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gabosaurus
05-02-2016, 11:20 PM
At least some knowledge of early 20th century European history would be helpful for understanding the premise of this thread.

If you go back to the early 1900's, Europe had two primary powers. Germany was allied with Austria-Hungary. Great Britain sided with Russia, Serbia and France. The resulting "Great War" left Germany defeated and destitute.
The German people were none too happy about this. They felt their leaders had ruined them with bad decisions. They wanted the old financially prosperous and militarily powerful Germany back.

Along comes this Austrian guy with the funny mustache. He promised to Make Germany Great Again.
Much like The Donald, Hitler was a powerful speaker who made a lot of promises. He promised revenge on all Germany's enemies. He promised an end to crippling reparation payments and a new prosperity. Want more money? Want jobs? Want more and better food? You've come to the right place!
Hitler felt that one of Germany's primary problems was that there were too many non-Aryans. Particularly Jews and Bolsheviks. His fiery rhetoric made everyone believe him.
Of course, Hitler had lots of opponents. He turned them into enemies. If they came to his rallies, he had them beaten up. You either supported Hitler or you kept your mouth shut.

Hitler's "Germany First" policy gained him a lot of believers. He wanted to unite all real Germans (the Aryan ones) into one homogeneous country that would bring back the greatness of the past. This struck a chord with a lot of people who were tired of being poor and oppressed and wanted someone to blame.

Of course, once the people put Hitler into power, he decided to go one step further and become a dictator. And because he had neutralized all his opponents, who was going to stop him?
Who would stop Trump? And where would he put the Muslim concentration camps?

darin
05-03-2016, 12:42 AM
Hitler - the most-famous Socialist ever. (shrug). Hitler also wore boots. And shoes. JUST LIKE TRUMP!! AND...AND Both HITLER and TRUMP consumed FOOD! OMG!!! Did you know, both HITLER and DONALD TRUMP enjoyed money? Yup. It's true!

logroller
05-03-2016, 03:36 AM
mmkay (http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/4594).

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/004/594/godwindef.jpg

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
05-03-2016, 04:57 AM
Just substitute the word Hitler with the word "ëvil". Now we sane people know evil exists and in every human its a natural element.
Trump is no more Hitler than I am. The real evil we've been living under for over 7 years now....
and its been destroying all the good in this nation that it can..-Tyr

CSM
05-03-2016, 06:44 AM
At least some knowledge of early 20th century European history would be helpful for understanding the premise of this thread.

If you go back to the early 1900's, Europe had two primary powers. Germany was allied with Austria-Hungary. Great Britain sided with Russia, Serbia and France. The resulting "Great War" left Germany defeated and destitute.
The German people were none too happy about this. They felt their leaders had ruined them with bad decisions. They wanted the old financially prosperous and militarily powerful Germany back.

Along comes this Austrian guy with the funny mustache. He promised to Make Germany Great Again.
Much like The Donald, Hitler was a powerful speaker who made a lot of promises. He promised revenge on all Germany's enemies. He promised an end to crippling reparation payments and a new prosperity. Want more money? Want jobs? Want more and better food? You've come to the right place!
Hitler felt that one of Germany's primary problems was that there were too many non-Aryans. Particularly Jews and Bolsheviks. His fiery rhetoric made everyone believe him.
Of course, Hitler had lots of opponents. He turned them into enemies. If they came to his rallies, he had them beaten up. You either supported Hitler or you kept your mouth shut.

Hitler's "Germany First" policy gained him a lot of believers. He wanted to unite all real Germans (the Aryan ones) into one homogeneous country that would bring back the greatness of the past. This struck a chord with a lot of people who were tired of being poor and oppressed and wanted someone to blame.

Of course, once the people put Hitler into power, he decided to go one step further and become a dictator. And because he had neutralized all his opponents, who was going to stop him?
Who would stop Trump? And where would he put the Muslim concentration camps?

Now this comical. If we read the post carefully, Gabby is implying that things have gotten SO bad under the Dems and Obama that the citizens of this country are willing to risk tyranny to get out from under the liberals. Gotta love it!

Drummond
05-03-2016, 08:18 AM
At least some knowledge of early 20th century European history would be helpful for understanding the premise of this thread.

If you go back to the early 1900's, Europe had two primary powers. Germany was allied with Austria-Hungary. Great Britain sided with Russia, Serbia and France. The resulting "Great War" left Germany defeated and destitute.
The German people were none too happy about this. They felt their leaders had ruined them with bad decisions. They wanted the old financially prosperous and militarily powerful Germany back.

Along comes this Austrian guy with the funny mustache. He promised to Make Germany Great Again.
Much like The Donald, Hitler was a powerful speaker who made a lot of promises. He promised revenge on all Germany's enemies. He promised an end to crippling reparation payments and a new prosperity. Want more money? Want jobs? Want more and better food? You've come to the right place!
Hitler felt that one of Germany's primary problems was that there were too many non-Aryans. Particularly Jews and Bolsheviks. His fiery rhetoric made everyone believe him.
Of course, Hitler had lots of opponents. He turned them into enemies. If they came to his rallies, he had them beaten up. You either supported Hitler or you kept your mouth shut.

Hitler's "Germany First" policy gained him a lot of believers. He wanted to unite all real Germans (the Aryan ones) into one homogeneous country that would bring back the greatness of the past. This struck a chord with a lot of people who were tired of being poor and oppressed and wanted someone to blame.

Of course, once the people put Hitler into power, he decided to go one step further and become a dictator. And because he had neutralized all his opponents, who was going to stop him?
Who would stop Trump? And where would he put the Muslim concentration camps?

Demonisation, much .. ?? :eek::laugh::laugh:

On a sliding scale of 1 to 10, measuring the extent of sheer desperation driving you ... does this score an 11 ? If Trump wasn't a serious contender for the Presidency, you'd not have considered posting this stuff .... :laugh:

Gunny
05-03-2016, 08:32 AM
At least some knowledge of early 20th century European history would be helpful for understanding the premise of this thread.

If you go back to the early 1900's, Europe had two primary powers. Germany was allied with Austria-Hungary. Great Britain sided with Russia, Serbia and France. The resulting "Great War" left Germany defeated and destitute.
The German people were none too happy about this. They felt their leaders had ruined them with bad decisions. They wanted the old financially prosperous and militarily powerful Germany back.

Along comes this Austrian guy with the funny mustache. He promised to Make Germany Great Again.
Much like The Donald, Hitler was a powerful speaker who made a lot of promises. He promised revenge on all Germany's enemies. He promised an end to crippling reparation payments and a new prosperity. Want more money? Want jobs? Want more and better food? You've come to the right place!
Hitler felt that one of Germany's primary problems was that there were too many non-Aryans. Particularly Jews and Bolsheviks. His fiery rhetoric made everyone believe him.
Of course, Hitler had lots of opponents. He turned them into enemies. If they came to his rallies, he had them beaten up. You either supported Hitler or you kept your mouth shut.

Hitler's "Germany First" policy gained him a lot of believers. He wanted to unite all real Germans (the Aryan ones) into one homogeneous country that would bring back the greatness of the past. This struck a chord with a lot of people who were tired of being poor and oppressed and wanted someone to blame.

Of course, once the people put Hitler into power, he decided to go one step further and become a dictator. And because he had neutralized all his opponents, who was going to stop him?
Who would stop Trump? And where would he put the Muslim concentration camps?

Trump is far less dangerous than Hitler was and far less dangerous than Hitlery. At least he isn't a criminal the Dem's are covering for. I like him less and less each day. We have a choice between if his lips are moving he's lying and if her lips are moving she's lying.

So you would be incorrect. I'd fear Hitlery FAR more than Mr It's All About Me. She's a disaster that's been waiting to happen since 04. She's trying to out-do Bill. Simple as that. At least Trump, right or wrong and his neanderthal message, believes in something. Hitlery believes in whatever she thinks you want to hear.

LongTermGuy
05-03-2016, 09:08 AM
At least some knowledge of early 20th century European history would be helpful for understanding the premise of this thread.

If you go back to the early 1900's, Europe had two primary powers. Germany was allied with Austria-Hungary. Great Britain sided with Russia, Serbia and France. The resulting "Great War" left Germany defeated and destitute.
The German people were none too happy about this. They felt their leaders had ruined them with bad decisions. They wanted the old financially prosperous and militarily powerful Germany back.

Along comes this Austrian guy with the funny mustache. He promised to Make Germany Great Again.
Much like The Donald, Hitler was a powerful speaker who made a lot of promises. He promised revenge on all Germany's enemies. He promised an end to crippling reparation payments and a new prosperity. Want more money? Want jobs? Want more and better food? You've come to the right place!
Hitler felt that one of Germany's primary problems was that there were too many non-Aryans. Particularly Jews and Bolsheviks. His fiery rhetoric made everyone believe him.
Of course, Hitler had lots of opponents. He turned them into enemies. If they came to his rallies, he had them beaten up. You either supported Hitler or you kept your mouth shut.

Hitler's "Germany First" policy gained him a lot of believers. He wanted to unite all real Germans (the Aryan ones) into one homogeneous country that would bring back the greatness of the past. This struck a chord with a lot of people who were tired of being poor and oppressed and wanted someone to blame.

Of course, once the people put Hitler into power, he decided to go one step further and become a dictator. And because he had neutralized all his opponents, who was going to stop him?
Who would stop Trump? And where would he put the Muslim concentration camps?

:rolleyes:
*Dedicated to Gaby...

https://s.yimg.com/lo/api/res/1.2/PEuqJOPH5x4ohpQZARZ3uA--/YXBwaWQ9eW15O3c9NjQwO3E9NzU7c209MTtpbD1wbGFuZQ--/http://67.media.tumblr.com/7d5cc48c0444af8db6f686330769d2dd/tumblr_inline_o6lnw6FqCN1tou6vb_1280.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hasKOQUArw8

LongTermGuy
05-03-2016, 09:29 AM
:rolleyes:
Gaby...I will say that historical fascists were so loathsome...that to compare them to current people that have not committed the same atrocities as the likes of Mussolini or Hitler...is a fruitless endeavor that seeks to lessen the condemnation any rational person would feel about those mass murderers.



.....You are less of a human.....and less valuable to all humans...when you compare anyone running for president today to the truly evil leaders of the past. ..

*You are an example of the failure of our educational system and of logic and reason ...and you should be shunned until you admit the error of your ways. I mean that in the most compassionate way possible. Fix yourself..so that others are not burdened with the task.

fj1200
05-03-2016, 09:38 AM
Now this comical. If we read the post carefully, Gabby is implying that things have gotten SO bad under the Dems and Obama that the citizens of this country are willing to risk tyranny to get out from under the liberals. Gotta love it!

I think the premise is that the country has gotten so bad that some voters are willing to risk a populist candidate who makes promises that they may or may not be able to deliver.

CSM
05-03-2016, 09:47 AM
I think the premise is that the country has gotten so bad that some voters are willing to risk a populist candidate who makes promises that they may or may not be able to deliver.

LOL.... that is exactly what EVERY politician running for office at any level does.... promises that which they may or may not be able to deliver!

fj1200
05-03-2016, 09:55 AM
LOL.... that is exactly what EVERY politician running for office at any level does.... promises that which they may or may not be able to deliver!

True, but the risk is in the populism IMO.

CSM
05-03-2016, 10:00 AM
True, but the risk is in the populism IMO.

Populism in and of itself is not necessarily a bad thing. Granted, it certainly can be a bad thing when the populace is full of idiots.

fj1200
05-03-2016, 10:08 AM
Populism in and of itself is not necessarily a bad thing. Granted, it certainly can be a bad thing when the populace is full of idiots.

I think it is a bad thing in and of itself but I agree it gets worse as the idiocy level goes up. :eek:

CSM
05-03-2016, 10:10 AM
I think it is a bad thing in and of itself but I agree it gets worse as the idiocy level goes up. :eek:

I then ask why you think populism is a bad thing?

fj1200
05-03-2016, 10:20 AM
I then ask why you think populism is a bad thing?

Because it does not have a core ideology upon which it is based. It's core is what appeals to the populace and not whether the it's right or wrong and can change as the mood of the people changes. Wrap a cult of personality around that and hang on.

CSM
05-03-2016, 10:29 AM
Because it does not have a core ideology upon which it is based. It's core is what appeals to the populace and not whether the it's right or wrong and can change as the mood of the people changes. Wrap a cult of personality around that and hang on.

Trying to understand. So is it your position that no populist movement can have merit?

fj1200
05-03-2016, 10:45 AM
Trying to understand. So is it your position that no populist movement can have merit?

Hmm, that's a good question. I guess that depends on the underlying positions that drive the movement. I think protectionism, minimum wage, anti-corporation, etc. for example are not positions that have merit and the movement would not have merit as being good for the country. I'm also starting to think that much of populism is based on having a scapegoat.

So I think my position is that no populist movement can have merit. That's not to say it may not be successful in winning an election or two.

CSM
05-03-2016, 11:01 AM
Hmm, that's a good question. I guess that depends on the underlying positions that drive the movement. I think protectionism, minimum wage, anti-corporation, etc. for example are not positions that have merit and the movement would not have merit as being good for the country. I'm also starting to think that much of populism is based on having a scapegoat.

So I think my position is that no populist movement can have merit. That's not to say it may not be successful in winning an election or two.

I guess it depends upon your definition of populism. Currently, populism has become a pejorative term usually used by politicians to denigrate their opponents and their stance on various issues. There are instance throughout history where a populist movement accomplished some good (American Revolution, French Revolution, Abolition, child labor laws in the US, etc.). At the heart of it, the definition of populism (population above status quo or the elite; pure democracy) is broad enough to include left, right and centrist agendas. It is my opinion that the problem with populist movements is that it tends to radically simplify issues (and politics) and thus the real solutions to those issues seldom result from the movement. As I said, it gets worse when the idiocy level rises (or conversely when issues become over-simplified).

Elessar
05-03-2016, 11:25 AM
At least some knowledge of early 20th century European history would be helpful for understanding the premise of this thread.

Of course, once the people put Hitler into power, he decided to go one step further and become a dictator. And because he had neutralized all his opponents, who was going to stop him?
Who would stop Trump? And where would he put the Muslim concentration camps?

This just indicates to me that:

1. Hard core Liberals insist on a socialist society, taking from
the earners and giving to the slackers;

2. Hard core Liberals are running scared - scared their little Empire
of freebies will be whittled away.

Hitler was an evil madman. That finally came to the surface when
it was far too late, though some free-thinkers saw it early on.

I do not like some of Trump's bombastic behavior. However, it would
appear he has awakened some long built-up disdain for the Status Quo
in many people.

Trigg
05-03-2016, 12:06 PM
Oh for fuck sake.....the dumbest thread title to date. :lame2:

jimnyc
05-03-2016, 01:17 PM
What a coinkydink, I've been told quite a few times that my style of running message boards is quite similar to that of Hitler. Donald Trump is from New York, where I'm at. That proves it then, we both definitely have Hitler blood running through us!! How could I have not seen this before? :slap:

fj1200
05-03-2016, 01:31 PM
I guess it depends upon your definition of populism. Currently, populism has become a pejorative term usually used by politicians to denigrate their opponents and their stance on various issues. There are instance throughout history where a populist movement accomplished some good (American Revolution, French Revolution, Abolition, child labor laws in the US, etc.). At the heart of it, the definition of populism (population above status quo or the elite; pure democracy) is broad enough to include left, right and centrist agendas. It is my opinion that the problem with populist movements is that it tends to radically simplify issues (and politics) and thus the real solutions to those issues seldom result from the movement. As I said, it gets worse when the idiocy level rises (or conversely when issues become over-simplified).

I freely admit that my definition of populism may not be the same as others and I'm not sure that I would categorize all of your examples as populist movements. Some movements are rooted in a core ideology of what is right against what is wrong such as the American and French Revolutions and Abolition, etc. And some like child labor laws, environmental laws, etc. are more accurately Progressive movements IMO. They may be popular positions but not necessarily populist. And your right, it's certainly left/right/middle with both trump and sanders filling the definition. It's interesting that if you look at the Populism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Populism) page on Wikipedia it's pretty much all over the map as to what is populism.

I don't disagree with your opinion about populist movements but I still maintain that populism in and of itself is bad while one can easily argue over what is a populist issue.

hjmick
05-03-2016, 03:08 PM
At least some knowledge of early 20th century European history would be helpful for understanding the premise of this thread.

If you go back to the early 1900's, Europe had two primary powers. Germany was allied with Austria-Hungary. Great Britain sided with Russia, Serbia and France. The resulting "Great War" left Germany defeated and destitute.
The German people were none too happy about this. They felt their leaders had ruined them with bad decisions. They wanted the old financially prosperous and militarily powerful Germany back.

Along comes this Austrian guy with the funny mustache. He promised to Make Germany Great Again.
Much like The Donald, Hitler was a powerful speaker who made a lot of promises. He promised revenge on all Germany's enemies. He promised an end to crippling reparation payments and a new prosperity. Want more money? Want jobs? Want more and better food? You've come to the right place!
Hitler felt that one of Germany's primary problems was that there were too many non-Aryans. Particularly Jews and Bolsheviks. His fiery rhetoric made everyone believe him.
Of course, Hitler had lots of opponents. He turned them into enemies. If they came to his rallies, he had them beaten up. You either supported Hitler or you kept your mouth shut.

Hitler's "Germany First" policy gained him a lot of believers. He wanted to unite all real Germans (the Aryan ones) into one homogeneous country that would bring back the greatness of the past. This struck a chord with a lot of people who were tired of being poor and oppressed and wanted someone to blame.

Of course, once the people put Hitler into power, he decided to go one step further and become a dictator. And because he had neutralized all his opponents, who was going to stop him?
Who would stop Trump? And where would he put the Muslim concentration camps?


Oh just fucking stop it. Seriously. Stop it. Thee is no way on this earth you believe Trump could go the way of Hitler. None.

Instead of spending your time sitting around thinking up ways to get a rise out of people, why not do something constructive? Go volunteer at a soup kitchen, the VA, something...

jimnyc
05-03-2016, 03:12 PM
Oh just fucking stop it. Seriously. Stop it. Thee is no way on this earth you believe Trump could go the way of Hitler. None.

Instead of spending your time sitting around thinking up ways to get a rise out of people, why not do something constructive? Go volunteer at a soup kitchen, the VA, something...

Can you imagine trying to get some soup from Gabby, I imagine it would be something like this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOpfsGrNvnk

Gunny
05-03-2016, 04:02 PM
Can you imagine trying to get some soup from Gabby, I imagine it would be something like this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOpfsGrNvnk

I think fj just quoted wiki. :laugh:

Elessar
05-03-2016, 06:49 PM
What a coinkydink, I've been told quite a few times that my style of running message boards is quite similar to that of Hitler. Donald Trump is from New York, where I'm at. That proves it then, we both definitely have Hitler blood running through us!! How could I have not seen this before? :slap:

Sarcasm noted...and appreciated!

gabosaurus
05-03-2016, 07:02 PM
Oh just fucking stop it. Seriously. Stop it. Thee is no way on this earth you believe Trump could go the way of Hitler. None.

Instead of spending your time sitting around thinking up ways to get a rise out of people, why not do something constructive? Go volunteer at a soup kitchen, the VA, something...

You people are considering rumors from the National Enquirer as truth, yet you think what I am saying is crazy? :rolleyes:

Go through it point by point. Trump is gaining power in much the same way Hitler did. By telling people what they want to hear and making promises that he has no chance on delivering.

Bilgerat
05-03-2016, 07:05 PM
Go through it point by point. Hillary is gaining power in much the same way Hitler did. By telling people what they want to hear and making promises that she has no chance on delivering.


And that's the truth:salute:

Elessar
05-03-2016, 07:06 PM
You people are considering rumors from the National Enquirer as truth, yet you think what I am saying is crazy? :rolleyes:

Go through it point by point. Trump is gaining power in much the same way Hitler did. By telling people what they want to hear and making promises that he has no chance on delivering.

I would not use that pathetic rag to wipe my butt or even
clean up Pippin's hairballs.

So why would I even buy it or pay attention to anything those
fantasy writers vomit out?

aboutime
05-03-2016, 07:27 PM
At least some knowledge of early 20th century European history would be helpful for understanding the premise of this thread.

If you go back to the early 1900's, Europe had two primary powers. Germany was allied with Austria-Hungary. Great Britain sided with Russia, Serbia and France. The resulting "Great War" left Germany defeated and destitute.
The German people were none too happy about this. They felt their leaders had ruined them with bad decisions. They wanted the old financially prosperous and militarily powerful Germany back.

Along comes this Austrian guy with the funny mustache. He promised to Make Germany Great Again.
Much like The Donald, Hitler was a powerful speaker who made a lot of promises. He promised revenge on all Germany's enemies. He promised an end to crippling reparation payments and a new prosperity. Want more money? Want jobs? Want more and better food? You've come to the right place!
Hitler felt that one of Germany's primary problems was that there were too many non-Aryans. Particularly Jews and Bolsheviks. His fiery rhetoric made everyone believe him.
Of course, Hitler had lots of opponents. He turned them into enemies. If they came to his rallies, he had them beaten up. You either supported Hitler or you kept your mouth shut.

Hitler's "Germany First" policy gained him a lot of believers. He wanted to unite all real Germans (the Aryan ones) into one homogeneous country that would bring back the greatness of the past. This struck a chord with a lot of people who were tired of being poor and oppressed and wanted someone to blame.

Of course, once the people put Hitler into power, he decided to go one step further and become a dictator. And because he had neutralized all his opponents, who was going to stop him?
Who would stop Trump? And where would he put the Muslim concentration camps?




Gabby. Despite your secret love for Trump. As a true, liberal, eager-follower of hatred, and stupidity imbred within your empty cranium. It is so easy to see how YOU would also be such a Fan of Hitler. Hoping your predictions of Trump being Hitler-like, would soothe your empty body, and mind.

namvet
05-03-2016, 07:29 PM
well Hitler just all but knocked Cruz out of the race. I had no idea Trump was German

aboutime
05-03-2016, 07:33 PM
well Hitler just all but knocked Cruz out of the race. I had no idea Trump was German


namvet. BUT....gabby wishes he was. It would please her to no end. Wonder if gabby stays in this country if Trump wins? Only after she gets a
http://icansayit.com/images/SWATFLAG.JPG Tattoo on BOTH arms, and Cheeks.

namvet
05-03-2016, 07:42 PM
namvet. BUT....gabby wishes he was. It would please her to no end. Wonder if gabby stays in this country if Trump wins? Only after she gets a
http://icansayit.com/images/SWATFLAG.JPG Tattoo on BOTH arms, and Cheeks.

ah what's a Gabby ?? :laugh:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/George_Gabby_Hayes.JPG/605px-George_Gabby_Hayes.JPG

hjmick
05-03-2016, 07:48 PM
You people are considering rumors from the National Enquirer as truth, yet you think what I am saying is crazy? :rolleyes:

Go through it point by point. Trump is gaining power in much the same way Hitler did. By telling people what they want to hear and making promises that he has no chance on delivering.


You people? What do you mean "you people?" What rumors are talking about? I didn't say you were crazy, I said there is no way that you believe Trump could go the way of Hitler and that you wrote that drivel in an effort to get a rise out of the numerous Trump supporters posting here. Of which I am not one, by the way. Nor do I support Cruz, Sanders or Clinton. I took what you wrote at face value and came to the conclusion that you are too smart to think Trump could go really go Holocaust in this day and age. And if he tried, there is not a hope in hell he could get away with it.


Politicians always make promises they can't deliver on. Obama made promises he couldn't deliver on, he too was unqualified for the office, he too had blind sycophants hanging on his every word and believing everything he said. Did you compare his rise to Hitler? Were you concerned with the way he was gaining power?

Didn't think so...


What rumors are you talking about?

namvet
05-03-2016, 07:51 PM
and Hitley is promising what??? isn't she related to Eva Braun???

BTY Cruz just announced he's out !!!

aboutime
05-03-2016, 07:53 PM
and Hitley is promising what??? isn't she related to Eva Braun???

BTY Cruz just announced he's out !!!



namvet. YOU DO REALISE....you just INSULTED EVA???:laugh::laugh:

namvet
05-03-2016, 07:56 PM
namvet. YOU DO REALISE....you just INSULTED EVA???:laugh::laugh:

no she took one look at Hitlery and killed herself. can't blame her either :coffee:

namvet
05-03-2016, 08:01 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_iMU0vO0uA

Gunny
05-04-2016, 03:15 AM
You people are considering rumors from the National Enquirer as truth, yet you think what I am saying is crazy? :rolleyes:

Go through it point by point. Trump is gaining power in much the same way Hitler did. By telling people what they want to hear and making promises that he has no chance on delivering.

Us People? You better pray every night if you know how to we don't get back on the same page because we outnumber YOU people 3 to 1.

namvet
05-04-2016, 08:42 AM
http://i66.tinypic.com/zthn4y.jpg

At least some knowledge of early 20th century European history would be helpful for understanding the premise of this thread.

If you go back to the early 1900's, Europe had two primary powers. Germany was allied with Austria-Hungary. Great Britain sided with Russia, Serbia and France. The resulting "Great War" left Germany defeated and destitute.
The German people were none too happy about this. They felt their leaders had ruined them with bad decisions. They wanted the old financially prosperous and militarily powerful Germany back.

Along comes this Austrian guy with the funny mustache. He promised to Make Germany Great Again.
like Obama, Hitler was a powerful speaker who made a lot of promises. He promised revenge on all Germany's enemies. He promised an end to crippling reparation payments and a new prosperity. Want more money? Want jobs? Want more and better food? You've come to the right place!
Hitler felt that one of Germany's primary problems was that there were too many non-Aryans. Particularly Jews and Bolsheviks. His fiery rhetoric made everyone believe him.
Of course, Hitler had lots of opponents. He turned them into enemies. If they came to his rallies, he had them beaten up. You either supported Hitler or you kept your mouth shut.

Hitler's "Germany First" policy gained him a lot of believers. He wanted to unite all real Germans (the Aryan ones) into one homogeneous country that would bring back the greatness of the past. This struck a chord with a lot of people who were tired of being poor and oppressed and wanted someone to blame.

Of course, once the people put Hitler into power, he decided to go one step further and become a dictator. And because he had neutralized all his opponents, who was going to stop him?
Who tried to stop Obama? And where would he put the White concentration camps?

Gunny
05-04-2016, 10:42 AM
http://i66.tinypic.com/zthn4y.jpg

At least some knowledge of early 20th century European history would be helpful for understanding the premise of this thread.

If you go back to the early 1900's, Europe had two primary powers. Germany was allied with Austria-Hungary. Great Britain sided with Russia, Serbia and France. The resulting "Great War" left Germany defeated and destitute.
The German people were none too happy about this. They felt their leaders had ruined them with bad decisions. They wanted the old financially prosperous and militarily powerful Germany back.

Along comes this Austrian guy with the funny mustache. He promised to Make Germany Great Again.
like Obama, Hitler was a powerful speaker who made a lot of promises. He promised revenge on all Germany's enemies. He promised an end to crippling reparation payments and a new prosperity. Want more money? Want jobs? Want more and better food? You've come to the right place!
Hitler felt that one of Germany's primary problems was that there were too many non-Aryans. Particularly Jews and Bolsheviks. His fiery rhetoric made everyone believe him.
Of course, Hitler had lots of opponents. He turned them into enemies. If they came to his rallies, he had them beaten up. You either supported Hitler or you kept your mouth shut.

Hitler's "Germany First" policy gained him a lot of believers. He wanted to unite all real Germans (the Aryan ones) into one homogeneous country that would bring back the greatness of the past. This struck a chord with a lot of people who were tired of being poor and oppressed and wanted someone to blame.

Of course, once the people put Hitler into power, he decided to go one step further and become a dictator. And because he had neutralized all his opponents, who was going to stop him?
Who tried to stop Obama? And where would he put the White concentration camps?

Wasn't a one-way street. We were as much responsible for Hitler as Germany was. I DO see your point in comparing him to Obama. The Treaty of Versailles was ridiculous and left Germany destitute. Hitler was just too greedy or no one would have lifted a finger to stop him. And invading Russia has to be one of the all-time blunders. He should have secured his lines and waited.

In that regard, Trump DOES mirror Hitler. He's made more enemies with his mouth than he can handle. He's alienated, conservatives, women, blacks, hispanics and Arabs. He won't be able to overcome that.

namvet
05-04-2016, 11:18 AM
Wasn't a one-way street. We were as much responsible for Hitler as Germany was. I DO see your point in comparing him to Obama. The Treaty of Versailles was ridiculous and left Germany destitute. Hitler was just too greedy or no one would have lifted a finger to stop him. And invading Russia has to be one of the all-time blunders. He should have secured his lines and waited.

In that regard, Trump DOES mirror Hitler. He's made more enemies with his mouth than he can handle. He's alienated, conservatives, women, blacks, hispanics and Arabs. He won't be able to overcome that.

if the world had stood up to Hitler he was prepared turn tail and run for home. he just didn't have the military strength at that time. I see the comparison here to Obama. NOT Trump

Elessar
05-04-2016, 12:01 PM
if the world had stood up to Hitler he was prepared turn tail and run for home. he just didn't have the military strength at that time. I see the comparison here to Obama. NOT Trump

I have to agree.

Obama wanted to put everyone into a collective much like Hitler.
He wanted to wipe out capitalism as well as small business.
He wanted the government to lead everyone's daily lives and needs;
example, The Affordable Care Act.
He wants to take personal firearms away from honest, law-abiding citizens.
He ignores black on white or black on black assaults and crimes.
His administration tried to declare ALL veterans potential domestic terrorists,
yet refuses to use that term in Muslims.

Quite a gem of a quasi dictator you support, Gabby!

fj1200
05-04-2016, 12:24 PM
So it's OK to compare Hitler to BO but not trump?

Elessar
05-04-2016, 12:29 PM
So it's OK to compare Hitler to BO but not trump?

Trump has not acted yet, but BO has.

The truth or accuracy is in the pudding BO created.

fj1200
05-04-2016, 12:32 PM
Trump has not acted yet, but BO has.

The truth or accuracy is in the pudding BO created.

All you've done is equate BO to every other socialist type but the reality is that BO is not Hitler and has done nothing to be compared to Hitler. Trump is not Hitler and has done nothing to be compared to Hitler. If you're going to compare BO to Hitler you can't really complain when trump's candidacy is compared to Hitler.

namvet
05-04-2016, 12:40 PM
So it's OK to compare Hitler to BO but not trump?

who's prez and who isn't. one has a track record. who can that be???

fj1200
05-04-2016, 12:42 PM
who's prez and who isn't. one has a track record. who can that be???

Methinks you're a little confused as to why Hitler is Hitler.

namvet
05-04-2016, 12:43 PM
All you've done is equate BO to every other socialist type but the reality is that BO is not Hitler and has done nothing to be compared to Hitler. Trump is not Hitler and has done nothing to be compared to Hitler. If you're going to compare BO to Hitler you can't really complain when trump's candidacy is compared to Hitler.

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namvet
05-04-2016, 12:44 PM
Methinks you're a little confused as to why Hitler is Hitler.

me thinks you don't know shit from shinola

fj1200
05-04-2016, 12:48 PM
me thinks you don't know shit from shinola

Of course I do. I see one of those here almost every day. :)

namvet
05-04-2016, 01:18 PM
Of course I do. I see one of those here almost every day. :)

and he never rides his bike

fj1200
05-04-2016, 01:19 PM
and he never rides his bike

Good talk. :)

DLT
05-04-2016, 01:28 PM
At least some knowledge of early 20th century European history would be helpful for understanding the premise of this thread.

If you go back to the early 1900's, Europe had two primary powers. Germany was allied with Austria-Hungary. Great Britain sided with Russia, Serbia and France. The resulting "Great War" left Germany defeated and destitute.
The German people were none too happy about this. They felt their leaders had ruined them with bad decisions. They wanted the old financially prosperous and militarily powerful Germany back.

Along comes this Austrian guy with the funny mustache. He promised to Make Germany Great Again.
Much like The Donald, Hitler was a powerful speaker who made a lot of promises. He promised revenge on all Germany's enemies. He promised an end to crippling reparation payments and a new prosperity. Want more money? Want jobs? Want more and better food? You've come to the right place!
Hitler felt that one of Germany's primary problems was that there were too many non-Aryans. Particularly Jews and Bolsheviks. His fiery rhetoric made everyone believe him.
Of course, Hitler had lots of opponents. He turned them into enemies. If they came to his rallies, he had them beaten up. You either supported Hitler or you kept your mouth shut.

Hitler's "Germany First" policy gained him a lot of believers. He wanted to unite all real Germans (the Aryan ones) into one homogeneous country that would bring back the greatness of the past. This struck a chord with a lot of people who were tired of being poor and oppressed and wanted someone to blame.

Of course, once the people put Hitler into power, he decided to go one step further and become a dictator. And because he had neutralized all his opponents, who was going to stop him?
Who would stop Trump? And where would he put the Muslim concentration camps?

Yeah.....but......Hitler didn't tweet. So, there's that.

Your comparison, ergo, falls flat.

Gunny
05-04-2016, 01:33 PM
I have to agree.

Obama wanted to put everyone into a collective much like Hitler.
He wanted to wipe out capitalism as well as small business.
He wanted the government to lead everyone's daily lives and needs;
example, The Affordable Care Act.
He wants to take personal firearms away from honest, law-abiding citizens.
He ignores black on white or black on black assaults and crimes.
His administration tried to declare ALL veterans potential domestic terrorists,
yet refuses to use that term in Muslims.

Quite a gem of a quasi dictator you support, Gabby!

Damn. He sounds like a Democrat.

Black Diamond
05-04-2016, 01:44 PM
Yeah.....but......Hitler didn't tweet. So, there's that.

Your comparison, ergo, falls flat.

Yeah other than that, he's Hitler. I can't wait to get my Geheimestattpolizei uniform. I regret not joining the military. Now that Trump will be President, i get seek out all antitrumpers/ enemies of the state. hail victory!!

Amerika!! Amerika!! Über alles in dem Welt.

logroller
05-04-2016, 03:01 PM
Yeah.....but......Hitler didn't tweet. So, there's that.

Your comparison, ergo, falls flat.
The comparison fell flat in post#1. Godwin's Law.

Black Diamond
05-04-2016, 03:14 PM
The comparison fell flat in post#1. Godwin's Law.

I don't believe in Godwin's law. But I agree it's flat as a pancake.

logroller
05-04-2016, 05:51 PM
I don't believe in Godwin's law. But I agree it's flat as a pancake.
I don't believe pancakes are flat. :coffee:

aboutime
05-04-2016, 07:14 PM
Us People? You better pray every night if you know how to we don't get back on the same page because we outnumber YOU people 3 to 1.


Gunny. Gabby can't help it. Her source of Liberal facts is PMSNBC, The National Enquirrer, and the HUFF & PUFF Post...Hot Flash, and PMS instruction manual for undesirable, broken thinking trends, as prepared by the DNC and Debby Wasserman Schultz Mentally Disabled Cuckoo Puffers.

Gunny
05-04-2016, 07:19 PM
Gunny. Gabby can't help it. Her source of Liberal facts is PMSNBC, The National Enquirrer, and the HUFF & PUFF Post...Hot Flash, and PMS instruction manual for undesirable, broken thinking trends, as prepared by the DNC and Debby Wasserman Schultz Mentally Disabled Cuckoo Puffers.

Don't say that name around me. That has got to be the dumbest bitch next to Pelosi on the planet. You couldn't get more stupid if your buddy beat you in the head with a baseball bat. My biggest fear about her is some lefties are going to put her in office somewhere.

Black Diamond
05-04-2016, 07:25 PM
Don't say that name around me. That has got to be the dumbest bitch next to Pelosi on the planet. You couldn't get more stupid if your buddy beat you in the head with a baseball bat. My biggest fear about her is some lefties are going to put her in office somewhere.
Traitor to her race...

aboutime
05-04-2016, 07:25 PM
Don't say that name around me. That has got to be the dumbest bitch next to Pelosi on the planet. You couldn't get more stupid if your buddy beat you in the head with a baseball bat. My biggest fear about her is some lefties are going to put her in office somewhere.



You're right to be concerned gunny. But I suspect...after the Dems lose in November. Wasserman Shitzz will probably be reassigned to selling one-way, refrigerator box tickets to CUBA right after election day. And she will be in charge of the Soccer Field at GITMO, where Hillary, and Obama get to pay their dues to the families of the BENGHAZI murders.:salute:

Elessar
05-04-2016, 08:27 PM
I have to remind people, speaking of history, the last two times we were
in a global world war, we were in an isolationist position led by Democratic
Presidents...Wilson and Roosevelt.

Even though we support the allies with material and supplies, it took the
deaths of American people to shake the frikkin' reality into both of them.

Wilson was a pansy.

Roosevelt finally grew some balls after 07 Dec 1941 and did more
than the lend-lease plans to the U.K. and Russia. But our military
at that point was threadbare. Only by the blood and sweat of our
people did it get strong quickly.

Do we want a repeat of this under Clinton or moonbat Johnson?

logroller
05-04-2016, 09:53 PM
I have to remind people, speaking of history, the last two times we werein a global world war, we were in an isolationist position led by Democratic
Presidents...Wilson and Roosevelt.

Which we won...hands down...unconditional surrender. USA USA USA !

I don't consider myself a isolationist libertarian or what have you. Many do, I simply don't care. I'm a big fan of policies that result in success. It's war on this, war on that, from poverty to terror-- no success, only failure. I think it's because it goes against the basic human condition of people just wanting to be left alone.
By way of comparison, look at the results of interventionist strategy, e.g. Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria....Fighting other people's wars hasn't shown itself to be beneficial to the US, on the whole.

Isolationism doesn't mean no outside relations, just mutual respect of sovereignty. For example, I think you touched on the fact of economic production being the key to success ie, wwII. Look at China. It was Nixon (a republican) who signed the Communique. Now in retrospect, perhaps that has ill served us in the long run. but coming off the coat tails of the interventionism in Korea and Vietnam, isolating the ussr economically through trade agreements was far more beneficial to the US than further military conquest(perhaps more so to China, but I digress) The inferior policy of Russian communism lost out to the libertarian free markets of capitalism. Across the board, in all things, if there's any other solution than government getting involved, the other solution is superior.

logroller
05-04-2016, 10:01 PM
At least some knowledge of early 20th century European history would be helpful for understanding the premise of this thread.
...where would he put the Muslim concentration camps?
At least some knowledge of present-day Europe would answer your question. :dance: