's why I pulled a ST quote. :)

And nice Paramount reference. ;)

[Gunny]

It is a fun thread and I like Star Trek. It's why I pulled a ST quote. :)

And nice Paramount reference. ;)

Wondered if you were smart enough to catch that. Try to have some fun instead of being so argumentative.

I'm going with old school Kirk. Even if he did have to wear a girdle. :laugh:

[fj1200]

Wondered if you were smart enough to catch that. Try to have some fun instead of being so argumentative.

I'm going with old school Kirk. Even if he did have to wear a girdle. :laugh:

:) I'm having a blast. So now that the thread has settled down to Kirk, Picard, and Kirk'. I'll have to go with Kirk' but each version has its own advantages. TOS was awful, TNG got better and better, and Abrams is just fun.

[Gunny]

:) I'm having a blast. So now that the thread has settled down to Kirk, Picard, and Kirk'. I'll have to go with Kirk' but each version has its own advantages. TOS was awful, TNG got better and better, and Abrams is just fun.

My favorite movie was The Wrath of Khan. I remembered the original Khan from the 60s. Ricardo Montalban.

[crin63]

That's like asking regular or decaf. Of course Kirk!

I couldn't even watch that other knock-off nonsense.

[Black Diamond]

What about Christopher Pike?

And would you prefer him before or after his injury?

:cool:

[Gunny]

What about Christopher Pike?

And would you prefer him before or after his injury?

:cool:

Jefferey Hunter. Was in the first two episodes. They never developed the character, so it's hard to say.

[Elessar]

Not to be a wet rag on this, but I never grasped to idea of a 4-Striper of always
being the one to lead the charge, unless it involved a ship-to-ship confrontation.

[revelarts]

Kirk Fu is sometimes better than a vulcan neck pinch

http://orig00.deviantart.net/709d/f/2011/017/d/2/st_tos__archons_icon_by_simplecoffee-d37ehx6.gif

[DLT]

Not too surprisingly, I like the 'Britishness' of Patrick Stewart's offering as Jean-Luc Picard (which is odd, if he's supposed to be French ??). We also both like Earl Grey tea ...

.. but I still have to say that Kirk is the better choice. An 'action hero' like the Kirk character always seemed a lot more credible in the role of any Starship captain. Stewart never did seem convincing in that way ...

One of my favorite actors (Andrew Lincoln) is a Brit (love his accent). Oh hell, all right. I admit it. I have the hots for him. Ok???

http://www.celebritysizes.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Andrew-Lincoln.jpg

I prefer my Andrew clean shaven....heh.

[revelarts]

:) I'm having a blast. So now that the thread has settled down to Kirk, Picard, and Kirk'. I'll have to go with Kirk' but each version has its own advantages. TOS was awful, TNG got better and better, and Abrams is just fun.

...ignorant philistine...
TOS was the best.
IT'S THEATER MAN!!!!
why don't people get that??!!:bang3:
:angryman:

TOS had the BEST characters, Best character interplay, and the BEST stories.
STNG basically Ripped off 3/4 of the TOS storylines and didn't add a thing. and got confused and PC with it's social commentary.
(the wore example is where Riker and others just KILLED their secretly made clones without a word, regret or concern about human life.)

TOS had a near perfect mix of SCi-FI concepts, Cultural social commentary and Pop Culture draw. all on a simple stage. A STAGE.... With COSTUMES.... and MASK... LIKE THEATER MAN!!!


TOS was rich with the above in subtle ways.
for example the episode Spock's Brain Where a woman steals Spocks brain and takes it to her planet and uses it as her world's central super computer.

the mix of
LAYERED sci-fi concepts= advanced medicine + brain removal + brain body connection + Brain as computer processor +
Layered social commentary = 1 Female takes over whole ship of men/women without a struggle + Advanced society creates hothouse culture where future generations mental capacity atrophies + Culture where male females are culturally separate and the women are dominant and more technically advanced.

Set as a mystery and search story includes and 1 of the best 1 line descriptions of what men think of women,
"...bringers of pain and delight..."

TOS, accept no substitute folks

[Gunny]

Not to be a wet rag on this, but I never grasped to idea of a 4-Striper of always
being the one to lead the charge, unless it involved a ship-to-ship confrontation.

What's a 4-striper? Stay on target. These were volunteers disobeying orders. You let the guy that can lead the charge lead the charge.

[Gunny]

Not to be a wet rag on this, but I never grasped to idea of a 4-Striper of always
being the one to lead the charge, unless it involved a ship-to-ship confrontation.

What's a 4-striper? Stay on target. These were volunteers disobeying orders. You let the guy that lead the charge lead the charge.

My 1st General Order: "Take charge of this post and all Government property within view". A US Embassy is US Government property. I'm taking f-ing charge.

And if YOU want to argue with a Sergeant Major About coming along? You got 2 Mikes then we are ditti mau.

[Abbey Marie]

I'm probably still the only one who liked DS9.

[revelarts]

He hit that Klingon so hard the eventually evolved an exoskeleton forehead.
http://orig03.deviantart.net/6989/f/2013/323/b/7/worf_during_the_tos_era_by_nocturnalmarauder-d6uw71b.jpg

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[revelarts]

I'm probably still the only one who liked DS9.

DS9 was pretty good. some episodes were great.
I always thought it had far more potential than it ever delivered.

[hjmick]

I'm probably still the only one who liked DS9.


I know how you feel, I liked Enterprise. Well, at least until the end of the series run, then it just got kind of stupid...

[Gunny]

I know how you feel, I liked Enterprise. Well, at least until the end of the series run, then it just got kind of stupid...

What does TOS mean? I'm not a Trekkie. Unfamiliar with the terms some of you are using.

[hjmick]

What does TOS mean? I'm not a Trekkie. Unfamiliar with the terms some of you are using.

TOS = The original series

TNG = The next generation

[Black Diamond]

What does TOS mean? I'm not a Trekkie. Unfamiliar with the terms some of you are using.

The original series. Took me forever to figure it out on trek boards too

[namvet]

http://i65.tinypic.com/n1aqvm.jpg

[Elessar]

What's a 4-striper? Stay on target. These were volunteers disobeying orders. You let the guy that lead the charge lead the charge.

My 1st General Order: "Take charge of this post and all Government property within view". A US Embassy is US Government property. I'm taking f-ing charge.

And if YOU want to argue with a Sergeant Major About coming along? You got 2 Mikes then we are ditti mau.

Colonel in the Corps, Army or Air Force. Captain in the CG or Navy.

I am on target. Just unlikely one of the above would be so involved in personal duels;
but after all, it is Hollyweird.:laugh:

[Black Diamond]

http://i65.tinypic.com/n1aqvm.jpg

Interestingly his son was born when he was 80

[jimnyc]

Piece of cake - Admiral Ackbar every time!! :dance:

[namvet]

Interestingly his son was born when he was 80

married three times and had seven children,. a WW2 vet he went ashore on D-Day. he was hit by six rounds fired from a Bren Gun by a nervous Canadian sentry. four in his leg, one in the chest, and one through his right middle finger. The bullet to his chest was stopped by a silver cigarette case given to him by his brother. His right middle finger had to be amputated, something he would conceal during his career as an actor.

[gabosaurus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVpUZYTt-rQ

[fj1200]

My favorite movie was The Wrath of Khan. I remembered the original Khan from the 60s. Ricardo Montalban.

I believe the theory is only the even numbered ones are any good.


...ignorant philistine...
TOS was the best.
IT'S THEATER MAN!!!!
why don't people get that??!!:bang3:
:angryman:



It's virtually unwatchable.

:scared:

[revelarts]

...



It's virtually unwatchable.

:scared:
"Can't neg rep this poster anymore"
:slap:
SaveSave

[fj1200]

"Can't neg rep this poster anymore"
:slap:
SaveSave


:laugh: Believe me I've tried to watch. But seeing as how they're on a starship there should be shots of the actual starship. :poke:

[jimnyc]

"Can't neg rep this poster anymore"
:slap:
SaveSave


You looked like you really wanted to take some points but were afraid to ask. Instead of neg repping him, I just took away like 10 million points or something like that. Hooked you up!! :)

[revelarts]

:laugh: Believe me I've tried to watch. But seeing as how they're on a starship there should be shots of the actual starship. :poke:
neg reps on you too jim


You looked like you really wanted to take some points but were afraid to ask. Instead of neg repping him, I just took away like 10 million points or something like that. Hooked you up!! :)
finally some righteous mod action around here.
thought this board had gone completely to crap in hand basket for a while there.

But pissing on TOS just goes too FAR and deserves a permanent ban, however i know you're merciful, so yeah -10 million points sounds bout right.
:clap::clap::clap:

https://media0.giphy.com/media/uqzJiRb6Oo48w/200.gif


seems Kirk aproves

[jimnyc]

^^ I don't know about permanent, but are you saying FJ deserves some sort of ban for his awful behavior?

[revelarts]

^^ I don't know about permanent, but are you saying FJ deserves some sort of ban for his awful behavior?

Ban, Public Flogging , Keel Hauling, Half Rations, beam some Tribbles to his house yes. :beer:
punishment should fit the offense, so absolutely.

[Elessar]

^^ I don't know about permanent, but are you saying FJ deserves some sort of ban for his awful behavior?

Naaaah...his one line hit and run tactics are rather amusing'

[revelarts]

http://www.debatepolicy.com/images/debate_policy/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by fj1200http://www.debatepolicy.com/images/debate_policy/buttons/viewpost-right.png
(http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?p=823670#post823670)http://www.debatepolicy.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif Believe me I've tried to watch. But seeing as how they're on a starship there should be shots of the actual starship. http://www.debatepolicy.com/images/smilies/poke.gif
http://www.debatepolicy.com/images/debate_policy/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by jimnychttp://www.debatepolicy.com/images/debate_policy/buttons/viewpost-right.png
(http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?p=823680#post823680)^^ I don't know about permanent, but are you saying FJ deserves some sort of ban for his awful behavior?
Ban, Public Flogging , Keel Hauling, Half Rations, beam some Tribbles to his house yes. :beer:
punishment should fit the offense, so absolutely.

http://www.debatepolicy.com/dbtech/thanks/images/thanks.png Drummond (http://www.debatepolicy.com/member.php?u=2287) thanked this post

LOL!
Everyone knows i'm kidding right we're talking about tv show here

[fj1200]

Naaaah...his one line hit and run tactics are rather amusing'

They are generally known in the biz as questions. :)


LOL!
Everyone knows i'm kidding right we're talking about tv show here


Everyone's gone plum crazy. :eek:

[Black Diamond]

What?? You prefer peckerhead Piccard? You're gone. :cool:

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

NOBODY SINCE HAS COME CLOSE TO BEATING THE ORIGINAL STAR TREK...

AND THEY DID IT WITHOUT THE CURRENT LEVEL OF MAGIC, *SPECIAL EFFECTS*--ENJOYED BY THOSE THAT FOLLOWED..

PICKARD WAS OK BUT HE ALWAYS LACKED THAT RAW POWER IN HIS MANLINESS -ESPECIALLY FOR WE MUCH OLDER VIEWERS THAT WATCHED KIRK

That and Pickard was a bit too pansy -ass for my tastes.

Don't get me started on Jane... her being in charge of that power and her PCness was a damn complete turn off for me.
I only watched her a few times to establish the correctness of that judgment.
I HAD TO LAUGH WEN THY TRIED TO MAKE HER LOOK TOUGH..
AS IN OTHER EPISODES THEY PLAYED UP HER IMMENSE COMPASSION AND GREAT DESIRE FOR APPEASEMENT FIRST AND FOREMOST..-TYR

[revelarts]

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/ee/74/63/ee74639ee1f8a613d038ffbdc9906a0a.jpg

https://www.buzzfeed.com/leonoraepstein/spocks-advice-to-a-teenage-girl-will-make-you-cry?sub=2080618_973299&utm_term=.qkWY1XVDa#.av5ng4AXk

[revelarts]

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/f1/ca/61/f1ca615f0d90556172bd8785fe8b868d.jpg

[sundaydriver]

The real bad ass commander that saved Kirk & crew, the Federation, and even the Klingons was Lucille Ball. When the top Executives went to Lucy and wanted to drop the show due to production high costs, Lucy said; No, I like the show, and the rest is history as written in the Star Log.

[Gunny]

NOBODY SINCE HAS COME CLOSE TO BEATING THE ORIGINAL STAR TREK...

AND THEY DID IT WITHOUT THE CURRENT LEVEL OF MAGIC, *SPECIAL EFFECTS*--ENJOYED BY THOSE THAT FOLLOWED..

PICKARD WAS OK BUT HE ALWAYS LACKED THAT RAW POWER IN HIS MANLINESS -ESPECIALLY FOR WE MUCH OLDER VIEWERS THAT WATCHED KIRK

That and Pickard was a bit too pansy -ass for my tastes.

Don't get me started on Jane... her being in charge of that power and her PCness was a damn complete turn off for me.
I only watched her a few times to establish the correctness of that judgment.
I HAD TO LAUGH WEN THY TRIED TO MAKE HER LOOK TOUGH..
AS IN OTHER EPISODES THEY PLAYED UP HER IMMENSE COMPASSION AND GREAT DESIRE FOR APPEASEMENT FIRST AND FOREMOST..-TYR

I watched that one about twice I think. DS9 Was another I never got into. It took me forever to figure out Avery Brooks played Hawk on Spenser For Hire.

I loved Enterprise. Which is surprising since I don't like Scott Backula. But watching them screw up at every step was just so Marine Corps. :laugh:

Captain Kirk was the bomb. Want to negotiate? How's this foot up your ass for a negotiation? :laugh2:

TV has become too PC. I liked those old shows. Still do. But the campy ones from the 60s are cool. Lost in Space is the hokiest show ever. My favorites were Combat and Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea. I (hate to admit this) even had the model of the Seaview.

Those 3-4 channels were still better than the 6 million channels of nothing I have now.

[fj1200]

Those 3-4 channels were still better than the 6 million channels of nothing I have now.

Have I got the channels for you. TV made for dinosaurs. :laugh:

www.metv.com

www.myretrotv.com

[Gunny]

Have I got the channels for you. TV made for dinosaurs. :laugh:

www.metv.com

www.myretrotv.com


I just watch old shows on the net. My TV usually has some forensic crap on it. I haven't watched network TV in 30 years.

[Black Diamond]

I just watch old shows on the net. My TV usually has some forensic crap on it. I haven't watched network TV in 30 years.
you're not missing anything.

[Abbey Marie]

You can't beat the Love Boat for campy. And every old unemployed B star showed up for an episode or 10, lol.

[Gunny]

You can't beat the Love Boat for campy. And every old unemployed B star showed up for an episode or 10, lol.

You can't beat the Love Boat for being bored to tears and still saving for a car to escape in. For those of us old enough to remember, the lefties had this crusade against violence on TV in the mid 70s. We got Little House on the Prairie, Father Murphy, the Love Boat ... and I worked nights so it didn't matter a whole to me anyway.

I remember the first time I saw SNL. I was high as a kite and I'm channel flipping and this commercial comes on (a spoof) and I'm just sitting there with my jaw on the floor. I'm like WTF? It took me awhile to figure out it was a spoof.

That whole against violence thing the lefties dreamed up ruined it for me. I liked Starsky and Hutch but even they got PC. And I was overseas when cable became mainstream in the 80s. When I got back I was like WTF? I think I watched MTV for 2 days straight. In the 80s, Tour of Duty, Miami Vice and TNG were what I'd watch. I had toddlers. PBS and Disney movies.

I'm still with Captain Kirk. Load the photon torpedoes, Scotty. We're going to kick some ass.