Signature Guidelines

[jimnyc]

To make the threads easier for all of our members to read, we are implementing a few guidelines on members use of signatures.


There should be no more than 5 lines used in any signature, and this includes spaces.

Default font size only.

Any images should be no larger than the size of an avatar, which is 200x200.

There will be no advertising of any kind, unless permission has been granted by staff.

No flaming of other members via signatures.

No crude language, or any inappropriate content.

We will be giving members approximately 1 week to modify their signatures to comply with these guidelines. After that, staff reserves the right to modify members signatures to be in compliance.

If you have any questions or concerns, please shoot me or another staff member a PM.

Thanks!

[shattered]

To make the threads easier for all of our members to read, we are implementing a few guidelines on members use of signatures.



We will be giving members approximately 1 week to modify their signatures to comply with these guidelines. After that, staff reserves the right to modify members signatures to be in compliance.

If you have any questions or concerns, please shoot me or another staff member a PM.

Thanks!

Uh.. Define "inappropriate content", please? I'm rather attached to my signature. :D

[Mr. P]

I'd like to see member input on this. I have no problem reading posts regardless of what the signature is, there's this cool wide line that separates them. How can you make it easier than that? Who is the whiner?:poke:

[jimnyc]

Uh.. Define "inappropriate content", please? I'm rather attached to my signature. :D

Fair question!

Your signature is fine. I would consider inappropriate to include "foul" language". Everyone will have varying degrees of "foul" but I do not consider asshat or shit to be foul. The 4 letter words such as the "F" word or "C" word come to mind. I don't think potential members will be offended by the words you use, and if they are, they probably won't like it here anyway. Then there are words that would make some blush! Those would be inappropriate. If unsure, ask a staff member before using.

Nudity would be inappropriate as well.

Of course a term like "inappropriate" will be subjective. And of course we will have members claim "bias" in our enforcement. I'm not worried about that though as political statements and/or quotes will not be censored. In other words, feel free to bash political figures if you so choose, just please do so in a mature manner, if that's possible. :)

[jimnyc]

I'd like to see member input on this. I have no problem reading posts regardless of what the signature is, there's this cool wide line that separates them. How can you make it easier than that? Who is the whiner?:poke:

I have no problem with member input on this. But keep in mind, this wasn't just a decision on the spur of a moment. I've received various complaints from quite a few members.

It isn't necessarily the content of signatures that brought this forth, but rather the sizes and how it makes harder for members to read threads when signatures take up more page space than actual content discussion.

As usual, I'm open to suggestions and feedback, and I'll be happy to adjust the guidelines should valid points be brought forth.

[Hagbard Celine]

I'm just posting to see how many lines my sig is. I think it's already in compliance.

[Hagbard Celine]

Gay, it's six.

[jimnyc]

Gay, it's six.

Rather than delete anything, just add 2 of yours to one line!

[CockySOB]

If someone doesn't want to see the signatures, they could always change their setting in the User CP

User CP -> Edit Options -> Thread Display Options -> Show signatures

Just check to the box to see the signatures, and uncheck it to hide signatures.

As to content, whatever Jim says is fine by me. Just as long as my Thomas Sowell quotes can keep rockin'!

[Mr. P]

I am sure I can adjust mine if I must, I just don't want teenie weenie wings.
I have no idea how close to the limit they are now or how to fix em.

I'll go on record that I have no problem with the size of any sig line on the board.

[jimnyc]

If someone doesn't want to see the signatures, they could always change their setting in the User CP

User CP -> Edit Options -> Thread Display Options -> Show signatures

Just check to the box to see the signatures, and uncheck it to hide signatures.

As to content, whatever Jim says is fine by me. Just as long as my Thomas Sowell quotes can keep rockin'!

Your signature is 8 lines long. LOL :)

[jimnyc]

I am sure I can adjust mine if I must, I just don't want teenie weenie wings.
I have no idea how close to the limit they are now or how to fix em.

I'll go on record that I have no problem with the size of any sig line on the board.

Your image is below the 200x200 limitation.

[jimnyc]

Your image is below the 200x200 limitation.

But also 11 lines long... :)

[CockySOB]

Your signature is 8 lines long. LOL :)

Not no more! Nyah!

[jimnyc]

Not no more! Nyah!

Excellent! Thank you!

FWIW - although I stated "default font" to keep members from using over sized lettering, smaller font is allowed, and will then allow for additional space.

[Mr. P]

If someone doesn't want to see the signatures, they could always change their setting in the User CP

User CP -> Edit Options -> Thread Display Options -> Show signatures

Just check to the box to see the signatures, and uncheck it to hide signatures.

As to content, whatever Jim says is fine by me. Just as long as my Thomas Sowell quotes can keep rockin'!

Excellent point, Cocky!

[jimnyc]

Excellent point, Cocky!

True, true, very good advice! The only problem with that is that it would be sitewide. What if it's only a few signatures that are cluttering threads? I'm not sure there's a way to limit a specific users sigs from appearing, it's an all or nothing proposition.

[Mr. P]

True, true, very good advice! The only problem with that is that it would be sitewide. What if it's only a few signatures that are cluttering threads? I'm not sure there's a way to limit a specific users sigs from appearing, it's an all or nothing proposition.

Sure it's all or nothing, but it's an option available to ALL, so leave it up to the individual that may have a problem to make the choice, instead of imposing the wishes of few on the entire board.

[darin]

Sure it's all or nothing, but it's an option available to ALL, so leave it up to the individual that may have a problem to make the choice, instead of imposing the wishes of few on the entire board.

Dude - 5 lines is plenty - you could fit everything you have right now in 5 lines.

[jimnyc]

Sure it's all or nothing, but it's an option available to ALL, so leave it up to the individual that may have a problem to make the choice, instead of imposing the wishes of few on the entire board.

But what if a few members have issues with say, 10 particular signatures. They should have to block everyone's as a result?

Let me ask a serious question. Do you not think that large and long signatures can "clutter" up a thread and make it more difficult to read?

What if a member wanted 40 lines in his/her signature? Where do we draw the line? I think there has to be some sort of guidelines in effect.

[darin]

Dude - 5 lines is plenty - you could fit everything you have right now in 5 lines.

Something like this. Get creative!

[shattered]

Why not just make the wings your avatar?

[shattered]

...and while we're at it, something has GOT to be done about D's avatar...

[jimnyc]

...and while we're at it, something has GOT to be done about D's avatar...

Now THAT I fully agree with. It's downright scary! LOL

[Mr. P]

But what if a few members have issues with say, 10 particular signatures. They should have to block everyone's as a result?

Let me ask a serious question. Do you not think that large and long signatures can "clutter" up a thread and make it more difficult to read?

What if a member wanted 40 lines in his/her signature? Where do we draw the line? I think there has to be some sort of guidelines in effect.
Yes if a few members have a problem they should deal with it. What if I had a problem with posts being more than 50 words long? If there was a limit on text it would make forums much easier to read.

No, like I said I've have no problem reading threads..If you can scroll and see the line that starts a sig then the line that starts a new post this shouldn't be an issue, IMO.

We have someone with 40 lines? This is a trivial issue IMO, but the squeaky wheel gets the grease. I'll comply I just think it's silly.

[LiberalNation]

Is my sig okay? It's smaller than Mr.Ps but still big. I'll change the fault size I guess but then it wont be so noticable and board cluttery.

[Hagbard Celine]

Now THAT I fully agree with. It's downright scary! LOL

Yeah, I'm starting to think that's what he really looks like.

[darin]

Yes if a few members have a problem they should deal with it. What if I had a problem with posts being more than 50 words long? If there was a limit on text it would make forums much easier to read.

No, like I said I've have no problem reading threads..If you can scroll and see the line that starts a sig then the line that starts a new post this shouldn't be an issue, IMO.

We have someone with 40 lines? This is a trivial issue IMO, but the squeaky wheel gets the grease. I'll comply I just think it's silly.

You're nit-picking, P. Maybe the answer to it is this: Do NOT allow signatures after somebody's FIRST reply in a thread? See how I re-sized yours to fit most of what you have in your sig, in mine? Want the code for my sig?

[CockySOB]

True, true, very good advice! The only problem with that is that it would be sitewide. What if it's only a few signatures that are cluttering threads? I'm not sure there's a way to limit a specific users sigs from appearing, it's an all or nothing proposition.

Might be able to tweak the code for Ignoring a user to make it handle their signature.

Cut, modify, paste.... a few hours coding to tweak and test I'd think.

[jimnyc]

Is my sig okay? It's smaller than Mr.Ps but still big. I'll change the fault size I guess but then it wont be so noticable and board cluttery.

Change it to default font... then choose color that stands out if you wish.

[jimnyc]

Yes if a few members have a problem they should deal with it. What if I had a problem with posts being more than 50 words long? If there was a limit on text it would make forums much easier to read.

No, like I said I've have no problem reading threads..If you can scroll and see the line that starts a sig then the line that starts a new post this shouldn't be an issue, IMO.

We have someone with 40 lines? This is a trivial issue IMO, but the squeaky wheel gets the grease. I'll comply I just think it's silly.

But the text and posts are what the members come here to read. Limiting them would defeat the purpose of having a message board to begin with.

I don't think it's hard to distinguish between a signature and a post, but when it becomes NECESSARY to distinguish, then maybe the sigs are getting a little large.

Just as an Fyi - I've received no complaints about your signature. Staff discussed guidelines and we came to an agreement on what we thought would be sufficient for members.

[LiberalNation]

This okay yet.

[jimnyc]

Might be able to tweak the code for Ignoring a user to make it handle their signature.

Cut, modify, paste.... a few hours coding to tweak and test I'd think.

I'll post at a few forums I belong to where the VB God's hang out at and see what others have done in similar situations.

[LiberalNation]

Nope. Crap. I like big letters.

[jimnyc]

This okay yet.

I don't have an issue with the way it appears. HUGE lettering, LARGE pictures and EXTREMELY long signatures is what spurred this.

[LiberalNation]

Okay I think I fixed it to bot our satisfactions. All I need to do now is bold the red quote.

[jimnyc]

Okay I think I fixed it to bot our satisfactions. All I need to do now is bold the red quote.

Let me know when you're done, and if you aren't happy, let me take a stab at helping you.

[nevadamedic]

I am sure I can adjust mine if I must, I just don't want teenie weenie wings.
I have no idea how close to the limit they are now or how to fix em.

I'll go on record that I have no problem with the size of any sig line on the board.

I think you have the best signature and I hope you don't have to change it!

[Abbey Marie]

Yeah, I'm starting to think that's what he really looks like.

Me too! Scary....

[Monkeybone]

I like D's avatar. i think that is the face alotta ppl make when they are posting.

[darin]

The details of my looks are quite inconsequential. I'm a cross between Quasimodo and the Elephant Man - but only the GOOD parts.

[Hagbard Celine]

The details of my looks are quite inconsequential. I'm a cross between Quasimodo and the Elephant Man - but only the GOOD parts.

I knew I had seen you somewhere before! :laugh:
http://www.peacheschrist.com/mmass/goons/sloth.jpg

[darin]

bay beeeeeeee rooooooooooth?

[Hagbard Celine]

bay beeeeeeee rooooooooooth?

Hay you guuuuuys!

[nevadamedic]

Me too! Scary....

You mean that's not his real picture?

[OCA]

You mean that's not his real picture?

Are you always this fucking stupid?:bang3:

[5stringJeff]

Hay you guuuuuys!

Sloth love Chunk!

[Dilloduck]

Are you always this fucking stupid?:bang3:

I'm beginning to understand the reason why kids have their own table in another room for Thanksgiving dinner.

[Yurt]

On what resolution are we talking about? Mr. P's sig is about only 7 lines in 1280X1024. And if you exclude the pic and treat it as an avi, then he only has a few lines.

Besides, I like the sig and like the affirmation that why the heck do we have to press 1 for english, hombre!

[darin]

On what resolution are we talking about? Mr. P's sig is about only 7 lines in 1280X1024. And if you exclude the pic and treat it as an avi, then he only has a few lines.

Besides, I like the sig and like the affirmation that why the heck do we have to press 1 for english, hombre!

But it's still two lines too many :)

[Mr. P]

But it's still two lines too many :)

But it's NEVER been an issue. :)

[nevadamedic]

But it's NEVER been an issue. :)

I like it as well...............:salute:

[jackass]

While were talking about it...I dont like DMP's avatar. Since I dont...and we all seem to be in the pc mood...Im gonna need you to change it. Thanks!



:laugh2:

[jimnyc]

Charles has spoken, now you have to change it, D!

Out of curiosity, who or what the hell is that scaring all of us in your avatar anyway?

[darin]

But it's NEVER been an issue. :)

But it violates the terms of the board - I showed you how to fit in that stuff and still make it comply. :) And at 1600x1200 it's about 12 or 13 lines long.

[82Marine89]

I think my sig says it all. :poke:

[Jon]

Would this sig be compliant?

[darin]

Would this sig be compliant?

If the pic worked - perhaps. Still, that frame looks to be larger than what 5-lines would be.

[LiberalNation]

But it violates the terms of the board - I showed you how to fit in that stuff and still make it comply. :) And at 1600x1200 it's about 12 or 13 lines long.
I don't think he's gona change it. Can I change mine back now, mines never been a prob either.

[Mr. P]

I don't think he's gona change it. Can I change mine back now, mines never been a prob either.

Bingo, he's not! I said I would but have changed my mind. If there are a few problem children deal with them, NOT the whole membership.

[Hagbard Celine]

Bingo, he's not! I said I would but have changed my mind. If there are a few problem children deal with them, NOT the whole membership.

You used the wrong form of "too" in your sig. It should be "too" lazy and "too" stupid, not "to" lazy and "to" stupid.

[Mr. P]

You used the wrong form of "too" in your sig. It should be "too" lazy and "too" stupid, not "to" lazy and "to" stupid.

Really? It was suppose to be an incomplete sentence..maybe more "...." would do er. Donno, don't care.

[Hagbard Celine]

Really? It was suppose to be an incomplete sentence..maybe more "...." would do er. Donno, don't care.

"To" stupid or not "to" stupid? That is the question.

[Mr. P]

"To" stupid or not "to" stupid? That is the question.

I see, I didn't even read it. Tells ya how much I care. :laugh2:

[Jon]

If the pic worked - perhaps. Still, that frame looks to be larger than what 5-lines would be.

Don't know how my attachment magically disappeared? Either way, is it short enough now?

[darin]

Don't know how my attachment magically disappeared? Either way, is it short enough now?

That's probably 8-10 lines, I'd guess :)

[Jon]

That's probably 8-10 lines, I'd guess :)

I doubt it. How about give me a pixel height that fits into the guideline. ;)

[darin]

I doubt it. How about give me a pixel height that fits into the guideline. ;)

Make it 'this' high:

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Try this - looks pretty darn close, IMO. I tell ya, though, as people start using the scrolling wheel down a thread, and if they start 'getting stuck' as they scroll down your sig, ppl will start bitchin. :)

<iframe src="http://www.flickr.com/photos/92431489@N00/" height="100" width="100%"></iframe>

[jimnyc]

My opinion, but I don't think having users load another entire web page is a good idea. It's bad for users on slower connections and can cause additional slowness if the other site doesn't respond properly.

[Pale Rider]

OK... mine should be good.

[nevadamedic]

You used the wrong form of "too" in your sig. It should be "too" lazy and "too" stupid, not "to" lazy and "to" stupid.

Who cares?

[nevadamedic]

My opinion, but I don't think having users load another entire web page is a good idea. It's bad for users on slower connections and can cause additional slowness if the other site doesn't respond properly.

What is Flickr?

[jimnyc]

What is Flickr?

Go to the site and find out! LOL

Don't use it myself, but I believe it's like a massive image hosting site.

[jimnyc]

Should anyone notice their signature has magically disappeared, it's because a member of staff has deemed it outside of our guidelines. If you take issue with this, please send me a PM.