George Will quits GOP

[gabosaurus]

Right-wing website PJ Media is reporting that long time conservative pundit George Will has disassociated himself with Republicans in disgust over recent events.

https://pjmedia.com/election/2016/06/24/this-is-not-my-party-george-will-goes-from-gop-to-unaffiliated/

[Elessar]

Right-wing website PJ Media is reporting that long time conservative pundit George Will has disassociated himself with Republicans in disgust over recent events.

https://pjmedia.com/election/2016/06/24/this-is-not-my-party-george-will-goes-from-gop-to-unaffiliated/

Well...I do not read or listen to any pundits on either side, so it is a small loss to me.

Liberals, (Only a capital L to begin a sentence) instead suck up on all the liberal pundits, exaggerators,
and misinformed "journalists" they can dig up from the MSM....and swear by them. They are only
a flock led by starry-eyed socialists who insist on a Utopia completely disjointed from reality.

[Gunny]

Well...I do not read or listen to any pundits on either side, so it is a small loss to me.

Liberals, (Only a capital L to begin a sentence) instead suck up on all the liberal pundits, exaggerators,
and misinformed "journalists" they can dig up from the MSM....and swear by them. They are only
a flock led by starry-eyed socialists who insist on a Utopia completely disjointed from reality.

George Will is one of the usual suspects on Fox. I don't watch any of them because they're all posturing. Like Gabby. They left will deflect at every chance. Who cares about George Will? The present Fox News as the voice of the right. Hogwash.

What annoys me is I can't get any REAL news on any of these channels. All I get is some OpEds. When I want an opinion, I log in. When I want news, I want the news. All I get is pundits.

Fox News is one of the most BS outfits out there. CNN as well. NBC is on Mars. The Huntley-Brinkley Report on black and white was more informative,

[Bilgerat]

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[namvet]

and eat shit and die

[stephanie]

Good riddance. don't worry the Democrat party will take you in at least while they can USE you (example of use: look at the thread and who started it) during this stupid of yours. and then you'll be like Cindy Sheehan, who actually believed that party cared about her and her son. You'll be Kicked to the curb without a second thought.

[Gunny]

Good riddance. don't worry the Democrat party will take you in at least while they can USE you (example of use: look at the thread and who started it) during this stupid of yours. and then you'll be like Cindy Sheehan, who actually believed that party cared about her and her son. You'll be Kicked to the curb without a second thought.

I honestly don't know who he is except for being on Fox. I think he's a columnist. Fox has basically the same pundits on every show. I doubt Krauthammer has missed a one. I got tired of listening to the same old pundits on each and every show. I don't like any of Fox's hosts. The women are the worst. Being a lawyer does NOT qualify you as a journalist.

Greta's the worst or maybe in a tie with Megyn Kelly. They ask the dumbest questions. Hannity almost makes me ill. That dude will beat something not just to death but into jelly. OReilly is a self-righteous pompous clown. They all talk over there guests. I wouldn't want to be on any of their shows. They used to not do that and was the reason I quit watching CNN and started watching Fox to begin with. Now everyone does it. Even the sports channels. I can't listen to 4 people talking at the same time and y'all are NOT making yourselves look any kind of cool.

[Elessar]

I can't listen to 4 people talking at the same time and y'all are NOT making yourselves look any kind of cool.

I get tired of listening to people rudely interrupting each other as well. In some ways
it is like children fighting over Pokemon cards on the playground.:laugh:

[aboutime]

Right-wing website PJ Media is reporting that long time conservative pundit George Will has disassociated himself with Republicans in disgust over recent events.

https://pjmedia.com/election/2016/06/24/this-is-not-my-party-george-will-goes-from-gop-to-unaffiliated/


Who cares? When was Will elected, or appointed to any political office where his opinions make any real difference???

[Elessar]

I did, however, like watching Bill Hemmer and Martha MacCallum early morning on FOX, They
reported news and not just views and were polite to people they interviewed.

Another one was 'The Five'....both sides of the fence there, but I could watch Andrea Tantaros
all day. She is a Doll and pretty smart to boot.

[Black Diamond]

I did, however, like watching Bill Hemmer and Martha MacCallum early morning on FOX, They
reported news and not just views and were polite to people they interviewed.

Another one was 'The Five'....both sides of the fence there, but I could watch Andrea Tantaros
all day. She is a Doll and pretty smart to boot.
What kind of ratings Did they get ?

[Elessar]

What kind of ratings Did they get ?

Hell....I don't know! I never pay attention to ratings anyway!

[Black Diamond]

Hell....I don't know! I never pay attention to ratings anyway!

Only point is the ruder the show the higher the ratings it seems.

[revelarts]

I've always liked George Will.
George will is a reasonable thoughtful Republican.
He's NOT course, abrasive and blindly partisan like Ann Colture, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Riley often are.
And he's not some full-tilt Neo-Con like Krauthammer or William Kristol.

I really appreciate that he's stood to his principals here.
Trump is not the type of person that speaks well for those whose conservative principals really are about ALL americans, the constitution, small efficient gov't, capitalism with a small C, Pro-Life, Pro-Traditional family and a limited role of the military overseas.

On each of those principals Trump is Sketchy at best.
And seems to draw his support mainly from poorly framing complex problems into us vs "the other". Ginning up some of the worse American sentiments and baseless fears. While conning supporters into ignoring other issues that he doesn't agree with them on.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkIaA9TsNiU

[fj1200]

Another conservative trump doesn't need I guess.

[fj1200]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkIaA9TsNiU


Will responded on "Fox News Sunday," saying: "He has an advantage on me, because he can say everything he knows about any subject in 140 characters and I can't."

:laugh:

[revelarts]

Another conservative trump doesn't need I guess.

I guess Trump Doesn't need Conservatives,
he's going to get "moderates" and people from the left to support him then ..right?
and those former non-voters are going to register in droves too right?

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

I guess Trump Doesn't need Conservatives,
he's going to get "moderates" and people from the left to support him then ..right?
and those former non-voters are going to register in droves too right?

Just who tha hell told you that he was a true conservative?
Best look at his history, plenty of damn Rino's on our side hoss.
I know, the stock reply is who are you to cite what a real conservative is??
As a true conservative I know when some son of a bitch is not..-OK?
And that bastard never was-- did you ever see me cite anything the lying piece shit ever said??
No you have not and there (in his recent action) is the reason why.
IF WE WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF A CIVIL WAR THE BASTARD WOULD BE SHOT FOR WHAT HE JUST DID..
Showed his true colors--give them the right circumstance and they always do!!
I'd knock that son of a bitch out if he ever stepped onto my property.
He has shown exactly what he always was.. And he did so trying to bring others in the fold to defeat Trump.
Now-- Take damn guess who that helps!
Thats right--it helps Hillary--bastard true colors shown..-Tyr

[Kathianne]

George Will is a conservative, if one means limited government and more freedoms for the individual. Always has and likely always will. You don't have to agree with his conservatism, it's obvious he doesn't see Trump as conservative. I think there will always be differences in definitions.

[Elessar]

What kind of ratings Did they get ?

Hell...I don't know! I don't give a hoot about ratings to be honest.

[Black Diamond]

Hell...I don't know! I don't give a hoot about ratings to be honest.
Me neither. But networks do and that is why we have "shock jocks" if you will.

[fj1200]

Just who tha hell told you that he was a true conservative?
Best look at his history, plenty of damn Rino's on our side hoss.
I know, the stock reply is who are you to cite what a real conservative is??
As a true conservative I know when some son of a bitch is not..-OK?
And that bastard never was-- did you ever see me cite anything the lying piece shit ever said??
No you have not and there (in his recent action) is the reason why.
IF WE WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF A CIVIL WAR THE BASTARD WOULD BE SHOT FOR WHAT HE JUST DID..
Showed his true colors--give them the right circumstance and they always do!!
I'd knock that son of a bitch out if he ever stepped onto my property.
He has shown exactly what he always was.. And he did so trying to bring others in the fold to defeat Trump.
Now-- Take damn guess who that helps!
Thats right--it helps Hillary--bastard true colors shown..-Tyr

:facepalm99:

[revelarts]

Will and others say Trump's changed the party, even made it into a 3rd party almost. The thing is
he has not made it more conservative, but less.
He hasn't made it more libertarian, but less.
He hasn't made it more constitutional, but less
He hasn't made it more socially conservative, but less.
He hasn't made it more inclusive, but less.
In fact he's lead it all by making it less inclusive.

the other thing he's lead with (besides low insults) is claiming he's not establishment. But most of his proposals are just as RINO as the establishment's have been for the past 20 years. He just says he's "anti-establishment" because he's not accountable to the Banks/BigBiz like the other candidates.
But many rank and file conservatives don't even ADMIT that crony capitalism is a problem. But Some republicans/conservatives have practically told me that Business and BIG Business and the Banks have done no wrong. So i'm not sure why "anti-establishment" is a virtue on that front now. 4 years ago i thought Rs were saying that "anti-establishment" meant MORE/REAL conservative candidates and not RINO or Neo-Con.

But it just looks like it really means someone who'll "build a wall" , ban muslims and not "talk PC".
Any other conservative ideas are negotiable.

[Elessar]

Trump has not made anything yet. He is not in control or a position of control at the present time.
He'd have to be seated to do that.

[aboutime]

Will and others say Trump's changed the party, even made it into a 3rd party almost. The thing is
he has not made it more conservative, but less.
He hasn't made it more libertarian, but less.
He hasn't made it more constitutional, but less
He hasn't made it more socially conservative, but less.
He hasn't made it more inclusive, but less.
In fact he's lead it all by making it less inclusive.

the other thing he's lead with (besides low insults) is claiming he's not establishment. But most of his proposals are just as RINO as the establishment's have been for the past 20 years. He just says he's "anti-establishment" because he's not accountable to the Banks/BigBiz like the other candidates.
But many rank and file conservatives don't even ADMIT that crony capitalism is a problem. But Some republicans/conservatives have practically told me that Business and BIG Business and the Banks have done no wrong. So i'm not sure why "anti-establishment" is a virtue on that front now. 4 years ago i thought Rs were saying that "anti-establishment" meant MORE/REAL conservative candidates and not RINO or Neo-Con.

But it just looks like it really means someone who'll "build a wall" , ban muslims and not "talk PC".
Any other conservative ideas are negotiable.




Logical, slightly intelligent people know....Trump hasn't done anything. Think about it. The people.... millions of them, voted for Trump. Are they all as wrong as you say He is???

[fj1200]

Trump has not made anything yet. He is not in control or a position of control at the present time.
He'd have to be seated to do that.

Of course he has. He's now the presumptive nominee.

[aboutime]

Of course he has. He's now the presumptive nominee.



fj. How is that possible? Reminding me of the way everybody blamed Bush for 911. Trump hasn't any control over being the nominee. The people who voted for him in the primaries did the work.

Anyhow. The word 'Presumptive' is much like using 'Assume'. And most of us know what that really means.